Dear all Below are the details of my family in 1861. They appear to be running a school, in Ripple, Upton upon Severn. I find this really bizarre, as to how this came about. Does anyone know anything about this school? (I use school in a rather fluid sense of the word). Where could I find info? Anyone have comments on the size? Were any of your ancestors pupils, and if so, what kind of families did they come from to send their children here? I'm curious .... Alison BRYAN, Sarah Head Widow F 68 Ladies Seminary? Severn Stoke Worcestershire BRYAN, Elizth Daughter Unmarried F 31 Governess St Johns Worcestershire BRYAN, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 28 Governess St Johns Worcestershire COMB, Anne Pupil Unmarried F 15 Scholar Upton On Severn Worcestershire SMITH, Sarah Ann Pupil Unmarried F 13 Scholar Mathon Herefordshire REDDING, Sarah Eliza Pupil Unmarried F 11 Scholar Ripple Worcestershire REDDING, Catherine W Pupil Unmarried F 11 Scholar Ripple Worcestershire LEE, Frances M Pupil Unmarried F 11 Scholar Northampton Northamptonshire LANE, Sarah Anne Pupil Unmarried F 7 Scholar Ripple Worcestershire LANE, Mary Pupil Unmarried F 6 Scholar Ripple Worcestershire COOMBE, Fanny Pupil Unmarried F 6 Scholar Upton On Severn Worcestershire LEE, Chas H Pupil Unmarried M 9 Scholar Wolverhampton Staffordshire LEE, Fras H Pupil Unmarried M 9 Scholar Queenhill Worcestershire BRID, John Boy M 17 Gardener & Servant Ripple Worcestershire RG number: RG09 Piece: 2099 Folio: 101 Page: 7 Registration District: Upton-on-severn Sub District: 3 Kempsey Enumeration District: 10 Parish: Ripple Address: Holly Green, Ripple

My great grandfather's first wife was living/staying with her mother before her marriage in 1851. She was listed as being a "servant out of place". Could someone enlighten me please as to what this means, on leave or out of a job? Vivien Palmer

Hallo Teresa Cromwell Lane is in Bartley Green which is adjacent to Northfield. Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa Boyce" <bntboyce@shaw.ca> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 7:16 PM Subject: [WOR] Cromwell Lane > Hello List: > > I have found Thomas Walker age 43 on the 1881 census in Northfield > Worcestershire. He gives his place of birth as Cromwell Lane, > Worcestershire. Can anyone tell me where this is/was? > > Teresa in Canada > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > >

Hi Daryl First could you please put a subject line. In the Wythall One place Genealogical study a Samuel FORRESTER marries a Elizabeth GREVES 28 Jul 1804 in Aston Juxta Birmingham and they have two children christened in Kingswood Unitarian Meeting House, Eleanor born 30 Nov 1804 bap 28 Dec 1804, Ann born 3 Jan 1806 bap 26 Jan 1806. The FORRESTER appear to have been on the Warwickshire Worcestershire boarder. Hope this may be of some assistance. Mike Fisher Wythall,WOR One-Place Genealogical Study http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wythallindex/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dary1j766@aol.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: [WOR] (no subject) > Hello to you all, > I am descended from a family called Forrester. Samuel Forrester, his > wife, > Mary (Paling), and five sons John, Henry, Samuel, William, and Edward > were > living at 21, Beoley Street, Redditch at the time of the 1851 census. > Samuel Forrester, (senior), was born in Tanworth, Warwickshire, c1810. > I take this to be Tanworth-In-Arden, Warwickshire, rather than Tamworth, > which in any case happens to be in Staffordshire. > I can find no relevant baptism entry in a bound volume of the > Tanworth-In-Arden baptism register, held at Birmingham library, and this > does > hinder my progress into my Forrester line. Incidentally, nothing in the > Tamworth, Staffordshire baptism register either. > Samuel Forrester and Mary Paling married in 1831, before civil > registration. > I would like to know if anyone has any thoughts on how I could progress > with > my Forrester (or Paling) lines, or if anyone has further information on > "my" > > Forresters? > Thanks in anticipation, > Daryl Jones, Warwickshire. > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ >

Gus I support what you say about Ray Friend's Transcription and Indexing . I have only ever found 2 mistakes, in my family records, on 1851 WOR. One she was able to change the other have told the now owners of the Data base, about it, and they will if sufficent located, create one with these errors Amended. So people, tell S & N if you are working from their CD of Audrey's Friend's work, if you find a mistake - BUT include with your advice a copy of the original page from the census., so they can make their own judgement as to whether an error has occurred. I now own a scanned version of 1851 WOR Census from www.mycensuses.com Both errors, I found , were understandable - the original that Audrey had been working from, had writing that was barely legible. I knew what the scrawl was meant to indicate - she didn't !!!! Helen Downunder A Transcriber for FreeCens -FreeReg and FreeBMD -----Original Message----- From: John Tysoe [mailto:gtysoe@jtysoe.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:37 p.m. To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WOR] Availability of 1841 and 1851 census for Worcestershire Hello Emily, Are you referring to the 1841 or 1851? Ray Friend, the Indexer of the (now S&N) 1851, was one of the most meticulous I've ever come across, and I'd back her version aginst all comers... But ALL Transcriptions will contain *some* errors (even hers, even up to her death she was still correcting them when she was told of any) - and that includes the very schedules we rely on... THEY were copied by the Enumerator from the Householders' Forms, and so are themselves only Secondary Documents ! Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: Emily Kearns <emily.kearns@st-hildas.oxford.ac.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:07 AM Subject: RE: [WOR] Availability of 1841 and 1851 census for Worcestershire > But be warned, the transcription is not 100% reliable. I was thrown off the > scent for quite a long time because 'Lucy Hill' in the original was wrongly > trancribed as 'Mary Hill'. > > Emily > > At 22:11 25/09/2005, Mal Platt-Grigg wrote: > >G'day Nick, > >The Worcs 1851 is available from S&N Genealogy Supplies at > >http://www.genealogysupplies.com/ . It's transcribed, indexed & fully > >searchable, a great resource. > >I've had mine for about 3 years & it's been invaluable. > >Regards from Malcolm Platt-Grigg. > >Participant in Grigg DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/ > >Researching: GRIGG Halesowen, Harborne, Birmingham > > PLATT Wednesbury, Darlaston > >http://www.platt-grigg.accessgenealogy.com/ > >http://uk-transcriptions.accessgenealogy.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Nicholas Fitzpatrick [mailto:nfitz@sentex.net] > >Sent: Monday, 26 September 2005 1:51 AM > >To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [WOR] Availability of 1841 and 1851 census for Worcestershire > > > >Hmm, I'm quite intersted by the posts recently about the > >availability of the 1841 census at http://www.originsnetwork.com > >I'll have to check this out! > >For 1861 to 1901 I generally use http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ > >But does anyone have any suggestions for 1851? Does anyone have > >the index and images available on-line? If not, what is the best > >source for them elsewhere (CD I assume). I have far too many > >folks I've traced back to 1861 to be relying on kind souls for 1851, in > >Worcestershire! > >Research in Worcestershire - Smith, Hyde, Griffin, Greening, Gordon, > >Haywood, Vine, May, Portman, Anderson, Stokes - there's a complete list of > >names on my site at: > >http://fitzpatrick.treeshare.com/indilist.php?alpha=A&surname_sublist=no&sh o > >w_all=yes > >Nick > > > > > > > > > > > >==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > >Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > >for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > >UK Census on-line > >http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== For Worcestershire information see http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WOR/ UK Census on-line http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

Hello List: I have found Thomas Walker age 43 on the 1881 census in Northfield Worcestershire. He gives his place of birth as Cromwell Lane, Worcestershire. Can anyone tell me where this is/was? Teresa in Canada

Hello to you all, I am descended from a family called Forrester. Samuel Forrester, his wife, Mary (Paling), and five sons John, Henry, Samuel, William, and Edward were living at 21, Beoley Street, Redditch at the time of the 1851 census. Samuel Forrester, (senior), was born in Tanworth, Warwickshire, c1810. I take this to be Tanworth-In-Arden, Warwickshire, rather than Tamworth, which in any case happens to be in Staffordshire. I can find no relevant baptism entry in a bound volume of the Tanworth-In-Arden baptism register, held at Birmingham library, and this does hinder my progress into my Forrester line. Incidentally, nothing in the Tamworth, Staffordshire baptism register either. Samuel Forrester and Mary Paling married in 1831, before civil registration. I would like to know if anyone has any thoughts on how I could progress with my Forrester (or Paling) lines, or if anyone has further information on "my" Forresters? Thanks in anticipation, Daryl Jones, Warwickshire.

Hello Mike, Claines is the Parish immediately to the North of (the city of) Worcester - parts of it were inside the City Boundary. (My parents and sister married there...) St Albans was a tiny parish (only 3 acres...) between the city centre and Worcester Cathedral. It had a short stretch of its boundary on the East bank of the River Severn, which *probably* could account for the 'slip', where china clay was unloaded for the Porcelain Factories. Can't help on Staffordshire - but I've never heard of a Rugely anywhere in Worcestershire. Rubery *might* be a possibility, but that has never been a Civil Parish. "St Philips, Warwick, Birmingham" sounds a mish-mash... St Philips is [now]Birmingham's Cathedral, and Birmingham was in WarwickSHIRE. [This could be down to the LDS' peculiar habit of referring to English Counties by the names of their County Town, rather than their real names...] HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mike.Browne@za.nampak.com> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 7:11 AM Subject: [WOR] Place Names > In doing my research on my family tree, there are certain place names > that crop up quite frequently and I would appreciate any information on > them. > > > > 1. Claines Church. Many of my ancestors were married there. > 2. St. Alban's, (China Slip) Worcester, England > 3. Pipe Ridware, Stafford, England > 4. Rugeley, Stafford, England and Rugeley, Worcester, England. - > Are they the same place? > 5. St Philips, Warwick, Birmingham, > > Regards > > Mike Browne > > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > For Worcestershire information see > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WOR/ > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > >

In doing my research on my family tree, there are certain place names that crop up quite frequently and I would appreciate any information on them. 1. Claines Church. Many of my ancestors were married there. 2. St. Alban's, (China Slip) Worcester, England 3. Pipe Ridware, Stafford, England 4. Rugeley, Stafford, England and Rugeley, Worcester, England. - Are they the same place? 5. St Philips, Warwick, Birmingham, Regards Mike Browne

Hi Mike, just realise that I put west instead of east! The Ridwares are east of Rugeley not west, sorry, I am not awake yet. All best wishes from Linda.

Mike, Pipe Ridware, is one of the Ridware Villages, the other's being, Hill Ridware, and Mavesyn Ridware, all very rural picturesque Villages west of Rugeley, on the edge of Cannock Chase Staffordshire, just south of Stafford County Town. I only know of Rugeley Staffs. There is a Rubery in Worcs, but no Rugeley. Hope this helps, all best wishes from Linda in Hixon near Rugeley.

Hello Emily, Are you referring to the 1841 or 1851? Ray Friend, the Indexer of the (now S&N) 1851, was one of the most meticulous I've ever come across, and I'd back her version aginst all comers... But ALL Transcriptions will contain *some* errors (even hers, even up to her death she was still correcting them when she was told of any) - and that includes the very schedules we rely on... THEY were copied by the Enumerator from the Householders' Forms, and so are themselves only Secondary Documents ! Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: Emily Kearns <emily.kearns@st-hildas.oxford.ac.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:07 AM Subject: RE: [WOR] Availability of 1841 and 1851 census for Worcestershire > But be warned, the transcription is not 100% reliable. I was thrown off the > scent for quite a long time because 'Lucy Hill' in the original was wrongly > trancribed as 'Mary Hill'. > > Emily > > At 22:11 25/09/2005, Mal Platt-Grigg wrote: > >G'day Nick, > >The Worcs 1851 is available from S&N Genealogy Supplies at > >http://www.genealogysupplies.com/ . It's transcribed, indexed & fully > >searchable, a great resource. > >I've had mine for about 3 years & it's been invaluable. > >Regards from Malcolm Platt-Grigg. > >Participant in Grigg DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/ > >Researching: GRIGG Halesowen, Harborne, Birmingham > > PLATT Wednesbury, Darlaston > >http://www.platt-grigg.accessgenealogy.com/ > >http://uk-transcriptions.accessgenealogy.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Nicholas Fitzpatrick [mailto:nfitz@sentex.net] > >Sent: Monday, 26 September 2005 1:51 AM > >To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [WOR] Availability of 1841 and 1851 census for Worcestershire > > > >Hmm, I'm quite intersted by the posts recently about the > >availability of the 1841 census at http://www.originsnetwork.com > >I'll have to check this out! > >For 1861 to 1901 I generally use http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ > >But does anyone have any suggestions for 1851? Does anyone have > >the index and images available on-line? If not, what is the best > >source for them elsewhere (CD I assume). I have far too many > >folks I've traced back to 1861 to be relying on kind souls for 1851, in > >Worcestershire! > >Research in Worcestershire - Smith, Hyde, Griffin, Greening, Gordon, > >Haywood, Vine, May, Portman, Anderson, Stokes - there's a complete list of > >names on my site at: > >http://fitzpatrick.treeshare.com/indilist.php?alpha=A&surname_sublist=no&sh o > >w_all=yes > >Nick > > > > > > > > > > > >==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > >Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > >for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > >UK Census on-line > >http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > >

But be warned, the transcription is not 100% reliable. I was thrown off the scent for quite a long time because 'Lucy Hill' in the original was wrongly trancribed as 'Mary Hill'. Emily At 22:11 25/09/2005, Mal Platt-Grigg wrote: >G'day Nick, >The Worcs 1851 is available from S&N Genealogy Supplies at >http://www.genealogysupplies.com/ . It's transcribed, indexed & fully >searchable, a great resource. >I've had mine for about 3 years & it's been invaluable. >Regards from Malcolm Platt-Grigg. >Participant in Grigg DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/ >Researching: GRIGG Halesowen, Harborne, Birmingham > PLATT Wednesbury, Darlaston >http://www.platt-grigg.accessgenealogy.com/ >http://uk-transcriptions.accessgenealogy.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Nicholas Fitzpatrick [mailto:nfitz@sentex.net] >Sent: Monday, 26 September 2005 1:51 AM >To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [WOR] Availability of 1841 and 1851 census for Worcestershire > >Hmm, I'm quite intersted by the posts recently about the >availability of the 1841 census at http://www.originsnetwork.com >I'll have to check this out! >For 1861 to 1901 I generally use http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ >But does anyone have any suggestions for 1851? Does anyone have >the index and images available on-line? If not, what is the best >source for them elsewhere (CD I assume). I have far too many >folks I've traced back to 1861 to be relying on kind souls for 1851, in >Worcestershire! >Research in Worcestershire - Smith, Hyde, Griffin, Greening, Gordon, >Haywood, Vine, May, Portman, Anderson, Stokes - there's a complete list of >names on my site at: >http://fitzpatrick.treeshare.com/indilist.php?alpha=A&surname_sublist=no&sho >w_all=yes >Nick > > > > > >==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== >Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG >for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com >UK Census on-line >http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

Sorry John, it was indeed the 1851 - perhaps I found the only error - when someone did a look-up for me from the original they found 'Lucy Hill' which is not in the transcription or its index, but is (I now know) certainly what the enumerator wrote. Emily At 11:37 29/09/05 +0100, John Tysoe wrote: >Hello Emily, > >Are you referring to the 1841 or 1851? > >Ray Friend, the Indexer of the (now S&N) 1851, was one of the most >meticulous I've ever come across, and I'd back her version aginst all >comers... > >But ALL Transcriptions will contain *some* errors (even hers, even up to her >death she was still correcting them when she was told of any) - and that >includes the very schedules we rely on... THEY were copied by the Enumerator >from the Householders' Forms, and so are themselves only Secondary Documents >! > >Gus > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Emily Kearns <emily.kearns@st-hildas.oxford.ac.uk> >To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:07 AM >Subject: RE: [WOR] Availability of 1841 and 1851 census for Worcestershire > > > > But be warned, the transcription is not 100% reliable. I was thrown off >the > > scent for quite a long time because 'Lucy Hill' in the original was >wrongly > > trancribed as 'Mary Hill'. > > > > Emily > > > > At 22:11 25/09/2005, Mal Platt-Grigg wrote: > > >G'day Nick, > > >The Worcs 1851 is available from S&N Genealogy Supplies at > > >http://www.genealogysupplies.com/ . It's transcribed, indexed & fully > > >searchable, a great resource. > > >I've had mine for about 3 years & it's been invaluable. > > >Regards from Malcolm Platt-Grigg. > > >Participant in Grigg DNA Project http://www.familytreedna.com/ > > >Researching: GRIGG Halesowen, Harborne, Birmingham > > > PLATT Wednesbury, Darlaston > > >http://www.platt-grigg.accessgenealogy.com/ > > >http://uk-transcriptions.accessgenealogy.com > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Nicholas Fitzpatrick [mailto:nfitz@sentex.net] > > >Sent: Monday, 26 September 2005 1:51 AM > > >To: ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [WOR] Availability of 1841 and 1851 census for Worcestershire > > > > > >Hmm, I'm quite intersted by the posts recently about the > > >availability of the 1841 census at http://www.originsnetwork.com > > >I'll have to check this out! > > >For 1861 to 1901 I generally use http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ > > >But does anyone have any suggestions for 1851? Does anyone have > > >the index and images available on-line? If not, what is the best > > >source for them elsewhere (CD I assume). I have far too many > > >folks I've traced back to 1861 to be relying on kind souls for 1851, in > > >Worcestershire! > > >Research in Worcestershire - Smith, Hyde, Griffin, Greening, Gordon, > > >Haywood, Vine, May, Portman, Anderson, Stokes - there's a complete list >of > > >names on my site at: > > > >http://fitzpatrick.treeshare.com/indilist.php?alpha=A&surname_sublist=no&sh >o > > >w_all=yes > > >Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > > >Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > > >for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > >UK Census on-line > > >http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > > Transcribers wanted for Worcestershire FreeREG > > for more information see http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > > >

Just a quick note to let all know of the recent updates for the site. Graves added for Powick, Hanley Castle, Tardebigge and Stoke Prior. Some census extracts added to the wiki for Bromsgrove Stoke Prior 1855 Directory listing added to both sites. Parish Register extracts added for Bromsgrove and Stoke Prior - mainly for the surname Lacey, Lacy, Dipple and Tranter but of course the marriage extracts do include others so I thought I would add them in case they help someone. Parish notes for Stoke Prior have been written and will be added in a few days. Hope that helps to cheer up the miserable weather. Good Hunting Sally from a wet and windy Worcester www.parishmouse.com and www.parishmouse.co.uk

Hello the list; I have a THOMAS RICHARDSON AGED 12, son of JOSHUA RICHARDSON & MARY on the 1871 census along with his siblings. THOMAS is nowhere to be found on the 1881 census. I have trawled the years between those dates for his possible demise, using 1837 online to no avail. Are there passenger lists or arrival lists of those seeking their fortune in the USA or Autralia at this time? John Eaton socon Cambs

In a message dated 28/09/2005 21:55:13 GMT Standard Time, jjminfiek@ntlworld.com writes: Are there passenger lists or arrival lists of those seeking their fortune in the USA or Autralia at this time? Hello John There are quite a few. There is a Rootsweb list called The Ships List - you could check under emm/immigration. Cyndi's list also give a huge number of possible sites. Judy

http://www.ewgreen.org.uk/ This one works http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/index.php?referrerid=14 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Lamberg" <linpete@lamberg25.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-WORCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: [WOR] RE PICTURES OF WORCS > Hi all, the link is not working, so if anyone is interested go into Google and search for 'Pen and Ink Drawings of Worcs.' Sorry about that, was trying to cheer everyone up. > > Best Wishes from Linda still in wet and cold Staffs. > > > ==== ENG-WORCESTER Mailing List ==== > FreeREG Project: parish register database > http://freereg.rootsweb.com > > UK Census on-line > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi all, the link is not working, so if anyone is interested go into Google and search for 'Pen and Ink Drawings of Worcs.' Sorry about that, was trying to cheer everyone up. Best Wishes from Linda still in wet and cold Staffs.

Hi all, thought you may be interested in some really lovely pen and ink drawings from Worcs. Hope the link works. www.ewgreen.org.uk/gaz-worcs Best Wishes from Linda in a cold and wet Staffs!