Hello All Just a quick note to say Parishmouse has been updated adding pictures of Throckmorton and Naunton Beauchamp. At the weekend I have did some reorganisation of the site so if you weren't able to access it well it is probably my fault! Anyway all should be well now. If you notice something missing let me know and I can put it back as I might have missed something in the reorganisation. All the best Sally www.parishmouse.co.uk

Yes Folks it me again. There's another opportunity to bump into relatives this Bank Holiday Sunday and Monday, 29 & 30 May, from 10.30 am until 5 pm. This time at Avoncroft Museum of buildings. Bromsgrove BMSGH and The Bromsgrove Society will have stands there. The record for the last event was 15 relative connections. So shut down that computer, leave the gardening till the week after and make "yurself" known. You never know, some of the photos may be of your lot. -- Mike Yegwart Bromsgrove Branch Chairman BMSGH bmsgh.org

Would anyone have any information on Samuel Sarsons or Sophia Shortland, b 23 July 1797, in Redditch, Worcs. They married 25 Dec. 1823 Tardebigg. Samuel died abt 1845 and Sophia remarried before 1851 to a Daniel Joiner. Thanks for any help. Sue

IHi Trevor, I found this from the Claines church through the Hugh Wallis Batch number site. I hope this is enoiugh info. IGI Individual Record FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Pedigree JOHN HOLDEN Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 08 MAR 1844 Claines, Worcester, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN HOLDEN Family Mother: EMMA Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P021372 1785 - 1847 0352033 Film 1235450 Film P021372 1785 - 1847 0352033 Film NONE Sheet: 00 ----- Original Message ----- From: "trevor hackett" <trevor.hackett@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 6:45 AM Subject: [WOR] Claines Church - look-up please > Could sks look up a baptism at the above church I beleive my gt grandfather may have been baptised there on 7th April 1844 (Easter Sunday). His name was John (Watkins)? HOLDEN and his parents were John and Emma HOLDEN - He was born 1st February 1844 in Worcester, his birth certificate isn't very legible so his surname could be HOLDEN/HOLDER? > > Many thanks in advance. > > Susan > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ >

Many thanks for all the suggestions about the records for Lickey, it seems for those who haven't seen the correspondence that they are held at Birmingham Central Library. For anyone with links in that general area, I have today found some of "my" Wilkes families from Bromsgrove baptised at Cofton Hackett - the records for there have been filmed but I don't think they form part of the IGI. There seem to be lots of families in the records there giving their abode either as Bromsgrove or Kings Norton. Best wishes Ian Preece -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 22/05/2005

On 23 May, John Tysoe <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > 2) The only information it gave was her name, date of birth, date of > registration, and the Register number and Entry number. It also bore a > "NOTICE - This Certificate when duly filled up by the Registrar, is to > be given (*on demand*) to the INFORMANT at the time of Registering th > Birth, on payment of a fee not exceeding Three-pence [1¼p]". I have > never seen such a document before - it is printed on flimsy paper and > measures some 6½ x 4½in [165 x 115mm], and isn't stamped. 3) It would > seem that she never had any other certificate - my father was meticulous > in his filing of 'Important Papers' - but she nonethelss held a series > of passports... Ah yes this would be the "short form" birth certificate, which just gives the details of the person born and very little else. It was perfectly acceptable to authorities but i'm not sure it is now. My mother's birth certificate was just a fragile scrap of paper when it came to me. I spent the £7.00 on a full version because it was clear that if I handled the original very much it would fall apart. -- Chris Ramsbottom researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY CAMPTON, GREGORY all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day

Hi Cathy, If you go to http://bmsgh.org/ then Bookshop on the left panel, then Parishes, etc, in the Worcestershire box you will find a great many parishes have had their monumental inscriptions recorded on to microfiche. Unfortunately air pollution is destroying much of the text of old tombstones. (It is also not good practise to dig out moss and lichen, the sandstone often comes with it.) Good hunting -- Mike Yegwart Bromsgrove Branch Chairman BMSGH bmsgh.org

Claire I cannot locate them on the 1851 Census for Worcestershire ! Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Claire [mailto:PCH71@surefish.co.uk] Sent: Monday, 23 May 2005 7:29 a.m. To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WOR] 1851 look up request please Hi, Would anyone be able to do a look up for me please on the 1851 census? I'm trying to find the MAUND family: John Maund Head age either 28 or 39 Baker born Worcester, Worcestershire Emma Maund Wife age 32 born Bath, Somerset John Maund son age 1 born Birkenhead, Cheshire Apparently they are not in Birkenhead on the 1851 census. I wondered whether they had returned to Worcester after the birth of their son. I have located them from 1861 onwards in Liverpool. Appreciate any help given. Thanks Claire ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com UK Census on-line http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/

Hi John, This site might help. http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/indexbd.htm Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tysoe" <gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 11:32 AM Subject: [WOR] Certificates in general > I have been preparing the Estate Accounts of my late father, and among his > papers I came across both his and my mother's original birth certificates > and their original marriage certificate. > > All of them provided (to me at any rate) minor surprises. > > Father's Birth Certificate > 1) I had believed all birth certificates were printed in red ink - but > this one, dated 19 April 1911 - was in black. When did the colour change? > 2) The price was 2s. 7d [13p in Funny Money], while for a copy (if > requested later) it was 3s. 7d (including 1d Stamp Duty and a 1-year search) > plus 6d Search Fee for every other year that year [18p + 2½p]... > > Mother's Birth 'Certificate' > 1) Although printed in red, it was a 'Certificate of Registration of > Birth' dated 19 November 1913. > 2) The only information it gave was her name, date of birth, date of > registration, and the Register number and Entry number. > It also bore a "NOTICE - This Certificate when duly filled up by the > Registrar, is to be given (*on demand*) to the INFORMANT at the time of > Registering th Birth, on payment of a fee not exceeding Three-pence [1¼p]". > I have never seen such a document before - it is printed on flimsy paper > and measures some 6½ x 4½in [165 x 115mm], and isn't stamped. > 3) It would seem that she never had any other certificate - my father was > meticulous in his filing of 'Important Papers' - but she nonethelss held a > series of passports... > > Parents' Marriage Certificate > 1) Dated 25 September 1937 it was evidently written out in full by the > Vicar of Claines Church - who copied *everything* - including the signatures > of the happy Couple and their witnesses. > 2) Was this a usual practice - and if so, when did it cease? > > Gus > > PS My apologies for the cross-posting > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > >

Could sks look up a baptism at the above church I beleive my gt grandfather may have been baptised there on 7th April 1844 (Easter Sunday). His name was John (Watkins)? HOLDEN and his parents were John and Emma HOLDEN - He was born 1st February 1844 in Worcester, his birth certificate isn't very legible so his surname could be HOLDEN/HOLDER? Many thanks in advance. Susan

I have been preparing the Estate Accounts of my late father, and among his papers I came across both his and my mother's original birth certificates and their original marriage certificate. All of them provided (to me at any rate) minor surprises. Father's Birth Certificate 1) I had believed all birth certificates were printed in red ink - but this one, dated 19 April 1911 - was in black. When did the colour change? 2) The price was 2s. 7d [13p in Funny Money], while for a copy (if requested later) it was 3s. 7d (including 1d Stamp Duty and a 1-year search) plus 6d Search Fee for every other year that year [18p + 2½p]... Mother's Birth 'Certificate' 1) Although printed in red, it was a 'Certificate of Registration of Birth' dated 19 November 1913. 2) The only information it gave was her name, date of birth, date of registration, and the Register number and Entry number. It also bore a "NOTICE - This Certificate when duly filled up by the Registrar, is to be given (*on demand*) to the INFORMANT at the time of Registering th Birth, on payment of a fee not exceeding Three-pence [1¼p]". I have never seen such a document before - it is printed on flimsy paper and measures some 6½ x 4½in [165 x 115mm], and isn't stamped. 3) It would seem that she never had any other certificate - my father was meticulous in his filing of 'Important Papers' - but she nonethelss held a series of passports... Parents' Marriage Certificate 1) Dated 25 September 1937 it was evidently written out in full by the Vicar of Claines Church - who copied *everything* - including the signatures of the happy Couple and their witnesses. 2) Was this a usual practice - and if so, when did it cease? Gus PS My apologies for the cross-posting

Hi all, The 1861 census for for my ggrandfather JOHN PITT living in Worcester shows him working as a signalman for what looks like the N M Railway. There's also a 12 year old with a different name ( looks like JOSHUA ROBERTSON) 'working in the engine shed' but shown as his son. Can anyone identify the name of Railway Company they worked for? Many thanks John Pitt _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk

Hello All Just a quick note to say Parishmouse has been updated today (23 May) adding pictures of Kempsey and some of the graves with descriptions. This weekend I have done some reorganisation of the site so if you weren't able to access it well it is probably my fault! Anyway all should be well now. If you notice something missing let me know and I can put it back as I might have missed something in the reorganisation. All the best Sally www.parishmouse.co.uk

Hi, Would anyone be able to do a look up for me please on the 1851 census? I'm trying to find the MAUND family: John Maund Head age either 28 or 39 Baker born Worcester, Worcestershire Emma Maund Wife age 32 born Bath, Somerset John Maund son age 1 born Birkenhead, Cheshire Apparently they are not in Birkenhead on the 1851 census. I wondered whether they had returned to Worcester after the birth of their son. I have located them from 1861 onwards in Liverpool. Appreciate any help given. Thanks Claire

Hello list Seeking any information on PEPLOW/PEPLOE , who were in the Cleeve Prior, parish c1835. Only 1 baptism appears on the IGI, Ann PEPLOE to John and Charlotte in 1835 I am seeking information on Walter, George. From earlier information received, George does not appear to be of the PEPLOW family in Bromsgrove. Thank you Glenys

Hi Cathy, Grave markers in England, and I thought in other parts of the world too, are called tombstones, gravestones or monuments. Monumental inscriptions are the inscriptions written on the tombstones etc. As regards your question "are there many of either in churchyards dating back into the 1600 - middle 1800's", most old churches still have very many dating back to this time (and before). My local church has gravestones dating back to the early 1700's, although some are difficult to read now. The trend in some area's is to clear churchyards of gravestones and place them around the perimeter wall. Reasons given are to "tidy up" or because of health and safety reasons, in case one falls onto someone. Where are you Cathy? How are your graves marked? Chris Abbley - Researching Abley/Abbley surnames worldwide.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Please forgive my lack of knowledge but, in England are the grave markers know as monument inscriptions or tombstones? Also, are there many of either in church yards dating back into the 1600 - middle 1800's? If not, where did they go? Thanks Cathy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Outgoing and incoming mail is Norton Antivirus Checked

Greetings, I was wondering if anyone has information on the following family; Name: - Thomas WILKS Birth: - 1807, Wochestershire. Death: - 29/7/1875, Largs, NSW, Australia. Father: - John WILKS Mother: - Martha MOOR m) 18/9/1806 - Halesowen, Worcester. Married: - Mary Ann RALLINGS, 17/7/1831, Old Swinford, Worchestershire. Children: - Ellen, Mary Ann, Jane, Martha, William Henry, Thomas John, Richard Edwin, & Matilda. Imm: - 16/12/1840 - Royal Sovereign to Sydney. Any help would be appreciated, Jon Oldfield

Thank you everyone who helped on this issue. I have learned a great deal and hope to view some of my ancestors gravestones while I'm in England this summer. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Glenys, there is only one George Peplowe on the Worcs 1851. He is in Harborne, Kings Norton and born in 1837. Best Wishes from Linda.

I have a William Wilkes born approx 1868 who married Louisa Partridge b. Approx 1868 in Harborne. They Married 1889 in Kings Norton and had a son Harry G. Wilkes born 1891. I have no other information and do Not know where William Wilkes was born. He was a Cabinet Maker. Regards, Carol