Sent for the fourth time :o(Hi Listers Sorry to be hogging the cyberspace, if, indeed, I am, but I've come across a little mystery which I'm sure someone will be able to throw some light on. My 4GGF, George SALE, married Mary PETHWARD 27 Nov 1793 in Cleeve Prior. I can find no other mention whatever of the name PETHWARD, but a spot of surfing reveals that PETHARD is, if not common, then certainly not unusual in WOR. Is there, by chance, anyone with this name in their tree, please? Could there possibly be someone actually researching the name? Kind and hopeful regards Joy   

Hello the site and the list. I have recently the results of help given to a question on 'Rootschat'. The question was refering to Lower Mitton Parish/Non Conformist records. Some very kind person with the username 'Jim1212' provided a comprehensive reply. I wondered if he was on this site? or indeed if anyone had access to such records which I believe are held somewhere in Worcester itself! John Eaton Socon Cambridgeshire

Hello. I live in Spain and I am helping a friend in Perth, Australia with his family history. I have followed the May family into Australia but to confirm them further back I need a copy or transcription of a marriage. Philip May married Agnes Thomas at St Mary's Church Kidderminster 30th June 1799. This might help me link them to a couple with the same names in Devon (or not). Can anyone help me with this please? Noelene M Cummins

Hi, Many thanks to; Roy Stockdill, Wolfie, Gus Tysoe and Velda Hampton for your help in locating Bloody Hole in Bewdley. I now know where the place is in relation to Wyre Hill. The family I am researching is the family of John White. He was a wood cutter living with his family at Bloody Hole in the 1871 census. In 1881 they were living in Wyre Hill. Many thanks again for your help. Kind regards Lesley

On 28 Oct 2010 at 18:35, Wolfie wrote: > > I know exactly where this farm is and the person who lives > there > Thank you but I was not the original enquirer. I was simply trying to help her locate it. Hopefully she will see your message. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

I know exactly where this farm is and the person who lives there From: eng-worcester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-worcester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roy Stockdill Sent: 28 October 2010 17:22 To: eng-worcester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WOR] Bloody Hole, Bewdley I wrote in a previous message..... > Try this in the 1881 census..... > > Enter no surnames but a census reference search, using RG11 piece > 2905, folio 64, page 30. Look at the families from BLACKWARD to > WANKLING and you will see they are all listed at Bloody Hole, Bewdley. > The previous entry is for Tanners Hill and the following one for > Coppice Gate. The CD version of the 1881 shows the census district was > Ribblesford. > > Surely this should enable you to pinpoint it? > I fancy I have now located what was formerly called Bloody Hole on the modern OS map with multimap.com. It appears to lie just to the east of Bewdley, close to an area called The Lakes and Hales Park Close by are Tanners Hill, Coppice Gate, Bowcastle Farm and Uncllys. All of these are names that appear in the 1881 census as being immediately adjacent to Bloody Hole. There is today, midway between Coppice Gate and Hales Park, a place called HOLE FARM. Surely that must be it ! Go to Bewdley with multimap and choose the Ordnance Survey map. Then zoom in to Hales Park and you will find the places to which I refer, including Hole Farm, just an inch or two to the east. It's just to the north of the junction of the A456 and the B4190. Coppice Gate and Hole Farm lie immediately next to one another off a country lane. marked on the OS map in yellow, from Hales Park. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3223 - Release Date: 10/27/10

I wrote in a previous message..... > Try this in the 1881 census..... > > Enter no surnames but a census reference search, using RG11 piece > 2905, folio 64, page 30. Look at the families from BLACKWARD to > WANKLING and you will see they are all listed at Bloody Hole, Bewdley. > The previous entry is for Tanners Hill and the following one for > Coppice Gate. The CD version of the 1881 shows the census district was > Ribblesford. > > Surely this should enable you to pinpoint it? > I fancy I have now located what was formerly called Bloody Hole on the modern OS map with multimap.com. It appears to lie just to the east of Bewdley, close to an area called The Lakes and Hales Park Close by are Tanners Hill, Coppice Gate, Bowcastle Farm and Uncllys. All of these are names that appear in the 1881 census as being immediately adjacent to Bloody Hole. There is today, midway between Coppice Gate and Hales Park, a place called HOLE FARM. Surely that must be it ! Go to Bewdley with multimap and choose the Ordnance Survey map. Then zoom in to Hales Park and you will find the places to which I refer, including Hole Farm, just an inch or two to the east. It's just to the north of the junction of the A456 and the B4190. Coppice Gate and Hole Farm lie immediately next to one another off a country lane. marked on the OS map in yellow, from Hales Park. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hello again Lesley, Found It - with assistance from Roy Stock dill.... Named on the current OS 1:25,000 - as "Hole Farm" - at Grid Ref SO 771 752. Gus

On 28 Oct 2010 at 16:01, Roy Stockdill wrote: > > > Can anyone tell me where in Bewdley Bloody Hole is please? > > > > Try entering "Bloody Hole+Bewdley" into Google and you will come up > with several hits. > > A couple direct you to the ENG-WORCESTER archives for 2002 when this > query cropped up previously. > > Another directs you to the 1881 census for Kidderminster registration > district, where Bloody Hole is actually listed as an address and yet > another entry directs you to the website of a pub called the Black > Boy, Bewdley, which refers to the Battle of Worcester in the Civil > Wars when Charles II was defeated by Cromwell's forces, the battle > ending just outside Bewdley in a valley known to this day as Bloody > Hole. > Try this in the 1881 census..... Enter no surnames but a census reference search, using RG11 piece 2905, folio 64, page 30. Look at the families from BLACKWARD to WANKLING and you will see they are all listed at Bloody Hole, Bewdley. The previous entry is for Tanners Hill and the following one for Coppice Gate. The CD version of the 1881 shows the census district was Ribblesford. Surely this should enable you to pinpoint it? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

> > Can anyone tell me where in Bewdley Bloody Hole is please? > > Try entering "Bloody Hole+Bewdley" into Google and you will come up with several hits. A couple direct you to the ENG-WORCESTER archives for 2002 when this query cropped up previously. Another directs you to the 1881 census for Kidderminster registration district, where Bloody Hole is actually listed as an address and yet another entry directs you to the website of a pub called the Black Boy, Bewdley, which refers to the Battle of Worcester in the Civil Wars when Charles II was defeated by Cromwell's forces, the battle ending just outside Bewdley in a valley known to this day as Bloody Hole. One of the entries in the ENG-WORCESTER archives offers the following instructions..... To view the location of Bloody Hole, Bewdley. I would suggest that you go to the web site http://www.old-maps.co.uk Type in the word Bewdley on the left hand side and click search. Double click on Bewdley Worcestershire Click the Left Brown arrow head. Do this three times in all Click on the enlarge number 2 Click the Down Brown arrow head once Bloody Hole can then be seen just above Bowcastle Farm Don't know whether this still works, since it was written some years ago! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hello Lesley, The Quick Answer is that if it was a Street Name it isn't now.... You'd basically need a highly-detailed - and Old - Map to find it named, and about the earliest of those only dates from the 1880s. [It isn't on Taylor's 1772 Map of Worcestershire...] Can you tell us where you got the name from? And the date of the record? [And if from a Census, then the full reference would also be a great help, too] Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Styles" <lesley63styles@hotmail.co.uk> To: <eng-worcester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:54 PM Subject: [WOR] Bloody Hole, Bewdley > > Hi, > > Can anyone tell me where in Bewdley Bloody Hole is please? > > I know Wyre Hill quite well so directions from there would be good. > > Thanks. > > Kind regards > Lesley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Can anyone tell me where in Bewdley Bloody Hole is please? I know Wyre Hill quite well so directions from there would be good. Thanks. Kind regards Lesley

Just came across this nd thought I'd pass it on..... http://www.1641.tcd.ie/index.php regards Sandra

Dear List, Looking for burial place.... I have just received a copy of a death notice for the Late.. Alexander YOUNG died 22 Woolverhamton St ,Dudley.Sept 28th 1922. His second wife Clara (Wilton ) Young died 1947 on the I.O.W her burial not listed on the Island possibility Clara may be buried with Alexander. Alexander was a Tailor and had a shop Alex.Young and Son at the above address . Witness to Alexander's death was a son named Alexander Elliott Young of 23 North St, Dudley. The son was known by the name of Elliott. Any help greatly appreciated. Kindest Ragards Noelene Selmes Beenleigh Queensland Australia

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Stephen, Are you just looking for fellow researchers of this family or is there something specific? A quick look at his christening on IGI shows parents as John and Mary. By doing a parent search or simply clicking on the batch number, he looks to be the youngest of nine children born at Holt between 1768 - 1794, (although it could be two or more couples) Have a look at Bishop families in Holt in 1841 census or in 1851 for Bishop surname born in Holt. You might also check submitted trees at places like Rootsweb or Ancestry, and also surname message boards. Peter

Hi Listers, I hope I'm not out of order here, if I am please forgive me. There seem to be a quite few people who have a John KITELEY and Susannah WIAT with a daughter Elizabeth married to a Samuel HOLLOWAY. This is incorrect, there were two Elizabeths in the parish of Upper Arley at the time of the marriage in 1723. Because the parish is now in Worcestershire I thought it might be useful to let all know that I have set up a Kiteley blog on the matter. All pertinent information is there including my transcripts of wills. If anyone has any links to this family please go to: "The Kiteley Blog" Type as exactly as shown including quotation marks. I would love to hear from anyone who is descended from Samuel and Elizabeth Kiteley. Pauline from sunny Florida

Just checked a couple of censuses and he appears on the 1861 & '71 as a lodger with his sister and her husband John and Mary Perkins. Unmarried, he's an agricultural labourer and the residence is Burf Cottages, Astley, a few miles upstream on the Severn from Holt. There's a James Bishop death in 1877. Littlebury's Directory 1905 records another James Bishop in Sinton (Sinton Green),Grimley as a tailor. Roger On 18 October 2010 14:47, Peter Booth <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Stephen, > > Are you just looking for fellow researchers of this family or is there > something specific? > > A quick look at his christening on IGI shows parents as John and Mary. > By doing a parent search or simply clicking on the batch number, he looks > to > be the youngest of nine children born at Holt between 1768 - 1794, > (although > it could be two or more couples) > > Have a look at Bishop families in Holt in 1841 census or in 1851 for > Bishop surname born in Holt. > > You might also check submitted trees at places like Rootsweb or > Ancestry, and also surname message boards. > > Peter > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WORCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear listers,   Can anyone help me with more information regarding James Bishop born 1794 Holt and his family? I would like also to hear from anyone with Bishop connections in Holt & Grimley.   Yours   Stephen Stephen Pain, M.Phil   st3pen@yahoo.com c/o Peter Madsen   Sleppevangen 24 5270 Odense Denmark Tel: +0045-26559619

Hi I can disprove this statement as this Maria Rouse(married Dixon) comes from Bury St Edmunds as per 1911 census Mike in Droitwich Mike in Droitwich wrote: > Hi > > I think she marries as Martha Sophia Rouse in q3 1892 in Lambeth to > Thomas Henry Dixon >