I think there are two 'mistakes' on the 1861 entry: 1) Sarah is described as John's daughter whereas she was actually his 'wife' 2) I think she was actually called Maria not Sarah The 1871 entry shows the family as follows: John HILL (40) - Head Maria BOURN (37) - Wife Eliza BOURN (15), Ann BOURN (8), Maria BOURN (7), Kate BOURN (5), John BOURN (1) - no relationships given for any of these children RG10/3212 f.10 p.11 In 1881 we find: John HILL (48) - Head Maria HILL (46) - Wife Maria HILL (17) - Daughter John HILL (11) - Son Kate E PRITCHETT (9) - Grand Daughter RG11/2943 f.98 p.22 This last entry clearly proves that this is the right family - however, Kate was before Emma married James PRITCHETT and her birth is registered as Kate Elizabeth BOURNE (Mar q. 1872, Alcester 6d 618). Dave Annal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill and Peter Harvey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: [WOR] EMMA BOURNE 1861/1871 lookup please > Dear Julie > > More:- > > 1861 census living at Headless Cross, Webheath, Redditch aged 8 with > mother Sarah Bourne 27, and sisters Jane,7, Eliza 5, Harriet 3, > Elizabeth 1,...and grandfather John Hill aged 28?! Mistake somewhere. > RG9/2118 f 27 p 5. > Best wishes > Jill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Julie More:- 1861 census living at Headless Cross, Webheath, Redditch aged 8 with mother Sarah Bourne 27, and sisters Jane,7, Eliza 5, Harriet 3, Elizabeth 1,...and grandfather John Hill aged 28?! Mistake somewhere. RG9/2118 f 27 p 5. Best wishes Jill

Dear Julie Feckenham is not far from Redditch, and both are in Worcestershire. Jill

Looking for info on EMMA BOURNE prior to her marriage to James Pritchatt in Kings Norton in 1875. In 1881 they were living in the parish of St Thomas, Birmingham. James was from Birmingham, don't know if Emma moved there on marriage or before. 1881 entry : Emma(Elizabeth) age 29 born Redditch, Worcester.There are two boarders living in the household, Harriet Bourne age 28 and Annie Bourne age 19 both born Redditch. I presume they are relatives. 1891 entry : Emma age 39 laundress born Worcestershire-Trekenham. Can't find a Trekenham, wonder if it should be Feckenham( have only seen transcription and incidentally the family name has been wrongly transcribed as Pritchart). I'm not sure whether I should be looking in Worcestershire or Warwickshire. Hope some kind person can help me out. Julie _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml

I'm new, sort of. I am researching the names of Cooper, Wilde and Preston in the Tibberton, Crowle area in the 1800s and 1900s. Also I would like to contact any of the family who live in the area. Gordon Osmond, Albury, Australia.

Hi listers , been inactive for months on genealogy, just to re-affirm my research for TYLER's of Worcester. Most of whom were in the leather industry, glovers etc. Any other TYLER researchers would be welcome to make contact & compare research. Main interest line is Edward TYLER b1791 Worcester, Edward & William names are repeated down the family lines. Researching Names in Worcester: .DARKE, PRICE,TYLER, WEAVER,CHANCE,SMITH,CLAYTON,SAMPSON Stafford: DITCHFIELD,BATES Pembroke Dock, Wales: DAVIES Gloucester: DAVIS Ireland: NOLAN Leicestershire: BATES Hereford: SAMPSON, Shanson, Sanson Keith & Jan Price...Worcester born, marooned in tropical Australia

Thank you to everyone for the bits of information supplied, they're a great starting point and I shall check out the websites / books suggested and I'll use some of the information for my essay. Unfortunately travelling to Evesham for research in person isn't an option at present. To BOB NEW - the COLES family I'm studying are JOSEPH (born 1845) and ELIZA (born 1842) who would be my great great grandparents. ELIZA 's maiden name was GROVE but I don't know of a Susan in her family as yet. I do have a couple of Charles Coles', what birth / death dates do you have for yours? Best wishes to all, Pippa, Brighton

Hello again, Thanks to Ruth and Katie for your contributions but I think perhaps I didn't explain what I'm after very well. I have the censuses / facts / dates about the family but I'm really looking for some Evesham local / social history to put these people into a mental "picture"; e.g. the style or construction of housing they lived in, which other religions / denominations were growing / under threat at the time. Her father market gardened 44 acres of land - was this alot or usual or a relatively small piece of land? Thank again to one and all, Pippa ----- Original Message ----- From: "philippa edwards" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: [WOR] help re coles family 25 cowl street evesham next to GoldenH(e)art >I am writing an essay for a study course, Family History in a Social >Context, and am looking at this part of my family for one aspect of it. >Could anyone tell me anything about this house / the housing of this street >in 1861 to 1881period? The family were market gardeners and I'm trying to >work out how well they were doing at it, what quality the housing would >have been etc. > > One daughter of the family, Clara my great grandmother, left home to join > the Salvation Army and was never spoken to again. I am trying to get a > picture of what her life may have been like and what the family > expectations for her may have been. > > If anyone can give me any useful snippets of information I'd be really > grateful. > > Thanks, > > Pippa, Brighton UK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ken, have you found out any more about your TYLER's? I have very scant TYLER info. Jim TYLER married Mabel Amelia LEE (born 1903) Jim had a store in Worcester. I understand it sold radio equipment and the like They had 3 sons - Geoffrey, Dennis and Gerald. Regards Tanya -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, 10 September 2007 5:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 217 Today's Topics: 1. TYLER of Bewdley ([email protected]) 2. Re: TYLER of Bewdley (Helen Verrall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 09:03:05 EDT From: [email protected] Subject: [WOR] TYLER of Bewdley To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello Listers, I am looking for information on John Tyler of Bewdley. He was born about 1812. He and his wife Hannah had a daughter Ann in 1842. Ann was my great great grandmother. Thank You Kenneth Hughes in Gwynedd,Wales ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:04:16 +1200 From: "Helen Verrall" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WOR] TYLER of Bewdley To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Kenneth The 1851 Census Lists them thus ! 1851 England Census about John Tyler Name: John Tyler Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1812 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Bewdley, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Kidderminster Ecclesiastical parish: Wribbenhall County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Kidderminster ED, institution, or vessel: 2e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 47 Household Members: Name Age Ann Tyler 8 Hannah Tyler 35 John Tyler 39 Have sent you the image of the page off List ! There is a Baptisms at Ribbesford that could be John's ( Ribbesford was the Church used by Bewdley folk until St Anne's was built ) TYLER, John Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 23 Nov 1811 Recorded in: Ribbesford, Worcestershire, England Father: Samuel TYLER Mother: Elizabeth Source: FHL Film 992393 Dates: 1775 - 1812 TYLER, John Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 8 Mar 1812 Recorded in: Ribbesford, Worcestershire, England Father: Samuel TYLER Mother: Elizabeth Source: FHL Film 992393 Dates: 1775 - 1812 AS it appears twice I would say the first date was a Private Baptism and the 2nd and admission to the church. Too close for elder brother to have been born and died. This could be his parent's Marriage TYLER, Samuel Marriage Wife: Elizabeth TUDER Marriage Date: 8 Apr 1811 Recorded in: Ribbesford, Worcestershire, England Source: FHL Film 992393 Dates: 1775 - 1812 >From the GRO Index John married in Stourbridge District June ? 1840 Hannah's maiden name being BIRD Ref Vol. 18 Page 574 hth Helen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, 10 September 2007 1:03 a.m. To: [email protected] Subject: [WOR] TYLER of Bewdley Hello Listers, I am looking for information on John Tyler of Bewdley. He was born about 1812. He and his wife Hannah had a daughter Ann in 1842. Ann was my great great grandmother. Thank You Kenneth Hughes in Gwynedd,Wales ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-WORCESTER list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the ENG-WORCESTER mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 217 *********************************************

The DOUGHTY's I have are from Sustead Norfolk. William DOUGHTY married Elizabeth PITCHER. Their daughter Elizabeth DOUGHTY married Philip FROST. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 9 August 2007 5:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 198 Today's Topics: 1. Re: doughty ancestors ([email protected]) 2. Re: Ancestors (Adele) 3. JARVIS EVESHAM (colin jarvis) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 03:57:34 EDT From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WOR] doughty ancestors To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" <I wonder does anyone out there have Worcestershire ancestors named; ROSSITER. DOUGHTY, HORNIBLOW> I have Doughtys in Worcester 18th and 19th Century back to Abraham probably born 1750's ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:49:51 +1000 From: "Adele" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WOR] Ancestors To: "JR" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original John I have got Elizabeth DONGHTY marrying a Richard Henry ROGERS Adele ----- Original Message ----- From: "JR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:04 PM Subject: [WOR] Ancestors > Hello list, > > Quiet evening here on the Great Ouse. Hope all is well with you. > > I wonder does anyone out there have Worcestershire ancestors named; > ROSSITER. DOUGHTY, HORNIBLOW. > All three married RICHARDSON girls around the turn of the 19/20 century. > > Just a throw into the dark. > > kind regards > > john > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:04:59 +1000 From: "colin jarvis" <[email protected]> Subject: [WOR] JARVIS EVESHAM To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Good morning from Australia, May I ask if anyone can give assistance regarding my query below. For several years I have been trying to find the parents and siblings of my gggggrandfather Thomas Jarvis. A National Archives document shows him apprenticed as a cordwainer to a William Buller in 1743 at Armscott,near Tredington which was then in Worcestershire with his fathers name given as Thomas also. >From this information and that held on apprenticeships it seems that Thomas would have been born between 1722 and 1729. Although it is known that he married, established a cordwainer business,raised a family and died at Ebrington in Gloucestershire, several searches in that county have found nothing. Although some information has been found on his descendents in South Warwickshire searches there have again found nothing. I have now found a record showing the christening of a Thomas Jarvis at All Saints Church,Evesham 23rd October,1687. Can anyone suggest how I can best follow this up. I would also like to hear from anyone researching Jarvis. Any help/guidance much appreciated. Regards. Colin Jarvis. ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-WORCESTER list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the ENG-WORCESTER mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 198 *********************************************

I am writing an essay for a study course, Family History in a Social Context, and am looking at this part of my family for one aspect of it. Could anyone tell me anything about this house / the housing of this street in 1861 to 1881period? The family were market gardeners and I'm trying to work out how well they were doing at it, what quality the housing would have been etc. One daughter of the family, Clara my great grandmother, left home to join the Salvation Army and was never spoken to again. I am trying to get a picture of what her life may have been like and what the family expectations for her may have been. If anyone can give me any useful snippets of information I'd be really grateful. Thanks, Pippa, Brighton UK

I am looking for information on an artilleryman who came from Kidderminster and who died early in WW1. Are their any relatives out there please who may have som information on: HARVEY, SAMUEL Initials: S Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Gunner Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery Age: 27 Date of Death: 27/01/1916 Service No: 2524 Additional information: Son of Samuel and Margaret Harvey, of Pleasant St., Gardes, Kidderminster; husband of Annie Harvey, of 1, Coalfield Row, Kidderminster. regards Dennis

Could Dennis Corbett send me an e-mail off list? My e-mail address is [email protected] Colin Lloyd

Dear Lyn, Thankyou very, very much for todays Gallipoli photos (14), of Twelve Tree Copse and Lone Pine, with the photos of their names. I dont know what happened to the photos last week. Frank Ross (seconded to the Auckland Regiment) and Allan Gillingham (seconded to the Southland Regiment) were the only two fellows that I am aware of, that died in Gallipoli from the small coal mining town of Cobden, Greymouth, South Island, NZ. Details in the book "Bloody Gallipoli" by Richard Stowers. Your help has been greatly appreciated. Richard Poole ----------------------- Dear Richard could you please let me know if you have received the photos - my husband has sent them to you recently Kind regards Lyn _____ From: [email protected] To: lynedmonds; [email protected] Subject: Gallipoli visit Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:51:30 +1200 Good morning from New Zealand Lyn, If you are not undermined by requests, and happen to attend the 'Lone Pine Memorial' or the 'Twelve Tree Copse Memorial' at Gallipoli, I would be delighted if you could take photos of the two following graves/stones. 1. My mother's uncle: A(llan) Gillingham died 25.4.15 (Anzac day - for NZers and Aussies). He died storming the beach after leaving the ship 'Annaberg'. He is buried at Lone Pine Memorial (75). I assume (75) is a section of Lone Pine. 2. The only other Cobden born, West Coast, South Island, NZ, lad is Frank George Ross died 8.5.15 at Daisy Patch. He is buried at 'Twelve Tree Copse Memorial (11.1.8)' Some of the memorials are miles apart, so I will understand if you dont succeed. Have a nice, safe trip. Regards, Richard. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [ <mailto:[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lyn Edmonds As part of my family history research we are visiting Gallipoli soon. I would be happy to take any photo requests for graves or memorials. Lyn

OK Dennis, I'll see what I can do Colin Lloyd Kidderminster ----- Original Message ----- From: "denniscorbett" <[email protected]> To: "Worcester" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: [WOR] War Grave - Lower Mitton >I wonder if there is a lister in the Stourport area who may be willing to > help me? For a tribute website concerning the artillery in Worcestershire, > I > need one last war grave picture to complete all of the men's graves in the > UK. I did have one or two offers a couple of years ago to photograph the > grave, but unfortunately nothing came of them. > > The grave is that of Gunner Donald Edward Large. It is in the churchyard > of > St. Michaels, Lower Mitton, and the grave reference is A12.417-18. I was > informed at one time that it is one of a group of about five. It is almost > certainly a standard Commonwealth War Grave stone in Portland stone with a > curved top. > > I would be most grateful if anyone out there can help - I now live > overseas > and have very little opportunity to get back to the UK. > > Thanks > > Dennis Corbett > > > > >

Hi Listers I've been doing some research on my NOTT family, including my 3GGF, William, who unfortunately for research purposes, married Hannah JONES, 1807, in Worcester. Even though their names have been tousled by various enumerators, I managed to find that William and Hannah were i/c of The Fox Inn, Bransford Bridge, William until he died in 1843 then Hannah until she died in 1852. Their daughter, Charlotte, who married James SIMMS, took over. This couple had no children, but adopted Charlotte's niece, Charlotte Rosannah, whose parents and three brothers died when she was about six. Charlotte's other brother, William, and his wife, died in 1848 and 1850 respectively, leaving five orphan children. Charlotte died in 1886 and niece, Charlotte R with her husband, John EABORN, ran the pub at least until 1891. I'd now love to find out more about 3GGM, Hannah [JONES], but where to start? I think she was born in Alfrick, about 1780, but there are so many possibilities, not least of which is that Hannah is interchangeable with Ann and Nancy. Has anyone seeking JONESes any hints to offer, please? Kind regards Joy

Can anyone offer any help with the following? John Turner - born about 1786, Droitwich, Worcs married Ann (surname unknown), who was born Dudley Anyone have access to the PRs ? Gwyn

I wonder if there is a lister in the Stourport area who may be willing to help me? For a tribute website concerning the artillery in Worcestershire, I need one last war grave picture to complete all of the men's graves in the UK. I did have one or two offers a couple of years ago to photograph the grave, but unfortunately nothing came of them. The grave is that of Gunner Donald Edward Large. It is in the churchyard of St. Michaels, Lower Mitton, and the grave reference is A12.417-18. I was informed at one time that it is one of a group of about five. It is almost certainly a standard Commonwealth War Grave stone in Portland stone with a curved top. I would be most grateful if anyone out there can help - I now live overseas and have very little opportunity to get back to the UK. Thanks Dennis Corbett

Hi Trevor, I discovered that the podcast download had saved itself in a temporary internet folder, all 14.2 MB! It is an MP3 file. Vivien From: "Trevor Smith" <[email protected]> > Not sure if you're aware that you should be able to save them to your PC > as well, to listen to later, or on the move via an MP3 player. It > depends on your browser, but in Netscape, just right-click on the link > for the one you want to listen to and click 'Save Link Target As...' > then choose where to save it.

Not sure if you're aware that you should be able to save them to your PC as well, to listen to later, or on the move via an MP3 player. It depends on your browser, but in Netscape, just right-click on the link for the one you want to listen to and click 'Save Link Target As...' then choose where to save it. Trevor. Mike Palmer wrote: >Paul, >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Many thanks for this! I was surprised to see that it worked on our computer >without needing any extra downloads. > >"Sex, Lies and Civil Registration" is a must for anyone who believes >everything that's written on a certificate! > >Vivien > >From: "Paul Prescott" <[email protected]> > > >>Forgive the cross-posting, but the response to this link has been very >> >> >positive since I originally posted it on the Black Country site, and I >thought it would be worth sharing with others. > > >>Many listers will know that The National Archives gives regular talks on >> >> >various aspects of family history at the PRO in Kew. Less well known is >that they're now available to replay online. Just go to >http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/rss/podcasts.xml. Very easy to listen >to, providing you've got broadband, I can particularly recommend "Sex, Lies >and Civil Registration", among others. > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >