Good afternoon, Can anyone help me with the 1851 census for Droitwich I am looking for a direct descendant, 4xGrtGrandfather's called Richard Evans B: abt 1818 in St Peters, Worcester married to Harriett (nee James) 22nd August 1842. In 1846 he was a Policeman living in Hill End, Droitwich (Ref: Sons birth cert.) I would like to try and find out more about when he was a policeman. I believe they spent most of their married lives in the parish of Claines. Any help would be appreciated. Many thanks Tracey

Hi Carole on further investigation you do need the marriage/birth certificate details as there is a William born in 1858 and 1861 in Ombersley. How do you know you have the right couple in the 1901 census for Walkers Heath Wythall? Mike Fisher Wythall,WOR One-Place Genealogical Study http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wythallindex/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "JA-MC" <bradygroup@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:59 PM Subject: [WOR] Fox > Be gentle with me 'cos I'm new to this list. > > Is anyone researching the Fox family i.e. William b. circa 1858 Ombersley, > Worcs. Married to Ann b. circa 1854. b. Solihull. > In 1891 William and Ann are living in Aston with Edith Smith a niece aged > 10 months and James Oliver a nephew aged 24. James was also born > Ombersley. > > In 1881 there is a William Fox aged 20 b.Ombersley living with his mother > Emma aged 60 and his brother Herbert aged 18. The address is Comhampton, > Ombersley. I have no way of knowing if this is the right William, it's > just a guess. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Carole > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi all the first thing you need is a marriage certificate or a view of the parish register for the marriage of William and Ann. On this it will give the father of William and the fathers occupation, from that you need his birth certificate with the correct father and this will give the name of the mother with her maiden name. You then look for the parents marriage in the same way if the events took place after 1st July 1837. You can then compare this information to all censuses. Mike Fisher in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "JA-MC" <bradygroup@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:59 PM Subject: [WOR] Fox > Be gentle with me 'cos I'm new to this list. > > Is anyone researching the Fox family i.e. William b. circa 1858 Ombersley, > Worcs. Married to Ann b. circa 1854. b. Solihull. > In 1891 William and Ann are living in Aston with Edith Smith a niece aged > 10 months and James Oliver a nephew aged 24. James was also born > Ombersley. > > In 1881 there is a William Fox aged 20 b.Ombersley living with his mother > Emma aged 60 and his brother Herbert aged 18. The address is Comhampton, > Ombersley. I have no way of knowing if this is the right William, it's > just a guess. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Carole > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ >

Be gentle with me 'cos I'm new to this list. Is anyone researching the Fox family i.e. William b. circa 1858 Ombersley, Worcs. Married to Ann b. circa 1854. b. Solihull. In 1891 William and Ann are living in Aston with Edith Smith a niece aged 10 months and James Oliver a nephew aged 24. James was also born Ombersley. In 1881 there is a William Fox aged 20 b.Ombersley living with his mother Emma aged 60 and his brother Herbert aged 18. The address is Comhampton, Ombersley. I have no way of knowing if this is the right William, it's just a guess. Any help would be appreciated. Carole

Hi Diana, I found 2 JAMES TAYLOR gardeners on the 1841 census aged 40-60, thus: County WORCESTERSHIRE Superintendent Registrar's District UPTON UPON SEVERN Registrar's District KEMPSEY Enumeration District No 4 Parish KEMPSEY Place GREENS Household Number 1857 JAMES TAYLOR 45 Gardener (All born in County) JANE TAYLOR 45 MARY TAYLOR 15 HANNAH TAYLOR 8 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- County WORCESTERSHIRE Superintendent Registrar's District PERSHORE Registrar's District UPTON SNODSBURY Enumeration District No 5 Parish SPETCHLEY Place GARDEN COTTAGE Household Number 7 JAMES TAYLOR 45 Gardener (All born in County) SUSANAH TAYLOR 40 JOSEPH TAYLOR 15 MARY TAYLOR 15 AGNES TAYLOR 14 BARBARA TAYLOR 11 GEORGE TAYLOR 6 FRANCIS TAYLOR 4 AUGUSTIN TAYLOR 1 Previous household ELIZABETH TAYLOR 15 Female Servant (Y) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I saw on the 1861 census that MIRIAM U. TAYLOR b.Tamworth Staffordshire was a widower living at Birmimgham all saints and that her eldest child JAMES was born in Warwickshire, however I could not find a JAMES TAYLOR gardener in Warwickshire. Trouble is looking on the 1841 census THOMAS TAYLOR may well have been away from home at that time. What you need really is to find him in Warwickshire on the 1851 census but unfortunately this is the only one I haven't got, the Warwickshire family history site I'm sure does free look-ups. All the best Lynn Paterson researching WYER/WYRE/WIRE Worc. Shrop. Warks. Heref.

Hi All, I am looking for a William Kendrick who was born in the Union Work House, Upton on Severn, Worcester. His mother was Julia Kendrick ms Lawrence. The last information I have on him is in 1895 when he was a witness at his mother's death in Berrow, Worcester. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Gwen Gray USA

Greetings, Would appreciate hearing from anyone who has any LOUDs in their families. I have extensive information on LOUDs in Warwickshire and am wondering if there are connections to LOUDs who are found in Worcestershire. Anne in Aurora IL

Hello, can anybody help me. My GT GT Grandfather was Thomas TAYLOR a publican, he married Miriam Ursula SAWREY in 1847. I am trying to find out 1. when he was born 2. where he was born. His fathers name was James TAYLOR a gardener, I believe he came from Worchestershire or Warwickshire. I would be very grateful if anybody can help me on this. Many thanks Diana Boulton in New Zealand

Jacquie Found this entry in the WOR 1851 Census HO107/2044 Folio 375 District Evesham Township Badsey Sceh. 117 Heath Pool KNIGHT James Head M 37 Waggoner /Born Badsey/WOR Anne Wife M 41 Field Woman Born Bretforton/WOR George Son U 11 Plougboy " " Charles " U 7 " " Harriet Dau U 4 Scholar " " Mary Anne " U 6mths " " Happy Hunting Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Jacquie Hartwright [mailto:jachartwright@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:17 a.m. To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WOR] John Knight 1809-1880. 1851/1861 census look-up request Hello I am looking for John Knight (born circa 1809 died 11 February 1880 Penzance, Cornwall) who married Ann Perrins from Hanley Castle, Worcs I would like to know where he was born and his occupation. I would be very grateful if SKS could find him and his family in the 1851 and 1861 census The 1851 census may show him in the Hanley Castle, or Salwarpe area of Worcestershire with wife Ann aged about 41 born Hanley Castle son William John aged about 19 daughter Mary Ann aged 17 bapt Salwarpe daughter Emma aged 15 daughter Eliza Ann aged 9 son Edward Henry - no information John's wife Ann died in 1859 at The Lodge, Hanley Castle Daughters Mary Ann and Emma Mary married Worcestershire men at St David's, Exeter, Devon in 1858 and 1859 respectively. I am trying to find out if John was living in Worcs or Devon on the 1861 census John would be aged about 52 possibly with second wife (Hannah ?) and maybe son William John aged 29 who died in Hanley Castle in 1869). Any information would be very much appreciated Regards Jacquie ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== For Worcestershire information see http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WOR/ UK Census on-line http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

Hello I am looking for John Knight (born circa 1809 died 11 February 1880 Penzance, Cornwall) who married Ann Perrins from Hanley Castle, Worcs I would like to know where he was born and his occupation. I would be very grateful if SKS could find him and his family in the 1851 and 1861 census The 1851 census may show him in the Hanley Castle, or Salwarpe area of Worcestershire with wife Ann aged about 41 born Hanley Castle son William John aged about 19 daughter Mary Ann aged 17 bapt Salwarpe daughter Emma aged 15 daughter Eliza Ann aged 9 son Edward Henry - no information John’s wife Ann died in 1859 at The Lodge, Hanley Castle Daughters Mary Ann and Emma Mary married Worcestershire men at St David’s, Exeter, Devon in 1858 and 1859 respectively. I am trying to find out if John was living in Worcs or Devon on the 1861 census John would be aged about 52 possibly with second wife (Hannah ?) and maybe son William John aged 29 who died in Hanley Castle in 1869). Any information would be very much appreciated Regards Jacquie

Hi Tracey, I'm sure you'll get the help you need. Could you give full names, places, ages siblings, etc? There are a lot of families out there and the spellings vary. Please try our new website, aimed at our members, but open for all to look at. -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman Bromsgrove BMSGH http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk

Tracey, Welcome to the list. We need a lot more information to be able to help you, especially with such common names. The 1841 census is not indexed and we have to go through all the hand written pages. So the absolute minimum needed is rough age and first names, and any other information you have - Bromsgrove is 'huge'. Nuala ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevandtracey" <520062583967@t-online.de> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [WOR] Introducing myself ! > Hello listers, > > > > Currently researching the following names: > > > > EVANS - Redditch, Balsall Heath > > BAYLISS - Redditch, Balsall Heath, Bromsgrove > > HARRIS - Redditch > > > > Interested in any information on the above, particularly stuck on the > 1851/1841 census, can anyone out there do look ups? > > > > Currently gathering material on the Bromsgrove workhouse too, any help > appreciated. > > > > Regards > > > > Tracey > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > >

Hello listers, Currently researching the following names: EVANS - Redditch, Balsall Heath BAYLISS - Redditch, Balsall Heath, Bromsgrove HARRIS - Redditch Interested in any information on the above, particularly stuck on the 1851/1841 census, can anyone out there do look ups? Currently gathering material on the Bromsgrove workhouse too, any help appreciated. Regards Tracey

I am looking for anyone researching the family of Joseph Lowe in Stourport. In the 1841 census Joseph is 51 and his occupation is hairdresser. His wife Hannah and she is 55 and her occupation is straw bonnet maker. Their children are Lucy age 20, Caroline age 17, and Harriet age 15. Caroline married a Harrison - I've been told his name was Richard but I have not been able to confirm that yet, and after she was widowed she later married George Masters Iliff. Liz Harrison

Just to let you all know that I have added 40 more graves for Eldersfield in the last couple of days. Good Hunting Sally www.parishmouse.com

Hi I was wonder whether there is any connection with my Timmins, my gr.grandfather was a Benjamin Timmin, who lived at 9Crosswell Road,Olbury, in May 1896. he was a fret-lead glaizer. His wife's namewas Adah, formerly Barron. Any help would be appreciated. Jan In Canada.

######### STOP PRESS ####### Our website is now up and running Please visit us at http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ *BMSGH* members wishing to have their name interests listed should send their details to: Mike Yegwart at mike.yegwart@btinternet.com Please supply the following: *Your name and email address, & surname interests for each area* N.B. Please be aware that we all have other commitments, so updates may not happen immediately. We will, however, do our best. For those local to BROMSGROVE there are regular monthly meetings: ********************************************* This month, on Tuesday the 13th September* * * Keith Benton presents "BBC History online "* ********************************************* ###~~~###~~~###~~~###~~~###~~~###~~~### Our bookstall will be there, as usual. ###~~~###~~~###~~~###~~~###~~~###~~~### -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman Bromsgrove BMSGH http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk

######### STOP PRESS ####### Our website is now up and running Please visit us at http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ *BMSGH* members wishing to have their name interests listed should send their details to: Mike Yegwart at bromshistorygene@btinternet.com Please supply the following: *Your name and email address, & surname interests for each area* N.B. Please be aware that we all have other commitments, so updates may not happen immediately. We will, however, do our best. For those local to BROMSGROVE there are regular monthly meetings: ********************************************* This month, on Tuesday the 13th September* * * Keith Benton presents "BBC History online "* ********************************************* ###~~~###~~~###~~~###~~~###~~~###~~~### Our bookstall will be there, as usual. ###~~~###~~~###~~~###~~~###~~~###~~~### -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman Bromsgrove BMSGH http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk

Sorry WOR List, The Spittle message was intended to go out only to Gus and not tie up the List. My apologies. ~Juraj

Dear Gus, Hello! It's me, Juraj, to report that I was mistaken in claiming a church on top of Dudley Hill with a tunnel connection to a pub below. I looked through my papers and found that the hill is in Wednesbury and the church was St Bart's. There was indeed a tunnel, as claimed by one Dave Ogden of the Black Country List. The pub was the Blue Ball at Hall End, Wednesbury, aka Spittles. He reports in an old message via the List: "The Spittles owned or ran a number of pubs / inns / alehouses in the Wednesbury / Tipton area, probably the most famous being the Blue Ball at Hall End aka Spittles, by which name it is still known. This pub has many tales behind it! i.e., the bellringers at St Barts, which is situated at the top of the hill above Spittles, rang the congregation into church, then decamped down a tunnel which came out behind the pub. There they "had a few", but always made it back to the church to ring out the congregation. I was told this tale many times by the locals and never really believed it, until one day I was told that the tunnel still exists, and it does! It's there behind the rose bushes on Ethelfleda place, immediately below St Barts Bell Tower. There's more to these stories than meets the eye!" Dave then went on to state that Spittles also had another claim to fame, and that's the Wedgebury Cocking, which you can read for yourself at this web page: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/ENG-BLACK-COUNTRY/2000-09/0968029910 . Being a history man I'm sure you'll enjoy the old language and references. Thanks for correcting me in regards to Tipton and Dudley. Warm regards, JURAJ