Hello Peter Booth, Thank you for your suggestions. I do appreciate it. Jabe On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:00 AM, <eng-worcester-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Worcester Finchers (Jabe Fincher) > 2. Re: Worcester Finchers (Peter Booth) > 3. Bromsgrove BMSGH September meeting (Mike YEGWART) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:29:42 -0500 > From: Jabe Fincher <jabe.fincher@gmail.com> > Subject: [WOR] Worcester Finchers > To: ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTik9cVQCQy+85ZdvxMSLD8-nJhwtYMCq0UWdcrg2@mail.gmail.com<AANLkTik9cVQCQy%2B85ZdvxMSLD8-nJhwtYMCq0UWdcrg2@mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello, > Just joined this list. I am seeking information on Finchers in Worcester. I > know this is vague and wide-open but all help appreciated. > > Jabe Fincher > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:11:58 +1000 > From: "Peter Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: Re: [WOR] Worcester Finchers > To: <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000501cb52d8$4820bdf0$0300a8c0@family> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Jabe, > > There's nearly 500 Finchers in various submitted family trees at > Rootsweb. > > You might also check surname mailing lists and other sites like > Genforum, Genes Reunited and Ancestry. > > Peter > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:35:41 +0100 > From: Mike YEGWART <mike.yegwart@btinternet.com> > Subject: [WOR] Bromsgrove BMSGH September meeting > To: Worcester <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4C8DC63D.3060108@btinternet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Tuesday 14th September at 7.45 p.m. > > ********************** > > This event will take place at > > Bromsgrove Methodist Centre, Stratford Road, Bromsgrove. > > *********************** > > "Research Evening with Society Resources and Indexes" > > - supplied by the Society and our own members. > > Come along and search a wide variety of resources many of which will be > computerised - with printers available to record the results. Other > information will be in written (book) form and fiche. Fiche readers will > be available for use. > > -- > Mike Yegwart > > Branch Chairman > Bromsgrove BMSGH > > The Family History Site for North Worcestershire > > http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ > > The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry > http://www.bmsgh.org/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-WORCESTER list administrator, send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-WORCESTER mailing list, send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 5, Issue 99 > ******************************************** >

Tuesday 14th September at 7.45 p.m. ********************** This event will take place at Bromsgrove Methodist Centre, Stratford Road, Bromsgrove. *********************** "Research Evening with Society Resources and Indexes" - supplied by the Society and our own members. Come along and search a wide variety of resources many of which will be computerised - with printers available to record the results. Other information will be in written (book) form and fiche. Fiche readers will be available for use. -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman Bromsgrove BMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry http://www.bmsgh.org/

Hello, Just joined this list. I am seeking information on Finchers in Worcester. I know this is vague and wide-open but all help appreciated. Jabe Fincher

Listers may find the following of interest..... http://www.youtube.com/user/findmypast Put a face to the name! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Meeting of the Worcester Branch of the BMSGH Family and social historians will be interested in a talk, to be given in Worcester. The talk, on the work of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission will be given by Geoff Longmore, Chairman of Wolverhampton Branch of the Western Front Association. Established by Royal Charter in 1917, the Commonwealth War Graves Commission pays tribute to the 1,700,000 men and women of the Commonwealth forces who died in the two world wars. The meeting, organised by the Worcester Branch of the Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry, will take place at the Baptist Church Hall in Sansome Walk, Worcester on Friday, September 10th, 2010 at 7.30pm. Members can attend for free and there is a £2 entrance fee for non-members, who are welcome to attend. Further details can be found at www.worcesterbmsgh.co.uk. Arthur Lewis

Thanks to those of you who replied to my Hodgetts question. Country wide it is not a common name, the trouble is that about 90% of people with the name came from Worcestershire and the area south and west of Birmingham. So the families are almost common in that area. For anyone else interested in the name I have added to the small amount I had on my website and most of what I have is now there. Note that some of it requires checking. www.wedmore.org.uk/stone/jones/hodgetts.htm Regards, Geoff Geoffrey T. Stone, FSG Braintree, Essex, UK One-Name Study of WEDMORE - worldwide. http://www.wedmore.org.uk

My family of HODGETTS were Worcestershire farmers. Gt Grandfather Joseph HODGETTS b 1827 at Long Lane Farm, Halesowen, later moved to Hasbury Farm, Halesowen. My Grandfather, Charles Hodgetts b 1865 and wife Catherine Emma Homes, started his own farming career at Lodge Farm, Frankley ( where my father Ernest Homes Hodgetts was born 1893) later moving briefly to Battlefields, Bromsgrove before settling for many years at Stoke Court Farm, Stoke Prior where he was a specialist in pedigree cattle and was a cattle dealer. He died in 1937 a well-respected and and succesful man, and is buried at Bromsgrove church. I have had contact in the past with Stephen Kelsey regarding the Homes family. There continue to be several descendants of this family still farming in Worcestershire today although my branch moved into other activities. regards Elizabeth Booth (nee Hodgetts).

In message <B7A5075614C64F2BBF462F6CE2EBC0BB@BRAT>, Paxie Kelsey <paxie@global.co.za> writes >Hello >I am looking for the family of Mary Ann DRINKWATER b Apr 1830 Hanley Castle. >Father was Joseph b 20 Oct 1793 m Sarah b abt 1795 in Worcester. I don't have information on this particular Drinkwater family but I have a fair amount on the Drinkwaters of Chaceley, a village slightly to the south of Hanley Castle. See my family tree pages on: http://www.connectedglobe.com/family/web/hawkerfam/ -- Graham Hawker | People remember the messenger family@greyhawk.demon.co.uk | But forget the message. http://www.connectedglobe.com/family/web/hawkerfam/

Geoff, There have been HODGETTS in and around the Kingswinford area since at least the 15th Century. In the 17th they married into the BAGUE/BRETTELL glassmaking families. These are my husband's ancestors. Nuala ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoffrey Stone" <lists@wedmore.org.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:20 PM Subject: [WOR] HODGETTS > > Is anybody researching or related to the HODGETTS name in or around > Dudley? > > 17th or 18th century at least two generations were watermen or boatmen. > > Regards, > > Geoff > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Geoffrey, I have HODGETTS, and so do many others, in and around Dudley and Sedgley. It is a popular name for that region. Would suggest that you ask for HODGETTS on the very popular Sedgley rootsweb List site run by Ian BEECH. regards Dennis FLAVELL. www.flavell.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoffrey Stone" <lists@wedmore.org.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:20 PM Subject: [WOR] HODGETTS > > > Is anybody researching or related to the HODGETTS name in or around > Dudley? > > 17th or 18th century at least two generations were watermen or boatmen. > > Regards, > > Geoff > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello I am looking for the family of Mary Ann DRINKWATER b Apr 1830 Hanley Castle. Father was Joseph b 20 Oct 1793 m Sarah b abt 1795 in Worcester. I have had wonderful help with Mary Ann's husband's family .... the KELSEY family from Broadwas (many thanks to Ruth .. ) ... just like what we all have here in SA on our lists. I have also had wonderful help on this family (she was married previously to Henry STOKES m 1853) from the Kelsey side to fill in the tree but wondered if anyone has concentrated on the DRINKWATER family specifically and could help me further. Many kind thanks in Ant. Paxie Mrs PAE Kelsey 23 Defiant Avenue, Airfield, Benoni, 1501, Gauteng South Africa Fax: +27 86 515 4577

Stephen, From the Hugh Wallis site, here's the periods covered by the online IGI batches for Hanbury. Hanbury C021222 1577-1715 E021221 P021221 1716-1875 M021221 1577-1754 So you'll see if he was truly christened there, the record should be online. However, it's a different story for marriages, where it doesn't look like you'll find his parents. If you look at the later christening batch, there are only three Bishop records. All seem to be to different parents. That suggest the surname isn't common to the area or they simply didn't have children christened. I presume you obtained his birth year and location from census records. I'd suggest you compare data from more than one census. I'd also see if he was in Hanbury in 1841 and who he resided with. Peter in Sydney

My HODGETTS ancestors don't go back to the 18th century, but I can go back to Samuel HODGETTS (born around 1851) and his wife Ellen BRAIN. They were married at Rowley Regis 22nd March 1880. Children include: - William HODGETTS born and died 1881 - Benjamin HODGETTS born 1886/87 - my ancestor, a boatman. - Kate HODGETTS born 1889 - Samuel HODGETTS born 1893 died 1894 David Element ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoffrey Stone" <lists@wedmore.org.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:20 PM Subject: [WOR] HODGETTS > > Is anybody researching or related to the HODGETTS name in or around > Dudley? > > 17th or 18th century at least two generations were watermen or boatmen. > > Regards, > > Geoff > > >

Is anybody researching or related to the HODGETTS name in or around Dudley? 17th or 18th century at least two generations were watermen or boatmen. Regards, Geoff

Hi Stephen, These indexes may help:- BMSGH [Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry] have produced Marriages indexes for a number of counties. As you are out in Denmark you would need to pay for a search of these - go to http://www.bmsgh.org/search/sea1.html for the Worcestershire, Warwickshire, Staffordshire and Birmingham indexes (initially £4, 4GBP). Malvern Family History Society have produced a Worcestershire County Baptism Index, now on-line as a pay service at http://www.fhs-online.co.uk/ . Enter George BISHOP in the multi-database search engine and you need page 12 of 40. There appears to be no 1825/6 baptisms. The Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) who created the IGI have 11 Family History Centres in Denmark. See http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp They probably made the originals of Hanbury, so for a fee will import a copy for you. That way you will be able to look at any potential siblings and other family links. (There were plenty of KING and KINGS in the vicinity so be sure you have the right one.) Regards Mike -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman Bromsgrove BMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry http://www.bmsgh.org/ On 01/09/2010 15:00, Stephen Pain wrote: > Dear All, > > Thank you so much for all you have done. I should have pointed out that I have looked at all relevant censuses and I have seen the IGI records for Hanbury. But although I would like to believe that his father was Thomas, mother Ann, I believe the year 1820 is too early as only once did he tell census registrars he was born in 1821 - all the others he told them he was born in 1825/6 . I think that 1) the records are not comprehensive 2) he lied about his age . 3) he was illegitimate. It is a pity because he is the UR-Bishop of the maternal line . I tried to work out possibilities from name connections. He had children with names like George, John, Harriet, Sarah Ann, Charles, Thomas, and since the firstborn was a Harriet I wondered if his mother or aunt was one - as his wife's family to my knowledge did not have any Harriets. Also according to his first marriage certificate the father was put down as James. I think this might be a mistake as the > first wife's father was James King. Where might I get more info re the births and marriages in Hanbury - but maybe they are not so relevant as his parents were prob seasonal labourers or hawkers travelling from place to place - indeed across counties like he did. > > > Stephen Pain, > > st3pen@yahoo.com > c/o Peter Madsen > > Sleppevangen 24 > 5270 Odense > Denmark > Tel: +0045-26559619

Hi: Despite what it says on Hugh Wallis's site, the IGI does not comprehensively cover Hanbury. I've found people in the original records that are not on the IGI. Probably the Hanbury batches were something other than the original PRs - BTs, perhaps. Paul On 1 September 2010 11:49, David Sheldon <d.w.sheldon@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Stephen > > On the fiches for Hanbury Parish ( 1716 -1837 ) there is only one George > BISHOP > mentioned. > > George BISHOP baptised July 23 1820 son of Thomas and Ann BISHOP , > labourer. > > Hope this helps > > Dave. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Stephen Pain <st3pen@yahoo.com> > To: eng-worcester@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010 8:50:43 > Subject: [WOR] Hanbury Parish Look up > > Can anyone please tell me if they have records for George Bishop born in > 1825/6 > Hanbury? > I could only find George Bishop 1820. Also if possible the parents > /marriages > related to George Bishops born in the period 1820-1828. > > Yours, > > Stephen > > > > > > > st3pen@yahoo.com > c/o Peter Madsen > > Sleppevangen 24 > 5270 Odense > Denmark > Tel: +0045-26559619 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All Just to clarify. The record I quoted re baptism for George BISHOP on 23 July 1820 was from the fiches of  the original Hanbury Parish Church records.  I have checked through them and there is no other George BISHOP baptised in Hanbury around that period , listed. Regards Dave ________________________________ From: Paul Prescott <paulgprescott@googlemail.com> To: Eng- Worcester LIST <ENG-worcester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010 13:12:08 Subject: Re: [WOR] Hanbury Parish Look up Hi: Despite what it says on Hugh Wallis's site, the IGI does not comprehensively cover Hanbury.  I've found people in the original records that are not on the IGI.  Probably the Hanbury batches were something other than the original PRs - BTs, perhaps. Paul On 1 September 2010 11:49, David Sheldon <d.w.sheldon@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Stephen > > On the fiches for Hanbury Parish ( 1716 -1837 )  there is only one George > BISHOP > mentioned. > > George BISHOP baptised  July 23 1820  son of Thomas and Ann BISHOP  , > labourer. > > Hope this helps > > Dave. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Stephen Pain <st3pen@yahoo.com> > To: eng-worcester@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010 8:50:43 > Subject: [WOR] Hanbury Parish Look up > > Can anyone please tell me if they have records for George Bishop born in > 1825/6 > Hanbury? > I could only find George Bishop 1820. Also if possible the parents > /marriages > related to George Bishops born in the period 1820-1828. > > Yours, > > Stephen > > > > > > > st3pen@yahoo.com > c/o Peter Madsen > > Sleppevangen 24 > 5270 Odense > Denmark > Tel: +0045-26559619 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Stephen On the fiches for Hanbury Parish ( 1716 -1837 )  there is only one George BISHOP mentioned. George BISHOP baptised  July 23 1820  son of Thomas and Ann BISHOP  ,  labourer. Hope this helps Dave. ________________________________ From: Stephen Pain <st3pen@yahoo.com> To: eng-worcester@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010 8:50:43 Subject: [WOR] Hanbury Parish Look up Can anyone please tell me if they have records for George Bishop born in 1825/6 Hanbury? I could only find George Bishop 1820. Also if possible the parents /marriages related to George Bishops born in the period 1820-1828.   Yours,   Stephen       st3pen@yahoo.com c/o Peter Madsen   Sleppevangen 24 5270 Odense Denmark Tel: +0045-26559619       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear All,   Thank you so much for all you have done. I should have pointed out that I have looked at all relevant censuses and I have seen the IGI records for Hanbury. But although I would like to believe that his father was Thomas, mother Ann, I believe the year 1820 is too early as only once did he tell census registrars he was born in 1821 - all the others he told them he was born in 1825/6 . I think that 1) the records are not comprehensive 2) he lied about his age . 3) he was illegitimate. It is a pity because he is the UR-Bishop of the maternal line . I tried to work out possibilities from name connections. He had children with names like George, John, Harriet, Sarah Ann, Charles, Thomas, and since the firstborn was a Harriet I wondered if his mother or aunt was one - as his wife's family to my knowledge did not have any Harriets. Also according to his first marriage certificate the father was put down as James. I think this might be a mistake as the first wife's father was James King.  Where might I get more info re the births and marriages in Hanbury - but maybe they are not so relevant as his parents were prob seasonal labourers or hawkers travelling from place to place - indeed across counties like he did.   Stephen Pain,   st3pen@yahoo.com c/o Peter Madsen   Sleppevangen 24 5270 Odense Denmark Tel: +0045-26559619

Can anyone please tell me if they have records for George Bishop born in 1825/6 Hanbury? I could only find George Bishop 1820. Also if possible the parents /marriages related to George Bishops born in the period 1820-1828.   Yours,   Stephen       st3pen@yahoo.com c/o Peter Madsen   Sleppevangen 24 5270 Odense Denmark Tel: +0045-26559619