A search of the 1871 Census for "Anna; born Worcestershire 1864 +/-2" produced 39 hits - none of whom had a surname that even vaguely resembled 'AYRIS'... [The closest was an Anna Maria HARRIS, 6, born Kidderminster, the youngest child of a widowed Ann HARRIS. (RG10/3033/27/380 - but frankly this seems unlikely to be yours.] Various possibilities: 1) she and her family emigrated before 1871; 2) she may have married as a widow; 3) her birth date may have been massaged... You really need to find her marriage and death - and hope that the information given on the certificates is true... Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Clements" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:27 AM Subject: [WOR] Anna AYRIS Anna married James Davies in Queensland Australia but I do not have the date. She was born in Worcestershire in 1864 but no further information is known. Is there any way I can find out more in that county about her. I am currently seeking her death certificate which may be of help. Many thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Merry Christmas to anyone around. So many thanks for the census checks - I was interested in James Tranter b. 1776 I do not know if anyone can do a Hanbury Parish look up for 1826 or round about for George Bishop. I would love to know his parents' names as this will be useful. I am tracing family history for my aunt - my grandfather was Albert Edward Bishop born 1901 in Malvern son of Albert Bishop b. 1875 Malvern and Alice Bishop b. 1876 Cradley (Herefordshire) (nee Gittens) - anyone with info about this family could they please contact me. I know most of the Gittens' line, but hardly anything about the Bishop family. Yours, Stephen Pain --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Hi John FreeBMD shows this birth: Births Dec 1863 Ayris Hannah Dudley 6c 140 Perhaps this is your "Anna"? Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Clements" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:27 AM Subject: [WOR] Anna AYRIS Anna married James Davies in Queensland Australia but I do not have the date. She was born in Worcestershire in 1864 but no further information is known. Is there any way I can find out more in that county about her. I am currently seeking her death certificate which may be of help. Many thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am researching the BLOUNT and BLUNT families. Henry Thomas BLUNT [b: 1885 in the Lye WOR] married Charlotte M. WHILE about January 1912. They had three children I know about - (1) Elsie 1912 (2) Francis 1920 (3) Dorothy 1924. This BLUNT family is descended from the Blunts of Old Swinford and I hope by making contact with their descendents I might find out more about the Old Swinford family especially Charles BLOUNT the Wheelwright [1655-1691] Anyone doing this family? Cyril

Here are some possible entries - 1841 census - Stoke Prior district (difficult to read but might be Frich End) not far from Hanbury - Male servant age 15 1851 census - Cradley, Hereford - Grocer/Hawker (widower) age 26 birthplace Hanbury. 1861 census - Worcester - Hawker - age 36 birthplace Droitwich with wife Jane and children (5) Images if required Roger >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:eng-worcester- >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Pain >Sent: 21 December 2007 10:15 >To: [email protected] >Subject: [WOR] Bishop families of Worcestershire: Hanbury > >I have one ancestor George Bishop born in 1826 in Hanbury - married later to Jane >Simmons and is in the various censuses. I have not access to the earlier censuses and >would like to know anything about his roots. Anyone who could help me - I think he is >in the 1841 census - and any records -parish look-ups or connections would be >helpful. > > Yours Stephen Pain > > >--------------------------------- >Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER- >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject >and the body of the message > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1192 - Release Date: 21/12/2007 13:17 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1192 - Release Date: 21/12/2007 13:17

Hello Stephen, What are "earlier" and "later" Censuses??? [It'd save folk looking for stuff you've already got...] The "Best Fits" in the 1841 and 1851 are: 1841 HO107/1203-9/37/[p7] WOR, Stoke Prior, Brick End [in h/o James TRANTER, '65', Brickmaker] George BISHOP, '15', M, M.S., Yes [Stoke Prior adjoins Hanbury; 'Brick End' was between Gambolds Farm and Lower Gambold, close to the Worc & Bham Canal.] 1851 HO107/1980/261/6 HEF, Cradley, Sherriffs George BISHOP, Head, W, 26, M, Grocer & Hawker, WOR Hambury [sic] No children listed with him. Wonder who his first wife was - and what'd happened to her..... Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Pain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:15 AM Subject: [WOR] Bishop families of Worcestershire: Hanbury I have one ancestor George Bishop born in 1826 in Hanbury - married later to Jane Simmons and is in the various censuses. I have not access to the earlier censuses and would like to know anything about his roots. Anyone who could help me - I think he is in the 1841 census - and any records -parish look-ups or connections would be helpful. Yours Stephen Pain --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Stephen, There was a Mary PAIN who married a William HANDS in 1784 in Feckenham. William may well be a second cousin 6 times removed......! mean anything to you Mike Yegwart Stephen Pain wrote: > I have one ancestor George Bishop born in 1826 in Hanbury - married later to Jane Simmons and is in the various censuses. I have not access to the earlier censuses and would like to know anything about his roots. Anyone who could help me - I think he is in the 1841 census - and any records -parish look-ups or connections would be helpful. > > Yours Stephen Pain > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have one ancestor George Bishop born in 1826 in Hanbury - married later to Jane Simmons and is in the various censuses. I have not access to the earlier censuses and would like to know anything about his roots. Anyone who could help me - I think he is in the 1841 census - and any records -parish look-ups or connections would be helpful. Yours Stephen Pain --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Hi All I would just like to send everyone best wishes for their Christmas and 2008, and share my online Christmas card with you, which is here: www.rowberry.org/xmas07.html Also if there are any people researching the names RUBERY or ROWBERRY out there (or one of the variants) then you might like to think about coming to the Family Gathering in April 2008. The programme is here: www.rowberry.org/2008.html Cheers! Polly Polly Rubery List admin: [email protected] A genealogy and local history list covering the Counties of Brecon, Hereford, Monmouth, Shropshire, Stafford and Worcester. [email protected] A genealogy and local history list covering the County of Hereford [email protected] ROWBERRY/RUBERY ONS - GOONS #278 [email protected] http://www.rowberry.org Webmaster for the Herefordshire Family History Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~ukhfhs/index.html

Hi Colin, On the 1861 census, Richard's place of birth is shown as Tardebigg,Worc. I can send you the image off-list if you're interested. Regards Malcolm Platt-Grigg.

Good morning from Australia, After finding a known ancestor Emanuel Jarvis and his family in 1841,51 and 81 censuses at Beoley (thanks to other subscribers) I have found a I G I entry for the baptism of a Mary Jarvis to Richard and Elizabeth Jarvis at Beoley 26th Nopvember,1856. It seems highly likely that Richard is another ancestor but I have no other details. Can anyone with 1851,61 or 71 censuses for Beoley please help with a lookup for Richard as his place of birth will prove if he is one of mine. There is another area where I would ask for advise.and this also relates to a I G I entry which shows the marriage of a Mary Jarvis to Thomas Aubit at Beoley 28th December,1755. Can anyone tell me how I can find the birth of Mary which could possibly lead to finding the parents of my gggggrandfather Thomas Jarvis who has presented me with a brick wall for almost 3 years. Any help much appreciated. Regards to all. Colin Jarvis.

Does anyone have knowledge of any CHILLINGWORTHs in the Kidderminster in the 1850s ? They may have connections to a brick making factory. Colin Lloyd Kidderminster

Just popping in to see if anyone in this area list is interested in the Geoghegan lot from anywhere at all! have 1200 documents of BMD for this name ONLY and variants some early enoUgh in Ireland to make your mouth water.. The early records did not all go up in smoke! Josi [email protected]

Hello Paula, For such a small and insignificant settlement, the old Borough of Droitwich's internal administrative areas were of a complexity that would've suited a VERY much larger and important city.... So I'll largely ignore it, andstart with Dodderhill, for that - at least - is comparatively simple. It was a large-for-the-County Parish, lying immediately to the North-East of the Borough Boundary, and was without any 'Central Point' that might've been named Dodderhill - even the Church (St Augustines) was tucked-away in a corner, with the churchyard on the boundary of the Borough. It comprised a number of scattered hamlets - some in 'detached portions' - as well as two (separated) contiguous portions and three detached parts that were INside the Borough Boundary. These five pieces were collectively known as "In Liberties", and they 'maintained their own poor' under the "old" Poor Law Acts. Marlborough is a little simpler - although in strict accuracy it was in two separate portions - "Marlborough" and "Marlborough (in the) Vines". It/they were Extra-Parochial Areas within Droitwich Borough. A large-scale Map would be of great assistance here to be able to ascertain just where all these bits'n'bobs were located - but to the best of my knowledge there is no such single map in existence that shows all their boundaries, for both In Liberties and Marlborough were abolished in 1884 (under the Divided Parishes Acts) - and the earliest large-scale Ordnance Survey Plans were published in 1885, showing only the new internal arrangements :-( But - broadly - the area you are interested in is the part of Droitwich to the North of the Canal. The Marlborough your ancestors were from is *probably* the tiny patch of land [say about 60 yards square] that's presently bounded: to the West - the Eastern edge of Dodderhill churchyard; to the South - the railway line; to the East - Bromsgrove Road ("the old A38"); to the North - an East-West line through the junction with Crutch Lane. But if they were in Marlborough Vines, then I'm unable to help other than suggesting that it was between Vines Lane and Dodderhill churchyard, and probably approximately centred on the footpath level crossing... *Reputedly* Marlborough's inhabitants were exempt from all forms of taxation - a very pretty thought, but that seems Extreme even for Droitwich :-) Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Goodfellow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 5:49 AM Subject: [WOR] Dodderhill, Droitwich, Marlborough and "In the Liberties" I've been reading the parish register for Dodderhill today, and I'm terribly confused by place names. I have old family records which refer to some of my ancestors living in Libbery, Droitwich, or Libbery, Dodderhill. I realize that this is probably "in the Liberties" . I also think that I understand correctly that if the entry in the parish register says "in the Liberties" it refers to a part of Dodderhill which is "In the Liberties" of Droitwich. Am I correct? Now the question here-- for one of the families I'm interested in the abode is listed as "The place called Marlborough" or "the place commonly called Marlborough". Anyone know why it doesn't just say "Marlborough"? And today, is Dodderhill a part of another town? And actually, another question-- is all of the area known as "In the LIberties" in Dodderhill? Or is part of that area also in the part of Droitwich that is not a part of Dodderhill? Thanks, Paula ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've been reading the parish register for Dodderhill today, and I'm terribly confused by place names. I have old family records which refer to some of my ancestors living in Libbery, Droitwich, or Libbery, Dodderhill. I realize that this is probably "in the Liberties" . I also think that I understand correctly that if the entry in the parish register says "in the Liberties" it refers to a part of Dodderhill which is "In the Liberties" of Droitwich. Am I correct? Now the question here-- for one of the families I'm interested in the abode is listed as "The place called Marlborough" or "the place commonly called Marlborough". Anyone know why it doesn't just say "Marlborough"? And today, is Dodderhill a part of another town? And actually, another question-- is all of the area known as "In the LIberties" in Dodderhill? Or is part of that area also in the part of Droitwich that is not a part of Dodderhill? Thanks, Paula

Hi Pete, Have you checked the census with KING, just in case the enumerator heard it wrong? In the 1851 there are 4 KING references and 8 KINGS. There are also KING and KINGS in Bromsgrove. If you visit Redditch library check out the "The Redditch & District Needlemaker's Almanac." They run from about 1885 to 1936. They give street addresses of the head of household. You might also just find them post 1926, I think, in the register of electors. That should include Phyllis in 1928. Good Luck [email protected] wrote: > I am currently researching our KINGS line. > > Edward James KINGS was born c1876 probably in the Redditch area. His father was James KINGS who we think married a lady with the name of (?Louisa) GIBSON. > > We have Edward's 2nd marriage in 1943 (age 67) but not the date of his presumed first, to Phyllis BURGESS (b1898) or any information as to where he was born. He died in 1950. He does not appear under these names on any English census which makes me wonder if he came over from Ireland or had cause to "live" away. > > We do know that Edward had a club foot (if that helps) and had worked for BSA at some time, before moving to the Bognor, Sussex area prior to 1929. > > Any information or leads would be most welcome. > Thank you. > Pete BUTTRESS. > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman BromsgroveBMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/

I am currently researching our KINGS line. Edward James KINGS was born c1876 probably in the Redditch area. His father was James KINGS who we think married a lady with the name of (?Louisa) GIBSON. We have Edward's 2nd marriage in 1943 (age 67) but not the date of his presumed first, to Phyllis BURGESS (b1898) or any information as to where he was born. He died in 1950. He does not appear under these names on any English census which makes me wonder if he came over from Ireland or had cause to "live" away. We do know that Edward had a club foot (if that helps) and had worked for BSA at some time, before moving to the Bognor, Sussex area prior to 1929. Any information or leads would be most welcome. Thank you. Pete BUTTRESS. ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

Hi Louise, As you don't say what years you are interested in it may help if you take at look at our branch website http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/Resources.htm Their are several institutions transcribed from the 1841 census. Please note however, they have not been verified, so please look at the original before putting in your tree. As for the record office it's currently on two sites. The county hall branch stores the original records, but many records have been filmed and are in the town centre. The link to the record office website is http://hub.whub.org.uk/home/wcc-records. Decide exactly what you need and then contact them to sort out where you best go. The staff are extremely friendly and knowledgeable. Parking, if going by car, is dreadful which ever you go to. There is a Park and Ride scheme for the town centre, which I would recommend. Train to the town centre would also work well. There you will also find the BMSGH Worcestershire Marriage Index from 1660 to 1837, which has virtually every marriage in the county in it. It is not available on-line or on CD. The only other set of books is at the BMSGH library in Birmingham. Although there is a postal look up service. Good luck Louise Oliver wrote: > Dear List > > Has anyone had any experience of visiting the County Records Office? I > am planning a visit next spring and would value any tips or > experiences. I will be particularly interested in Workhouse > (kidderminster) prison (worcester) and Asylum (powick) records. > > Thank you > > Louise > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman BromsgroveBMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/

Hi Louise I did some research on my grandmother's Powick asylum records, and you need to be aware that many of the records are kept off-site in storage in Gloucestershire. When I was planning a trip I had to request the records i was after and it took about two weeks for them to be available to view at the County Record Office. I would imagine other records may well be the same, so make sure you contact the office well in advance. I phoned, and confirmed by email, what I wanted to view. Best wishes, Steve Researching ROSE in Halesowen, DAVENPORT in Belbroughton, Bromsgrove & Halesowen, GUISE in Worcestershire, CULLEN in Somerset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Oliver" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:55 AM Subject: [WOR] Worcester Records Office > Dear List > > Has anyone had any experience of visiting the County Records Office? I > am planning a visit next spring and would value any tips or > experiences. I will be particularly interested in Workhouse > (kidderminster) prison (worcester) and Asylum (powick) records. > > Thank you > > Louise > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dear All Anyone else looking for OLIVER CRAN(N)AGE BLACK PARKES? Louise