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    1. monument inscriptions or tombstones?
    2. cathy miller
    3. Please forgive my lack of knowledge but, in England are the grave markers know as monument inscriptions or tombstones? Also, are there many of either in church yards dating back into the 1600 - middle 1800's? If not, where did they go? Thanks Cathy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.

    05/22/2005 01:18:07
    1. RE: [WOR] hervert d'egville surname
    2. Helen Verrall
    3. Allen Do you have the 1851 & 41 Census for the Family/ies ?? Can send if you would like them . Have located the families of James and William in 1851 - so far !! From British Vital Records Index - appears William's son William has moved to Herefordshire HERVET D'EGVILLE, Marguerite Louise Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 18 Dec 1887 Recorded in: Colwall, Herefordshire, England Father: William Henry HERVET D'EGVILLE Mother: Ella Source: FHL Film 994231 Dates: 1860 - 1896 HERVET-D'EGVILLE, Vera Madeleine Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 19 Jan 1890 Recorded in: Colwall, Herefordshire, England Father: William Henry HERVET-D'EGVILLE Mother: Ella Source: FHL Film 994231 Dates: 1860 - 1896 HERVET D'EGVILLE, Geoffrey Pierre Digby William Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 23 Apr 1896 Recorded in: Colwall, Herefordshire, England Father: William Henry HERVET D'EGVILLE Mother: Ella Source: FHL Film 994231 Dates: 1860 - 1896 Bentley's 1840 Directory of Worcestershire , Published on CD by www.archivecdbooks.com lists the family as follows - D'Egville James Harvey Professor-Book Seller 72 High Street Louis Harvey Professor Dancing - College Yard Billings `1855 Directory ( also available on Cd from Archive CD Books Lists D'egville James Dancing Master, The Tything William " " Villiers House, 2 Bath Road! Happy Hunting Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: allen hindmarsh [mailto:john.hindmarsh1@ntlworld.com] Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2005 9:13 p.m. To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WOR] hervert d'egville surname Hi Folks, I am a new subscriber to this list and have discovered the surname D'Egville in my tree. So far I have ascertained Lewis (or Louis) Hervert D'Egville married Mary Day 1804 at St Michael's Bedwardine Worcestershire. Of the 9 known children, I have come forward via 1861 on 3 of them: James born abt 1813 married one Charlotte Augusta ? before Nov 1837, nil after 1861, William married Harriet Day 5 Jan 1847 and Louis married Louise ? around 1855. As you can imagine, tracing these folks is difficult as the name is usually misspelt (to say the least). If anyone can help or point me in the right direction it would break down the brick walls I have encountered so far. They were Professors of both music and dance as well as stage actors in many plays etc. Many Thanks (John James) Allen Hindmarsh -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 20/05/2005 ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== FreeREG Project: parish register database http://freereg.rootsweb.com UK Census on-line http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/

    05/21/2005 04:59:13
    1. Site Update - Parishmouse
    2. S LLOYD
    3. Hello All Just a quick note to say Parishmouse has been updated today (21 May) adding pictures of White Ladies Aston. Just the church, internal and external for now - graves will be added later on a rolling basis as there are over 120 and it will take me a while to add the descriptions :( The address is www.parishmouse.co.uk All the best Sally

    05/21/2005 10:51:59
    1. Re: [WOR] WILKES - Lickey End/Catshill/Staple Hill/Bromsgrove
    2. Wythall Index
    3. Hi All the Archives department on the 7th flr of Birmingham Central Library hold the records of the Diocese and the items indexed are prefixed DRO(diocesan record office) Mike Fisher Wythall,WOR One-Place Genealogical Study http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wythallindex/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] WILKES - Lickey End/Catshill/Staple Hill/Bromsgrove > Hello Colin, > > The Lickey was transferred to Birmingham Diocese in 1905, so it seems not > altogether unreasonable for Bham Central Library to hold its registers. > > Records Offices are (broadly) set up to deal with matters pertaining to > the > Civil Administration Units within the boundaries of their Civil > Authorities - but The Lickey's Registers are Ecclesiastical. > > There's bound to be Border Conflicts in any case - the Simple Answer would > really be for both to hold copies - but that's a Practical Solution, and > bureaucracies don't hold with such things :-) > > Gus > >

    05/21/2005 05:16:40
    1. hervert d'egville surname
    2. allen hindmarsh
    3. Hi Folks, I am a new subscriber to this list and have discovered the surname D'Egville in my tree. So far I have ascertained Lewis (or Louis) Hervert D'Egville married Mary Day 1804 at St Michael's Bedwardine Worcestershire. Of the 9 known children, I have come forward via 1861 on 3 of them: James born abt 1813 married one Charlotte Augusta ? before Nov 1837, nil after 1861, William married Harriet Day 5 Jan 1847 and Louis married Louise ? around 1855. As you can imagine, tracing these folks is difficult as the name is usually misspelt (to say the least). If anyone can help or point me in the right direction it would break down the brick walls I have encountered so far. They were Professors of both music and dance as well as stage actors in many plays etc. Many Thanks (John James) Allen Hindmarsh -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 20/05/2005

    05/21/2005 04:12:42
    1. Ann Parry - Bromsgrove
    2. D&M Goodwin
    3. My gggm was Ann Parry born c 1805 Stoke Prior Worcs. On the 1881 census she was living with her son Matthew and family at Long Eye farm Bromsgrove, her age is stated as 76 years. Fact - Ann's husband was Richard Parry, I have the marriage of Matthew (1856 Bromsgrove Parish Church) which states his father to be Richard. I have not been able to find the marriage of Richard & Ann yet. I believe Ann's maiden name could be George. I believe (hope)the following entries on the 1851 & 1861 to be Richard & Ann Parry my family. 1851 Piece 2047 Folio 281 Schedule 101 Bromsgrove,Bromsgrove Lickey End Richard Parry Head Married 49 Ag.labourer Bromsgrove,WOR Ann Wife M 43 " " " " Thomas Son Unm 17 " " " " Emma Herliton Vis M 22 Stoke,WOR Alfred Herliton Vis 2 Birmingham,WAR Charles Tomson Lod Unm 21 Ag.labourer Kingsbury,WAR 1861 Lickey's End next to Crows Mill Richard Parry H. mar. aged 58 Ag. Lab. b. Bromsgrove Ann wife aged 53 Ag. Lab's wife born Stoke, Worcs. Alfred Harkestone grandson aged 11 b. Birmingham Ann has gained 3 years by the 1881 census, if the above is correct then she should be stated as 73 not 76. There is another Ann Parry on the 1881 census born 1813 Upton Worcs. living in Bromsgrove also a widow. Is there any one on the list who has access to an earlier census that can tell me the name of Ann Parry's (born 1813) husband. I hope that it is not Richard. I am trying to prove that Emma on the 1851 census (the surname should read Hurlstone) is the sister of Matthew. I have the marriage certificate for Emma Parry & Henry Hurlstone and Emma's father is Richard. It all seems quite conclusive but as we all know you can never be absolutely sure. I need to feel sure that there was only one Richard & Ann Parry and that the Ann Parry (born 1813) was not married to a Richard. Best wishes Margaret www.thegoodies.org.uk

    05/21/2005 03:45:42
    1. Re: [WOR] WILKES - Lickey End/Catshill/Staple Hill/Bromsgrove
    2. John Tysoe
    3. Hello Colin, The Lickey was transferred to Birmingham Diocese in 1905, so it seems not altogether unreasonable for Bham Central Library to hold its registers. Records Offices are (broadly) set up to deal with matters pertaining to the Civil Administration Units within the boundaries of their Civil Authorities - but The Lickey's Registers are Ecclesiastical. There's bound to be Border Conflicts in any case - the Simple Answer would really be for both to hold copies - but that's a Practical Solution, and bureaucracies don't hold with such things :-) Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Wood <ColinWood@bromsgrove30.fsnet.co.uk> To: <> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] WILKES - Lickey End/Catshill/Staple Hill/Bromsgrove > Even though Holy Trinity [The] Lickey Church is in Worcestershire the > registers, for some reason, have been deposited at Birmingham Library. (6th > floor) > > Worcester FHC certainly have not got copies. > > I'm fairly sure the registers have not been filmed too. > > HTH > > Colin, > researching all Bromsgrove born CRAWFORDs > > > > > The parish of [The] Lickey was solely Ecclesiastical. The parish, and its > > church (Holy Trinity) were established in 1858 out of parts of the > > ecclesiastical parishes of Bromsgove and Catshill (itself created around > > 1838-44 out of Bromsgrove). > > > > For Civil purposes ir remained in Bromsgrove parish. > > > > > > You don't say 'where' the registers are not on film - the LDS? > > > > But the chances are high that they have been filmed, and are available at > > Worcester History Centre - although I'll freely admit I've never looked > for > > them! > > > > HTH > > > > Gus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ian Preece <ian@preece67.fsnet.co.uk> > > To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:05 AM > > Subject: [WOR] WILKES - Lickey End/Catshill/Staple Hill/Bromsgrove > > > > > > > Morning/afternoon all. > > > > > > Now following up a new line of the Wilkes families in and around > Catshill > > > near Bromsgrove. > > > > > > Enoch, George and William all feature between 1850 and 1890. > > > > > > They were from Bromsgrove, and seem to have set up a real hotspot of > > Wilkes > > > families in the Staple Hill area on the edge of Lickey End by the 1891 > > > census, and I have them in a variety of census records from 1851 > onwards. > > > > > > I see the registers for Lickey are not on film, does anyone have > > experience > > > of viewing the registers, are they still at the church? > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > > > > > Ian Preece > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005 > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > > > FreeREG Project: parish register database > > > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > > > > > UK Census on-line > > > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > > FreeREG Project: parish register database > > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > > > UK Census on-line > > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > >

    05/21/2005 03:03:17
    1. Re: [WOR] WILKES - Lickey End/Catshill/Staple Hill/Bromsgrove
    2. Colin Wood
    3. Even though Holy Trinity [The] Lickey Church is in Worcestershire the registers, for some reason, have been deposited at Birmingham Library. (6th floor) Worcester FHC certainly have not got copies. I'm fairly sure the registers have not been filmed too. HTH Colin, researching all Bromsgrove born CRAWFORDs > The parish of [The] Lickey was solely Ecclesiastical. The parish, and its > church (Holy Trinity) were established in 1858 out of parts of the > ecclesiastical parishes of Bromsgove and Catshill (itself created around > 1838-44 out of Bromsgrove). > > For Civil purposes ir remained in Bromsgrove parish. > > > You don't say 'where' the registers are not on film - the LDS? > > But the chances are high that they have been filmed, and are available at > Worcester History Centre - although I'll freely admit I've never looked for > them! > > HTH > > Gus > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ian Preece <ian@preece67.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:05 AM > Subject: [WOR] WILKES - Lickey End/Catshill/Staple Hill/Bromsgrove > > > > Morning/afternoon all. > > > > Now following up a new line of the Wilkes families in and around Catshill > > near Bromsgrove. > > > > Enoch, George and William all feature between 1850 and 1890. > > > > They were from Bromsgrove, and seem to have set up a real hotspot of > Wilkes > > families in the Staple Hill area on the edge of Lickey End by the 1891 > > census, and I have them in a variety of census records from 1851 onwards. > > > > I see the registers for Lickey are not on film, does anyone have > experience > > of viewing the registers, are they still at the church? > > > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > > > Ian Preece > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005 > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > > FreeREG Project: parish register database > > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > > > UK Census on-line > > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > >

    05/21/2005 02:18:59
    1. Site Update - Parishmouse - Churchill Photos
    2. S LLOYD
    3. Hello All Just a quick note to say Parishmouse has been updated today (21 May) adding pictures of Churchill in Oswaldslow and the graves with descriptions. The churchyard was very overgrown and quite a few of the graves were unreadable. I have however included them in case anyone can work out who they are from a plan. I am hoping to get White Ladies Aston up next but may take a while as there are 178 photos to add descriptions to so I may put them all up and then update them as I go. The address is www.parishmouse.co.uk All the best Sally

    05/20/2005 06:48:58
    1. Site Update Again - Parishmouse Church Photos
    2. S LLOYD
    3. Hello All Just a quick note to say Parishmouse has been updated for a second time today adding some more pictures of Upton Snodsbury and some of the graves with descriptions. When I visit there again I will attempt to photograph all the graves but this time I was just passing on the way to somewhere else. I am hoping to get White Ladies Aston up next and/or Churchill If anyone knows of a good free site search engine that allows a soundex search please let me know and then I can add it to the site and make it a little easier to find people. Thanks for all the nice emails ... it does help when faced with hundreds of photos to sort out and add descriptions to ... one day I might get some of my own research done :)) The address is www.parishmouse.co.uk All the best Sally

    05/20/2005 01:57:10
    1. Site Update - Parishmouse Church Photos
    2. S LLOYD
    3. Hello All Parishmouse site has been updated today as follows: 1. Drakes Broughton updated - descriptions added 2. Hill Croome has been added complete with descriptions - lots of old stones with some dating back to the 1700s. Also references to people buried here who resided at Upton on Severn, Severn Stoke and even Cheltenham. The following will be added to the existing parishes as I get time: Update to Bradley - Gravestones photographed; Hindlip; Bromsgrove - St Johns (292+ photos!), Kempsey; Churchill; White Ladies Aston; Dodford - photographs have been taken and will be uploaded soon! If anyone knows of a good free site search engine that allows a soundex search please let me know and then I can add it to the site and make it a little easier to find people. The address is www.parishmouse.co.uk All the best Sally

    05/20/2005 10:43:46
    1. Unsubcribe
    2. Eric Osborne
    3. Thanks to all for their help

    05/20/2005 10:15:00
    1. Re: [WOR] WILKES - Lickey End/Catshill/Staple Hill/Bromsgrove
    2. John Tysoe
    3. The parish of [The] Lickey was solely Ecclesiastical. The parish, and its church (Holy Trinity) were established in 1858 out of parts of the ecclesiastical parishes of Bromsgove and Catshill (itself created around 1838-44 out of Bromsgrove). For Civil purposes ir remained in Bromsgrove parish. You don't say 'where' the registers are not on film - the LDS? But the chances are high that they have been filmed, and are available at Worcester History Centre - although I'll freely admit I've never looked for them! HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Preece <ian@preece67.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: [WOR] WILKES - Lickey End/Catshill/Staple Hill/Bromsgrove > Morning/afternoon all. > > Now following up a new line of the Wilkes families in and around Catshill > near Bromsgrove. > > Enoch, George and William all feature between 1850 and 1890. > > They were from Bromsgrove, and seem to have set up a real hotspot of Wilkes > families in the Staple Hill area on the edge of Lickey End by the 1891 > census, and I have them in a variety of census records from 1851 onwards. > > I see the registers for Lickey are not on film, does anyone have experience > of viewing the registers, are they still at the church? > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > Ian Preece > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005 > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > >

    05/20/2005 06:20:42
    1. WILKES - Lickey End/Catshill/Staple Hill/Bromsgrove
    2. Ian Preece
    3. Morning/afternoon all. Now following up a new line of the Wilkes families in and around Catshill near Bromsgrove. Enoch, George and William all feature between 1850 and 1890. They were from Bromsgrove, and seem to have set up a real hotspot of Wilkes families in the Staple Hill area on the edge of Lickey End by the 1891 census, and I have them in a variety of census records from 1851 onwards. I see the registers for Lickey are not on film, does anyone have experience of viewing the registers, are they still at the church? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Ian Preece -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005

    05/20/2005 05:05:45
    1. BATES, "Berrows"? Newspaper
    2. Campbell Stanford
    3. My relatives were the BATES family of Diglis, Worcester. Rumour has it that Fred Bates (born 1883) may have been the editor of a Diglis newspaper. Some relatives say they used to receive the "Berrows"? Worcester Journal whilst living in Worcester in the 1920's. Can anyone give me any more information or ideas to obtain more data on these matters? Sure would appreciate it.

    05/19/2005 08:41:51
    1. Re: [WOR] BATES, "Berrows"? Newspaper
    2. Wythall Index
    3. Hello Campbell It is now on http://www.berrowsjournal.co.uk/ Mike Fisher Wythall,WOR One-Place Genealogical Study http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wythallindex/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] BATES, "Berrows"? Newspaper > Hello Campbell, > > Berrows Worcester Journal - "The Oldest Newspaper In The World" ** - is > still Alive and Well. > > Their website would seem to be < www.thisisworcester..co.uk > - or at > least > *was* in late 2001. > > ** Continuously-published, that is. And a Weekly. Founded 1692 > > > I don't know offhand of a Diglis-based newspaper, for as far as I'm aware > Berrows was produced at The Trinity, very close to the City Centre. > > But the company also produced a daily Evening Paper - "The News" (or maybe > "The Times") which was amalgamated with its rival around the mid-1930s. > Fred > BATES could have worked for any of them - and the other *might* have been > produced in Diglis, some ¾ mile South of The Trinity. > > HTH > > Gus > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Campbell Stanford <stanford@ihug.co.nz> > To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 3:41 AM > Subject: [WOR] BATES, "Berrows"? Newspaper > > >> My relatives were the BATES family of Diglis, Worcester. >> Rumour has it that Fred Bates (born 1883) may have been the editor of a >> Diglis newspaper. Some relatives say they used to receive the "Berrows"? >> Worcester Journal whilst living in Worcester in the 1920's. >> >> Can anyone give me any more information or ideas to obtain more data on >> these matters? Sure would appreciate it. >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== >> Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG >> for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com >> UK Census on-line >> http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ >> http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ >> >> > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > >

    05/19/2005 03:01:38
    1. Re: [WOR] BATES, "Berrows"? Newspaper
    2. John Tysoe
    3. Hello Campbell, Berrows Worcester Journal - "The Oldest Newspaper In The World" ** - is still Alive and Well. Their website would seem to be < www.thisisworcester..co.uk > - or at least *was* in late 2001. ** Continuously-published, that is. And a Weekly. Founded 1692 I don't know offhand of a Diglis-based newspaper, for as far as I'm aware Berrows was produced at The Trinity, very close to the City Centre. But the company also produced a daily Evening Paper - "The News" (or maybe "The Times") which was amalgamated with its rival around the mid-1930s. Fred BATES could have worked for any of them - and the other *might* have been produced in Diglis, some ¾ mile South of The Trinity. HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: Campbell Stanford <stanford@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 3:41 AM Subject: [WOR] BATES, "Berrows"? Newspaper > My relatives were the BATES family of Diglis, Worcester. > Rumour has it that Fred Bates (born 1883) may have been the editor of a > Diglis newspaper. Some relatives say they used to receive the "Berrows"? > Worcester Journal whilst living in Worcester in the 1920's. > > Can anyone give me any more information or ideas to obtain more data on > these matters? Sure would appreciate it. > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > >

    05/19/2005 01:20:16
    1. RE: [WOR] Harriet GOODYEAR
    2. Helen Verrall
    3. Evelyn I have checked the image page for the entry for Harriet Goodyear, definitely states Born Cradley HEF, she is a servant in a household of Ann HARRISON, a widow , is aged 16- Parish St James' Leigh, Worcestershire. Source information: RG9/2088 Registration district: Martley Sub-registration district: Leigh ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 70 Page: 30 Household schedule number: 147 Also in FreeBMD is a registration for a Birth of Harriet GOODYEAR in Dec ¼ 1846 , is Registered in Bromyard, Year: 1846 District: Bromyard County: Herefordshire Hereford and Worcester Worcestershire Volume: 26 Page: 163 Which fits with 1861 entry - this Harriet would have been 6 when 1851 Census recorded. Sorry no sign of Elizabeth - did she perhaps marry bet. 1851 and 1861 ?? There is one Elizabeth GOODYEAR - aged 36 born in Grimley - but she is wife of John GOODYEAR Happy Hunting Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Evelyn Seeburger [mailto:seeburger@hsfx.ca] Sent: Wednesday, 18 May 2005 3:04 p.m. To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WOR] Harriet GOODYEAR Hi all, I'm searching for info on an ancestor Harriet GOODYEAR born abt 1848. In the 1851 census she is 3 yrs old, living with mother Elizabeth GOODYEAR (my g-g-grandmother) in Grimley WOR. After that I cannot find Harriet or Elizabeth. On the 1861 census index with Ancestry there is a Harriet GOODYEAR, born 1845 in Herefordshire, living in Worcestershire that looks interesting. Does anyone have access to the 1861 census that could give me particulars please? I'm hoping if I find Harriet I'll find Elizabeth..... Please note my new email address. Thanks very much, Sincerely, Evelyn Seeburger seeburger@hsfx.ca ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== FreeREG Project: parish register database http://freereg.rootsweb.com UK Census on-line http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/

    05/18/2005 09:41:31
    1. RE: [WOR] Look up request
    2. Helen Verrall
    3. Sue Located this family of SARSON in Alcester - perhaps the widow of the brother of Samuel, Head: SARSONS, Dorothy Neighbors 335582 Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Dorothy SARSONS Head W 36 F No Business Annuitant Tardebigg-War Mary SARSONS Daur U 12 F At Home Tardebigg-Wor F. L. SARSONS Son U 11 M At Home Tardebigg-Wor Grace G. SARSONS Daur U 10 F At Home Tardebigg-Wor Willm. A. SARSONS Son U 8 M At Home Tardebigg-Wor Matthew H. SARSONS Son - 6 M At Home Tardebigg-Wor Jane BUTLER Lodg U 22 F Family Governess Worburn-Buk Hannah ANDREWS Serv U 22 F House Servant Cropthorne-Wor Address: Mount Pleasant, --- Census Place: Ipsley Alcester, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2075 Folio: 96 Page: 15 FHL Film: 0087344 Sophia had already remarried by 1851 Census - Head: JOINER, Daniel Neighbors 335659 Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Daniel JOINER Head M 49 M Cordwainer Henley In Arden-War Sophia JOINER Wife M 50 F Needle Paperer Tardebigg-Wor Mary JOINER Daur U 22 F Needle Driller Alcester-War Amanda JOINER Daur U 19 F Shoe Binder Alcester-War Amelia JOINER Daur U 14 F Needle Setter Alcester-War John Sparry JOINER Son U 12 M Cordwainer Alcester-War Alexander JOINER Son U 10 M Scholar Alcester-War Emily LARSONS (JOINER) WifD U 14 F Needle Driller Feckenham-Wor Joseph LARSONS (JOINER) WiSn U 13 M Fish Hook Maker Feckenham-Wor Hariet LARSONS (JOINER) WifD U 10 F Nurse Maid Ipsley-War Address: Headless Cross, --- Census Place: Ipsley Alcester, Warwickshire PRO Reference: HO/107/2075 Folio: 107 Page: 36 FHL Film: 0087344 1841 Census of Ipsley, Warwickshire HO107/1224/6 Folio 7 Page 6 Headless Cross SARSONS Samuel 40 Needle Maker Not Born in County Sophia 35 " " Selina 14 " " Mary 13 " " Eliza 9 " " Emmila 5 " " Joseph 3 " " Harriet 2mths Born in County hth Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Sue Haycraft [mailto:shaycraft@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, 18 May 2005 11:15 a.m. To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WOR] Look up request I wonder if someone with access to the 1851 or 1841 census would be good enough to look in the Feckenham or Ipsley areas for Sophia Sarsons born 1797 in Tardebigg. Her husband was Samuel Sarsons. Samuel died, I believe, about 1845. chn of Sophia and Samuel are: Thomas b 1824 Selina b 1826 b Feckenham Mary Sophia b 1828 Caroline b 1829 Eliza b 1831 Joseph b 1839 Feckenham Harriet b 1841 Ipsley Sophia is is found in the 1861 census at 162 Headless Cross as Sophia Joiner in the civil parish of Ipsley Ecc. parish St. Luke reg. dist. Alcester sub reg. dist. Studley. Thanks for any help. Sue ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== For Worcestershire information see http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WOR/ UK Census on-line http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/

    05/18/2005 05:57:19
    1. Thank you
    2. Sue Haycraft
    3. Thank you, Helen from New Zealand, for the speedy look up. This is really helpful and I think you are right that Dorothy Sarsons was the widow of Samuel's brother--though I haven't proven the connection. Selina Sarsons was my ggrandmother so I really needed this information. Thanks again for your help. Sue from U.S.A. .

    05/17/2005 05:19:57