Hello everyone, I am trying to find where an ancestor and his family lived. The ancestor is Richard Jarvis, born at Ebrington in the Cotswolds and also buried there but who died in the Workhouse at Shipston on Stour. Most ancestors have been found in the Cotswolds, but Richard and his family do not appear there. I have just received a certificate confirming his death at the Workhouse but still need to know where he was living prior to entering there. Can anyone help with the following queries? 1. Is it possible to access documents from the Shipston Workhouse which might show where the inmate was living prior to entry. 2. Was there a 1841 census for Worcestershire when Richard would have been 75 years of age. Any help much appreciated. Regards to all, Colin Jarvis.

On 10 Jun, colin jarvis <colcon2@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hello everyone, I am trying to find where an ancestor and his family > lived. The ancestor is Richard Jarvis, born at Ebrington in the > Cotswolds and also buried there but who died in the Workhouse at > Shipston on Stour. Most ancestors have been found in the Cotswolds, but > Richard and his family do not appear there. I have just received a > certificate confirming his death at the Workhouse but still need to know > where he was living prior to entering there. I do apologise if you are already aware of this, but Shipston on Stour is in Warwickshire these days. Around that area there are many county borders such as Oxfordshire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire as well as Worcestershire and Gloucestershire, so you may be faced with a large inter-county search! > Can anyone help with the following queries? 1. Is it possible to access > documents from the Shipston Workhouse which might show where the inmate > was living prior to entry. 2. Was there a 1841 census for Worcestershire > when Richard would have been 75 years of age. 2. There was an 1841 Census for Worcestershire, and I think Rod Neep's website sells it. > Any help much appreciated. > Regards to all, > Colin Jarvis. -- Chris Ramsbottom researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY CAMPTON, GREGORY all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day

Re: SUBJECT Tracing ancestor. aren't we all!! could we have more helpful subject lines please Mike in Droitwich

Hi Colin, Although Shipston on Stour was a part of Worcestershire, it was a 'detached' part, with a good 5 miles clear water between it and the mainland... And 75 years ago it was transferred to Warwickshire, whose Records Office is likely to hold what records (probably extremely few) survive of its Workhouse. However, Shipston was included in the WOR 1841 Census - in Piece number 1203, "Sections" 11 (Workhouse) and 12 (The Parish). HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: colin jarvis <colcon2@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:03 AM Subject: [WOR] Tracing ancestor. > Hello everyone, > I am trying to find where an ancestor and his family lived. > The ancestor is Richard Jarvis, born at Ebrington in the Cotswolds and also buried there but who died in the Workhouse at Shipston on Stour. > Most ancestors have been found in the Cotswolds, but Richard and his family do not appear there. > I have just received a certificate confirming his death at the Workhouse but still need to know where he was living prior to entering there. > > Can anyone help with the following queries? > 1. Is it possible to access documents from the Shipston Workhouse which might show where the inmate was living prior to entry. > 2. Was there a 1841 census for Worcestershire when Richard would have been 75 years of age. > > Any help much appreciated. > > Regards to all, > > Colin Jarvis. > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > >

Far Forest is a village between Cleobury Mortimer and Bewdley Wolfie................getting bored with no football -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Turner [mailto:barbaraalan1066@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 09 June 2005 16:32 To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WOR] New subscriber, Braziers and Cleobury workhouse Hi everyone I am a new subscriber, trying to find out about Braziers in the Clifton on Teme, Great Whitley, Rock, areas. I would be delighted to hear from anyone with a similar interest. >From the 91 census, Edward Brazier and his wife, Sarah were inmates at Cleobury Workhouse, both having formerly lived at Tall Trees, Rock in 1881. ( It was Steph, on the Blackcountry site, who kindly found them at the workhouse) Rock is covered by Cleobury Workhouse. Now I have a death cert 1894, which seems to be his, but it says he died at Far Forest, Rock. RSD ( I'm not sure what RSD means either) Does anyone know if Far Forest was a private address, instituition or what? I was interested to read the other emails about deaths in Workhouses. My Edward Brazier was aged 76 in the workhouse and died 3 years later at "Far Forest". I was surprised he came out of the workhouse at that age. Cheers everyone, ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== FreeREG Project: parish register database http://freereg.rootsweb.com UK Census on-line http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/

Hello All Just to let you know that photos of Ombersley have now been added to the site including photos of the village and one of the old charity school established in 1729. BFN Sally www.parishmouse.co.uk

To whom it may concern I keep getting lots of emails from a mailing list. I think this mailing list is coming from you. Please let me know what I can do to stop them With regards Jacquline O'Riley

Hi everyone I am a new subscriber, trying to find out about Braziers in the Clifton on Teme, Great Whitley, Rock, areas. I would be delighted to hear from anyone with a similar interest. From the 91 census, Edward Brazier and his wife, Sarah were inmates at Cleobury Workhouse, both having formerly lived at Tall Trees, Rock in 1881. ( It was Steph, on the Blackcountry site, who kindly found them at the workhouse) Rock is covered by Cleobury Workhouse. Now I have a death cert 1894, which seems to be his, but it says he died at Far Forest, Rock. RSD ( I'm not sure what RSD means either) Does anyone know if Far Forest was a private address, instituition or what? I was interested to read the other emails about deaths in Workhouses. My Edward Brazier was aged 76 in the workhouse and died 3 years later at "Far Forest". I was surprised he came out of the workhouse at that age. Cheers everyone,

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Hi My 1851 census for Dudley is from mycensuses and it does not tie in with the pages listed on the Staffordshire county index I have just bought from BMSG. Please could some one with an 1851 census for Dudley that ties in with the Staffordshire county index just check the adrresses for me on pages: 2032 - pages 206 and 358 3033 - page 41 This should help me to locate the people I am looking for on the CD I have. Many thanks Jean

Just to let you all know that I have added some photos of Claines Church to the site. I have photographed all the memorials etc in the church and those will be added over the next few days along with some graves. Not all the graves were photographed today as the sunlight was so strong it was casting shadows on the stones and would not have looked good and would have meant a lot of them were difficult to read. I only live 5 mins away so will go back another day and photograph them in a better light. I also popped down to Ombersley and took some of the outside of the church. Unfortunately it was locked so no internal photos this time. Also if anything an even worse problem for the gravestones as they were nearly all facing into the sun so again I'll pop back and take them another day. I did however get some nice pics of the village and the old school that was set up in the 1700s and I managed to stay out of all the pubs for those who know Ombersley! BFN Sally

Helena, Yes the MIs have been recorded. They're on microfiche available from: http://bmsgh.org/, then go to Bookshop on the left hand panel. As regards Edward Bladon, I believe the records of The Earl of Plymouth went missing around 1950 when the estate was sold. But I may be wrong. You may find bits it the Quarter Session records. Also someone was working on a national database of gamekeepers. Can't remember who though. -- Mike Yegwart Bromsgrove Branch Chairman BMSGH bmsgh.org

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> > Gus has found Selina's baptism in Lower Mitton in Oct 1850 so it looks as though her birth wasn't registered. > Don't forget that the birth had to be registered in the registration district where the birth took place, but baptisms were sometimes performed elsewhere, presumably for family reasons. For instance, my grandmother was born in London, but christened in Dudley. Rob Tomlinson Looking for Deeley in Dudley -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 04/06/2005

Hi Helena Whilst at the Worcester Family History Centre today I had a look at the Monumental Inscription Books and found one for Tardebigge. There are records of two Clarks- Hubert James and Joyce - both born in the early 20th century. I can send the details off list. I couldn’t see a book which included Redditch. The parish was formed out of Tardebigge in 1855. If I may quote from Mike Yegwart’s email of 23rd May concerning monumental inscriptions “If you go to http://bmsgh.org/ then Bookshop on the left panel, then Parishes, etc, in the Worcestershire box you will find a great many parishes have had their monumental inscriptions recorded on to microfiche.” I have had a look at the website and there is a Reddditch microfiche which may contain what you are looking for. Here is the other Tardebigge information:- Thomas Buckley of Hewell Lane died 20 September 1884 aged 76. His grave is in Section D from the Plymouth wall downhill. Hope that makes sense as I don’t know the church or graveyard. In Margaret Dickens book “A Thousand Years of Tardebigge” published by Cornish Brothers Ltd in 1931 Thomas Buckley is mentioned on page 107 as he was Lady Windsor’s bailiff. It appears that in the 1860’s “some of the old farms disappeared altogether, such as the Dial House Farm and Bournes . The Park Gate Farm, opposite the lodges , was pulled down and plantations were made there. This farm, which had been the Home Farm , was transferred to its present position, the large farm buildings were erected, and the old house there was rebuilt for Mr Buckley, the bailiff and called Hewell Lane Farm Homestead, or Hewell Lane House.” I see that Thomas was living there at the time of the 1881 census where he was listed as a farmer with 350 acres. Edward Bladon - I think the Gamekeeper Registration Index which is in a bound volume at the Record Office at County Hall, ceases before 1820, but it may be worth checking. It is certainly a useful way to trace the whereabouts of a gamekeeper in Worcestershire over a number of years. Kind regards Jacquie

Hello Joan I was at the Worcester Family History Centre today and had a look for answers to some of your queries in the Worcestershire Marriage Index. The following marriages licences were obtained:- 18 October 1788 Robert Rea and Rhoda Sanders of College Precincts for Worcester, St Helens 20 October 1757 George Rea and Sara Tomkins of St Swithins, for Worcester, St Helens 31 October 1811 James Rea and Hannah Portman of St Helens, for Worcester St Johns I also found the following references to Worcestershire probate of wills for people who may be connected to your Rea family:- Robert Tomkins Rea of Worcester City probate February 1892 number 145. James Portman Rea of St John’s Worcester (presumably James and Hannah’s son) was dated August 1879 number 664 Hannah Rea of Worcester City, March 1897 number 142. As you know copies of the wills can be obtained by contacting the Worcester Family History Centre and quoting the full reference above. The charge is £3 plus 60p per page which includes postage. Regards Jacquie

Mary SHEPHERD, who I believe was my g.g.grandmother, died in Upton-on-Severn Workhouse on 4 March 1867 at the age of 81 years. The certificate states that her occupation was a labourer and that she died of natural decay, but gives no indication of her previous address. According to the 1861 Census she was a resident of Longdon. I have been informed that the Workhouse records for this period were destroyed sometime during the 1920s. Maurice (The LONGMORE Pages at www.msheppard.com) > I had one person die in the work house in Wincanton, SOM. The cert stated > that he was a "glover of Milborne Port", which was the town he lived in > previously... no other info, tho. Kay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: D&M Goodwin<mailto:famhist@thegoodwins.fastmail.fm> > To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 6:44 AM > Subject: Deaths in workhouses > > > Can anyone tell me when someone dies in a workhouse will the death > certificate give any clue as to their previous address. > > Margaret > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > >

I had one person die in the work house in Wincanton, SOM. The cert stated that he was a "glover of Milborne Port", which was the town he lived in previously... no other info, tho. Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: D&M Goodwin<mailto:famhist@thegoodwins.fastmail.fm> To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 6:44 AM Subject: Deaths in workhouses Can anyone tell me when someone dies in a workhouse will the death certificate give any clue as to their previous address. Margaret

Can anyone tell me when someone dies in a workhouse will the death certificate give any clue as to their previous address. Margaret

Visited Stoke Prior and Tardebigge at the weekend and vert difficult to read and get to some graves. Does anyone know if the MI's have been recorded? Researching BLADON CLARK - Tardebigge RICKARDS - Reddich CHAPMAN - Tardebigge BUCKLEY Also Edward Bladon was a gamkeeper at Tardebigge (Hewell) and records anywhere? He was there 1820 -1875 Helena