Looks like you're right Wendy! 1851 Shelsey Beauchamp, at 47 Southwood: William BOWKETT head 49 Farm labourer born Martley, WOR Ann " wife 44 also " " born Collinston? HEF (should be Collington??) Children Hannah 15 Maria 12 Thomas 8 James 3 all born Martley Viv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 4:09 PM Subject: [WOR] BOWKETT > Wonder if anyone else is researching the BOWKETT family? I have a Thomas Bowkett born 1843 in Shelsey. His parents may have been William and Ann but I haven't proved it yet. Please does SKS have the 1851 census for Shelsey so I could see the family at that time, or a record of baptisms for 1843 in Selsey? > many thanks for any help > Wendy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wonder if anyone else is researching the BOWKETT family? I have a Thomas Bowkett born 1843 in Shelsey. His parents may have been William and Ann but I haven't proved it yet. Please does SKS have the 1851 census for Shelsey so I could see the family at that time, or a record of baptisms for 1843 in Selsey? many thanks for any help Wendy

TERRY DIPPLE wrote: > Listers - has anyone any practical knowledge of how much detail would have > been on a Worcestershire marriage cert in 1784? There were no marriage certifcates at that time. Typically, just the name of the bride and the groom with the date, whether it was by banns or licence and the names of the witnesses and that was it, no occupations, no fathers names or occupations, as per the following example: The Revd Christopher Whitehead of Bolton in the County Palatine of Lancaster and Mary Baily otp Married 28 January 1784 by Licence Wit: Frances Baily, William House <all parties signed> paid 3d The 3d was a tax that had to be paid on all baptisms, burials and marriages. It lasted for about 10 years. The very poor were exempt.

Listers - has anyone any practical knowledge of how much detail would have been on a Worcestershire marriage cert in 1784? Thanks in advance - Terry

On the Late Night Extravaganza, this coming Sunday, Keith Middleton will be joined by Professional Genealogist, Anthony Adolph, who is the resident genealogist from Genes Reunited and several TV programmes, He will be looking at issues associated with starting your family tree and overcoming brick walls generally as well as, tracing Irish Ancestors specifically. They will look at how the internet can connect you with your ancestors and answering any queries you want to discuss. It is not often that you get a chance to ask a professional genealogist for help so, make the most of this opportunity... This phone in is always very busy and often some people are left disappointed so, if you would like to speak with Anthony Adolph, email Keith now ([email protected]) and get your name and phone number down early then, make sure you tune in this Sunday and are ready for that call! Anthony Adolph will be followed by all of the regular features - Les at Eleven, I'm Desperate Dan and ending up Down the Vault... So, make sure you tune in/log on to Keith from 10pm to 1am (GMT), this Sunday 3rd February... LISTEN... To listen to BBC Shropshire go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/radioshropshire/ and click on the LISTEN LIVE button. Or listen via 96fm and DAB radio To listen to BBC Stoke go to 94.6 and 104.1fm and DAB radio To listen to BBC Hereford & Worcester go to 104, 104.9, 94.7fm and 738, 1584 mw CONTACT... To phone - +44 (0)845 303 9303 To text - + 44 (0)778 620 0096 To email - [email protected] More info - www.keithmiddleton.com LISTEN AGAIN... ... and if you miss an Extravaganza, you can now catch it on the Listen Again feature on the BBC Shropshire website; all you have to do is log on to http://www.bbc.co.uk/shropshire/local_radio/index.shtml then, click on 'Listen Again'. Look for 'Late Show - Keith Middleton' and select either 'Sat' or 'Sun' depending on which programme you want... (Until 10pm on Saturday 2nd Feb, you can listen again to the Dennis Locorriere Interview; Until 10pm on Sunday 3rd Feb, you can hear Astrologer Extraordinaire, John Starkey and his predictions for us for February... You will be able to hear 80's legend, Paul Young on the Listen Again feature (from 1am on Sun 3rd Feb to 10pm on Sat 9th Feb) and Genealogist, Anthony Adolph on the Listen Again feature (from 1am on Monday 4th Feb until 10pm on Sun 10th Feb)) Enjoy!

Hi In my family I have a John Pritchard who married Elizabeth Dudley in St. Mary's Church, Kidderminster on 31 May 1830. I found this on familysearch.com but I`m not able to view the film. Can anyone give me any ideas on how else I may get around my problem? Regards Jan in Oz

Hello Jan, If you're asking for a lookup and transcript of the Parish Register entry - for this is an Extracted Entry on the IGI - I could do that on my next visit to Worcester history centre if it would help. Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Pritchard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: [WOR] Pritchard and Dudley Marriage Hi In my family I have a John Pritchard who married Elizabeth Dudley in St. Mary's Church, Kidderminster on 31 May 1830. I found this on familysearch.com but I`m not able to view the film. Can anyone give me any ideas on how else I may get around my problem? Regards Jan in Oz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am going to try again to resolve a huge loose end. I am trying to find out anything about Adelaide Sarah Heriot Figes b in Worcester in 1832. She married Samuel Lake in 1849. From her marriage Cert her father was Francis Figes. I am completely stuck here and thought maybe just maybe this group could help. Gus has already been to the local records office and was not able to come up with any Adelaide Sarah Heriot Figes or any Francis Figes for that matter. She was on the stage later in life and so was her father - so I am concerned she was just transient in Worcester and maybe didn't register her birth. Anyone tracking this name or anyone have any wonderful ideas. Thanks

I have learned that the PCC at St Barnabas, Drakes Broughton wish to move two grave stones to facilitate the building of an extension. The graves in question are those of: 1. John WHITE, died Sept 10, 1870 aged 78, late of Cheltenham 2. Thomas WESTWOOD aged 60, died Jan 16th 1875 Does anyone on the list know of any present day descendants of these people? If so please respond off list. Alternatively, can anyone recommend a straightforward way of locating such descendants? Thanks Peter

Hi Listers Well, one thing's for sure. I'm glad I'm getting my sleep in the C21. Information from Gus and John about bedlinen made from nettles and oakum does not appeal at all. Maybe there was a sliding scale in the 1500s, your popularity as a guest ensuring (or not) that you had the least scratchy sheets. I'm grateful for Gus and John's replies. Kind regards Joy

I can check genesreunited later today to see if they are in anyone's trees. Paula On Jan 26, 2008, at 6:31 AM, D&P Veasey wrote: > I have learned that the PCC at St Barnabas, Drakes Broughton wish to > move two grave stones to facilitate the building of an extension. > The graves in question are those of: > 1. John WHITE, died Sept 10, 1870 aged 78, late of Cheltenham > 2. Thomas WESTWOOD aged 60, died Jan 16th 1875 > Does anyone on the list know of any present day descendants of these > people? If so please respond off list. Alternatively, can anyone > recommend a straightforward way of locating such descendants? > > Thanks > Peter > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Worcestershire Record Office have organised a Local History Fair on Saturday 23rd February at Kidderminster Town Hall. It will run between 10am and 4pm and is free admission. There should be the opportunity to look at some of the rooms in the Town Hall too. Any enquiries about the event please contact myself on [email protected] Participants will include: Badsey Society Battle of Worcester Society Bewdley Historical Research Group Bewdley Museum, Friends of Bordesley Historical Society Carpet Archives Centre Chaddesley Corbet LHS Clent History Society County Museum, Hartlebury, including their Mobile Museum Discover History Droitwich Historical & Archaeological Society Feckenham Forest Historical Society Hurd Library, Friends of Hagley Historical & Field Society Kidderminster & District Archaeological & Historical Society Kidderminster Civic Society Pershore Heritage and Historical Society Shrawley & District Local History society Stourport on Severn Civic Society WEA Wolverley & Cookley Historical Society Worcester Group Milestone Society Worcester Re-enactors Worcestershire Archaeological Society Worcestershire Industrial Archaeology & Local History Society Worcestershire Historic Environment & Archaeological Service Worcestershire Record Office Worcestershire Record Office, Friends of Worcestershire Regimental Museum Wyre Forest Research Group Regards, Paul Hudson ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul Hudson Head of Worcestershire History Centre Worcestershire History Centre Trinity Street Worcester WR1 2PW (01905) 765922 [email protected] http://www.worcestershire.gov.uk/records 'Worcestershire Record Office - Celebrating 60 Years of Preserving and Promoting 900 Years of Worcestershire History'. Please see our website for further details. ********************************************************************** Confidentiality Notice This message and any attachments are private and confidential and may be subject to legal privilege and copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please do not publish or copy it to anyone else. Please contact us by using the reply facility in your email software and then remove it from your system. Disclaimer Although this email and attachments have been scanned for viruses and malware, Worcestershire County Council accepts no liability for any loss or damage arising from the receipt or use of this communication. Monitoring of Email Worcestershire County Council may monitor traffic data and the content of email for lawful business purposes. **********************************************************************

i am searching for my greatgrandfathers family. my greatgrandfather was thomas evans born 1840 in worcester. his mother died when he was a child and he was brought up by an aunt. in the 1851 census they are down as follows. tha surname should be lythall. worcester st martins . mary littrel 74 head ellen littrel 40 single charles 7 jane 7 walter 11 ellen was walters aunt his late mothers sister.his mother being mary lythall before her marriage to thomas evans. does anybody know of the lythall family please.were jane and charles ellens or were they brother and sister to walter. as he had a sister selina . thank you.

Hi John, So hurden's lowest-quality, then (as I'd rather suspected). "Oakum" it is, then. And "Picking Oakum" being a Naval punishment, producing (with a fair amount of effort) a crude sort of packing-material "fray" out of Old Rope. I'd've not thought it'd've been all that readily spinnable into any sort of Yarn - but then our Ancestors were pretty good at "Making Do and Mending".... FAR - far - better than their descendants at "recycling"! Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "johnlake" <[email protected]> To: "'Gus Tysoe'" <[email protected]>; "'Joy Hungerford'" <[email protected]>; "'WOR'" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:01 PM Subject: RE: [WOR] YARNOLD - Bedlinen in 1500s Quick search fo Google gives: Harden, hurden, hardine - rough hemp or linen cloth (made from hurds, oakum, tow) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gus Tysoe Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:59 AM To: Joy Hungerford; WOR Subject: Re: [WOR] YARNOLD - Bedlinen in 1500s Hi Joy, All I can offer is Hempen for hempton Linen for flaxen and a wild guess of Nettle for hurden :-) [Stinging-nettle fabric is both hard and hard-wearing!] Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Hungerford" <[email protected]> To: "WOR" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: [WOR] YARNOLD - Bedlinen in 1500s Hi Listers Looking again at some YARNOLD Wills, I find I'm a bit confused about the description of bedlinen. A 12GGA, Alice, is leaving various items to her children in 1588 and specifies pairs of 'hempton shetes, hurden shetes and flaxen shetes'. A variety of these is bequeathed to sons and daughters (along with a best and a second best feather bedde). Can somebody please explain the difference, please? I take it to mean that the flaxen ones are the best quality, the 'hempton' ones possibly less special and the hurden ('to harden') ones pretty grim. What do you think? BTW, if anyone is researching these names, I'd be delighted to hear from them:- YARNOLD, STOKES (four lines), NOTT, WOODWARD, LINTON also JONES and EVANS, although I need to boost my strength for those!!! Kind regards Joy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joy, All I can offer is Hempen for hempton Linen for flaxen and a wild guess of Nettle for hurden :-) [Stinging-nettle fabric is both hard and hard-wearing!] Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Hungerford" <[email protected]> To: "WOR" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: [WOR] YARNOLD - Bedlinen in 1500s Hi Listers Looking again at some YARNOLD Wills, I find I'm a bit confused about the description of bedlinen. A 12GGA, Alice, is leaving various items to her children in 1588 and specifies pairs of 'hempton shetes, hurden shetes and flaxen shetes'. A variety of these is bequeathed to sons and daughters (along with a best and a second best feather bedde). Can somebody please explain the difference, please? I take it to mean that the flaxen ones are the best quality, the 'hempton' ones possibly less special and the hurden ('to harden') ones pretty grim. What do you think? BTW, if anyone is researching these names, I'd be delighted to hear from them:- YARNOLD, STOKES (four lines), NOTT, WOODWARD, LINTON also JONES and EVANS, although I need to boost my strength for those!!! Kind regards Joy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes they are, Mike. My ancestor was Emma MAIDEN (1822-1851) the elder sister of Joseph MAIDEN (b 1824) who became landlord of the Mitre Oak. She married Samson MEREDITH in 1846. Cheers Roger (north Shropshire) >----Original Message---- >From: [email protected] >Date: 24/01/2008 12:37 >To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> >Subj: Re: [WOR] interest list; MAIDEN, MAYALL,WRIGHT, BEST, MEREDITH > >Hi Roger > >Are your Maiden's related to the to the Maiden's who ran the Mitre Oak pub > >Mike Fisher in Droitwich > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:14 AM >Subject: [WOR] interest list; MAIDEN, MAYALL,WRIGHT, BEST, MEREDITH > > >> Is anyone else researching these families? >> >> MAIDEN, pre 1860 Hartlebury, pre 1800 Elmbridge / Elmley Lovett areas >> MAYALL, pre 1860 Hartlebury, pre 1800 Ribbesford or elsewhere >> WRIGHT, pre 1900 Elmley Lovett, pre 1840 Chaddesley Corbett >> BEST, pre 1800 Hartlebury/Ombersley >> MEREDITH, 1840s Hartlebury before that possibly Herefordshire or >> Wolverhampton >> >> Would be interested to hear if you are >> >> Cheers >> >> Roger Jones >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Get up to £150 by recycling your old mobile - visit >> www.tiscali.co.uk/recycle >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1236 - Release Date: 21/01/2008 >20:23 > > __________________________________________________ Get up to £150 by recycling your old mobile - visit www.tiscali.co.uk/recycle

Yes, It seems so, sorry about that but theres alot of us around. Dont suppose we have the same research interests though. Cheers Roger,(Shropshire) >----Original Message---- >From: [email protected] >Date: 24/01/2008 12:26 >To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> >Subj: RE: [WOR] interest list; MAIDEN, MAYALL,WRIGHT, BEST, MEREDITH > >Oh no! Two Roger Jones on the Worcestershire list ... how confusing. >Regards >Roger Jones >Walsall > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:eng-worcester- > >[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > >Sent: 22 January 2008 11:15 > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [WOR] interest list; MAIDEN, MAYALL,WRIGHT, BEST, MEREDITH > > > >Is anyone else researching these families? > > > >MAIDEN, pre 1860 Hartlebury, pre 1800 Elmbridge / Elmley Lovett areas > >MAYALL, pre 1860 Hartlebury, pre 1800 Ribbesford or elsewhere > >WRIGHT, pre 1900 Elmley Lovett, pre 1840 Chaddesley Corbett > >BEST, pre 1800 Hartlebury/Ombersley > >MEREDITH, 1840s Hartlebury before that possibly Herefordshire or > >Wolverhampton > > > >Would be interested to hear if you are > > > >Cheers > > > >Roger Jones > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Get up to £150 by recycling your old mobile - visit >www.tiscali.co.uk/recycle > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG- WORCESTER- > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject > >and the body of the message > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: >23/01/2008 > >17:47 > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 23/01/2008 >17:47 > > > > __________________________________________________ Get up to £150 by recycling your old mobile - visit www.tiscali.co.uk/recycle

Hi Listers Looking again at some YARNOLD Wills, I find I'm a bit confused about the description of bedlinen. A 12GGA, Alice, is leaving various items to her children in 1588 and specifies pairs of 'hempton shetes, hurden shetes and flaxen shetes'. A variety of these is bequeathed to sons and daughters (along with a best and a second best feather bedde). Can somebody please explain the difference, please? I take it to mean that the flaxen ones are the best quality, the 'hempton' ones possibly less special and the hurden ('to harden') ones pretty grim. What do you think? BTW, if anyone is researching these names, I'd be delighted to hear from them:- YARNOLD, STOKES (four lines), NOTT, WOODWARD, LINTON also JONES and EVANS, although I need to boost my strength for those!!! Kind regards Joy

Hi Roger Are your Maiden's related to the to the Maiden's who ran the Mitre Oak pub Mike Fisher in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: [WOR] interest list; MAIDEN, MAYALL,WRIGHT, BEST, MEREDITH > Is anyone else researching these families? > > MAIDEN, pre 1860 Hartlebury, pre 1800 Elmbridge / Elmley Lovett areas > MAYALL, pre 1860 Hartlebury, pre 1800 Ribbesford or elsewhere > WRIGHT, pre 1900 Elmley Lovett, pre 1840 Chaddesley Corbett > BEST, pre 1800 Hartlebury/Ombersley > MEREDITH, 1840s Hartlebury before that possibly Herefordshire or > Wolverhampton > > Would be interested to hear if you are > > Cheers > > Roger Jones > > > > __________________________________________________ > Get up to £150 by recycling your old mobile - visit > www.tiscali.co.uk/recycle > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1236 - Release Date: 21/01/2008 20:23

Oh no! Two Roger Jones on the Worcestershire list ... how confusing. Regards Roger Jones Walsall >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:eng-worcester- >[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] >Sent: 22 January 2008 11:15 >To: [email protected] >Subject: [WOR] interest list; MAIDEN, MAYALL,WRIGHT, BEST, MEREDITH > >Is anyone else researching these families? > >MAIDEN, pre 1860 Hartlebury, pre 1800 Elmbridge / Elmley Lovett areas >MAYALL, pre 1860 Hartlebury, pre 1800 Ribbesford or elsewhere >WRIGHT, pre 1900 Elmley Lovett, pre 1840 Chaddesley Corbett >BEST, pre 1800 Hartlebury/Ombersley >MEREDITH, 1840s Hartlebury before that possibly Herefordshire or >Wolverhampton > >Would be interested to hear if you are > >Cheers > >Roger Jones > > > >__________________________________________________ >Get up to £150 by recycling your old mobile - visit www.tiscali.co.uk/recycle > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WORCESTER- >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject >and the body of the message > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 23/01/2008 >17:47 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 23/01/2008 17:47