Hi List I am probably missing something obvious, but even before the necessity to have a death certified by a doctor, I understood that a death certificate needed to be produced before burial could take place. I have 2 examples in Badsey in 1841 where the following occurred :- death 16 Mar 1843, burial (as per parish records) 21 Mar, certificate 30 Mar death 3 May 1841, burial 7 May, certificate 13 May. Please could someone more knowledgeable put me right. Thanks Mike Walker Researching KNIGHT, SHARP Badsey WALKER, JELFS, COLE, SMART, HILL, PROCTOR Evesham

Hi Gerry, I am worried now that you have not received emails - would like to compare notes if you would!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Wood" <[email protected]> To: "M Howes" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] Cotheridge Camp! > Hi: > I have many MUNNs from Cotheridge on my family tree, going back to early > 1600s. I also have a smattering of BOWENs and HUNDLEYs. > Of my 9 William MUNNs, only one married a Martha: > William MUNN married Martha EVANS October 23, 1804 St Clements Worcester. > Contact me offline and we can exchange further information. > > Regards, > Gerry Wood > > On 24-Feb-08, at 4:31 PM, M Howes wrote: > >> Hello List again, I am actively watching, it is fascinating (1841 >> census Cotheridge) - "The Camp" The Munns - seem to have been >> farmers in the area - we are looking at Munn/Lilly/Starry/Anthony/ >> Bowen/Hundley. Seems to be heading Shropshire direction to Bedstone --- >> !!! Thank you everyone that has bothered to answer, I am really >> looking for a Martha married to a William Munn - found in will of Mary >> Anthony of Cotheridge 1814 - need to find a Munn/ Anthony connection >> before I die!!!! DH. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My wife has an ancestor, Sarah SADDLER born Pershore in 1766 (or thereabouts). Her parents seem to have been William Saddler and Elizabeth Walker (each born c.1740 ??). Anyone else connected to Pershore SADDLER ?? TIA Gwyn

Just a thought, Have you tried the Enclosure Awards - maps and description - of every parish. Fields with hedges and walls were new so such a camp may have been described. Try the Record Office at Spetchley, not the Family History Centre. M Howes wrote: > Have not yet managed to get to the bottom of "The Camp Cotheridge" but thank you to one and all - have just found this: > > WHEREAS, SUSANNAH, the Wife of me, JOSEPH HOLLAND, of the Camp, in the parish of Upper Sapey, in the county of Hereford, Millwright, having from her ill treatment and behaviour induced me to leave her, and I having offered her a sufficient support and maintenance, which she has refused to accept of: This is to give notice to all persons not to trust her on my account, as I will not be answerable for any debts she may in future contract. As witness my hand, > JOSEPH HOLLAND. > Upper Sapey, Dec.20, 1790. > > There seems to be many "Camps" !!! Ah Well!! C'est la vie!!! > D.H. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > regards -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman BromsgroveBMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/

Hello Bruce, Some dates - not to mention some Names - would be a great help here forBOTH your questions. HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "BRUCE MOORHOUSE" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:33 PM Subject: [WOR] Dr. Torrington.... Alms on br. entry Hello: Has anyone knowledge of a Dr. Torrington? Some of my wife's ancestors, who lived in Kidderminster, played violin in his orchestra. Also can someone tell me what "Alms" means in a br. entry in parish registers? Would it mean that the person was poor? Thank you Bruce Moorhouse [email protected] Ontario Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello: Has anyone knowledge of a Dr. Torrington? Some of my wife's ancestors, who lived in Kidderminster, played violin in his orchestra. Also can someone tell me what "Alms" means in a br. entry in parish registers? Would it mean that the person was poor? Thank you Bruce Moorhouse [email protected] Ontario Canada

Have not yet managed to get to the bottom of "The Camp Cotheridge" but thank you to one and all - have just found this: WHEREAS, SUSANNAH, the Wife of me, JOSEPH HOLLAND, of the Camp, in the parish of Upper Sapey, in the county of Hereford, Millwright, having from her ill treatment and behaviour induced me to leave her, and I having offered her a sufficient support and maintenance, which she has refused to accept of: This is to give notice to all persons not to trust her on my account, as I will not be answerable for any debts she may in future contract. As witness my hand, JOSEPH HOLLAND. Upper Sapey, Dec.20, 1790. There seems to be many "Camps" !!! Ah Well!! C'est la vie!!! D.H.

Hi to All, I don't know whether anyone can help me or not. My 2 xgt.grandfather John Lane was the landlord of the Lord Nelson Pub in Stourport from around 1810 to the 1830's but lived at 'Wheatland Cottage' Severn Side, Stourport. I'm trying to discover whether this cottage is still standing. One of the daughters Mary Vale Lane lived there until her death in 1903. There is also one other daughter, an Ann Lane (very possibly on some records she is Ann Vale Lane) whom I have not been able to trace. Baptised 1813 at Lower Mitton and still living at home (Wheatland Cottage) 1841. I have managed to trace the remaining siblings. Would love to know if she married or remained single etc. Any help would be so much appreciated. Thankyou Chris Jensen in OZ

Chris, Ann does not seem to feature on the 1851 under her maiden name. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "ben and chris Jensen" <[email protected]> To: "ENG-Worcester" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 AM Subject: [WOR] (no subject) > Hi to All, > > I don't know whether anyone can help me or not. My 2 xgt.grandfather John > Lane was the landlord of the Lord Nelson Pub in Stourport from around > 1810 to the 1830's but lived at 'Wheatland Cottage' Severn Side, > Stourport. I'm trying to discover whether this cottage is still standing. > One of the daughters Mary Vale Lane lived there until her death in 1903. > There is also one other daughter, an Ann Lane (very possibly on some > records she is Ann Vale Lane) whom I have not been able to trace. Baptised > 1813 at Lower Mitton and still living at home (Wheatland Cottage) 1841. I > have managed to trace the remaining siblings. Would love to know if she > married or remained single etc. > > Any help would be so much appreciated. Thankyou > > Chris Jensen in OZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

What a wonderful lot! My thanks to John, Michael and Arthur for their help in deciphering Smokey Hall Farm and locating it for me Kind regards Joy

Hello Joy, The following extract from the Victoria County History, coupled with John Kane's reply, may throw some light on your query: The road from Pershore to Evesham runs through the parish from west to east, and from it at a short distance from the village of Cropthorne a road branches off southwards to Smoky Farm. From: 'Parishes: Cropthorne', A History of the County of Worcester: volume 3 (1913), pp. 322-329. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43131. Date accessed: 01 March 2008. (Apologies for the repeated message - I was too quick with the send button before checking spelling etc.) Regards Arthur ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Hungerford" <[email protected]> To: "WOR" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:05 PM Subject: [WOR] WOODWARD at a Cropthorne Farm > Hi Knowledgeable Ones > > I see that my 2GGF, William WOODWARD, was an Ag Lab in 1841, living with > the HOUGHTON family at ?Somohey Farm, Cropthorne. > > Could someone please tell me what the actual name of the farm is? [The > enumerator wasn't the neatest writer I've come across]. > > Kind regards > Joy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Joy, The following extract from the Victoria County history, coupled with John Kane's reply, may throw sum light on your query: The road from Pershore to Evesham runs through the parish from west to east, and from it at a short distance from the village of Cropthorne a road branches off southwards to Smoky Farm. From: 'Parishes: Cropthorne', A History of the County of Worcester: volume 3 (1913), pp. 322-329. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43131. Date accessed: 01 March 2008. Regards Arthur ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Hungerford" <[email protected]> To: "WOR" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:05 PM Subject: [WOR] WOODWARD at a Cropthorne Farm > Hi Knowledgeable Ones > > I see that my 2GGF, William WOODWARD, was an Ag Lab in 1841, living with > the HOUGHTON family at ?Somohey Farm, Cropthorne. > > Could someone please tell me what the actual name of the farm is? [The > enumerator wasn't the neatest writer I've come across]. > > Kind regards > Joy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Joy, The 1851 census is a little clearer, and looks like 'Smokey Farm'. Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Hungerford" <[email protected]> To: "WOR" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:05 PM Subject: [WOR] WOODWARD at a Cropthorne Farm > Hi Knowledgeable Ones > > I see that my 2GGF, William WOODWARD, was an Ag Lab in 1841, living with > the HOUGHTON family at ?Somohey Farm, Cropthorne. > > Could someone please tell me what the actual name of the farm is? [The > enumerator wasn't the neatest writer I've come across]. > > Kind regards > Joy

Hi Knowledgeable Ones I see that my 2GGF, William WOODWARD, was an Ag Lab in 1841, living with the HOUGHTON family at ?Somohey Farm, Cropthorne. Could someone please tell me what the actual name of the farm is? [The enumerator wasn't the neatest writer I've come across]. Kind regards Joy

Hi Lance, If no one responds to requests for info then try our society's list of Member's Interests http://www.bmsgh.org/MembersInterests/U.htm To find the marriage of John and Ann, as you can't pop over too easily from Michigan, try http://www.bmsgh.org/search/Wo_marr_index.html for our societies Worcestershire Marriage Index 1660-1837. Virtually every marriage in the county! Cheers Lance Mitchell wrote: > Hi All- > I'm new to the list and the only surnames I have is Underhill. > > John Underhill born around 1810-1820 married Ann ___? Her maiden name could > possibly be Butcher. They had 3 sons that I know of: Thomas Underhill born > Oct 1845-1846, William Underhill b.1848, and Joseph born around 1850-1855. > Thomas emigrated to Canada with his father John about 1855 and eventually > settled in Oakland County, Michigan USA. Ann, William, and Joseph stayed in > England, changed their surname to Butcher (presumably after John's death), > and setlled in Wigan/Hindley areas of Lancashire County. I hope someone out > there recognizes these names! > > Lance Mitchell > > Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman BromsgroveBMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/

Hi All- I'm new to the list and the only surnames I have is Underhill. John Underhill born around 1810-1820 married Ann ___? Her maiden name could possibly be Butcher. They had 3 sons that I know of: Thomas Underhill born Oct 1845-1846, William Underhill b.1848, and Joseph born around 1850-1855. Thomas emigrated to Canada with his father John about 1855 and eventually settled in Oakland County, Michigan USA. Ann, William, and Joseph stayed in England, changed their surname to Butcher (presumably after John's death), and setlled in Wigan/Hindley areas of Lancashire County. I hope someone out there recognizes these names! Lance Mitchell Michigan USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.2/1304 - Release Date: 2/29/2008 8:18 AM

I found the following when searching through the Western Flying Post and Sherborne and Yeovil Mercury for 1797 and thought it might be useful to anyone researching Eades or Treasure families. Most genealogists would discount such a marriage as unbelievable! Jan 23 1797 Married the 11th instant at Feckenham in Worcestershire Mr John Eades aged 58 to Mrs Treasure aged 98. A great number of people were present at this singular wedding. Kind regards Maddy Duke

Hi I have recently discovered that Sarah Hill, c1790 to 1875, is my 2 * gt grandmother. She married Thomas WALKER (date not yet found). They lived mainly in Oat St, Evesham and after death of Thomas in Cowl St, Chapel St area. Is anyone researching HILL or WALKER families ? Other names of interest in same area : - SMART, PROCTOR, COLE, BISHOP, LEWIS Any help appreciated Mike

Terry Some of Ribbesford's records are published on the British Vital Records Index , [published by L D S ) Baptisms and Marriages . I f you are looking for DIPPLE these are the Baptisms listed . DIPPELE, James Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 22 Mar 1720 Christening Date: 17 Apr 1721 Recorded in: Ribbesford, Worcestershire, England Father: Roger DIPPELE Mother: Elizabeth Source: FHL Film 992393 Dates: 1696 - 1773 DIPPLE, William Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 16 Dec 1749 Recorded in: Ribbesford, Worcestershire, England Father: Joseph DIPPLE Mother: Mary Source: FHL Film 992393 Dates: 1696 - 1773 DIPPLE, William Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 2 Mar 1756 Recorded in: Ribbesford, Worcestershire, England Father: James DIPPLE Mother: Sarah Source: FHL Film 992393 Dates: 1696 - 1773 All the best Helen New Zealand I am happy to search for other names /events for you -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TERRY DIPPLE Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [WOR] Ribbesford parish records Listers - done anyone know if the above are around on a CD/on-line? The period I'm interested in are the mid 1700's. Thanks - Terry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good news - I just ordered and paid for a marriage cert. all on-line. I'll let you know when it arrives. Regards - Terry