Susie, Firstly I think from information I have received that the marriage may have been to TURVEY not Turey and the marriage date was 1793 not 1783 (ah well nobody is perfect). There clearly is a Bentley connection somewhere as time and time again the forename to a Hatton is Bentley. This from the burials in Pershore goes back well into the late 17th. Century, and continues into the 20th. The reverse does not seem to happen. I would be most interested in any Bentley/Hatton connections that you come across in Pershore or Wick Best wishes. Don I don't have any info on your particular John HATTON. However, in researching my BENTLEY family from Pershore in the late 1600s, early 1700s I've got a couple of references to HATTON - if you find a tie-in to the BENTLEY family let me know. Susie > > Message: 2> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:35:32 -0000> From: "Donald Groves" <[email protected]>> Subject: [WOR] Re Pershore Baptisms and John Hatton> To: <[email protected]>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Hello,> > I am trying to trace the baptism (and of course parents) of John Hatton who> was born about 1762 in Pershore. He married a Sarah Turey in 1783 at Holy> Cross, Pershore.> > Any information, at all, would be most gratefully received.> > Thank you.> > Don Groves in West Wales.> > > >

Helen - thanks for this info. It looks very promising. Give my regards to all my acquaintances in NZ. Regards - Terry (ex Shaw-Saville) -----Original Message----- From: Helen Verrall [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:41 AM To: 'TERRY DIPPLE'; [email protected] Subject: RE: [WOR] Ribbesford parish records Terry Some of Ribbesford's records are published on the British Vital Records Index , [published by L D S ) Baptisms and Marriages . I f you are looking for DIPPLE these are the Baptisms listed . DIPPELE, James Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 22 Mar 1720 Christening Date: 17 Apr 1721 Recorded in: Ribbesford, Worcestershire, England Father: Roger DIPPELE Mother: Elizabeth Source: FHL Film 992393 Dates: 1696 - 1773 DIPPLE, William Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 16 Dec 1749 Recorded in: Ribbesford, Worcestershire, England Father: Joseph DIPPLE Mother: Mary Source: FHL Film 992393 Dates: 1696 - 1773 DIPPLE, William Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 2 Mar 1756 Recorded in: Ribbesford, Worcestershire, England Father: James DIPPLE Mother: Sarah Source: FHL Film 992393 Dates: 1696 - 1773 All the best Helen New Zealand I am happy to search for other names /events for you -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TERRY DIPPLE Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [WOR] Ribbesford parish records Listers - done anyone know if the above are around on a CD/on-line? The period I'm interested in are the mid 1700's. Thanks - Terry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Listers - done anyone know if the above are around on a CD/on-line? The period I'm interested in are the mid 1700's. Thanks - Terry

Dan, I don't have any info on your particular John HATTON. However, in researching my BENTLEY family from Pershore in the late 1600s, early 1700s I've got a couple of references to HATTON - if you find a tie-in to the BENTLEY family let me know. Susie > > Message: 2> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:35:32 -0000> From: "Donald Groves" <[email protected]>> Subject: [WOR] Re Pershore Baptisms and John Hatton> To: <[email protected]>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Hello,> > I am trying to trace the baptism (and of course parents) of John Hatton who> was born about 1762 in Pershore. He married a Sarah Turey in 1783 at Holy> Cross, Pershore.> > Any information, at all, would be most gratefully received.> > Thank you.> > Don Groves in West Wales.> > > > ------------------------------> _________________________________________________________________ Telly addicts unite! http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml

Ann Further to my earlier Mail - Have found the following in 1841 Census ! 1841 England Census about Alexander Pratt Name: Alexander Pratt Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786 Gender: Male Civil Parish: Tardebigg Hundred: Halfshire (Upper Division) County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: View Image Registration district: Bromsgrove Sub-registration district: Tardebigg Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alexander Pratt 55 Elizabeth Pratt 50 John Pratt 25 All the Best Helen New Zealand

Ann I found in the British Vital Records Cd's ( supplement to IGI )the following PRATT, Thomas Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 2 Jan 1783 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha Source: FHL Film 1042160 Dates: 1782 - 1812 PRATT, Alexander Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 4 Nov 1784 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha Source: FHL Film 1042160 Dates: 1782 - 1812 PRATT, Richard Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 28 Dec 1786 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha Source: FHL Film 1042160 Dates: 1782 - 1812 PRATT, Benjamin Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 2 Jun 1789 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha Source: FHL Film 1042160 Dates: 1782 - 1812 PRATT, Jane Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 25 Sep 1791 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha PRATT, George Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 4 Jan 1794 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha PRATT, Job Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 24 May 1795 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha Source: FHL Film 1042160 Dates: 1782 - 1812 PRATT, Mary Ann Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 30 Apr 1797 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha Source: FHL Film 1042160 Dates: 1782 - 1812 Found the following of the children in 1851 Census. HO107 /2047 Folio 508 District Bromsgrove Sub District Belbroughton /Hagley Township Clent Sched 071 Thicknall Farm PRATT Edward Head M 64 Farmer- 300 acres emp 3 men Born Clent/WOR Susan Wife M 54 " Pedmore/WOR MORRIS Hannah Serv U 23 Born Inkberrow/WOR George " U 28 Groom Brn Rock/WOR HO107/2042 Folio 305 District Worcester Sched 016 Doldy PRATT Job Head M 62 Milkman Born Clent/WOR Letitia Wife M 44 Born Claines/WOR William Son U 11 Scholar Born All Saints/WOR Agnes Dau U 9 " " " Mary A " U 5 " " " HO107/2045 Folio 249 Pershore Parish Holy Cross Sched 127 High Street PRATT Benjamin Head W 66 Retired Surgeon & Apothecary Born Clent / WOR Barbara Daug U 22 Dau At home Born Pershore/WOR RUSHER Barbara M G/dau U 2 Born Pershore/WOR VEALE Mary Ser U 14 House Servant Born Upton Snodsbury/WOR There is also a NATHAN PRATT aged 49 a Miller living in Clent, but could not locate a Baptism for him , to confirm he was a son of John and Martha. All the Best Helen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ann Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:11 AM To: Pratt ( Mailing List); Worcester List Subject: [WOR] UK Pratts I have a JOHN PRATT who married a MARTHA BOFFEY in Broome ,Worcester in 1778,I cant find anything else on either party. I feel they stayed in Worcester as I have a record of two children, one born in Clent.Unless I have missed it they are not in the UK IGI records. Anybody know them please ? Ann ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are a lovely lot on here. I now know that John and Martha had a lot more children than I had got. Its Benjamin, the Surgeon who is mine. My mothers Great Grandfather, Charles Smith Green, married Amelia Pratt who was one of Benjamin's many children.Charles was a vet so the medical connection was on that side as well.Thanks again for you help. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen Verrall To: 'Ann' ; 'Pratt ( Mailing List)' ; 'Worcester List' Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:33 AM Subject: RE: [WOR] UK Pratts Ann I found in the British Vital Records Cd's ( supplement to IGI )the following PRATT, Thomas Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 2 Jan 1783 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha Source: FHL Film 1042160 Dates: 1782 - 1812 PRATT, Alexander Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 4 Nov 1784 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha Source: FHL Film 1042160 Dates: 1782 - 1812 PRATT, Richard Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 28 Dec 1786 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha Source: FHL Film 1042160 Dates: 1782 - 1812 PRATT, Benjamin Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 2 Jun 1789 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha Source: FHL Film 1042160 Dates: 1782 - 1812 PRATT, Jane Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 25 Sep 1791 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha PRATT, George Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 4 Jan 1794 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha PRATT, Job Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 24 May 1795 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha Source: FHL Film 1042160 Dates: 1782 - 1812 PRATT, Mary Ann Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 30 Apr 1797 Recorded in: Clent, Worcestershire, England Father: John PRATT Mother: Martha Source: FHL Film 1042160 Dates: 1782 - 1812 Found the following of the children in 1851 Census. HO107 /2047 Folio 508 District Bromsgrove Sub District Belbroughton /Hagley Township Clent Sched 071 Thicknall Farm PRATT Edward Head M 64 Farmer- 300 acres emp 3 men Born Clent/WOR Susan Wife M 54 " Pedmore/WOR MORRIS Hannah Serv U 23 Born Inkberrow/WOR George " U 28 Groom Brn Rock/WOR HO107/2042 Folio 305 District Worcester Sched 016 Doldy PRATT Job Head M 62 Milkman Born Clent/WOR Letitia Wife M 44 Born Claines/WOR William Son U 11 Scholar Born All Saints/WOR Agnes Dau U 9 " " " Mary A " U 5 " " " HO107/2045 Folio 249 Pershore Parish Holy Cross Sched 127 High Street PRATT Benjamin Head W 66 Retired Surgeon & Apothecary Born Clent / WOR Barbara Daug U 22 Dau At home Born Pershore/WOR RUSHER Barbara M G/dau U 2 Born Pershore/WOR VEALE Mary Ser U 14 House Servant Born Upton Snodsbury/WOR There is also a NATHAN PRATT aged 49 a Miller living in Clent, but could not locate a Baptism for him , to confirm he was a son of John and Martha. All the Best Helen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ann Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:11 AM To: Pratt ( Mailing List); Worcester List Subject: [WOR] UK Pratts I have a JOHN PRATT who married a MARTHA BOFFEY in Broome ,Worcester in 1778,I cant find anything else on either party. I feel they stayed in Worcester as I have a record of two children, one born in Clent.Unless I have missed it they are not in the UK IGI records. Anybody know them please ? Ann ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Sue, I have Eliza Prossor (1836-1868) married Herbert Richardson 10 July 1856. lived at Russel Terrace St Clements. She was the dau of a tailoring family where herbert did his tailoring apprenticeship. They had four children that I know of! Eliza 1858-1875. Herbert William. 1860-1949. Charles 1862. Frederick. 1866. John ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "gene ology" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] associated surnames > On 24 Feb, gene ology <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello >> I am helping a friend to research the STEED family tree >> descending from >> Thomas STEED 1760 Mathon married . 1783 Colwall >> Elizabeth Mason 1755 Colwell >> >> STEED Associated . surnames Worcestershire & Herefordshire >> MASON PERKINS JENKINS NIBLET GATEHOUSE REED ROWLEY >> AUSTIN TURNER SUMMERS REED STALLARD BOUGH JONES >> BOWKETT RICE PROSSER PLANTAGENET EACRE MILES MILLER >> would be grateful for any help >> Sue > > Hi Sue > > My great uncle Fred GOODES married Lydia NIBLETT in the late 1920s. I have > the NIBLETTs in Birmingham back 2 generations from Lydia, but have yet to > find where they came from. Perhaps they came from Worcestershire. Can you > give me any leads on this? > > Cheers > > -- > Chris Pampling > > researching: > > > > BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, > MAHER > > all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day > > PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present > > VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Viv, > Was there any history of a military presence locally? Although this does look rather small. Not to my knowledge - either Ancient or Modern... Nothing on the OS Roman Britain, and while there just *may* have been overnight bivouacs there in any or all of the various Barons Wars, Wars of the Roses, or Civil War. Later than that, about the only likely Military Activity would be the 18C County Militia - although again the (still only presumed) location seems most improbable. It's possible that the Victoria County History may have the answer. Nominally available OnLine at < http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ > this somewhat compex site is acting-up again this morning, and while I can reach the Index giving Cotheridge, trying to open it freezes my computer! [You need to scroll down to see the results of every selection - it looks as if nothing's happened - but this should get you there...] [Home Page] - By Region - Midlands Victoria County History - Worcestershire Volume 4 Cotheridge and you (should) get a digitised version of the Original. > Around here (next to Aldershot) "The Camp" would mean where troops had been stationed. Around here, too - although the bulk were built in WW2, and have largely disappeared by now Gus from Gus: And "The Camp" at Cotheridge in 1841 is shown as comprising 3 "inhabited houses", and the inhabitants whose occupations are shown were Ag Lab, Carpenter and Pauper - which at least gives the impression of being some sort of permanent settlement.

Hi: I have many MUNNs from Cotheridge on my family tree, going back to early 1600s. I also have a smattering of BOWENs and HUNDLEYs. Of my 9 William MUNNs, only one married a Martha: William MUNN married Martha EVANS October 23, 1804 St Clements Worcester. Contact me offline and we can exchange further information. Regards, Gerry Wood On 24-Feb-08, at 4:31 PM, M Howes wrote: > Hello List again, I am actively watching, it is fascinating (1841 > census Cotheridge) - "The Camp" The Munns - seem to have been > farmers in the area - we are looking at Munn/Lilly/Starry/Anthony/ > Bowen/Hundley. Seems to be heading Shropshire direction to Bedstone > --- !!! Thank you everyone that has bothered to answer, I am > really looking for a Martha married to a William Munn - found in > will of Mary Anthony of Cotheridge 1814 - need to find a Munn/ > Anthony connection before I die!!!! DH. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Everyone, I'm trying to find proof of the parents of Thomas Lane my 3 x gt grandfather. It is probable that he was born at Suckley in 1737 to a Richard Lane and Susanna (nee ? ). If so was this the same Richard Lane that had been married a Margaret Finch of Suckley in 1719. They had 2 children then there was a gap in the Church records until the Baptism of Thomas Lane in 1737, followed by a sister 1739 to a Richard and Susanna Lane. Thomas married at Alfrick to a Mary smith of Lulsey in 1762. Their first 2 children were Baptised at Alfrick whilst a further 9 were Baptised at Suckley. I would love to hear from someone who may have an interest in this branch of the Lane family, or someone that may have some knowledge to help me further piece things together. Thankyou, Chris from OZ

Hello List again, I am actively watching, it is fascinating (1841 census Cotheridge) - "The Camp" The Munns - seem to have been farmers in the area - we are looking at Munn/Lilly/Starry/Anthony/Bowen/Hundley. Seems to be heading Shropshire direction to Bedstone --- !!! Thank you everyone that has bothered to answer, I am really looking for a Martha married to a William Munn - found in will of Mary Anthony of Cotheridge 1814 - need to find a Munn/Anthony connection before I die!!!! DH.

On 24 Feb, gene ology <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello > I am helping a friend to research the STEED family tree > descending from > Thomas STEED 1760 Mathon married . 1783 Colwall > Elizabeth Mason 1755 Colwell > > STEED Associated . surnames Worcestershire & Herefordshire > MASON PERKINS JENKINS NIBLET GATEHOUSE REED ROWLEY > AUSTIN TURNER SUMMERS REED STALLARD BOUGH JONES > BOWKETT RICE PROSSER PLANTAGENET EACRE MILES MILLER > would be grateful for any help > Sue Hi Sue My great uncle Fred GOODES married Lydia NIBLETT in the late 1920s. I have the NIBLETTs in Birmingham back 2 generations from Lydia, but have yet to find where they came from. Perhaps they came from Worcestershire. Can you give me any leads on this? Cheers -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

Was there any history of a military presence locally? Although this does look rather small. Around here (next to Aldershot) "The Camp" would mean where troops had been stationed. Viv from Gus: And "The Camp" at Cotheridge in 1841 is shown as comprising 3 "inhabited houses", and the inhabitants whose occupations are shown were Ag Lab, Carpenter and Pauper - which at least gives the impression of being some sort of permanent settlement.

Hello I am helping a friend to research the STEED family tree descending from Thomas STEED 1760 Mathon married . 1783 Colwall Elizabeth Mason 1755 Colwell STEED Associated . surnames Worcestershire & Herefordshire MASON PERKINS JENKINS NIBLET GATEHOUSE REED ROWLEY AUSTIN TURNER SUMMERS REED STALLARD BOUGH JONES BOWKETT RICE PROSSER PLANTAGENET EACRE MILES MILLER would be grateful for any help Sue --------------------------------- Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox.

I have a JOHN PRATT who married a MARTHA BOFFEY in Broome ,Worcester in 1778,I cant find anything else on either party. I feel they stayed in Worcester as I have a record of two children, one born in Clent.Unless I have missed it they are not in the UK IGI records. Anybody know them please ? Ann

Gus, silly thought but could it have been a gipsy camp? or were they not entered in the Census. Ann Not a silly thought at all - I don't know what the 1841 requirements were for recording "transients", but I rather imagine they would've been omitted. >From 1851 on they were usually only recorded in the summary pages as 'transients' or similar, and as totals only, with entries such as "slept in Barn - 3" or "Railway Constructors in Huts". OTOH, I have come across a "Gypsy Encampment" in Redditch, where the 'addresses' are given as "Tent No 1" &c [HO107/2047/fo756 - but without a schedule no] but this is the only group I've ever noted... And "The Camp" at Cotheridge in 1841 is shown as comprising 3 "inhabited houses", and the inhabitants whose occupations are shown were Ag Lab, Carpenter and Pauper - which at least gives the impression of being some sort of permanent settlement. Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: Gus Tysoe To: M Howes ; [email protected] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [WOR] Cotheridge Hello again, Denise, As to what "The Camp" might have been, I don't know. There's no mention of it in the Enumerator's Description of his District - "all within the boundary" - and there's equally no indication of it in my current largeish-scale Street Map [3½" to the mile] or the current OS 1:50,000. As to where it might be, assuming the Enumerator arranged his forms in a logical walking-through order, it'd seem to be somewhere between: Lower Lightwoods Farm - Grid SO 804557 (at the end of a cul-de-sac) and (today's) Otherton Farm - Grid SO 805542 [not named on the OS] - roughly a mile, cross-country, to the South and on the far side of the Worcester-Bromyard Road. [From there, he'd seemingly continued west cross-country about ½ a mile to Howsen - which IS marked.] The 1851 Enumerator is no help - he 'walked his route' differently, and was coy in his use of namesgenerally. There's no mention of The Camp... I've not looked further! It is *possible* that the OldMaps site just may have more detail on the 1885 6" or 25" OS Maps - but don't hold your breath. What was once a Useful Resource has been revamped so you (almost) have to buy the product blind to see if it actually DOES show what you want. HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Howes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: [WOR] Cotheridge Hello List again, Does anyone know what "The Camp", Cotheridge refers to - 1841 census? Denise H. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again, Denise, As to what "The Camp" might have been, I don't know. There's no mention of it in the Enumerator's Description of his District - "all within the boundary" - and there's equally no indication of it in my current largeish-scale Street Map [3½" to the mile] or the current OS 1:50,000. As to where it might be, assuming the Enumerator arranged his forms in a logical walking-through order, it'd seem to be somewhere between: Lower Lightwoods Farm - Grid SO 804557 (at the end of a cul-de-sac) and (today's) Otherton Farm - Grid SO 805542 [not named on the OS] - roughly a mile, cross-country, to the South and on the far side of the Worcester-Bromyard Road. [From there, he'd seemingly continued west cross-country about ½ a mile to Howsen - which IS marked.] The 1851 Enumerator is no help - he 'walked his route' differently, and was coy in his use of namesgenerally. There's no mention of The Camp... I've not looked further! It is *possible* that the OldMaps site just may have more detail on the 1885 6" or 25" OS Maps - but don't hold your breath. What was once a Useful Resource has been revamped so you (almost) have to buy the product blind to see if it actually DOES show what you want. HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Howes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: [WOR] Cotheridge Hello List again, Does anyone know what "The Camp", Cotheridge refers to - 1841 census? Denise H. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List again, Does anyone know what "The Camp", Cotheridge refers to - 1841 census? Denise H.

spicers wrote: > I am seeking information on a John PERRYMAN born about 1869-1872 he > married a Mary Jane EDWARDS in 1917 . However at his death in 1933 > another woman turned up with young children claiming to be married > to him. Is it the same John PERRYMAN? Can you find any of the children and so get a birth certificate? Can you find a marriage to this other woman? > Family lore has it that John is supposed to have sailed to America > and later joined the Canadian Army. He returned to England with > them and settled in Bromsgrove. However this may be a tall story. I had a similar story in my family that a cousin joined the Canadian Expeditionary Forces (true) and got married there (not proven). However I found that he'd died in England, a niece was the informant of his death. I've never been able to find this girl he was supposed to have married *but* I did find his dau who unfortunately died at the age of 10. The mother's name was completely different and I found my cousin's marriage to this other girl. He states he was a bachelor on the marriage certificate. I'm still no wiser about the Canadian girl he was supposed to have married and I don't know what happened to the girl he married in England. (That's the second wife I've "lost" when the husband's gone to or been in Canada!)