Gus: The definitive statement comes from "The Family Record", the newsletter from the Family Records Centre. See http://www.familyrecords.gov.uk/frc/news/fr_39.htm for the latest position. The project appears to be progressing steadily, albeit that the original timescales have slipped. It's not being done in-house, but under an external contract with Siemens, so in principle the move of the GRO shouldn't affect it. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Tysoe" <[email protected]> To: "Paul Prescott" <[email protected]>; "Mike Palmer" <[email protected]>; "John Kane" <[email protected]>; "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]>; "Eng-Worcester" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] GOWER > Hi Paul, > > But is there any news on *when* the New Index will be available - and at > what cost-to-view? > > The most recent I could find by Googling was April 2006 - and since then > there's been the news that the GRO is going to be moved to the Passport > Service in the Spring - which doesn't exactly Bode Well... > > Gus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Prescott" <[email protected]> > To: "Mike Palmer" <[email protected]>; "John Kane" > <[email protected]>; "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]>; > "Eng-Worcester" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:14 PM > Subject: Re: [WOR] GOWER > > > Vivien: > > Yes, I believe so. But you'll only need to do it for couples married > before > 1837 because DoVE also gives spouses' names in GRO marriages. > > Best wishes > > Paul Prescott > >

From: "Paul Prescott" <[email protected]> > > Yes, I believe so. But you'll only need to do it for couples married before > 1837 because DoVE also gives spouses' names in GRO marriages. > Oh that could really help me! I'm still looking for my great grandparents' marriage somewhere in Worcester (if there was one!). I've scoured the BMD index for a Henry WILLIAMS and Mary WILDING (or PLAYDON), but there are a so many Henry Williamses and so many ways to spell Wilding or Playdon that I've just about given up. They seemed to move around a lot so it could be anywhere from Claines to Blockhouse. If anyone knows of this marriage sometime after Henry's first wife died in 1855 then please let me know. My grandfather Walter was the youngest of at least 9 children born to Henry and Mary, and I do hope he was legitimate! Vivien

Hi Paul, But is there any news on *when* the New Index will be available - and at what cost-to-view? The most recent I could find by Googling was April 2006 - and since then there's been the news that the GRO is going to be moved to the Passport Service in the Spring - which doesn't exactly Bode Well... Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Prescott" <[email protected]> To: "Mike Palmer" <[email protected]>; "John Kane" <[email protected]>; "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]>; "Eng-Worcester" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] GOWER Vivien: Yes, I believe so. But you'll only need to do it for couples married before 1837 because DoVE also gives spouses' names in GRO marriages. Best wishes Paul Prescott

Vivien: Yes, I believe so. But you'll only need to do it for couples married before 1837 because DoVE also gives spouses' names in GRO marriages. Best wishes Paul Prescott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Palmer" <[email protected]> To: "John Kane" <[email protected]>; "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]>; "Eng-Worcester" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] GOWER > From: "John Kane" <[email protected]> >> >> Hope someone will find the marriage details for you, but a little trick I >> sometimes use is to look for subsequent births. Only works from Sep 1911 >> with mother's maiden name though... >> > That is very clever. > > Will we be able to do this for earlier years when the DoVE project gets > online? > > Vivien > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

From: "John Kane" <[email protected]> > > Hope someone will find the marriage details for you, but a little trick I > sometimes use is to look for subsequent births. Only works from Sep 1911 > with mother's maiden name though... > That is very clever. Will we be able to do this for earlier years when the DoVE project gets online? Vivien

Hi Ann, Sadly, no... It's available for free lookups at Worcester History Centre, but otherwise it's a "pay for searches by snail mail" operation. It covers 1660 to 1837. Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann" <[email protected]> To: "Worcester List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] GOWER Is the Worcester list available to purchase as the Devon ones are ?? Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: Eveline Clarke To: Eng-Worcester Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: [WOR] GOWER Hi I was wondering if anyone who was going to the Worcester Family History centre could look up the marriage index for me. On freeBMD I found a marriage for a Mary GOWER in the 4th quarter of 1911, the marriage was to either a Samuel BIDDLE or Sidney J WILDING. I would be grateful for any information which anyone is able to give me about Mary. Hoping someone can help. Eveline ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks John, VERY ingenious... Wish I'd thought of doing that :-) Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Kane" <[email protected]> To: "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]>; "Eng-Worcester" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] GOWER Hello Eveline, Hope someone will find the marriage details for you, but a little trick I sometimes use is to look for subsequent births. Only works from Sep 1911 with mother's maiden name though... Marriages Dec 1911 Biddle Samuel Worcester 6c 537 Bodenham Elsie Worcestor 6c 537 Gower Mary Worcester 6c 537 Wilding Sidney J Worcester 6c 537 Births Jun 1912 Biddle Roland S Gower Worcester 6c 487 Births Mar 1912 Wilding Sidney H Bodenham Worcester 6c 509 Births Jun 1914 WILDING Denis S Bodenham Worcester 6c 251 Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]> To: "Eng-Worcester" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: [WOR] GOWER > Hi > > I was wondering if anyone who was going to the Worcester Family History > centre could look up the marriage index for me. > > On freeBMD I found a marriage for a Mary GOWER in the 4th quarter of 1911, > the marriage was to either a Samuel BIDDLE or Sidney J WILDING. > > I would be grateful for any information which anyone is able to give me > about Mary. > > Hoping someone can help. > > Eveline ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Eveline, Hope someone will find the marriage details for you, but a little trick I sometimes use is to look for subsequent births. Only works from Sep 1911 with mother's maiden name though... Marriages Dec 1911 Biddle Samuel Worcester 6c 537 Bodenham Elsie Worcestor 6c 537 Gower Mary Worcester 6c 537 Wilding Sidney J Worcester 6c 537 Births Jun 1912 Biddle Roland S Gower Worcester 6c 487 Births Mar 1912 Wilding Sidney H Bodenham Worcester 6c 509 Births Jun 1914 WILDING Denis S Bodenham Worcester 6c 251 Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]> To: "Eng-Worcester" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: [WOR] GOWER > Hi > > I was wondering if anyone who was going to the Worcester Family History > centre could look up the marriage index for me. > > On freeBMD I found a marriage for a Mary GOWER in the 4th quarter of 1911, > the marriage was to either a Samuel BIDDLE or Sidney J WILDING. > > I would be grateful for any information which anyone is able to give me > about Mary. > > Hoping someone can help. > > Eveline

Is the Worcester list available to purchase as the Devon ones are ?? Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: Eveline Clarke To: Eng-Worcester Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: [WOR] GOWER Hi I was wondering if anyone who was going to the Worcester Family History centre could look up the marriage index for me. On freeBMD I found a marriage for a Mary GOWER in the 4th quarter of 1911, the marriage was to either a Samuel BIDDLE or Sidney J WILDING. I would be grateful for any information which anyone is able to give me about Mary. Hoping someone can help. Eveline ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I was wondering if anyone who was going to the Worcester Family History centre could look up the marriage index for me. On freeBMD I found a marriage for a Mary GOWER in the 4th quarter of 1911, the marriage was to either a Samuel BIDDLE or Sidney J WILDING. I would be grateful for any information which anyone is able to give me about Mary. Hoping someone can help. Eveline

Thanks, got it from Pauls last j ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Prescott" <[email protected]> To: "Eng-Worcester" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:34 AM Subject: [WOR] DoVE > Gus: > > The definitive statement comes from "The Family Record", the newsletter > from > the Family Records Centre. See > http://www.familyrecords.gov.uk/frc/news/fr_39.htm for the latest > position. > The project appears to be progressing steadily, albeit that the original > timescales have slipped. It's not being done in-house, but under an > external contract with Siemens, so in principle the move of the GRO > shouldn't affect it. > > Paul > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gus Tysoe" <[email protected]> > To: "Paul Prescott" <[email protected]>; "Mike Palmer" > <[email protected]>; "John Kane" <[email protected]>; > "Eveline > Clarke" <[email protected]>; "Eng-Worcester" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:35 PM > Subject: Re: [WOR] GOWER > > >> Hi Paul, >> >> But is there any news on *when* the New Index will be available - and at >> what cost-to-view? >> >> The most recent I could find by Googling was April 2006 - and since then >> there's been the news that the GRO is going to be moved to the Passport >> Service in the Spring - which doesn't exactly Bode Well... >> >> Gus >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paul Prescott" <[email protected]> >> To: "Mike Palmer" <[email protected]>; "John Kane" >> <[email protected]>; "Eveline Clarke" >> <[email protected]>; >> "Eng-Worcester" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [WOR] GOWER >> >> >> Vivien: >> >> Yes, I believe so. But you'll only need to do it for couples married >> before >> 1837 because DoVE also gives spouses' names in GRO marriages. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Paul Prescott >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lovely day, Could sks enlighten me! What is DoVE? John Cambridgeshire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Prescott" <[email protected]> To: "Mike Palmer" <[email protected]>; "John Kane" <[email protected]>; "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]>; "Eng-Worcester" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] GOWER > Vivien: > > Yes, I believe so. But you'll only need to do it for couples married > before > 1837 because DoVE also gives spouses' names in GRO marriages. > > Best wishes > > Paul Prescott > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Palmer" <[email protected]> > To: "John Kane" <[email protected]>; "Eveline Clarke" > <[email protected]>; "Eng-Worcester" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 1:34 PM > Subject: Re: [WOR] GOWER > > >> From: "John Kane" <[email protected]> >>> >>> Hope someone will find the marriage details for you, but a little trick >>> I >>> sometimes use is to look for subsequent births. Only works from Sep 1911 >>> with mother's maiden name though... >>> >> That is very clever. >> >> Will we be able to do this for earlier years when the DoVE project gets >> online? >> >> Vivien >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, My grandfather always said that he was born at Inkford Brook, Worcestershire, England on July 5th, 1867 (d. 1960). We later found a birth registration that shows Oldbury, West Bromwich, Worcestershire on a different date, but same person. Can anyone tell me if Inkford Brook still exists? If so, what is the location? I did find a web site that gave me some information. http://www.wythallchurch.net/History/wasmc_buildings.htm "Inkford Brook Farm (Barkers Lane SP07787397) The earliest of the three Inkford farms. L-shaped timber-framed building of the 16th. century with 18th. century additions at the west end. In the early 16th. century this was the home of Humphrey Filde, whose will refers to 'all my farm that I do hold in Kyngs Norton and SoIly hull', the river Cole, 250 yards to the south being the parish boundary.7" 7. H. M. Crant & E. A. B. Barnard The Parish and Church of King's Norton'in TWAS ~'o.l. (1 (New Series) 1924-5 p. 129. Some of my grandfather's siblings born in Kings Norton.

Looking for help in finding John Anthony born circa 1765 Worcester and surrounds cannot find baptism anywhere, have found marriage to Ann Bowen 28th June 1783 St. Clements, need to find baptism or death entry - also looking for Samuel Anthony - cld. be brothers. Any help would be fantastic.

BlankDoes anyone have access to the records of St Martin's in the Bull Ring, Birmingham to check an entry for what could be an ancestor of mine. According to IGI records, on 25 December 1794 Joseph Rose married Hannah Field. I want to find out if the fathers' names were listed or if the names of witnesses are recorded for this marriage, or the couple's ages. I think these could be some of my Halesowen ancestors, and suspect Hannah is the Hannah Field baptised at Halesowen in May 1774. Any help greatly appreciated! Best wishes, Steve Cullen

Helen, That's brilliant! Thank you very much for your help. Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Verrall" <[email protected]> To: "'John Kane'" <[email protected]>; "'Worcestershire List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:43 PM Subject: RE: [WOR] BOOTH = STINSON - Old Swinford 1807 > John > > Can confirm from the Transcript of Old Swinford Marriages by BMSGH,that > > Joshua BOOTHE ( Booth ) O.T.P Bachelor to Sarah STINSON of the Parish of > Kingswinford, Spinster- married 29th November 1807 at St Mary's Church, > Old > Swinford. By License. > > Witnesses: William Stinson and Mary Stinson. > > The License will possibly contain more information , a copy may be > available from Worcester Record Office. > > Hth > Helen > New Zealand

John Can confirm from the Transcript of Old Swinford Marriages by BMSGH,that Joshua BOOTHE ( Booth ) O.T.P Bachelor to Sarah STINSON of the Parish of Kingswinford, Spinster- married 29th November 1807 at St Mary's Church, Old Swinford. By License. Witnesses: William Stinson and Mary Stinson. The License will possibly contain more information , a copy may be available from Worcester Record Office. Hth Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Kane Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2007 8:09 a.m. To: Worcestershire List Subject: [WOR] BOOTH = STINSON - Old Swinford 1807 Dear Listers, Can anyone please help? I'm eager to confirm a marriage from IGI, and hopefully find more information... Joshua BOOTH = Sarah STINSON Marriage: 29 NOV 1807 Old Swinford, Worcester, England The 1841 census indicates that Joshua BOOTH was born in Ireland, but it doesn't look like he made it to 1851. I'm hoping for any clue to help trace him. Also hoping to meet anyone interested in these families. Regards, John ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, Can anyone please help? I'm eager to confirm a marriage from IGI, and hopefully find more information... Joshua BOOTH = Sarah STINSON Marriage: 29 NOV 1807 Old Swinford, Worcester, England The 1841 census indicates that Joshua BOOTH was born in Ireland, but it doesn't look like he made it to 1851. I'm hoping for any clue to help trace him. Also hoping to meet anyone interested in these families. Regards, John

I have been asked to supply more information with regard to these names I listed as my research interests yesterday. The HOLDEN family I am looking for is that of John HOLDEN (Abt 1809 - Bet 1871-78) & Anne HUNT (Abt 1813 - 1887). They were married in Dudley in 1833 and had a family of 10 children: 1. Isaiah b abt 1833 in Dudley - d 1882 - married Mary A BIRD in 1861 2. Honor b abt 1836 in Netherton - d 1887 3. Catherine b 1838 in Dudley - married James BIRD 4. Daniel b 1840 in Dudley - d 1894 - married Jane PARKES in 1861 Daniel's son Edwin Alfred HOLDEN founded HOLDEN's Brewery. 5. Samuel b 1842 in Rowley Regis, Stafordshire - d 1913 - married Elizabeth DARBY 6. Sarah Ann b 1844 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire 7. Martha b 1847 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire 8. Job b 1848 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire - d 1926 Manly, NSW, Australia - married Margaret Eliza ELLIS in Wednesbury, Staffordshire in 1874. *** This is my ancestor 9. Ann b 1850 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire - married Albert WRIGHT in 1876 in Lower Gornal 10. William b 1856 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire John HOLDEN was the son of James HOLDEN & Sarah ?????? - family size & details unknown Anne HUNT was the daughter of Daniel HUNT b. 1785 in Kidderminster - d. 1875 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire & Martha DUDLEY b. Abt 1879 in Dudley. They married in Tipton Staffordshire in 1809. I know basic details of 4 children in this family: 1. Joseph b. abt 1810 2. Anne b. abt 1813 *** married John HOLDEN 3. Sarah b. abt 1817 - d. 1818 4. Eliza b. abt 1819 Hope this extra information is able to assist in people maybe finding more about my elusive HOLDEN Ancestors. Chris Cessnock, Australia

On 11 Oct, Chris Holden <[email protected]> wrote: > Daniel's son Edwin Alfred HOLDEN founded HOLDEN's Brewery. In that case, have you tried contacting Holden's Brewery? It is still very much Alive and Kicking, and I know that they have extensive records. -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present