Paul, Many thanks for this! I was surprised to see that it worked on our computer without needing any extra downloads. "Sex, Lies and Civil Registration" is a must for anyone who believes everything that's written on a certificate! Vivien From: "Paul Prescott" <[email protected]> > > Forgive the cross-posting, but the response to this link has been very positive since I originally posted it on the Black Country site, and I thought it would be worth sharing with others. > > Many listers will know that The National Archives gives regular talks on various aspects of family history at the PRO in Kew. Less well known is that they're now available to replay online. Just go to http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/rss/podcasts.xml. Very easy to listen to, providing you've got broadband, I can particularly recommend "Sex, Lies and Civil Registration", among others. >

Hi: Forgive the cross-posting, but the response to this link has been very positive since I originally posted it on the Black Country site, and I thought it would be worth sharing with others. Many listers will know that The National Archives gives regular talks on various aspects of family history at the PRO in Kew. Less well known is that they're now available to replay online. Just go to http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/rss/podcasts.xml. Very easy to listen to, providing you've got broadband, I can particularly recommend "Sex, Lies and Civil Registration", among others. Regards Paul Prescott

My only Biddle connection is my ggg-grandmother Elizabeth Biddle, the daughter of George and Susannah Biddle, who was christened in Alcester on the 28th December 1785 and married Thomas Jennings in Alcester on the 15th October 1807. I don't have any more information about the Biddles. David. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]> To: "Eng-Worcester" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:55 PM Subject: [WOR] BIDDLE-GOWER > Hi > > I was wondering if there was anyone on the list researching the Biddle > family in Worcester. > > I am particularly interested in SAMUEL BIDDLE born c 1892. Samuel > married MARY GOWER at Countess of Huntingdons Free Church in December > 1911. > > On the marriage certificate Samuel is a French Polisher and his father > another Samuel was an Upholsterer. > > I have found one son from this marriage ROLAND S BIDDLE who was born in > 1912. > > Eveline > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1119 - Release Date: > 11/8/2007 17:55 > >

Steven, I agree with Gus that the most likely church would be Trimpley. These registers have not been microfilmed but Worcs. RO have the originals. These may be stored at the Headquarters branch at the County Hall rather than the Family History Centre. Suggest you give them a call before your visit. Colin Lloyd

Hi Steven, The nearest CofE church to Little Gains - still not sure about Sutton! - would be Trimpley Holy Trinity Chapel Of Ease [consecrated in 1844 as an 'additional church' ] but as far as I know it was never an 'independent' CofE Parish. It *may* have maintained its own registers - or the entries might be incorporated in those of the Mother Church, Kidderminster St Mary. But there weren't many alternative CofE churches within "easy" walking distance. You could, perhaps, try Upper Arley, Wolverley, Kidderminster St John [Blakebrook] or St George. And you must also remember that there were probably a good dozen Nonconformist Chapels within the Civil Parish of Kidderminster... HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] Little Gain and Sutton Common in Kidderminster ? Hi Gus Many thanks. This is looking fairly promising. Although difficult to read, Matilda's older sister Mary Georgina was, in the 1861 census, said to be born somewhere which could possibly be Trimpley. If I assume Little Gains, as referred to by Gus, is the place for now, would someone please be able to tell me the nearest parish church which might be worth checking for records of the name WHATTON? Regards, Steven On 10/11/07 11:02 PM, "Gus Tysoe" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Steven, > > Kidderminster (Ecclesiastical and Civil) Parish was a great deal larger in > area than Kidderminster Borough - but regrettably very very Maps show Parish > Boundaries... Plus, over the years since Matilda's birth, Kidderminster > Borough has extended quite widely. > > However, GoogleMaps shows a "Little Gains" that certainly looks to be within > the Kidderminster Parish Boundary... Grid ref SO793793 - it's apparently one > of the two[?] properties on the East side of the 'yellow' road leading North > from Trimpley to Shatterford [on the A442] a little to the South of the > turning to the Park Attwood. > > Can't help on Sutton Common, though - the only hit I get is near Shifnal... > > HTH > > Gus > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:26 PM > Subject: [WOR] Little Gain and Sutton Common in Kidderminster ? > > > I have a gg aunt, Matilda ANKER, who was born in 1857 at a place given on > her birth certificate as OLittle Gain near Kidderminster¹. I can find no > other reference to Little Gain, and I¹m hoping that someone can help me out > on that note. > > I did find mention of a field-name of Little Gain at > <http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43082>, seemingly > associated with the parish of Broom, but I don¹t know whether this is > relevant. Broom seems a little far away from Kidderminster to be referred to > as Onear Kidderminster¹. > > About three years later, in 1860, another child, Willy Joseph ANKER, was > born to the same family, with the birth place this time given as Sutton > Common, Kidderminster. I don¹t know exactly where Sutton Common is either, > but would be interested in knowing where it is in relation to Little Gain if > anyone can help. > > The mother of Matilda and Willy is Sarah ANKER nee WHATTON, said to be born > in Kidderminster anywhere between 1826 and 1840, depending on what record is > believed. A record of her birth or christening or family is yet to be found, > so we¹re hoping that these locations of Little Gain and Sutton Common may > lead to that. > > More detail on this family can be seen at... > > http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sknowles&id=I758 > > Any help appreciated. > > Regards, Steven ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat I located Elizabeth's first Marriage on the IGI To William SHAW at Leigh with Bransford 4 Nov 1832 - William appears to have died before 1841 Census . Elizabeth SHAW appears as a Widow with Ellen and William. Also Elizabeth SHAW married Joseph WIGGINS at Leigh with Bransford 2nd Nov 1841 This marriage appears in the GRO Index and on FreeBMD as - WIGGENS Joseph - SHAVE Elizabeth Martley Dec ¼ 1841 Vol 18 Page 499 I am sure this is your Elizabeth, though may pay to check the P R's or get the Certificate. hth Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Sutton Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2007 7:24 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: [WOR] Elizabeth Shaw I am looking for any info re Elizabeth Shaw nee Flowers born in Kempsey, Wor about 1812. In 1851 census she is married to Joseph Wiggins (can't find this recorded) and living in Great Malvern with their first child born June quarter 1843 and Ellen Shaw aged 16 and William Shaw aged 15. Both born in Malvern. Thank you Pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gus Many thanks. This is looking fairly promising. Although difficult to read, Matilda's older sister Mary Georgina was, in the 1861 census, said to be born somewhere which could possibly be Trimpley. If I assume Little Gains, as referred to by Gus, is the place for now, would someone please be able to tell me the nearest parish church which might be worth checking for records of the name WHATTON? Regards, Steven On 10/11/07 11:02 PM, "Gus Tysoe" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Steven, > > Kidderminster (Ecclesiastical and Civil) Parish was a great deal larger in > area than Kidderminster Borough - but regrettably very very Maps show Parish > Boundaries... Plus, over the years since Matilda's birth, Kidderminster > Borough has extended quite widely. > > However, GoogleMaps shows a "Little Gains" that certainly looks to be within > the Kidderminster Parish Boundary... Grid ref SO793793 - it's apparently one > of the two[?] properties on the East side of the 'yellow' road leading North > from Trimpley to Shatterford [on the A442] a little to the South of the > turning to the Park Attwood. > > Can't help on Sutton Common, though - the only hit I get is near Shifnal... > > HTH > > Gus > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:26 PM > Subject: [WOR] Little Gain and Sutton Common in Kidderminster ? > > > I have a gg aunt, Matilda ANKER, who was born in 1857 at a place given on > her birth certificate as OLittle Gain near Kidderminster¹. I can find no > other reference to Little Gain, and I¹m hoping that someone can help me out > on that note. > > I did find mention of a field-name of Little Gain at > <http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43082>, seemingly > associated with the parish of Broom, but I don¹t know whether this is > relevant. Broom seems a little far away from Kidderminster to be referred to > as Onear Kidderminster¹. > > About three years later, in 1860, another child, Willy Joseph ANKER, was > born to the same family, with the birth place this time given as Sutton > Common, Kidderminster. I don¹t know exactly where Sutton Common is either, > but would be interested in knowing where it is in relation to Little Gain if > anyone can help. > > The mother of Matilda and Willy is Sarah ANKER nee WHATTON, said to be born > in Kidderminster anywhere between 1826 and 1840, depending on what record is > believed. A record of her birth or christening or family is yet to be found, > so we¹re hoping that these locations of Little Gain and Sutton Common may > lead to that. > > More detail on this family can be seen at... > > http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sknowles&id=I758 > > Any help appreciated. > > Regards, Steven

I have a gg aunt, Matilda ANKER, who was born in 1857 at a place given on her birth certificate as ŒLittle Gain near Kidderminster¹. I can find no other reference to Little Gain, and I¹m hoping that someone can help me out on that note. I did find mention of a field-name of Little Gain at <http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43082>, seemingly associated with the parish of Broom, but I don¹t know whether this is relevant. Broom seems a little far away from Kidderminster to be referred to as Œnear Kidderminster¹. About three years later, in 1860, another child, Willy Joseph ANKER, was born to the same family, with the birth place this time given as Sutton Common, Kidderminster. I don¹t know exactly where Sutton Common is either, but would be interested in knowing where it is in relation to Little Gain if anyone can help. The mother of Matilda and Willy is Sarah ANKER nee WHATTON, said to be born in Kidderminster anywhere between 1826 and 1840, depending on what record is believed. A record of her birth or christening or family is yet to be found, so we¹re hoping that these locations of Little Gain and Sutton Common may lead to that. More detail on this family can be seen at... http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sknowles&id=I758 Any help appreciated. Regards, Steven

On an 1859 town plan of Kidderminster, Sutton Common (my guess is that it was common land) on the SW of the map is shown as being south of Bewdley Hill and west of a road called Sutton Common Road which extended south from the Union Workhouse. There are dwellings shown along this road. I suspect this is now the suburban area bounded by Bewdley Hill, Sutton Rd. to the east, and Sutton Park Rd which joins the two. I do not see Little Gain on the map. Not sure if this is of any help... Diana Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:26 AM Subject: [WOR] Little Gain and Sutton Common in Kidderminster ? I have a gg aunt, Matilda ANKER, who was born in 1857 at a place given on her birth certificate as OLittle Gain near Kidderminster¹. I can find no other reference to Little Gain, and I¹m hoping that someone can help me out on that note. I did find mention of a field-name of Little Gain at <http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43082>, seemingly associated with the parish of Broom, but I don¹t know whether this is relevant. Broom seems a little far away from Kidderminster to be referred to as Onear Kidderminster¹. About three years later, in 1860, another child, Willy Joseph ANKER, was born to the same family, with the birth place this time given as Sutton Common, Kidderminster. I don¹t know exactly where Sutton Common is either, but would be interested in knowing where it is in relation to Little Gain if anyone can help. The mother of Matilda and Willy is Sarah ANKER nee WHATTON, said to be born in Kidderminster anywhere between 1826 and 1840, depending on what record is believed. A record of her birth or christening or family is yet to be found, so we¹re hoping that these locations of Little Gain and Sutton Common may lead to that. More detail on this family can be seen at... http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sknowles&id=I758 Any help appreciated. Regards, Steven ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for any info re Elizabeth Shaw nee Flowers born in Kempsey, Wor about 1812. In 1851 census she is married to Joseph Wiggins (can't find this recorded) and living in Great Malvern with their first child born June quarter 1843 and Ellen Shaw aged 16 and William Shaw aged 15. Both born in Malvern. Thank you Pat

Does anyone know if there is a list of men serving in the police force in Kidderminster in 1840s? Family Story says Joseph Wiggins ( born 1812) was a policeman there. He went to India with 39th regiment in 1832 but haven't found his discharge. If I have found the right person in 1841 census he is a labourer and in the 1851 census (definitely him) he is a labourer. Thanks Pat

Hello Steven, Kidderminster (Ecclesiastical and Civil) Parish was a great deal larger in area than Kidderminster Borough - but regrettably very very Maps show Parish Boundaries... Plus, over the years since Matilda's birth, Kidderminster Borough has extended quite widely. However, GoogleMaps shows a "Little Gains" that certainly looks to be within the Kidderminster Parish Boundary... Grid ref SO793793 - it's apparently one of the two[?] properties on the East side of the 'yellow' road leading North from Trimpley to Shatterford [on the A442] a little to the South of the turning to the Park Attwood. Can't help on Sutton Common, though - the only hit I get is near Shifnal... HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: [WOR] Little Gain and Sutton Common in Kidderminster ? I have a gg aunt, Matilda ANKER, who was born in 1857 at a place given on her birth certificate as OLittle Gain near Kidderminster¹. I can find no other reference to Little Gain, and I¹m hoping that someone can help me out on that note. I did find mention of a field-name of Little Gain at <http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43082>, seemingly associated with the parish of Broom, but I don¹t know whether this is relevant. Broom seems a little far away from Kidderminster to be referred to as Onear Kidderminster¹. About three years later, in 1860, another child, Willy Joseph ANKER, was born to the same family, with the birth place this time given as Sutton Common, Kidderminster. I don¹t know exactly where Sutton Common is either, but would be interested in knowing where it is in relation to Little Gain if anyone can help. The mother of Matilda and Willy is Sarah ANKER nee WHATTON, said to be born in Kidderminster anywhere between 1826 and 1840, depending on what record is believed. A record of her birth or christening or family is yet to be found, so we¹re hoping that these locations of Little Gain and Sutton Common may lead to that. More detail on this family can be seen at... http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sknowles&id=I758 Any help appreciated. Regards, Steven ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have just received some photocopied papers from Powick Asylum, is anyone looking for any of these people in 1869? - Henry Spencer William COCHIN Thomas OLIVER Isaiah WEBB Francis LEA Eunice MALE Hannah SKELDING George WRIGHT Daniel PRITCHARD Henry BUTLER Margaret MEDWAY Frances BROWN also mentioned as signatories R L FREER, W DICKENS, H A BRUCE, J L WHEELER, H MILWARDR L CAMPBELL, W BRATT P H WILLIAMS G E HYDE, TOM BATE , W SMITH And could anyone let me know how I can find out more about my ancestor's spell in Worcester County Prison? Thank you Louise

1841 British Census HO 107/1205/6 Hello Pat: The 1841 British Census shows: Elizabeth SHAW, age 29, Ag labourer, Born in the County...Y Ellen do , age 6 Y William do , age 11 Y Ann Flower do , age 11 Y (Looks like) Poolem Street County of Worcester Parish of Great Malvern Part 7 Hope this helps I could send the image of the census page if you would like to have it. Barb, Ontario, Canada. <<<<<<<<----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Sutton To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 1:23 AM Subject: [WOR] Elizabeth Shaw<<<<<<<<<

Hi I was wondering if there was anyone on the list researching the Biddle family in Worcester. I am particularly interested in SAMUEL BIDDLE born c 1892. Samuel married MARY GOWER at Countess of Huntingdons Free Church in December 1911. On the marriage certificate Samuel is a French Polisher and his father another Samuel was an Upholsterer. I have found one son from this marriage ROLAND S BIDDLE who was born in 1912. Eveline

Thanks for this Bill. My last visit to the centre of Worcester being in the 60s and not being in the area now I had to look up Crowngate and I found a map on their website. I doubt if many of my family's haunts exist now! Vivien From: "bill" <[email protected]> > > With reference to Merrivale when the crown gate shopping centre was > constructed the yard to the rear of Broad st and adjacent to the centres > service exit ramp was known as Merryvale ( still is ) this is accessable off > the Deansway opposite the Church, Powick Lane is the walkway off Deansway > between huntington Hall and What was Beatties so the Glovers Arms was in the > area between the 2.

Just a quick comment... As the 1841 does *not* give any relationships within the household, you can't assume that Mary was his wife, nor that the children are "his".... She could be his sister, with 2 illegitimate children; Or his widowed sister-in-law, with her two legitimate children; Or even entirely unrelated, but coincidentally bearing the same surname; Or a 'temporary liaison' and he just "SAID" that their surname was EVANS... There are many other possibilities......... You don't say where any of them were recorded in any of the Censuses, which makes it very hard to trace Mary and the children in the 1851 :-( Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "BENJAMIN HORTON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:36 AM Subject: [WOR] evans family can someone help me please. i am trying to trace evans family. in 1841 census the following states, thomas 30 porter mary 30 wife celina 7 daughter walter 1 son. then 10 years later on the 1851 census there is no mary, walter. or celina. and thomas is at his sister in laws. elizabeth hawks un married. i know thomas evans married a mary hawks. but in the 1861 censusthomas is now head of family in elizabeths house she is still un married but has three sons and a daughter of two.thomas is down as a widower at this point.i know in 1881 walter was lodging in birmingham but what happened in between to him. any help or ideas would be very helpful. thank you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

can someone help me please. i am trying to trace evans family. in 1841 census the following states, thomas 30 porter mary 30 wife celina 7 daughter walter 1 son. then 10 years later on the 1851 census there is no mary, walter. or celina. and thomas is at his sister in laws. elizabeth hawks un married. i know thomas evans married a mary hawks. but in the 1861 censusthomas is now head of family in elizabeths house she is still un married but has three sons and a daughter of two.thomas is down as a widower at this point.i know in 1881 walter was lodging in birmingham but what happened in between to him. any help or ideas would be very helpful. thank you.

Hi all With reference to Merrivale when the crown gate shopping centre was constructed the yard to the rear of Broad st and adjacent to the centres service exit ramp was known as Merryvale ( still is ) this is accessable off the Deansway opposite the Church, Powick Lane is the walkway off Deansway between huntington Hall and What was Beatties so the Glovers Arms was in the area between the 2. Regards Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:05 AM Subject: ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 254 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. William GARLAND (Terry Garland) > 2. where are the Pinch and merrievale (soloman) > 3. Re: William GARLAND (Gus Tysoe) > 4. Re: where are the Pinch and merrievale (Mike Palmer) > 5. Re: where are the Pinch and merrievale (Gus Tysoe) > 6. Frustration (JR) > 7. Re: where are the Pinch and merrievale (Dean Clarke) > 8. Re: Frustration (Firebird) > 9. Re: Frustration (Peter_Holly) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:30:28 -0000 > From: "Terry Garland" <[email protected]> > Subject: [WOR] William GARLAND > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > List, > > Re-posting my earliest interest - I still haven't found time to get to > Worcester to check local records! > > Any information on William GARLAND.... > b. Abt. 1790-1800 > m. Date and spouse not known > occupation 1815 - 1830 Constable > son Samuel GARLAND b. Abt 1818 [Innkeeper in Diglis Street 1848-51] > occupation 1840 Beadle/Guildhall Keeper > residence 1840 Diglis Street, Worcester > d. Dec. 1870, Warwickshire [Unconfirmed] > > Terry Garland > www.terrygarland.co.uk > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:59:34 +0000 (GMT) > From: soloman <[email protected]> > Subject: [WOR] where are the Pinch and merrievale > To: Eng-Worcester <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Does anyone know where the places called: 'the Pinch' and also > 'merry[ie] vale where situated in worcester. > > I think the Pinch was in St Johns, but not sure. > > Roy > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 12:57:47 -0000 > From: "Gus Tysoe" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WOR] William GARLAND > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello Terry, > > In 1841 there was a William GARLAND, "60", Mayor's Officer, born in County > recorded in Frog Lane [now Severn Street] Worcester St Peter, > [HO107/1209/17; Fo 7; p6] > > Also in the household were: > Ann GARLAND, "60", not born in County > Maria GARLAND, "30", born in County > > In 1851 - in Diglis Street, Worcester St Peter [HO107/2042; Fo 829; Sch > 110] > William GARLAND, Head, "M", 77, M, Retired Mayor's Officer; Worcester > Maria GARLAND, Dau, U, 45, F, -, Worcester St Martin > This was about "a couple of doors down" from the far end of Turners > Buildings, where Samuel was innkeeper of The Shades. I couldn't find Ann, > who *may* have died at some stage after the 1841, despite William being > shown as "married". > > In 1841, Samuel, 23 [with wife Mary, 21 and son George, 1month] was > recorded > "at" an unnamed Pub in Friar Street, Worcester St Helen. [HO107/1209/9; Fo > 23; p26] No occupation is given for him or Mary, but their names > immediately > follow that of the Landlord, George WORMINGTON, "55". The presumption has > to > be that they were live-in bar staff. > > > *IF* William's age was correctly given in the 1851, he'd've been born > c.1773-74 [quite a bit earlier than your estimate] - and if his birthplace > is correct then the absence of his, Maria's and Samuel's baptisms from the > IGI would imply that he was a Nonconformist of some denomination. > > I *suspect* that he could well have married Ann HOLDER at Lydney, GLS on > 15 > May 1804 - this at least would fit with her having been born "out of > County" - but you'd need to see the Parish Register entry for additional > information. > > HTH > > Gus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Garland" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:30 AM > Subject: [WOR] William GARLAND > > > List, > > Re-posting my earliest interest - I still haven't found time to get to > Worcester to check local records! > > Any information on William GARLAND.... > b. Abt. 1790-1800 > m. Date and spouse not known > occupation 1815 - 1830 Constable > son Samuel GARLAND b. Abt 1818 [Innkeeper in Diglis Street 1848-51] > occupation 1840 Beadle/Guildhall Keeper > residence 1840 Diglis Street, Worcester > d. Dec. 1870, Warwickshire [Unconfirmed] > > Terry Garland > www.terrygarland.co.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 12:51:00 -0000 > From: "Mike Palmer" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WOR] where are the Pinch and merrievale > To: "soloman" <[email protected]>, "Eng-Worcester" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Roy, > > Merry Vale (Merrivale) was in St Andrews. It's still on a 1960s map that I > have, joining Broad Street where it meets All Hallows, so it's just > across > the river from St Johns. > > My Hale family ran the Glovers' Arms pub where Merryvale met Powick Lane, > and the address varied according to which census it was on. > > Vivien > > From: "soloman" <[email protected]> > > >> Does anyone know where the places called: 'the Pinch' and also > 'merry[ie] vale where situated in worcester. >> >> I think the Pinch was in St Johns, but not sure. >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:07:11 -0000 > From: "Gus Tysoe" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WOR] where are the Pinch and merrievale > To: "soloman" <[email protected]>, "Eng-Worcester" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello Roy, > > A date and a source just might help here... > > But Merryvale is now the northern end of Deansway - it ran South from the > junction of Broad and Bridge Streets to (roughly) the northern end of St > Andrews former graveyard. I don't know when it was (officially) renamed, > but > it was certainly still referred to by the Old Name in the mid-1950s. > > Can't help on The Pinch, though - that's one I've never heard of! > > Gus > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "soloman" <[email protected]> > To: "Eng-Worcester" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:59 AM > Subject: [WOR] where are the Pinch and merrievale > > > Does anyone know where the places called: 'the Pinch' and also > 'merry[ie] > vale where situated in worcester. > > I think the Pinch was in St Johns, but not sure. > > Roy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:18:42 -0800 > From: "JR" <[email protected]> > Subject: [WOR] Frustration > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello List > > I have relatives on the 1891 census. living in Cardiff. > > They appear as GARTONIA DEBONS and ALICE DEBONS, however their correct > surname was DEBONO. He was 50 and born in MALTA, Alice WAS 33 and born in > BRISTOL. > > Could SKS advise me on how to search the 1901. I have tried numerous > combinations without success. > > Many thanks > > John > Eaton Socon > Cambridgeshire. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:04:50 +0000 > From: Dean Clarke <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WOR] where are the Pinch and merrievale > To: soloman <[email protected]> > Cc: Eng-Worcester <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Theres a Pinch off Hallow Green > Dean > > On 7 Nov 2007, at 11:59, soloman wrote: > > Does anyone know where the places called: 'the Pinch' and also > 'merry[ie] vale where situated in worcester. > > I think the Pinch was in St Johns, but not sure. > > Roy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:10:47 +0000 > From: Firebird <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WOR] Frustration > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > JR wrote: > >> Hello List >> >> I have relatives on the 1891 census. living in Cardiff. >> >> They appear as GARTONIA DEBONS and ALICE DEBONS, however their >> correct surname was DEBONO. He was 50 and born in MALTA, Alice WAS >> 33 and born in BRISTOL. >> >> Could SKS advise me on how to search the 1901. I have tried >> numerous combinations without success. > > I don't know which resource you are using for the 1901 but if you can > do so, try searching on Alice (no surname), 43 and Bristol to see if > that will find her. Gartonia is liable to be hopelessly mistranscribed. > > Otherwise have a look on www.freebmd.org.uk or www.familyrelatives.com > for their deaths between 1891 and 1901. Familyrelatives is indexed to > 1920. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:43:03 +1100 > From: "Peter_Holly" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WOR] Frustration > To: "JR" <[email protected]> > Cc: WORCESTER Mailing List <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi > > Here is the death of Gartonia: > > England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 > about Gaetano De Bono > Name: Gaetano De Bono > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 > Year of Registration: 1894 > Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun > Age at Death: 55 > District: Cardiff (1837-1974) > County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire > Volume: 11a > Page: 195 > > Source Information: > FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 [database > on-line]. > Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. Original data: > General > Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, > England: General Register Office. > > Regards > > Holly > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of JR > Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2007 4:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WOR] Frustration > > > Hello List > > I have relatives on the 1891 census. living in Cardiff. > > They appear as GARTONIA DEBONS and ALICE DEBONS, however their correct > surname was DEBONO. He was 50 and born in MALTA, Alice WAS 33 and born in > BRISTOL. > > Could SKS advise me on how to search the 1901. I have tried numerous > combinations without success. > > Many thanks > > John > Eaton Socon > Cambridgeshire. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-WORCESTER list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ENG-WORCESTER mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 254 > ********************************************* >

Hi Here is the death of Gartonia: England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Gaetano De Bono Name: Gaetano De Bono Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Year of Registration: 1894 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 55 District: Cardiff (1837-1974) County: Glamorgan, Monmouthshire Volume: 11a Page: 195 Source Information: FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. Regards Holly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of JR Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2007 4:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [WOR] Frustration Hello List I have relatives on the 1891 census. living in Cardiff. They appear as GARTONIA DEBONS and ALICE DEBONS, however their correct surname was DEBONO. He was 50 and born in MALTA, Alice WAS 33 and born in BRISTOL. Could SKS advise me on how to search the 1901. I have tried numerous combinations without success. Many thanks John Eaton Socon Cambridgeshire. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message