Lynn wrote : “Also note that a Japonner or Ornamental Japonner is someone who 'Applied Japanese style black hard varnish - "Japanning" What do you suppose he applied this to, would it have been on carriages I wonder?” Lynn: this topic has come up before. Have a look at the half a dozen emails in the Rootsweb Staffordshire-L archives for April, starting on 16 April, under the thread “Occupation Japannist?”, and the useful website reference in my own (separate) contribution “Japanner“ of 17 April. The Rootsweb reference is: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/STAFFORDSHIRE/2005-04, For the precise correspondence add /1113667144 and /1113738844 to the end of this url if you cannot easily spot them in the list. Best Wishes from Sydney, Oz, Keith Houghton,

Hi Graham 2047/789/14 Queen St Redditch George Gibbons h m 29 needle finisher Redditch WOR Jane Gibbons wi m 29 Redditch WOR Joseph Gibbons father 69 lodger on parish relief formerly needle maker Redditch WOR blind Mary Gibbons mother 66 " " " " " " " Redditch WOR Mary Ann Gibbons 33 sister needle maker Redditch WOR Mike Fisher Wythall,WOR One-Place Genealogical Study http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wythallindex/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Dixon " <grahamdixon@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:11 AM Subject: [WOR] 1851 lookup request GIBBONS > Hi guys and guyesses, > (yep - still early stages ! ) > > Wondering if there is s.k.s. out there with access to 1851 census who may > be able to > help. > (I don't have addresses so I presume an index would help. ) > > I'm looking for George GIBBONS (age c.30) maybe Needle Finisher or > similar, maybe in > Redditch or Tardebigge, and wife Jane (nee CARR) age c.28. > I don't know any children born before 1851 - there are none that old with > them in > 1861. > > Also - George's parents Joseph GIBBONS and Mary (nee WILKINSON) who would > both be > late 60s if still alive. Married at Tardebigge and children born at > Redditch - so > hopefully still there. > > cheers > Graham Dixon > (Auckland, New Zealand) > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > >

Chris Would a 73 year old, be a. Working on a Farm b. Working on Canal Boat When she had sucessfully lived off the Parish for over 20 years ? Helen -----Original Message----- From: famhist@dsl.pipex.com [mailto:famhist@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2005 7:50 p.m. To: Helen Verrall Cc: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WOR] Kiddermister Registry Office/Library On 19 Jun, Helen Verrall <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> wrote: > I am checking Workhouse Records, but doubtful that Margaret if > admitted to Kidderminster Workhouse would be transferred to Upton on > Severn, and we have no family connection there ( at least not with the > Nashes ) Margaret's only child my Gt Grandfather had moved with > wife and Family to Selly Oak, by 1901 !! > Any advice/help to help solve, this mystery would be gratefully > received. Hi Helen I wonder if she had gone to work on a farm there? Alternatively, as Upton on Severn is down the river from Kidderminster, would she have got employment on a boat? Or maybe she drowned in the river and her body got washed up in Upton, and the death would have had to be registered in Upton? Cheers -- Chris Ramsbottom researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY CAMPTON, GREGORY all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day

Hello all from a hot and sticky Worcester Over the last week Parishmouse has been revamped with a new style and larger photos both to view and download. Slideshows have also been added. If you come across any problems please let me know so I can fix it. I would also be interested in any comments or suggestions. Abbots Morton has been added today. Photos have also been taken for Kington near Inkberrow and Salwarpe and Martin Hussingtree. I have also taken photos today of St Mary's Old Swinford which I know quite a few of you have been waiting for. The photos are of both internal and external and a few graves. For more info on the updates and the photos that have been taken and what I'm working on please see the blog which can be accessed from the Parishmouse site. Notification of new parishes that will be added to the site during the week (which there is likely to be quite a few) will be added to the blog with an email notification to this list at the end of the week. Until next week ... Sally www.parishmouse.co.uk

Hi Mike, Somewhere around 1629 an act was passed that people were to be buried in wool. Apparently the wool industry was not doing well and this was to be a boost to the industry. Parish registers show "Aff. made" usually meaning that a witness had confirmed that the person was buried in wool. The act was not repealed until the early 1800s but went out of mode long before then in many parishes. Pauline

Hi Listers, Would any of these Milwards have ties to Old Swinford, Worcester? I'm researching Nevey's and Herberts who seem to have a connection with Milwards but so far I have not found the ties that bind! Any help gratefully received Pauline

I'd like to hear from anyone researching the Thowless surname in England. I have a grandfather and other ancestors from Worcester, but information is skimpy. Ric Thowless, Oregon, USA; thowless-1953@alumni.calpoly.edu

On 19 Jun, Helen Verrall <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> wrote: > Chris > Would a 73 year old, be a. Working on a Farm > b. Working on Canal Boat > When she had sucessfully lived off the Parish for over 20 years ? > Helen Who knows? I guess that leaves drowning. > -----Original Message----- > From: famhist@dsl.pipex.com [mailto:famhist@dsl.pipex.com] > Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2005 7:50 p.m. > To: Helen Verrall > Cc: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WOR] Kiddermister Registry Office/Library > On 19 Jun, Helen Verrall <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> wrote: > > I am checking Workhouse Records, but doubtful that Margaret if > > admitted to Kidderminster Workhouse would be transferred to Upton on > > Severn, and we have no family connection there ( at least not with the > > Nashes ) Margaret's only child my Gt Grandfather had moved with > > wife and Family to Selly Oak, by 1901 !! > > Any advice/help to help solve, this mystery would be gratefully > > received. > Hi Helen > I wonder if she had gone to work on a farm there? Alternatively, as Upton on > Severn is down the river from Kidderminster, would she have got employment > on a boat? Or maybe she drowned in the river and her body got washed up in > Upton, and the death would have had to be registered in Upton? > Cheers -- Chris Ramsbottom researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY CAMPTON, GREGORY all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day

Friends I cannot locate the Death of my 3 XGt Grandmother Margaret NASH - IN 1901 census she is listed as a Widow, living at, 94 Mill Street , Kidderminster, aged 69yrs ( born 1832 ) and living on Parish Relief. I have searched the GRO Index and can only find one Death Registered for a Margaret NASH nee ROEBUCK) in Worcestershire, for the approx time frame - it is the correct age, but I am puzzled as is in Upton upon Severn ! Thus - 672 Nash Margaret 73 Upton Upon Severn.6c 155 Death June¼ 1907 Is anybody going to Kidderminster Library in the near future - who could check Burials, possibly St John's Baptist Church, for a burial for Margaret in the period 1901 - 1920. Alternatively how willing are the Staff in the Registry Office in Kidderminster, would they be prepared to check for a Death registered there but not appearing on the National GRO Index ( has been known to occur) I am checking Workhouse Records, but doubtful that Margaret if admitted to Kidderminster Workhouse would be transferred to Upton on Severn, and we have no family connection there ( at least not with the Nashes ) Margaret's only child my Gt Grandfather had moved with wife and Family to Selly Oak, by 1901 !! Any advice/help to help solve, this mystery would be gratefully received. tia Helen New Zealand

Hello listers I am hoping that SKS help me with Betsey LANE baptised February 26th 1837 in the Parish of Oldbury, county of Salop. Her parents were William & Mary nee Loach. I have a copy of page 37 of the Baptisms for that day & Betsey's cousin Emma LOACH is listed directly above her. Emma's parents were Bemjamin & Emma. If someone has access to these records I would love to find out Betsey's entended family i.e. her parents marriage, her siblings, aunts & uncles. I have her Marrige Certificate marrying Edward PRICE 29th June 1873 in Dudley. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Regards Charles Lane

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On 19 Jun, Helen Verrall <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> wrote: > I am checking Workhouse Records, but doubtful that Margaret if admitted > to Kidderminster Workhouse would be transferred to Upton on Severn, and > we have no family connection there ( at least not with the Nashes ) > Margaret's only child my Gt Grandfather had moved with wife and > Family to Selly Oak, by 1901 !! > Any advice/help to help solve, this mystery would be gratefully > received. Hi Helen I wonder if she had gone to work on a farm there? Alternatively, as Upton on Severn is down the river from Kidderminster, would she have got employment on a boat? Or maybe she drowned in the river and her body got washed up in Upton, and the death would have had to be registered in Upton? Cheers -- Chris Ramsbottom researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY CAMPTON, GREGORY all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day

Hi Is there anyone who has access to Hallow Parrish Registers who could do a search for me, one c. 1815 and one c. 1853 ? Regards Bill (Spain)

Hello Sue, Mathon, despite being a Worcestershire Parish in 1851, was in Ledbury Registration District, and as such was treated for all Census purposes other than 1841 as being in Herefordshire - to which County it was formally transferred in 1897. Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Waller <coriander_1@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 12:37 PM Subject: [WOR] Ellen HILL b.1852 Mathon, Worcestershire > Hi everyone, > > I would be very grateful if someone who has access to the 1851 Census could > search for this family shown in the 1861 Census: > > Mathon > > Catherine Hill Head Widow 50 born Bosbury, Herefordshire > Charwoman > Elizabeth Spencer Dau M. 35 born Bosbury, Herefordshire > Needlewoman > John Hill Son 5 born Mathon, Worcestershire > Thomas Hill Dau's Son 5 born Bromyard, Herefordshire > Cripple > > Many thanks for any help. > > Sue (in sunny Kent) > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > >

Hi everyone, I would be very grateful if someone who has access to the 1851 Census could search for this family shown in the 1861 Census: Mathon Catherine Hill Head Widow 50 born Bosbury, Herefordshire Charwoman Elizabeth Spencer Dau M. 35 born Bosbury, Herefordshire Needlewoman John Hill Son 5 born Mathon, Worcestershire Thomas Hill Dau's Son 5 born Bromyard, Herefordshire Cripple Many thanks for any help. Sue (in sunny Kent)

Hallo Mike, Try this link http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/NandQ/Burying_in_Linen.html It should help you an others who wonder. Regards, Michael in Norway -----Original Message----- From: MIKE DAY [mailto:mikeday100@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 18. juni 2005 00:50 To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WOR] 'buried in woollen' Many thanks Wayne, our present government obviously hasn't 'cottoned' on to this - yet. Regards Mike ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== FreeREG Project: parish register database http://freereg.rootsweb.com UK Census on-line http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/

Hi Fellow Listers, Mike Day asked about People being "Buried in Wollen" in the Eldersfield Parish records. I hope the following explanation helps you and fellow listers. This refers to the Burial in Woollen Acts of 1667 These Acts were attempts to protect the English Wool Trade, and required that all bodies should be buried in Wool with the exception of those who died from the Plague. A Five pound fine was imposed for burials which did not comply with the Acts. By 1814 the Acts were repealed. Kathy HILL Committee Member Welsh Interest Group New Zealand Transcriber FREEBMD -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

Many thanks Wayne, our present government obviously hasn't 'cottoned' on to this - yet. Regards Mike

Hi, looking through the Eldersfield Parish records there is a year when all the burials, probably twenty or more, are all 'buried in woollen'. I thought maybe it meant without coffin but I can't believe that would apply to every single burial in the year. Can anyone explain? Regards Mike Day

Hi It could be HOBMOOR farm , you can just make out the --R Rd on picture gary hodge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wythall Index" <wythallindex@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: [WOR] Yardley Wood > Hi All > does anyone know the name of this farm in Yardley Wood on an old postcard > ? > > http://mjfisher.blogspot.com/ > > Mike Fisher > School Photos http://billesley.blogspot.com/ > Contact on billesley@btinternet.com > 07746391703 > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ > > >