Hi Sheila, I couldn't find Elizabeth on the Worcs 1851 census. I checked the whole census for people born in Wales but there was no Elizabeth Nicholl. Also tried variants (Nichol, Nicholls, etc). Regards from Malcolm Platt-Grigg. Participant in Grigg DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/ Researching: GRIGG Halesowen, Harborne, Birmingham PLATT Wednesbury, Darlaston http://www.platt-grigg.accessgenealogy.com/ http://uk-transcriptions.accessgenealogy.com

Hi Kathy Here's the link I think you need for Frederick BUNN's baptism - in Berrow, Worcs. Christened 21st January 1827 Frederick BUNN. Parents George and Letitia. (There are numerous other children before this baptism - I didn't check for any more after Frederick). http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wragg44/berrow/berrowbapt7.html Had already sent this message once, but doesn't seem to have gone through. Looks as if Malcolm has found him for you on the 1851 census. Barbara

Hi Lis Would seem to be Robert Steynor. See http://droitwich.co.uk/robert-steynor.htm for other references try the Access to Archives website www.a2a.org.uk Regards Jacquie

HelloEverybody, Is there SKS with access to the 1851 census for Worcestershire please? I'm looking for FREDERICK BUNN b 1823 BERROW Worcs. or LEDBURY Herefordshire ( depending on which census you believe) who is a carpenter on the 1861 to1901 censuses. I have information that his family used St Clements or All Saints Worcester for their Baptisms and Marriages. I'm afraid that I don't have his parents names. Thanks for any help Kathy BUNN,MERRICK

Dear all, A couple of people (Sarah, Carolyn) have written to me about John Cooksey's book "Brickyards of the Black Country - A Forgotten Industry, Refractories" published in 2003. It is very much about Stourbridge, and also Cradley. It is not available from commercial bookshops as far as I am aware. It can be obtained from John himself, and David has pointed us all to http://www.harrisandpearson.info/brickmanuf2.htm where it is mentioned and this link gives John's home phone number. Alternatively, I know that it is obtainable from Cradley branch Library in Colley Lane, telephone 01384 812885; details of opening hours etc. are on Dudley Council's web site at http://www.dudley.gov.uk/leisure-and-culture/libraries/find-a-library and select Cradley/More info. Also, it may be available for sale from Coseley Archives who can be emailed at archives.centre@dudley.gov.uk I hope this helps. Nigel Brown

Hi Noeline, This may interest you, I looked to see if there were any other HURDMAN'S in Claines 1841 and sure enough there was one more, but in the County Gaol. 1841 HURDMAN JAMES M 25 Ag. LAB (BORN IN COUNTY) COUNTY GAOL AND HOUSE OF CORRECTION WORCESTER CLAINES WORCESTERSHIRE There is another family also in Claines but spelled HARDMAN. 1841 JOSEPH HARDMAN 39 BLACKSMITH (N) ANN HARDMAN 38 (N) ELIZABETH 14 (Y) JOSEPH 7 (Y) JAMES 5 (Y) WILLIAM 4 (Y) ELIZA 2 (Y) Lynn Paterson Researching WYER/WYRE

Hi Noeline, I hope this is the breakthrough you were looking for right place, right name, I am assuming that she is with her mother and father and aunt. If you have any trouble viewing the original image let me know. County WORCESTERSHIRE Superintendent Registrar's District WORCESTER Registrar's District NORTH WORCESTER Enumeration District No 2 Parish CLAINES City WORCESTER Township WHISTONES Place TYTHING Household Number 1456 MARY HURDMAN 55 IND. (N0) RICH. HURDMAN 55 SHOPKEEPER (Y) SARAH HURDMAN 55 (Y) SUSAN HURDMAN 24 (Y) Happy Hunting All the best Lynn Paterson researching WYER/WYRE

Hi all, I know I have been on this list before but this family is really getting to me as I can't seem to find anything to do with this family other than this. When a member of the family was asked a question where was she Born she said Dunnington, Wars. Now I take it this could also have been WORCS. It all depends how it was how it was said. And seeing it was years ago I am trying both areas like before hoping someone out there might have abit of info. Susan HURDMAN, Born abt 1815-1825 was in Jail for stealing Gloves. The jail was in Worcester. She also had a Son out of wedlock in 1846 and he was 4yrs at the time while she was in jail. This child was in a workhouse in the 1851 census and was 4yrs old at the time when she was in Jail. His name was Frederick HURDMAN, Born 1846 , Claines Twything, Worcester.It is on the Mormans IGI. Susan has alo written down her Father was John HURDMAN, Labourer. I cant find any info regarding this or even her Birth,Christn etc. I was wondering if the 1841 census would help. Would anyone have that?I am getting desperate as I have been looking for this family for along time. There must be some other info than what I have. Susan Married Thomas MAYERS (Meyers) in Norfolk after she came out of Jail which she got 12 months hard labour. They both Immigrated to New Zealand. If anyone here could help me I would be so grateful as i just can't get anywhere with this at all???? Thanks, Noeline in Brisbane

Hi Noeline, the 1841 Census is not indexed, it would mean searching hundreds of images. I did have a look at the 1851 Census which is Indexed, there were a few Hurdman families around Evesham and Droitwich, and a John born 1814, Farm Labourer at Martley. I would try and find Susan on all Census entries, that should give you some clues as to where she was actually born. Then it is a case of searching the Parish Records, unless you can track down any family Wills. Hope this helps. Best Wishes from Linda.

Good evening listers I am new to this list and wonder if SKS could help me. I have put my family research on the back burner to try and help my mother-in-law's brother with his family research. Their family name is STEYNOR which I believe is quite an unusual spelling. There is a STEYNOR AVENUE in DRIOTWICH and I should be very grateful if anyone could let me know who the Avenue was named after. Many thanks Lis from Salisbury UK mainly researching: Hutt, Emberson, Feeney, Lerch, Batten, Steynor, Almeroth, Wrede.

Good Evening Seeking ELIZABETH NICHOLL in 1841 or 1851 census in KIDDERMINSTER she was born at NEWCASTLE BRIDGEND S.WALES. in 1790. Her husband was JOHN NICHOLL possibly born Kidderminster he was a valet or house servant Thank you Sheila

Hi I am new to the list and am looking for any information on the following names in the Redditch area CROW, CROWE, BASKETT, PRATT Most of the family were employed at Needle works in the area Claire

Hi All I am forwarding the below from another list as it may be of interest to listers Mike Fisher Wythall,WOR One-Place Genealogical Study http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wythallindex/index.htm Just in case you haven't heard The English and Welsh 100-year census closure rule was abolished by Parliament in 2000, when it passed the Freedom of Information Act. From 1st January 2005, family historians from anywhere in the world can apply for Freedom of Information Act copies of the 1911 or 1921 census for England & Wales. The facts have been kept a closely guarded government secret for 5 years. To find out whether you or your MP have been conned by ministers since 2000, just look for a mention of Lord Chancellor's Instrument No.12 (1966) in any official letter on the 1911 Census that you have received. If the letter doesn't mention the abolition of the 100-year census closure period, you're probably the victim of government deception. For FREE advice on getting your own Freedom of Information Act copy of the 1911 Census, visit our Home Page. Denis McCready Director The UK Centre for Census Access Studies Solihull, England Home Page: http://home.clara.net/denis.mccready/index.htm Email: denis.mccready@clara.co.uk <mailto:denis.mccready@clara.co.uk> Fax: +44 (0)870 912 1254 Unfortunately there are malicious rumours in circulation that this story is not true. Don't believe any of them. Before we supply advice, we would be grateful if you would provide your full name and postal address, the name of your MP or Senator or Representative and a sentence that we could publish about this 5-year old government census secret. We won't disclose your personal details to anyone.

Hello John, You might have a minor problem here - for The Blockhouse was an Extra-Parochial Area... "Old" St Paul's church - which covered it - wasn't consecrated until 1845. Where did you get the information? Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: john richardson <jjminfiek@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 1:06 PM Subject: [WOR] BURIAL > Hello list. > > I wonder if SKS is visiting the History centre over the coming weeks, and has a few minutes to look up the details ( If there are any more!)on a burial for me. > > MARY RICHARDSON AGED 56 1 DECEMBER 1833 BLOCKHOUSE. > > Many thanks > > John Richardson > Eaton Socon > Cambs > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > >

Hello list. I wonder if SKS is visiting the History centre over the coming weeks, and has a few minutes to look up the details ( If there are any more!)on a burial for me. MARY RICHARDSON AGED 56 1 DECEMBER 1833 BLOCKHOUSE. Many thanks John Richardson Eaton Socon Cambs

Thanks to everyone who so kindly answered my request. Y'all are sure friendly folks! Sarah in Texas

Hello Julie, This looks like him in 1871.... 1871 Census - St John Worcestershire Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship George Albert Turley abt 1840 Worcester, Worcestershire, England Head Georgina Turley abt 1843 Worcester, Worcestershire, England Wife Mary Ann Turley abt 1869 Worcester, Worcestershire, England Daughter Georgina Turley abt 1870 Worcester, Worcestershire, England Daughter Mary Ann Curtis abt 1825 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Visitor Let me know if you would like the image. Best regards, John Kane Sapcote, Leics. ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie insull" <jinsull789@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 8:16 PM Subject: [WOR] 1861/71 look up please > hi list > can some kind person help with a census look up either 1861 or 1871 > im looking for a GEORGE A TURLEY born about 1841 ,st clements may be a > draper and may have wife georgina in 1871 > best wishes > julie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.0/103 - Release Date: 15/09/2005

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"Carolyn Perkes" > >> My friend John Cooksey of Cradley, about 3 miles from Stourbridge, > published >> his book "Brickyards of the Black Country - A Forgotten Industry, >> Refractories" in 2003. He is the brick industry expert of the Black > Country >> Society's Industrial Archaeology Group, and he spent 17 years working in > the >> refractory (firebrick) industry. I can only describe the book as the >> definitive work on the subject and of course a large part of it is about >> Stourbridge. > Certainly of interest to me. Where can one get this book? It is mentioned on http://www.harrisandpearson.info/brickmanuf2.htm David.

Hi, Stourbridge clay was used for crucible pots in the glassmaking trade. Adrian -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.0/103 - Release Date: 15/09/2005