> Would somebody please tell me where exactly St Peter's Anglican > Church, Droitwich is situated. I want to visit the cemetery in May when > we come over for a visit, and my gr gr grandparents were buried there in > 1871 and 1884. See http://www.wdcra.org.uk/droitw.htm There is a link to Multimap here. David.

Forgot to mention that his birthplace is given as Stourbridge in the "1901". He would have been born c1853. In a message dated 20/03/2005 10:52:29 GMT Standard Time, MAshwell writes: Hi Jacquie, Many thanks for checking. I think he's a different John Jones. I have now found John on the 1901 (ancestry) living in Newchapel, Staffs. It took some time as the Jones' are not in the index, and I had to check page-by-page. Thanks, Mark

Hi Jacquie, Many thanks for checking. I think he's a different John Jones. I have now found John on the 1901 (ancestry) living in Newchapel, Staffs. It took some time as the Jones' are not in the index, and I had to check page-by-page. Thanks, Mark

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It's always a painful experience to be Found Wrong - but sometimes this can be assuaged if the Results are more pleasant than having been Right :-) I've visited the site - thank you Polly and David - and wish the Western Front Association all the success it'll probably need. But I hope it can get a better price for the move/storage than the £62,000 and "six-figure sum" that I understand have so far been quoted... Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: Polly Rubery <polly@rowberry.org> To: John Tysoe <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk>; <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] WWI Medals > Hi Gus (and all!) > > >>We can, I fear, kiss this little lot goodbye...<< > > Maybe not - see: > > >>Have just seen this posted to the British Genealogy Forum > "Can I draw your attention to: > > http://battlefields1418.50megs.com/...index_cards.htm > > It looks like the Western Front Association will be saving the records." > > If you go to the link you need to go to the bottom of the page to read the > news!<< > > Kind regards > Polly Rubery > Acting List admin: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-L@rootsweb.com > List admin: MIDMARCH-L@rootsweb.com > A genealogy and local history list covering the Counties of Brecon, > Hereford, Monmouth, Shropshire, Stafford and Worcester. > ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com > ROWBERRY-L@rootsweb.com > ROWBERRY/RUBERY ONS - GOONS #278 > rowberry@one-name.org > http://www.rowberry.org > Webmaster for the Herefordshire Family History Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukhfhs/index.html > >

I don't recognise "Great Datford" in WOR... For what it's worth, a patch on the Stourbridge flight of Locks is referred to as "Dadford's Sheds" - but despite the Stourbridge Connection it seems wildly improbable. And there's Dodford some 3 miles NW of Bromsgrove that was within Bromsgrove Parish. Even Daylesford - a detached WOR Parish on the GLS/OXF Border - but that was about as far away from Stourbridge as it was possible to be while still standing on WOR soil... Some dates and places where the Censuses were taken would've perhaps made it a bit easier to solve. Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: <MAshwell@aol.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: [WOR] Great Datford? > Hello List, > > Has anyone ever heard of "Great Datford" in Worcestershire. > > It is listed as a birthplace on a census piece, yet on a later census the > same person is listed as being born in Stourbridge, Worcestershire. > > Regards, > > Mark > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Polly Rubery" <polly@rowberry.org> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] WWI Medals > "Can I draw your attention to: > > http://battlefields1418.50megs.com/...index_cards.htm > I think it should be: http://battlefields1418.50megs.com/medal_index_cards.htm David.

Thanks for your help Gus/ Steve, The person is John Jones, aged 36 living in Biddulph (Staffs) in the 1891 census (RG12/2848 - p28/ sch148) It looks like "Great Datford" to me - when you compare the individual letters to others on the page. No county is given which would make you think it was in Staffordshire. But I can't find it there either. Then on the 1881 census John Jones birthplace is Stourbridge, Worcestershire (John is in Wolverhampton in 1881, and It is definately the same John Jones. I can't find him (yet!) in 1901. Regards, Mark

Hi Gus (and all!) >>We can, I fear, kiss this little lot goodbye...<< Maybe not - see: >>Have just seen this posted to the British Genealogy Forum "Can I draw your attention to: http://battlefields1418.50megs.com/...index_cards.htm It looks like the Western Front Association will be saving the records." If you go to the link you need to go to the bottom of the page to read the news!<< Kind regards Polly Rubery Acting List admin: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-L@rootsweb.com List admin: MIDMARCH-L@rootsweb.com A genealogy and local history list covering the Counties of Brecon, Hereford, Monmouth, Shropshire, Stafford and Worcester. ENG-HEREFORD@rootsweb.com ROWBERRY-L@rootsweb.com ROWBERRY/RUBERY ONS - GOONS #278 rowberry@one-name.org http://www.rowberry.org Webmaster for the Herefordshire Family History Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukhfhs/index.html

Hello, I have found a REA family baptisms at Worcester for the 1860s. Alfred REA was the father and Elizabeth the mother. The only marriage I can find that fits is at Birmingham and I have this certificate. They are a puzzle. Alfred is the son of James on the certificate and Elizabeth is the daughter of John MORRIS. Is anyone else looking for this family. I know they moved to Manchester by 1881 but Alfred is elusive. I have a baptism for an Alfred in 1821 right period. I need to find him on a census. I don't know if the 1841 for Worcester is indexed but if anyone has come across him please let me know. Joan in Devon

While the 143 filing cabinets could be stored (with all the cards accessible) in a space of 55ft x 20ft - and be transported there on 2 medium-sized lorries - do not expect that the Fre*** Projects would ever be permitted to have them. With the cards destroyed, there'll only be one place to access the data -TNA, who charge £3.50 to download each one... *They* wouldn't let a Commercial Opportunity such as this to be destroyed by a "bunch of idiot do-gooders". It's MONEY that's behind the whole shabby affair, despite the Conspiracy Theorists' suggestion that it was because the filming and digitising had been done incompetently and TNA didn't want to be found out. We can, I fear, kiss this little lot goodbye... Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Newbury <David@davejo.eclipse.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] Re: ENG-WORCESTER-D Digest V05 #73 > But where would we.....the Free*** projects store 143 filing cabinets? > > Dave

Hello List, Has anyone ever heard of "Great Datford" in Worcestershire. It is listed as a birthplace on a census piece, yet on a later census the same person is listed as being born in Stourbridge, Worcestershire. Regards, Mark

Would anyone have access to a Trades Directory which would give Anvil Making firms in the 1850s? (Staffs/ Warwick/ Worcs) I have just discovered that my Mother's family name was actually PEARSON not JOHNSON as she had been named and that my Great Grandfather was a Henry PEARSON blacksmith and anvil maker. Have had no luck in finding his birth death or marriage but his wife was Eleanor CLIFFORD THOMPSON (widow) born 1825 in Chilvers Coton and had a child Emma Clifford PEARSON in 1854 and my Granfather William Harvey Clifford PEARSON/JOHNSON in 1859. My William JOHNSON (1859) was a Police Constable in Birmingham and I have his records so I am mystified that it did not state his birth name. Does anyone know how name changes worked in the 1880s? Any advice gratefully received! Lin Watterson Isle of Wight UK

On 18 Mar, Dave Newbury <David@davejo.eclipse.co.uk> wrote: > But where would we.....the Free*** projects store 143 filing cabinets? > Dave Off the top of me head, like - there is a "Charity Quarter" in Kensington, london where space might be available: some of the funding could be used to buy/lease premises: plenty of industrial estates available: use your imagination! I don't have chance to compose a full reply, but my business is helping charities find funding for projects - if I could be of any assistance don't be afraid to ask! Cheers > http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/index.php?referrerid=14 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <famhist@dsl.pipex.com> > To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: [WOR] Re: ENG-WORCESTER-D Digest V05 #73 > > On 17 Mar, lee lawrence <lee@lawrence2600.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > > > surely the most sensible thing would be for them to give them to the war > > > museum. > > > joyce > > > > I think one of the genie websites should apply to the Heritage Lottery > Fund > > for money to take on this vast collection - I mean FreeBMD or someone like > > that. > > > > -- > > Chris Ramsbottom > > researching: > > > > BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY > > CAMPTON, GREGORY > > > > all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > > For Worcestershire information see > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WOR/ > > UK Census on-line > > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005 > > > > -- Chris Ramsbottom researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY CAMPTON, GREGORY all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day

But where would we.....the Free*** projects store 143 filing cabinets? Dave http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/index.php?referrerid=14 ----- Original Message ----- From: <famhist@dsl.pipex.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] Re: ENG-WORCESTER-D Digest V05 #73 > On 17 Mar, lee lawrence <lee@lawrence2600.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > > surely the most sensible thing would be for them to give them to the war > > museum. > > joyce > > I think one of the genie websites should apply to the Heritage Lottery Fund > for money to take on this vast collection - I mean FreeBMD or someone like > that. > > -- > Chris Ramsbottom > researching: > > BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY > CAMPTON, GREGORY > > all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > For Worcestershire information see > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WOR/ > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005

Hello Ann, This is taken from 1851 transcribed Worcs census. Martley Witley Abberley Freemans COLLINGS Thomas H M 66 Farmer Enville STS 48 acres employing 1 man Mary W M 34 (as transcribed) Abberley WOR Edward S W 36 Farm servant Enville STS Martha D U 19 Rock WOR Alfred S U 15 Rock WOR Dinna D 8 Rock WOR Rose D 7 Rock WOR Clara D 4 Rock WOR Philip S 1m Abberley WOR Chris --- Ann Jones <annken@walmer84.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Hello Listers, I wonder if it's possible for anyone > to give me any information on the family of Alfred > COLLINS christened Nov. 8th 1836 at Rock, Worcs. I > believe his parents names were Thomas and Mary, and > he had a sister Mabel christened March 5th 1832. > I would really appreciate any help you can give me. > > Ann > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi John just to a to Gus, if you got to http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ and put in Witton and select Witton,Worcestershire you and find it now and on http://www.old-maps.co.uk/gazetteer/10worcs391/10worcs391gazA.htm select Droitwich then pan down you will find it then. Mike in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] Question about Droitwich. > In 1852 Droitwich Borough was an administrator's and map-drawer's > nightmare - which didn't get finally straightened out until 1933. > > Although it nominally consisted of 3 (Civil) Parishes: > St Nicholas in the North West > St Andrew in the South West > St Peter in the South East > [the North East contained part of Dodderhill, and the Disputed Lands of > 'In Liberties' and 'Marlborough in the Vines' which were extra-parochial.] > things weren't as clear-cut as they'd appear. > > St Nicholas had no church, and was ecclesiastically part of St Andrew. > St Andrew (civil and ecclesiastical) included the old parish of St Mary > de Witton, whose church had long ago fallen into disuse. > St Peter claimed that St Andrew had stolen part of its land. St Andrew > demurred, and as a compromise the lucky inhabitants paid Local Taxes to > both > parishes. > {And a little later on, when the boundaries were adjusted in 1894, there > was a small portion in the South West whose Official Name was "Unnamed". > *That* state of affairs lasted until 1933. The area which Dared Not Speak > Its Name is now called Chawson.} > > > Witton, though, is Alive and Well, around ¼ mile to the South of the Town > Centre. It contains a Post Office, a few shops, a pub, an hotel, 2 chapels > and the Catholic Church, but to the casual eye would seem to be just > another > part of the town. > > Its nearest CofE church is St Peter. > > Gus

In 1852 Droitwich Borough was an administrator's and map-drawer's nightmare - which didn't get finally straightened out until 1933. Although it nominally consisted of 3 (Civil) Parishes: St Nicholas in the North West St Andrew in the South West St Peter in the South East [the North East contained part of Dodderhill, and the Disputed Lands of 'In Liberties' and 'Marlborough in the Vines' which were extra-parochial.] things weren't as clear-cut as they'd appear. St Nicholas had no church, and was ecclesiastically part of St Andrew. St Andrew (civil and ecclesiastical) included the old parish of St Mary de Witton, whose church had long ago fallen into disuse. St Peter claimed that St Andrew had stolen part of its land. St Andrew demurred, and as a compromise the lucky inhabitants paid Local Taxes to both parishes. {And a little later on, when the boundaries were adjusted in 1894, there was a small portion in the South West whose Official Name was "Unnamed". *That* state of affairs lasted until 1933. The area which Dared Not Speak Its Name is now called Chawson.} Witton, though, is Alive and Well, around ¼ mile to the South of the Town Centre. It contains a Post Office, a few shops, a pub, an hotel, 2 chapels and the Catholic Church, but to the casual eye would seem to be just another part of the town. Its nearest CofE church is St Peter. Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: J.Ford <john@jf2000.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:22 PM Subject: [WOR] Question about Droitwich. > Hello everyone. > I am new to this list, but could anyone answer this > question ? My G/grandfather Thomas Stone was born in Droitwich in 1852, I > have just recieved his birth certificate and he was born in " Witton Saint > Andrew", could anyone tell me if this was part of Droitwich or a Village > somewhere near, and if the place still exists? > > It would be nice to find out and possibly visit. > > Best Regards, John. > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005 > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > >

On 17 Mar, lee lawrence <lee@lawrence2600.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > surely the most sensible thing would be for them to give them to the war > museum. > joyce I think one of the genie websites should apply to the Heritage Lottery Fund for money to take on this vast collection - I mean FreeBMD or someone like that. -- Chris Ramsbottom researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY CAMPTON, GREGORY all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day