Hi everyone Well for some reason, my links did not work in my previous email! So this is just a top up email to give the actual website addresses. Worcestershire Look Up Exchange http://freespace.virgin.net/isabel.easter/Lookup/WorcsLookUp.html Look Up Exchange Index http://aztecrose.tripod.com/LookupExchange.htm Thanks Isabel Easter Worcestershire Look Up Exchange Coordinator

Hi there My name is Isabel Easter and I have just taken over the upkeep of the Worcestershire Look Up Exchange web page. For those of you who aren't familiar with the Look Up Exchange, it can be a valuable resource for those researching their family tree. It lists people who are willing to look up information for others on sources which they have. So now I am looking for help from any volunteers who have sources which they would be willing to check for others. At the moment, the page only contains details of some online sources and databases which are available. It would be great to include more sources which would be of use to others researching their family tree. I have given links below to the Worcestershire page and also to the Look Up Exchange index page. If you think you have a resource which may be suitable to be included on the Worcestershire Look Up Exchange page, then please do contact me. Suitable resources would include indexed parish records, census indexes, electoral rolls, etc. I will need to know exact details of which resources you hold and your email address. Also, if you know of a suitable online resource which I haven't included, then please do contact me with details. Here are the links: Worcestershire Look Up Exchange Look Up Exchange Index If you would like any further information, please do contact me. Thanks Isabel Worcestershire Look Up Exchange Co-ordinator

Many thanks Roger, will look for him! Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Jones To: John Richardson Cc: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] Curnock Maybe of interest .... William Curnock was station master at Bransford Railway Station (Littlebury's Worcester Directory 1905) Roger J On 24 September 2010 16:48, John Richardson <jjminfiek@ntlworld.com> wrote: Hello the list. I am interested in the name CURNOCK in and around Worcester. I have come across a MIRIAM E RICHARDSON married to WALLACE L CURNOCK. This took place in 1914. I wonder if there is someone out there researching this family? Kind regards John Richardson Eaton Socon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maybe of interest .... William Curnock was station master at Bransford Railway Station (Littlebury's Worcester Directory 1905) Roger J On 24 September 2010 16:48, John Richardson <jjminfiek@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hello the list. > > I am interested in the name CURNOCK in and around Worcester. > > I have come across a MIRIAM E RICHARDSON married to WALLACE L CURNOCK. This > took place in 1914. I wonder if there is someone out there researching this > family? > > Kind regards > > John Richardson > Eaton Socon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello the list. I am interested in the name CURNOCK in and around Worcester. I have come across a MIRIAM E RICHARDSON married to WALLACE L CURNOCK. This took place in 1914. I wonder if there is someone out there researching this family? Kind regards John Richardson Eaton Socon

Hi Folks Our committee has been organising the updating of the website of the Bromsgrove branch of BMSGH http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ this summer. Apart from a new look, now available from 'off the shelf' modules, we have added some new and free data resources, not available before on the Internet in any form. In addition, we have our own forum board, just for Worcestershire. Besides the usual historical questions, our aim is to use this for general communication within the branch. This will do away with half a dozen, usually out of date, email contact lists that are around. Some of the copyrighted Resources are: 1811 Census for Bromsgrove (NEW!) 1821 Census For Bromsgrove (NEW!) 1841 Worcestershire Institutions Wills - Bromsgrove wills of the 17th century (NEW!) Map of the Parishes of Worcester City - 1839 Member's Surname Interests - Browsable and Searchable Some recent back Issues of the Bromsgrove Briefing are available as .pdf documents The website is open all, but for some areas you will need to register with a 'silly' user-name, and BMSGH Members can go deeper still. Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman. And we will able to inform you of events we are helping at. Bromsgrove BMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/

Chris, Marie is correct. It's getting close to the end of the convict transportation period. The trouble is that each Australian state has their own records. However, unlike the number of counties in UK, Australia only has six states. But you'll need to check them all. You should find links to many sites under the convict tag at www.coraweb.com.au I would also advise checking the online BDM links from the same site for his possible marriage or death. In fact it may be quicker just to look at each state for a death of James Amess after 1853. Peter in Sydney.

This was close to the time when Australia stopped taking convicts. Suggest you check newspapers for reports and also court records. If he did come to Australia it was most likely to Western Australia but cannot be sure. Marie Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris El-Amir" <umethaar@hotmail.com> To: <eng-worcester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 3:13 PM Subject: [WOR] AMESS Hi I have found reference to a James Amess at Worcester Assizes in 1853. His crime was robbery with violence and he was given 10 years transportation. Would this have likely been to Australia? How do I follow it up? Many thanks for any help. Chris (Doha) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have found reference to a James Amess at Worcester Assizes in 1853. His crime was robbery with violence and he was given 10 years transportation. Would this have likely been to Australia? How do I follow it up? Many thanks for any help. Chris (Doha)

Sue, My guess would be that Jane died in childbirth and Henry left the child with his grandparents. Have you tried looking for Henry in 1841 and 1851 etc.? Of course, Henry may have died as well. You don't mention any other family living with or near Nathaniel and Letitia in 1841. I can see from their 1797 marriage that the would be in late 60's. Free BMD also has their deaths in 1847 and 1845 resp. It's a little odd that unlike four other children of Nathaniel, Henry is missing from the christening batches. But he is after 1812. Perhaps somebody local may know of available burial records? Peter in Sydney.

I passed this on to another list so thought I would send it here, its one of those things I keep handy as somebody is always asking when such and such a census was taken. Hope somebody finds it useful. **** Ann **** British Census Dates These are as of midnight, Sunday/Monday nights and apply to England, Wales. For Scotland, add one day for 1841 - 1881 inclusive. June 6, 1841 March 30, 1851 April 7, 1861 April 2, 1871 April 3, 1881 April 5, 1891 March 31, 1901 April 2, 1911 Until 1929 the legal age for marriage was 12 for a girl and 14 for a boy with the parents consent of by license

Gus - well, you've certainly given me plenty to (re)think about! Yes, you are right - I have taken a guess at Henry's year of birth and I also did believe that the 1841 census was correct on this occasion with regard to the relationship between Nathaniel/Letitia and William - mainly because of their ages. I really hadn't identified the fact that William just might have spent the night with Nathaniel/Letitia rather than be living with them permanently. I will be visiting the History Centre in town and will recheck the parish registers, marriage index and wills, etc. On the National Archives website I have just found an extract from the records of the Kidderminster Union for 9th December 1848 which shows that William had been in the House approx. one month which would mean that he had to have been living with someone else as Letitia died in October 1845 and her husband, Nathaniel in April, 1847 (in the workhouse). I will also contact County Hall to see if any further records exist which might help. Once again, many thanks. Sue

Hello Sue, You say in your 2nd posting that you've not found Henry or Jane in any census, and that their burials are also untraced, so (without a baptism either) how can you believe that Henry was born c.1815 - or even the child of Nathaniel and Letitia? The IGI only lists 5 children born to them who were baptised at 'Kidderminster' [which at that stage would have been St Mary's] between 1808 and 1813: 1798 - Susannah 1800 - Rosanna [died 1801] 1803 - William 1808 - Eliza 1813 - Phoebe All are 'extracted' entries - and the extractions would seem to be full up to 1875. Granted that there are 2 long gaps there (each side of Eliza) where other children could've been born/baptised elsewhere - and Henry could well have been one of them. I may be barking up a wrong tree here, but it has the *appearance* of a 'formula guess' that he'd become a father at age 21... Nathaniel, at any rate was a Kidderminster Native - he was baptised there on 24 Apr 1774, apparently the oldest child of a William & Jane, who went on to baptise 6 more there between 1776 and 1791, although none were Henrys. [All extracted items] Nathaniel's marriage to Letitia is as obscure as those of his parents and his supposed son :-( The IGI has a patron submission of Kidderminster, 26 Dec 1797 to a Letitia TAYLOR - but it's not among the extracted marriages for Kidderminster. "Letitia TAYLOR" has no fewer than 4 Submitted baptisms [all Kidderminster; 20 Jan 1774; daughter of Henry & Jane(!)] - but again this doesn't show up in the extractions. Another problem is that the only linkage between William Henry and Nathaniel & Letitia is in the 1841 Census - which is notorious for not showing relationships :-( William could, indeed be their grandchild - but as easily a great-nephew or maybe even a nephew. Plus the fact of his being recorded there does *NOT* mean that he was a "usual resident" - all it actually *records* is that he spent that one night there. There are several sources available at Worcester The potential marriage of Henry and Jane [UNKNOWN]. On your visit to Worcester will you be going to the Record Office at County Hall or the History Centre in the middle of the town? Only the latter holds the Worcestershire Marriages Index 1660-1837, which is believed to be "complete" for the period from 1754 for all marriages in any Parish that has ever been a part of WOR. It might also be worthwhile looking there for the marriages of William & Jane and Nathaniel & Letitia. Additionally it holds the National Burials Index - hopefully to include the recent 3rd instalment by the time you get there - as well as Indexes of Wills proved at Worcester up to 1928, and copies of the documents on film. I accept that [on the evidence of the baptism and the 1841] the chances are low that a butcher or a bombazine weaver would leave a Will - but if Nathaniel was acting as a Guardian to an orphan he just might have felt the need to. All this isn't intended to sound - or be - negative... Merely trying to widen thearea which you seem to've mined already! Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <wyemist@gmail.com> To: <eng-worcester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:18 AM Subject: [WOR] Henry & Jane Payton > Henry was the son of Nathaniel and Letitia Payton and was born circa 1815 > in > Kidderminster. > > On 28 November 1836 there is an entry in St. George's church PR's for the > christening of William Henry Payton, son of Henry and Jane Payton of > Chapel > Street, Kidderminster - Henry was recorded as a butcher. > > The 1841 census shows that William Henry Payton [age 4] is living with his > grandparents, Nathanel and Letitia Payton in Chapel Street. By 1851 both > Nathaniel and Letitia had died and young William was in the workhouse. > When > William married he left blank details of his father so I'm assuming that > he > didn't know his name. > > Although I have searched the PR's for St. George's, St. Mary's and St. > John's in Kidderminster I have not been able to find the marriage for > Henry > and Jane or, more importantly, their burials. I've also checked the IGI > and > the GRO. When I visit Worcester again next month I'm going to recheck the > PR's in case I've missed an entry. > > I'm trying to find out what happened to Henry and Jane - any suggestions > would be welcome. > > Sue > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tks Ann Always needed and can never find it Eleanore D -----Original Message----- From: eng-worcester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-worcester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:42 AM To: Worcester List Subject: [WOR] British Census dates I passed this on to another list so thought I would send it here, its one of those things I keep handy as somebody is always asking when such and such a census was taken. Hope somebody finds it useful. **** Ann **** British Census Dates These are as of midnight, Sunday/Monday nights and apply to England, Wales. For Scotland, add one day for 1841 - 1881 inclusive. June 6, 1841 March 30, 1851 April 7, 1861 April 2, 1871 April 3, 1881 April 5, 1891 March 31, 1901 April 2, 1911 Until 1929 the legal age for marriage was 12 for a girl and 14 for a boy with the parents consent of by license ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter, Although I have searched under various spellings of Payton I have not been able to find either Henry or Jane on any census. I believe that the Payton's originated in the area and Henry certainly had siblings so I thought it was odd that no-one took William in but maybe they just simply couldn't afford to do so. In the early 1870's William and his wife took in and raised my grandfather after he was orphaned as a toddler so I'm particularly interested in his early years. Sue ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Peter Booth <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> Date: 21 September 2010 10:35 Subject: Re: [WOR] Henry & Jane Payton To: Sue <wyemist@gmail.com>, eng-worcester@rootsweb.com Sue, My guess would be that Jane died in childbirth and Henry left the child with his grandparents. Have you tried looking for Henry in 1841 and 1851 etc.? Of course, Henry may have died as well. You don't mention any other family living with or near Nathaniel and Letitia in 1841. I can see from their 1797 marriage that the would be in late 60's. Free BMD also has their deaths in 1847 and 1845 resp. It's a little odd that unlike four other children of Nathaniel, Henry is missing from the christening batches. But he is after 1812. Perhaps somebody local may know of available burial records? Peter in Sydney.

Henry was the son of Nathaniel and Letitia Payton and was born circa 1815 in Kidderminster. On 28 November 1836 there is an entry in St. George's church PR's for the christening of William Henry Payton, son of Henry and Jane Payton of Chapel Street, Kidderminster - Henry was recorded as a butcher. The 1841 census shows that William Henry Payton [age 4] is living with his grandparents, Nathanel and Letitia Payton in Chapel Street. By 1851 both Nathaniel and Letitia had died and young William was in the workhouse. When William married he left blank details of his father so I'm assuming that he didn't know his name. Although I have searched the PR's for St. George's, St. Mary's and St. John's in Kidderminster I have not been able to find the marriage for Henry and Jane or, more importantly, their burials. I've also checked the IGI and the GRO. When I visit Worcester again next month I'm going to recheck the PR's in case I've missed an entry. I'm trying to find out what happened to Henry and Jane - any suggestions would be welcome. Sue

Hi Sandra Have you tried http://beta.familysearch.org/ Mike in Droitwich sandra.bev@talktalk.net wrote: > > Hi - can anyone offer a lookup please. > I'm trying to find a baptism for Thomas [Gould] Bevington > from census returns and marriage register he seems to have been born in > St Martins Worcester 1809. I've looked at the IGI but nothing there seems > obvious. > Any help most gratefully received... > Sandra > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Ken, many thanks for this - sorry to say this is not the chap. This one married Miriam Jackson and lived in Worcester. The one I'm looking for married Sarah Field in Gloucestershire - they continued to live there but on the census he gives his origins as Worcester. Regards Sandra -----Original Message----- From: ken <ken@sdays.free-online.co.uk> To: sandra.bev@talktalk.net Sent: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:34 Subject: Bevington WORCESTER Hi Sandra Thomas, C @ St Peters WORCS 18 AUG 1813 It appears the family moved around the city two were C at St Martin parents Joseph andCatherine St Peters info from http://pilot.familysearch St Martins info from Hugh Wallis batch site All IGI data HTH Ken ex Worc

Hi - can anyone offer a lookup please. I'm trying to find a baptism for Thomas [Gould] Bevington from census returns and marriage register he seems to have been born in St Martins Worcester 1809. I've looked at the IGI but nothing there seems obvious. Any help most gratefully received... Sandra

Jabe, There's nearly 500 Finchers in various submitted family trees at Rootsweb. You might also check surname mailing lists and other sites like Genforum, Genes Reunited and Ancestry. Peter