Hi All Sept 10th & 11th is Heritage Weekend some of the events in Worcestershire can be found on http://www.heritageopendays.org/ed/worcestershire/ Mike Fisher Wythall,WOR One-Place Genealogical Study http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wythallindex/index.htm

Ian Saw your reply and noticed that you are researching ATKINS of Worcestershire. I have a Richard ATKINS born sometime about 1811. I do not know his parents or where he was really born (1851 census says Broom but not baptised in Broom). I do know that he was married in 1833 Bidford on Avon Warwickshire to a Deborah HOWELL. He was a papermaker. Do you have a Richard who may fill this criteria? Clutching at straws here. Rosalie Australia -----Original Message----- From: Ian Murray [mailto:ian.murray@tesco.net] Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 7:33 AM To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WOR] WorcHistCent Best Regards, Ian Murray ex: City of Worcester now: Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire - -------------------------------------------- Researching: (Worcestershire): ATKINS; BELL; COPE; DARKE;

Hi everyone Many thanks for all your help on this - it looks like the train! Jean

Hello Ruth, The other Blackwell was a Hamlet within the Parish of Bromsgrove - a little to the North-East of the town, and 'famous' for being at the top of the Birmingham & Gloucester Railway's 'Lickey Incline'. HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: ruth HARRIS <ruthharris@wells65.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: [WOR] Blackwell > My mother's ancestors all originated in the West Midlands. Her maiden name was ATTWOOD, and we have got as far back as a JAMES ATTWOOD, my great x 2 grandfather, who married ELIZA CORK in the parish church of Dudley in 1846 (both fathers named William). We have the census returns from 1851 -1881. James' birthplace is given in the 1851 census as BLACKWELL. I know there were two Blackwells in Worcester in the 19th century, and I know it wasn't the one in the parish of Tredington. I am unfamiliar with the West Midlands - does anyone know in which parish the other Blackwell was located? It wasn't a parish in its own right. James was born about 1821, and I would like to locate the parish registers to research parents and siblings. Incidentally, his birthplace is given as Netherton in the 1861 census, and for some reason as Stratford-on-Avon in the 1871 census, but I am sticking with Blackwell for the moment. > > Any help and advice appreciated. > > Ruth Harris > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > >

Hi Listers, Whilst visiting Evesham I went to Rous Lench to visit St Peters Church this is were a lot my ancestors are buried but found no grave stones with the name of OSBORNE and the church was locked it's a small village with not much to go on. But there is a book on Rous Lench the authors name is Dr Chafy I would like to know if anyone as come across it or where I could get a copy. Kind regards, Eric Osborne.

My mother's ancestors all originated in the West Midlands. Her maiden name was ATTWOOD, and we have got as far back as a JAMES ATTWOOD, my great x 2 grandfather, who married ELIZA CORK in the parish church of Dudley in 1846 (both fathers named William). We have the census returns from 1851 -1881. James' birthplace is given in the 1851 census as BLACKWELL. I know there were two Blackwells in Worcester in the 19th century, and I know it wasn't the one in the parish of Tredington. I am unfamiliar with the West Midlands - does anyone know in which parish the other Blackwell was located? It wasn't a parish in its own right. James was born about 1821, and I would like to locate the parish registers to research parents and siblings. Incidentally, his birthplace is given as Netherton in the 1861 census, and for some reason as Stratford-on-Avon in the 1871 census, but I am sticking with Blackwell for the moment. Any help and advice appreciated. Ruth Harris

Dear Gus and Pete, Thanks for the info regarding the Worcester History Centre and the data obtainable from baptismal registers. My brick wall stands and the search goes on. ~ Warm regards, Juraj

Hi Jean, A great deal will depend on what you want to look at as to which is your best way to travel... For Parish Registers, Wills, Censuses, Newspapers etc are held at the History Centre, in the middle of the town and handy for both bus and train (if you go to Foregate Street rather than Shrub Hill Station). Original Documents etc are held at the "Real" Records Office, on the edge of town, and close to Junction 7 of the M5 - and NOT (all that) good for access by bus, although there IS a service. As for Birmingham-Worcester by bus or train, there'd probably be very little in it in terms of Arrival Time. You might FEEL you're getting somewhere in the bus - but it's s-l-o-w. HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: <jean.kitchin@tesco.net> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:34 AM Subject: [WOR] Getting to Worcester Records Office > Hi > > Please can anyone help me out. I am planning to visit the records office some time in the near future. I have looked at directions and it will take me 3 hours each way to drive. I would prefer to travel by train which takes around the same time. However, the most direct route takes me from Preston to Birmingham NSt and then on to Worcester but the waiting time in Birmingham, between arrival and departure is almost 1 hour. Please does anyone know if there is a bus between Birmingham N St and Worcs which will be better? > > Many thanks > > Jean > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > >

150 Northwich St Claines William, age 48, still a Fly Proprietor, b.Claines Jane, age 49, b.Worcester Nobody else in the household Roger

Hi Please can anyone help me out. I am planning to visit the records office some time in the near future. I have looked at directions and it will take me 3 hours each way to drive. I would prefer to travel by train which takes around the same time. However, the most direct route takes me from Preston to Birmingham NSt and then on to Worcester but the waiting time in Birmingham, between arrival and departure is almost 1 hour. Please does anyone know if there is a bus between Birmingham N St and Worcs which will be better? Many thanks Jean

Janice I have checked Billings 1855 and Kelly's 1860 but cannot find HUGHES listed under Carriers in the Wordsley Area. Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Brian & Janice Hughes [mailto:brianhughes@lineone.net] Sent: Sunday, 28 August 2005 12:47 a.m. To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WOR] Wordsley Many thanks to Steve, Vivien, and Chris for their replies, this is such a helpful list. Another request please. If anyone has access to trade directories that would cover Wordsley for the period 1852 - 1863 could they please look and see if a Henry HUGHES is listed as a Canal Boat Owner/Carrier. His occupation is given as Carrier on the 1861 Census. Many thanks Janice ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== FreeREG Project: parish register database http://freereg.rootsweb.com UK Census on-line http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

H Ian > > Yes Gus, my comment above was written after, noticing that the > message thread was moving towards Claines village and Droitwich. I > attempted to move it back towards Worcester where the most work for > a Waterman was. Living in The Tything, Worcester sounds good to > me. > Claines never really had a 'village' - it was a collection of settlements called 'Tythings' without any sort of 'centre' - and the Tything of Whistones was administratively somewhat separate from the rest of the Parish. It'd be a goodish area for watermen to live - although the one's father looks to've been the 1841-equivalent of a mini-cab driver! Were you and your son at WorcHistCent last Monday afternoon? At a reader fairly close to the Parish Register and Wills films cabinets? (I was on the 'junction' where the passages between the readers cross...) Gus

On 27 Aug 2005 at 7:41, John Tysoe wrote: > Granted it was a *little* light on Docks and Quays, but North Quay on the > Severn was within 100 yards of Claines' Boundary, and half of Lowesmoor > Basin and Wharf on the W&B was within it. Yes Gus, my comment above was written after, noticing that the message thread was moving towards Claines village and Droitwich. I attempted to move it back towards Worcester where the most work for a Waterman was. Living in The Tything, Worcester sounds good to me. > The chances would seem quite high that we've passed one another at > WorcHistCent... I'm there at least one afternoon (although the days vary) > every week! I have been there three times in the last few weeks with my 10-year old son in tow. Didn't think he would enjoy it, but he was still working away as the centre closed. Hopefully I might manage one more day there on the first Monday in September before I am back to work. Best Regards, Ian Murray ex: City of Worcester now: Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire ---------------------------------------------- Researching: (Worcestershire): ATKINS; BELL; COPE; DARKE; EATON-MULLINS; WARMAN. with small links to ALLARD, BATEMAN, EVANS, JEFF (Cumberland): BELL. (Hampshire): ADAMS, Martha. (Manchester/Southport): CHAPMAN; HUGHES; KAY. (Eastbourne): KAY. (Western Scotland - including Isles of Arran and Bute): BOYLE; CAMPBELL; CUMMINGS; DOLLAR; JOHNSTONE; KAY; KING; LYNDSAY; McLEAN; McMILLAN; MURRAY; WILSON. (Australia): MURRAY (South Africa): VAN AARDT ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail has been virus checked using Symantec Norton AntiVirus -----------------------------------------------------------------------

On 26 Aug 2005 at 20:10, Juraj Tkac wrote: > A question from the US. This "WorcHistCent" you speak of visiting for the > purpose of checking various registers, would there be a register for > births occurring on "Stafford Street, Dudley" in 1862 ? The local history centre at Worcester contains loads of very useful local archives including microfilm photos of the census, wills, newspapers and local books, photographs and trade directories. With regard to your request they have microfilm of the areas parish registers (this being photographs of each page of the parish registers for baptisms, marriages and burials as written at the time by the priest). In 1862 the chances are, that a baptism record will state: date of baptism; forename(s) of child; parents (both) forenames and surname; where they live (usually an area or road at most), and father's occupation. In addition, occasionally, the priest just might write something useful in the margin, such as an age if not an infant, or then perhaps he might no bother. The order of this record being: the date of baptism. So to find a person, one has to know the church that the parents went to (not necessarily the one nearest to where they lived, and not necessarily a church of England church) and roughly when they were baptised (which might not be anywhere near their date of birth). To find where parents are born, the best source will be the national census which will give a rough idea and the parents marriage record. Best Regards, Ian Murray ex: City of Worcester now: Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire ---------------------------------------------- Researching: (Worcestershire): ATKINS; BELL; COPE; DARKE; EATON-MULLINS; WARMAN. with small links to ALLARD, BATEMAN, EVANS, JEFF (Cumberland): BELL. (Hampshire): ADAMS, Martha. (Manchester/Southport): CHAPMAN; HUGHES; KAY. (Eastbourne): KAY. (Western Scotland - including Isles of Arran and Bute): BOYLE; CAMPBELL; CUMMINGS; DOLLAR; JOHNSTONE; KAY; KING; LYNDSAY; McLEAN; McMILLAN; MURRAY; WILSON. (Australia): MURRAY (South Africa): VAN AARDT ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail has been virus checked using Symantec Norton AntiVirus -----------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Sally, Halesowen has not been transcribed yet, as you say only Cradley, Lutley, Hayley Green Warley. I have quite a bit on the Franklins, what did you need? Best Wishes from Linda.

Thanks Joan But Henry was a coalminer in 1901. Hery Walter that is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Rooney" <mc.rooney@sympatico.ca> To: "Janet Hope" <janethope1@cogeco.ca>; <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] Humphries Henry Walter, > Hi Janet, > > Could this be Henry in 1901? --Same profession as his father. > > Henry Humphries 37 Worcestershire Stoke Prior Birmingham > Birmingham > Bricklayers & General Labourer > > Good Hunting, > Joan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Hope" <janethope1@cogeco.ca> > To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 4:13 PM > Subject: [WOR] Humphries Henry Walter, > > >> Hi >> I wonder if anyone can help me I need someone to check the 1871 census to > see if there is a Henry Walter Humphries born around 1867, his father's > name > was Henry too and was possible a brick layer. >> I have been able to find him on the 1891, and 1881. But after that no > luck., >> So any help would be appreciated, >> >> Thanks >> >> Jan in Canada. >> >> >> ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== >> FreeREG Project: parish register database >> http://freereg.rootsweb.com >> >> UK Census on-line >> http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ >> >

William and Jane, both aged 25 (remember the 1841 census reduces ages to the nearest 5 yrs so they could be anywhere between 25 and 29 yrs old), plus Charles age 2. No Michael. All born in the same county and living in Tything which is part of Claines. Williams occupation recorded as a Fly Proprietor, whatever that is. There is an indexed 1841 census of Worcestershire (and a few other counties)on the British Origins web site with very good images, but it costs an arm and a leg to subscribe to it (which I have because I have heaps of ancestors in Worcester). I hear Ancestry may have indexed the 1841 and 1851 census by next year. Roger Jackson

Hi Janet, Could this be Henry in 1901? --Same profession as his father. Henry Humphries 37 Worcestershire Stoke Prior Birmingham Birmingham Bricklayers & General Labourer Good Hunting, Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Hope" <janethope1@cogeco.ca> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: [WOR] Humphries Henry Walter, > Hi > I wonder if anyone can help me I need someone to check the 1871 census to see if there is a Henry Walter Humphries born around 1867, his father's name was Henry too and was possible a brick layer. > I have been able to find him on the 1891, and 1881. But after that no luck., > So any help would be appreciated, > > Thanks > > Jan in Canada. > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ >

Many thanks to Steve, Vivien, and Chris for their replies, this is such a helpful list. Another request please. If anyone has access to trade directories that would cover Wordsley for the period 1852 - 1863 could they please look and see if a Henry HUGHES is listed as a Canal Boat Owner/Carrier. His occupation is given as Carrier on the 1861 Census. Many thanks Janice

Image for 1841 Charles William Morris with parents William and Jane Morris at Claines sent off list. Lynn Paterson researching WYER Shropshire, Worcestershire, Herefordshire >In my search for Charles William MORRIS, I have found a baptism in the IGI >for someone of that name 27 Jan 1839, in Claines. The date fits. He may >or may not be my man. Parents William & Jane. Please could someone with >access to the 1841 census index for Claines, Worcs see if a two year old >Charles William MORRIS is there? (Possibly with a 3 year old brother >Michael Joseph MORRIS - though I don't know for sure that these two were >brothers). >Many thanks again. I hope there is an index for 1841. >Best regards, Ruth