Hi there, Thanks for the suggestion. Where can I find the WOR Marriages Index? I don't live in the UK, I live in New York, USA Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> To: "Suzanne Boughton" <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > Hi Suzanne, > > I take it you've found and seem his baptism in one of the Droitwich > Churches. You know his mother's name - it might be worthwhile for me to see > if she married there (or perhaps in Kidderminster) and is in the WOR > Marriages Index. > > I'd not anticipate that there'd be *that* many Sarah BOUGHTONs listed... > > But it won't prove John's father's name - but if the marriage was *very* > close to his baptism, then that could be a Clue. > > Gus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Suzanne Boughton <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > To: John Tysoe <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk>; <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:45 PM > Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > Hi Gus, > > > > Yeah, I am not that lucky usually so I guess I should just enjoy it. > > > > John was married twice, in 1841 in Worcestershire and in 1864 in > Yorkshire. > > I have both of his marriage certificates. > > > > I guess I have just about as much as I can easily find on him since there > > isn't much pre 1837. I don't know how to find much on his mother who I > > guess would have been born 1780-1800 probably in Droitwich or nearby. > > > > I have lots on his children and if I ever get to the UK I would love to go > > to the area they lived. Maybe someday. > > > > Thanks, > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> > > To: "Suzanne Boughton" <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:38 AM > > Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > > > > Hi Suzanne, > > > > > > So *that* explains the presence of birth date and absence of baptism > date > > ! > > > You were > > > indeed *amazingly* lucky to get that sort of information from an English > > > Newspaper of that - or any other - date :-) > > > > > > The 1841 Census has survived, but is neither on-line nor indexed. Not > only > > > that, but it gives very little useful genealogical detail or 'proofs', > > > because: > > > 1) it doesn't give Relationships within the Household > > > 2) it doesn't give birthplaces beyond "in this County Y/N?" > > > 3) Ages of adults are rounded-down to the next multiple of 5 > > > 4) Addresses are even more vestigial than the 1851 > > > > > > OTOH, if he married before 1 July 1837 - and in Worcestershire - then > his > > > marriage should be able to be found in the WOR Marriages Index - which I > > > could look at if that would help. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Suzanne Boughton <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > > > To: John Tysoe <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:51 PM > > > Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gus, > > > > > > > > The christening records didn't give his date of birth. Through sheer > > luck > > > I > > > > found out that there was an article in the local newspaper when he > died. > > > It > > > > seems he died in Halifax in 1907 and he was the oldest resident in the > > > area > > > > at the time. I contacted the local library and since I knew the date > of > > > the > > > > article a wonderful librarian looked it up and sent me a copy. As luck > > > would > > > > have it, it mentioned his date of birth. > > > > > > > > That kind of luck will probably never happen again. > > > > > > > > I had a feeling that there would be no birth records pre 1837 but I > > > thought > > > > maybe someone knew something that I didn't. > > > > > > > > Is there any records for the 1841 census that you know of? > > > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> > > > > To: "Suzanne Boughton" <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:44 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Suzanne, > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, but you have no chance whatever of obtaining a birth > > > > certificate > > > > > earlier than 1 July 1837. All there was up to that date were Church > > > > > records - and it'd appear you've seen his baptismal entry. I'm > > > surprised, > > > > > though, that it gave the date of his birth. > > > > > > > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Suzanne Boughton <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > > > > > To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:35 PM > > > > > Subject: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this list and wonder if anyone knows anything about > the > > > name > > > > > Boughton > > > > > > > > > > > > My great great grandfather, John Boughton, was born 23 December > 1814 > > > in > > > > > Droitwich. He was the illegitimate son of Sarah Boughton. I have no > > idea > > > > who > > > > > his father was and that is all the information I have on his mother. > I > > > > found > > > > > out about him being illegitmate from his christening record found > from > > > my > > > > > local family history center. > > > > > > > > > > > > John went to work in the carpet weaving field when he was only > eleve > > n > > > > year > > > > > old in Kidderminster where he met and married his first wife, Louisa > > > Hunt, > > > > > in Kidderminster. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have found him in the 1851 census. From that point on the family > > > moved > > > > > to Halifax in Yorkshire. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have much information from that point on but I have little info > > from > > > > the > > > > > early years. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there any way to find a birth certificate or to find out > anything > > > > about > > > > > his mother, grandparents etc.? > > > > > > > > > > > > And is there anyone out there who might be looking for the name > > > > Boughton? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Suzanne Boughton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > > > > > > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > > > > > UK Census on-line > > > > > > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Gus, Yeah, I am not that lucky usually so I guess I should just enjoy it. John was married twice, in 1841 in Worcestershire and in 1864 in Yorkshire. I have both of his marriage certificates. I guess I have just about as much as I can easily find on him since there isn't much pre 1837. I don't know how to find much on his mother who I guess would have been born 1780-1800 probably in Droitwich or nearby. I have lots on his children and if I ever get to the UK I would love to go to the area they lived. Maybe someday. Thanks, Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> To: "Suzanne Boughton" <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > Hi Suzanne, > > So *that* explains the presence of birth date and absence of baptism date ! > You were > indeed *amazingly* lucky to get that sort of information from an English > Newspaper of that - or any other - date :-) > > The 1841 Census has survived, but is neither on-line nor indexed. Not only > that, but it gives very little useful genealogical detail or 'proofs', > because: > 1) it doesn't give Relationships within the Household > 2) it doesn't give birthplaces beyond "in this County Y/N?" > 3) Ages of adults are rounded-down to the next multiple of 5 > 4) Addresses are even more vestigial than the 1851 > > OTOH, if he married before 1 July 1837 - and in Worcestershire - then his > marriage should be able to be found in the WOR Marriages Index - which I > could look at if that would help. > > Best wishes, > > Gus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Suzanne Boughton <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > To: John Tysoe <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:51 PM > Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > Hi Gus, > > > > The christening records didn't give his date of birth. Through sheer luck > I > > found out that there was an article in the local newspaper when he died. > It > > seems he died in Halifax in 1907 and he was the oldest resident in the > area > > at the time. I contacted the local library and since I knew the date of > the > > article a wonderful librarian looked it up and sent me a copy. As luck > would > > have it, it mentioned his date of birth. > > > > That kind of luck will probably never happen again. > > > > I had a feeling that there would be no birth records pre 1837 but I > thought > > maybe someone knew something that I didn't. > > > > Is there any records for the 1841 census that you know of? > > > > Thanks again, > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> > > To: "Suzanne Boughton" <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > > > > Hello Suzanne, > > > > > > I'm sorry, but you have no chance whatever of obtaining a birth > > certificate > > > earlier than 1 July 1837. All there was up to that date were Church > > > records - and it'd appear you've seen his baptismal entry. I'm > surprised, > > > though, that it gave the date of his birth. > > > > > > Gus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Suzanne Boughton <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > > > To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:35 PM > > > Subject: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this list and wonder if anyone knows anything about the > name > > > Boughton > > > > > > > > My great great grandfather, John Boughton, was born 23 December 1814 > in > > > Droitwich. He was the illegitimate son of Sarah Boughton. I have no idea > > who > > > his father was and that is all the information I have on his mother. I > > found > > > out about him being illegitmate from his christening record found from > my > > > local family history center. > > > > > > > > John went to work in the carpet weaving field when he was only eleve n > > year > > > old in Kidderminster where he met and married his first wife, Louisa > Hunt, > > > in Kidderminster. > > > > > > > > I have found him in the 1851 census. From that point on the family > moved > > > to Halifax in Yorkshire. > > > > > > > > I have much information from that point on but I have little info from > > the > > > early years. > > > > > > > > Is there any way to find a birth certificate or to find out anything > > about > > > his mother, grandparents etc.? > > > > > > > > And is there anyone out there who might be looking for the name > > Boughton? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Suzanne Boughton > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > > > > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > > > > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > > > UK Census on-line > > > > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > > > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> To: "Suzanne Boughton" <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] Surname Boughton > Hello Suzanne, > > I'm sorry, but you have no chance whatever of obtaining a birth certificate > earlier than 1 July 1837. All there was up to that date were Church > records - and it'd appear you've seen his baptismal entry. I'm surprised, > though, that it gave the date of his birth. > > Gus > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Suzanne Boughton <psgtype@ix.netcom.com> > To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:35 PM > Subject: [WOR] Surname Boughton > > > > I am new to this list and wonder if anyone knows anything about the name > Boughton > > > > My great great grandfather, John Boughton, was born 23 December 1814 in > Droitwich. He was the illegitimate son of Sarah Boughton. I have no idea who > his father was and that is all the information I have on his mother. I found > out about him being illegitmate from his christening record found from my > local family history center. > > > > John went to work in the carpet weaving field when he was only eleven year > old in Kidderminster where he met and married his first wife, Louisa Hunt, > in Kidderminster. > > > > I have found him in the 1851 census. From that point on the family moved > to Halifax in Yorkshire. > > > > I have much information from that point on but I have little info from the > early years. > > > > Is there any way to find a birth certificate or to find out anything about > his mother, grandparents etc.? > > > > And is there anyone out there who might be looking for the name Boughton? > > > > Thanks, > > Suzanne Boughton > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > > > > >

> Hiya everyone a new member here! > I am trying to find a John Dabbs born approz 1844 in "Dudley > Worcestershire", unfortunately thats the only info I have. He moved over > to shropshire and married. > I would appreciated any help at all on this. I have the shropshire 1851 > census if anyone wants a lookup in return, > Michelle Jones (telford shropshire) 1871 census image sent by e-mail Noreen

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I am new to this list and wonder if anyone knows anything about the name Boughton My great great grandfather, John Boughton, was born 23 December 1814 in Droitwich. He was the illegitimate son of Sarah Boughton. I have no idea who his father was and that is all the information I have on his mother. I found out about him being illegitmate from his christening record found from my local family history center. John went to work in the carpet weaving field when he was only eleven year old in Kidderminster where he met and married his first wife, Louisa Hunt, in Kidderminster. I have found him in the 1851 census. From that point on the family moved to Halifax in Yorkshire. I have much information from that point on but I have little info from the early years. Is there any way to find a birth certificate or to find out anything about his mother, grandparents etc.? And is there anyone out there who might be looking for the name Boughton? Thanks, Suzanne Boughton

Hello Michelle, there are two John Dabbs born in Dudley, both 1851 not 1844. Piece 2032 45 71 Parents are Michael Dabbs Iron Stone Miner aged 38 born Wellington Salop, wife Hannah. Piece 2033 155 106 Parents are Robert Dabbs Coal Miner aged 26 born Wellington Salop, wife Sarah. Could either of these be Johns parents, do you know what the family did for a living? Please get back to me if you need anymore info. Best Wishes from Linda.

Hiya everyone a new member here! I am trying to find a John Dabbs born approz 1844 in "Dudley Worcestershire", unfortunately thats the only info I have. He moved over to shropshire and married. I would appreciated any help at all on this. I have the shropshire 1851 census if anyone wants a lookup in return, Michelle Jones (telford shropshire)

Hi David, It now appears that Joseph HUGHES was from Stroud, GLS. This gentleman is in Bromsgrove under the name of HOOPER. An enumerator's error. We believe we have one photo of him, and 32 would be too young for this picture. Thank's anyway. Mike Yegwart

Hi List Found this useful website which I thought I would share. It lists common trades and occupations in alphabetical order, along with a short description. Quite helpful when trying to decipher occupations on the census! http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/trades.html Regards Liz

Mike Yegwart > > But who was Joseph HUGHES? He’s missing from the 1901 census. If anyone > has ANY information on him please contact me. > There is an Albert HUGHES in the 1901 census, age 32, in Oldbury, WOrcs., born Staffs Dudley Port, a Photographer and House Agent. Could this be him? David.

Hi, I am new to the list and would like to enquire about my ancestors from the Worcester area. I am looking for Richard KENDRICK who was born between 1806/1809 in Birtsmorton, Worcester. He was married to Elizabeth SMITH born 1813 in Dymock, Gloucester. I am looking for Richard's parents. I am pretty certain that his father is Thomas KENDRICK but not sure about his mother. Richard and Elizabeth were married 13 Dec 1833 Ledbury, Hereford. They had 11 children. Elizabeth SMITH's parents are Joseph SMITH and Martha. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Gwen Gray USA

2,000 Plus images of Bromsgrove of 100 years ago. Yes over 2,000 glass plate negatives, by the photographer Joseph Hughes, have been found and digitised. Taken between about 1896 and 1909 the majority are in excellent condition. They are of individuals and groups, in the studio and outdoors. A group known as Nailtown are organising their first public display on Saturday the 9th April 2005. The venue is The Methodist Centre, Stratford Road, Bromsgrove, Worcestershire; commencing at 11 am and running until 5 pm. In collaboration with the Bromsgrove branch of the Birmingham & Midland Society for Genealogy & Heraldry and the Bromsgrove Society the aim is to match names to pictures. A few hundred already have names, but more are needed. If you can provide information they will let you have a photograph for free. Social and family historians will have full access to the collection anyway. Unfortunately commercial enterprises will have to be charged. The extravaganza will consist of three full size studios: two as mock ups and one with a continuous slide show of the photographs. Models will be wearing period costume and they will be musical accompaniment. You will even be able to have to have your own “period photograph” taken. BMSGH will be there with their bookshop and a display of local family trees offering help and advice. No doubt many will be looking for family contacts. But who was Joseph HUGHES? He’s missing from the 1901 census. If anyone has ANY information on him please contact me. The Hughes collection is supported by a Local Heritage Initiative Grant. Mike Yegwart Bromsgrove Branch Chairman B.M.S.G.H. http://bmsgh.org bromshistory@btinternet.com

My apologies if I did not make my request clear. Wyffyydd was in Flintshire and where Thomas was living in 1851. From the census return he was born in Worcestershire (nothing more I am afraid) and I am hoping someone who is researching BARKLEY might have information about this family in Worcestershire in the 18th C. Regards, Roger Holland I have transcribed for FreeCen. http://www.freecen.org.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Jones [mailto:randhjones@hetnet.nl] > Sent: 24 March 2005 18:42 > To: 'ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com' > Subject: Thomas BARKLEY (or variants) > > Is anyone researching BARKLEY/BERKLEY/BARCLAY etc. in Worcestershire? > > I have a Thomas BARKLEY/BARCLAY last known living in Wyffyydd, occupation > gamekeeper. > > The 1851 census has him as aged 62 (making birth about 1788), born in > Worcestershire. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > Roger Jones > Holland

Is anyone researching BARKLEY/BERKLEY/BARCLAY etc. in Worcestershire? I have a Thomas BARKLEY/BARCLAY last known living in Wyffyydd, occupation gamekeeper. The 1851 census has him as aged 62 (making birth about 1788), born in Worcestershire. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Roger Jones Holland

Just wondering if a house called The Uplands in Hagley Road, Stourbridge is still there. If it is would love SKS to send me a photo. It was the family home of Walter Jones from Jones & Attwood Ltd engineering company Thanks Linda Christchurch NZ

Hello, I am searching for connections with CHARLES RICHARDSON aged 39 on the 1901 census. Or his son CHARLES JOHN/JOHN CHARLES RICHARDSON aged 13 on the 1901 census. many thanks John Richardson Eaton Socon

I now have a couple of addresses for the REA's Hannah Elizabeth REA was born at The Britannia Inn Dolby in 1862. Could someone please check the 1861 census for me. Caroline REA was born Charles St, Blockhouse in 1865. If anyone has the 1871 census and could check that address for me I would be grateful. My research is in Lancashire mostly so I have the census for Lancashire. Regards. Joan In Devon

My apologies to Worcester listers who were kind enough to look for Joseph and Isabella PERKS and daughter Amanda who might have been visiting family in the Stourbridge area at the time of the 1851 census. A Liverpool lister in California found them in the 1851 Liverpool index -- recorded as PEEKS! -- and provided the reference. So much for PERKS/PERKES/PERKINS/PARKS etc tried hitherto; I must add PEEKS and maybe PECKS in future. (Any more suggestions?) They're still 'missing' in 1861. Ancestry.com produced Joseph PERKS born/chr. 3 April 1825, Old Swinford, Worcs. Father: Thomas PERKS born 1799, Old Swinford; died 31 March 1872, Old Swinford Mother: Sebra BINNS married 25 August 1822, ... Staffs/Worcs but I still don't know for sure if this was my Joseph Perks. Was it a very common name in the area? Old Swinford is not far from Lye, which was Joseph's place of birth as given in the 1871 census. (1851 says Stourbridge). How reliably did people know their dates of birth? Joseph's marriage certificate (31 December 1848) clearly says age 24, which means he must have been born some time in 1824. The census of 2 April 1871 has him down as 45, which might be strictly accurate if he was in fact the Joseph Perks born on 3 April 1825 -- he would have been 46 the next day! He died in New Zealand on 5 March 1900; the death certificate says age 75 (place of birth 'Thropshire England' !!); I'm told the cemetery record says aged 76... The death certificate bears no name of informant.

Hello Listers I have been trying to find my grandfather Francis Richard Herrin CLARK'S parents. I know his father was John CLARKE married to Matilda CLARKE (Née HERRIN) on grandfathers birth cert. 13th August 1879 they were living in Orchard Lane, Lye, Worcestershire. His fathers occupation was Corn dealer. I have found grandfather on the 1901 census living with his brother Thomas Joseph CLARKE and family and another brother Percy at Upper High St., Lye, Worcs.. Has anyone an idea where I can find his father John and family? I am also looking for Matilda HERRIN but without her birth place I cannot continue my search. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Mike suemike@globalnet.co.uk