Samuel Biddle born c 1867. One relation has him born in Warwickshire, but both the 1891 and the 1901 has him as born in Worcestershire. Samuel married Jane Hollands 1890 in Worcester 6c 491. They had 5 children Florence 1890, Samuel 1892, William 1895, Lucy 1899 and Jane 1901. Samuel was an Upholster on the 1891 and 1901 censuses and he was also an upholsterer on his son Samuel's marriage to Mary Gower. It is the 1881 census (if it is the correct one still not sure because of the Bedall). Sarah Biddle aged 46. She has 3 sons. William age 18, Samuel age 15 and Arthur age 7. As Sarah's parents are on the 1881 census (Frank and Susannah Knight), I have found her christening at St Clements 26th March 1837. Eveline ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Eveline to know its the correct one you really need to know a bit more about him such as the wifes name or his occupation or the names of any children that may have been living with him.Also what census have you seen that shows his mother as a widow? Also what census have you found that shows his mother as a widow? Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: Eveline Clarke To: Worcester Rootsweb Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 4:56 PM Subject: [WOR] 1881 Census I was wondering if there was anyone with access to Ancestry.com who could look up an original census for me. I am looking for Samuel Biddle born c 1867 in Worcester. I have found a Samuel Beddall on Family Search which looks as though it might be the right family, but it would be nice to know if this is a transcription error, or maybe even a completely different family. On this census his mother is a widow. Reference RG11 Folio 2917/132 Page 14 I have him already have Samuel on the 1891 and 1901 census. The 1891 says born St Helen, Worcester. If anyone also has access to the 1871 census that would be brilliant as I would then be able to find his father's name. I have been unable to find Samuel on freeBMD or on Family Search. Regards Eveline ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1319 - Release Date: 08/03/2008 10:14

I was wondering if there was anyone with access to Ancestry.com who could look up an original census for me. I am looking for Samuel Biddle born c 1867 in Worcester. I have found a Samuel Beddall on Family Search which looks as though it might be the right family, but it would be nice to know if this is a transcription error, or maybe even a completely different family. On this census his mother is a widow. Reference RG11 Folio 2917/132 Page 14 I have him already have Samuel on the 1891 and 1901 census. The 1891 says born St Helen, Worcester. If anyone also has access to the 1871 census that would be brilliant as I would then be able to find his father's name. I have been unable to find Samuel on freeBMD or on Family Search. Regards Eveline

Birmingham & Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry March meeting We will be holding our Annual General Meeting, at 7.30pm on Friday, 14th March, 2008 at the Baptist Church Hall in Sansome Walk, Worcester. In addition to the normal business of receiving reports and the election of officers this will be an opportunity for members to review the last twelve months and to consider any proposals for new initiatives. After the AGM we will receive progress reports on our Branch projects. Last Summer the inclement weather disrupted our efforts but it is now time to plan and act on the next stages. As usual our bookstall will be in Peter Taylor's capable hands and light refreshments will be available at minimal charge. Visitors are welcome to attend the meeting. Arthur Lewis Chairman Worcester Branch BMSGH

Hi I have been given the marriage of Roland Samuel Biddle and Ena L Mason, they were married in the June Quarter 1937 in Worcester. Roland died in Malvern in 1987. I was wondering if there were any other persons on the Worcester list researching either Biddle or Mason. Regards Eveline

Hi Barbara try http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43160 which mentions crown east wood Mike Fisher Wythall,WOR One-Place Genealogical Study http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wythallindex/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Hill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 3:20 PM Subject: [WOR] Sand Pit House Inn and Crow's Nest Wood > Does anyone know where Sand Pit House Inn (Bromyard Road, Worcester) was > situated? Is it either of the public houses still existing in Bromyard > Road? Also Crow's Nest Wood, said to be near Sand Pit House. > > Crow's Nest Wood was the scene of an accident in 1854 in which a family > member was shot and killed (he was a gamekeeper). The subsequent inquest > was held at the Sand Pit House Inn. > > I'm trying to establish whereabouts in Bromyard Road said inn was. > > Many thanks for any help. > > Barbara > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Barbara, Yes I remember The Sandpits in Bromyard Rd., also CrownEast Wood, HTH Ken

Does anyone know where Sand Pit House Inn (Bromyard Road, Worcester) was situated? Is it either of the public houses still existing in Bromyard Road? Also Crow's Nest Wood, said to be near Sand Pit House. Crow's Nest Wood was the scene of an accident in 1854 in which a family member was shot and killed (he was a gamekeeper). The subsequent inquest was held at the Sand Pit House Inn. I'm trying to establish whereabouts in Bromyard Road said inn was. Many thanks for any help. Barbara

Hi Anyone interested in me carrying out some searches in the UK 2003 - 2007 Electoral Rolls for any relatives etc. If you give me their full name and year of birth etc. Also a partners name will help narrow the results. Email me off list. Regards Holly

try this new bmsgh facility http://www.worcesterbmsgh.co.uk/Introduction.html Mike Fisher Wythall,WOR One-Place Genealogical Study http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wythallindex/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Johnson" <[email protected]> To: "WORCESTER Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:57 PM Subject: [WOR] Halesowen Churchyard > Hi there everyone, > > Is there likely to be a list of people who have been buried in Halesowen > Churchyard, and if so where would it be held? > > Is it possible to get hold of a copy? > > Janet > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi there everyone, Is there likely to be a list of people who have been buried in Halesowen Churchyard, and if so where would it be held? Is it possible to get hold of a copy? Janet

Hello Janet: This link will take you to Dudley Metropolitan Borough Council. If you scroll down to "Cremations and Cemeteries, you can search for persons buried there. Lots of other good information you might find helpful. http://www.dudley.gov.uk/leisure-and-culture/local-history--heritage/archive-and-local-history/researching-your-family-history Barb, Ontario, Canada.

Hi everyone, I'm currently researching some of my family that came from Dudley, Worcester in the 1800's. The names I'm mostly researching are OWEN and NICKLIN, in particular... - George Henry OWEN b. 1868 (not to be confused with the George Owen born in 1869 who I have his birth cert but it's the wrong family!) - Reuben OWEN - George's father - not sure of his year of birth, but somwhere bt 1848-1950 (seem to have inconclusive dates from various census etc) - I do know that he died in 1887 (have GRO info for it) - Annie SWIFT - Reuben's wife - I found the marriage cert bt Reuban and Annie - took a while since they were married in 1870 - and their son was born in 1868. Surprised a bit by that.... - Annie NICKLIN - married George Henry Owen (above) - this is where I may need some assistance...the 1881 census says she was born in 1866, in Dudley. Her marriage cert to George in 1888 says she was 22 (george, otoh, was 20), so that also leads me to believe she was born in 1866. however, I cannot find her on familysearch or Freebmd, even when I expand the search to include all the county. The 1891 census shows her and george and her age on that makes out to a 1867 year of birth...same with the 1901 census. The only Ann(ie) Nicklin I can find was born either in 1864 or 1873. - James NICKLIN - Annie's father - I think he was born in 1838, but his death reg shows him dying in 1905 at age 65, so the years don't quite match up. - Caroline MILLICHIP - Jame's wife....pretty sure I have her birth and death info and have the reg info on their marriage in 1858. George Henry OWEN and Annie NICKLIN were my great grandmother, Emily Caroline's, parents. Emily Caroline married to PROVAN from Scotland. sharon

Apologies for any cross posting, it was just to mention I've added 20 new Newspapers Transcripts - with a few more in the pipeline later in the month. These are 20 more editions of one of my favourite newspapers, Berrow's Worcester Journal, from the reigns of George II and George III (various dates 1756, 1757, 1763, and 1771). As usual the newspaper features not only Worcestershire news, but news and advertisements from Gloucestershire, Staffordshire, Herefordshire, Warwickshire, etc. Along with "Country News" which could be any county ! News from Ireland, Scotland, lots from London, and I've included some international news, covering mainly the war in and around Prussia and Hanover, and of course North America. I suspect thats all the newspapers I've got for 1756, but I've a number yet for 1757, so I'll try to get these finished next. There are some excellent local adverts - some quite rare - and as usual some excellent news reports To locate the Page(s) of interest Use Freefind at : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dutillieul/index.html And once on the Page(s) use Ctrl F to locate the name(s) you are looking for Best Regards Richard Heaton

This couple married in Mansfield, 1857. I found them singly on census 1841 and 1851. They emigrated to Queensland, Australia sometime before 3 April 1862, when their eldest son , Manley Henry Hitchon, was born in Tara, Queensland. They them appear in Balclutha, Otago, New Zealand. Henry died 28 Oct 1892, at Adams Flat, Otago, NZ and Jane died 1916, Tokomairiro, Southland, NZ I think that Henry's parents were Eli and Charlotte (it has been suggested her maiden name may be Nettleship), and Jane's parents were John and Elizabeth (no maiden name known) Bennett, both born abt 1791. There are 2 possibilities on the 1851 census, John Bennet b 1795 Marnham, Notts or John Bennet b 1796 Darlton, Notts. I have membership to Ancestry UK but that doesn't help me much to find births and marriages and family for Eli and Charlotte, and John and Elizabeth. I'd be very grateful for any ideas, information, etc on these people. I know a fair bit about the NZ end, but have just found the UK end. TIA Regards Jan Moon Daintree, Australia

Would sks have access to the microfilm of the following & kindly be able to check if these christenings are all for the one couple, namely John & Ann COMPSON? Perhaps there is also information on the dates these people were born &/or addresses or occupations for the parents. I am also intersted in locating Ann's maiden surname? I think it may have been PARTRIDGE but am not sure. The last christening is the most important one to me & the parents. In the 1841 census John, Ann & two of their issue - Thomas & William -are all living in High Street, Stourbridge as is Laban Hughes PACKWOOD, his wife, Eleanor - both 20 & their child Laban 11 months. ISSUE of John & Ann COMPSON Old Swinford C040273 1800 – 1808. 1808 – 1819: Eleanor COMPSON Cr 16 May 1819 Joseph COMPSON Cr 19 Nov 1820 Charles COMPSON Cr 22 Sep 1822 John COMPSON Cr 28 Mar 1824 Old Swinford christenings from the Parish of Old Swinford Registers 1602 - 1961, (Church of England) Refer Ba No. C040274 Srce 0527942 Film 0883731 Henry COMPSON Cr 19 March 1826 Thomas COMPSON Cr 22nd January 1828 William COMPSON Cr 1st April 1832 Some of the above issue may have moved to Birmingham. I believe Eleanor COMPSON above married Laban Hughes PACKWOOD in Wolverhampton in 1838, & later moved to Stourbridge where they are in the 1841 Census. William COMPSON (William Frederick COMPSON) married Ellen SMITH in 1856 in Stourbridge. The father, John COMPSON, born about 1791 in Worcester, I believe died between the 1841 & 1851 census. Ann, his wife I believe was born about 1796. Winsome (winbri at bigpond.com)

Thanks for that. I think your suggestion is probably correct. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Firebird" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] Death, Burial & Certificate (Informant) dates. > MichaelWalker wrote: > > > Hi List > > > > I am probably missing something obvious, but even before the > > necessity to have a death certified by a doctor, I understood that > > a death certificate needed to be produced before burial could take > > place. > > > > I have 2 examples in Badsey in 1841 where the following occurred :- > > > > > > death 16 Mar 1843, burial (as per parish records) 21 Mar, > > certificate 30 Mar > > > > death 3 May 1841, burial 7 May, certificate 13 May. > > > > Please could someone more knowledgeable put me right. > > Yes, you are right in your understanding. It would appear that the > vicar has agreed to the burial with the proviso that the death cert > was produced in due course in both cases you highlight. Either the > vicar trusted the families concerned or knew they would do as > required. Another possibility is that the burial didn't take place on > the date given in the parish register since the registers weren't made > up as baptisms and burials occurred but maybe once a week, once a > month or even once a quarter ahead of the returns having to be sent to > the GRO. It meant that the scraps of paper could have been got out of > order or the information on it wasn't complete or that the vicar or > clerk was going by memory as to the date. > > I'm not quite sure what the vicar would have done if the families > hadn't produced the certificate! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1310 - Release Date: 3/4/08 8:35 AM > >

MichaelWalker wrote: > Hi List > > I am probably missing something obvious, but even before the > necessity to have a death certified by a doctor, I understood that > a death certificate needed to be produced before burial could take > place. > > I have 2 examples in Badsey in 1841 where the following occurred :- > > > death 16 Mar 1843, burial (as per parish records) 21 Mar, > certificate 30 Mar > > death 3 May 1841, burial 7 May, certificate 13 May. > > Please could someone more knowledgeable put me right. Yes, you are right in your understanding. It would appear that the vicar has agreed to the burial with the proviso that the death cert was produced in due course in both cases you highlight. Either the vicar trusted the families concerned or knew they would do as required. Another possibility is that the burial didn't take place on the date given in the parish register since the registers weren't made up as baptisms and burials occurred but maybe once a week, once a month or even once a quarter ahead of the returns having to be sent to the GRO. It meant that the scraps of paper could have been got out of order or the information on it wasn't complete or that the vicar or clerk was going by memory as to the date. I'm not quite sure what the vicar would have done if the families hadn't produced the certificate!

Hi Shirley, I found your name on the Bmsgh surname list. I have many Gaudens in the Worcester area, particularly Oldswinford, going back to the late 1600s. Prior to that they came from Sedgley, Staffs, I think. If your interest also lies in Oldswinford, I wonder if we could compare notes? Regards, Alan. Pinner, Middx.

Hi, Lance! I don't know how far back you plan to go but I have some Underhills in my ancestry. Mary, daughter of Edward and Elizabeth Underhill of Worcester, married one of my ancestors, John Stone, at Kidderminster on 24 August 1727. I'm still looking for the antecedents of John! Regards, Bill Stone

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