John Beale was born in Bredon in 1865, the son of William and Mary Ann Beale. I have not been able to locate him in any record after that date and wonder if anyone has access to the PR's to see if he died at or shortly after birth please? Any help offered would be brilliant Regards Dennis

Hi Is anyone researching JAMES STOKES b 1811 Broadwas who married ELIZABETH DAVIS in 1837? Children: WILLIAM b 1840 MARY ANN b 1842 SARAH b 1845 JOSEPH b 1847 GEORGE b 1851 JAMES b 1853 A number of these children moved to The Black Country (Netherton near Dudley, etc). Any help greatly appreciated. Steph

Thanks to Roger & Mike on the location of Proud Cross. My mistake. Mike Mike Fisher wrote: > Hi Mike > > try Proud Cross Kidderminster in Google > > Mike Fisher in Droitwich > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike YEGWART" > <[email protected]> > To: "Worcester" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:22 PM > Subject: [WOR] Pound Cross, Kidderminster > > >> Hi Folks, >> >> Please could some one with knowledge of what looks like Pound Cross >> (1861 census RG9/2079/ F?/ page 14) in Kidderminster tell me where it >> is? At the top of the schedule Mill Street gets a mention in the >> municipal ward - South. George HANDS (30), wife Annie and daughter >> Elizabeth M. live at number 5. George was a master Tanner and born in >> Kings Norton. >> >> Regards >> >> Mike

Mike, The name is Proud Cross and is an area inKidderminster at the end of Mill Street on the Brignorth road out of town. The town's hospital (infirmary) was situated there as was my infant school.The name Proud Cross has largely been forgotten now except for ancient folks like me. Colin Lloyd Kidderminster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike YEGWART" <[email protected]> To: "Worcester" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: [WOR] Pound Cross, Kidderminster > Hi Folks, > > Please could some one with knowledge of what looks like Pound Cross (1861 > census RG9/2079/ F?/ page 14) in Kidderminster tell me where it is? At the > top of the schedule Mill Street gets a mention in the municipal ward - > South. George HANDS (30), wife Annie and daughter Elizabeth M. live at > number 5. George was a master Tanner and born in Kings Norton. > > Regards > > Mike > > > > > >

Hi Listers William White from Holt, married Harriet Massey from Chaddesley Corbett in 1868. They had 12 children that I have found so far, and were living in the Broadwaters area of Kidderminsrter 1869 to the 1901 census. Does anyone on the list have any connection to this family Roger Lewis

Hi Mike try Proud Cross Kidderminster in Google Mike Fisher in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike YEGWART" <[email protected]> To: "Worcester" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: [WOR] Pound Cross, Kidderminster > Hi Folks, > > Please could some one with knowledge of what looks like Pound Cross > (1861 census RG9/2079/ F?/ page 14) in Kidderminster tell me where it > is? At the top of the schedule Mill Street gets a mention in the > municipal ward - South. George HANDS (30), wife Annie and daughter > Elizabeth M. live at number 5. George was a master Tanner and born in > Kings Norton. > > Regards > > Mike > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Folks, Please could some one with knowledge of what looks like Pound Cross (1861 census RG9/2079/ F?/ page 14) in Kidderminster tell me where it is? At the top of the schedule Mill Street gets a mention in the municipal ward - South. George HANDS (30), wife Annie and daughter Elizabeth M. live at number 5. George was a master Tanner and born in Kings Norton. Regards Mike

This couple married at Old Swinford in 1818. They had the following children: John Crail Hitchon b1821 Lower Mitton m Charlotte Penn ( b 1823) abt 1843 Kidderminster Mary Hitchon b 1823 Kidderminster Eli Hitchon b 1829 Kidderminster m Ann Biggs abt 1851? Catherine b 1831 Kidderminster m Henry Chalk (b 1830) ?? Henry Horton Hitchon b 1833 Kidderminster m Jane Bennett 1857 Mansfield, Notts Maria Nettleship Hitchon b 1836 Kidderminster Elizabeth Hitchon b 1839 Kidderminster Jane Hitchon b 1846 Kidderminster I would be grateful for any information/ideas/direction to go next about these people. I know about Henry Hitchon (he was my uncle's Grandfather) but hadn't realised that Hitchon was such a common name (not in Aust/NZ) - they all seem to use the same reoccuring christian names, too (so maybe they are all related somewhere??) Thanks so much Regards Jan Moon Daintree, Australia

Sorry for cross posting - My great uncle James Heighton used to be part of the Cadbury Athletics Club (part of the Cadbury factory). Wondering if anyone could help me a contact email or person to try and find out more information about its history and medals that he won back in 1945. Deb Chenoweth (nee Court) Looking for: WARW - Thompson, Nason, Adnitt, King, Stokes, Truslove, Parsons & Proffitt WORC - Court, Trueman, Adkins, Surman, Clark, Durden, Hobbins & Howes Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail

Searching for any information on the following : George Warrington/Werrington m. Mary (anne) Bingham 31st Oct.1824. Children: Sarah b. 1829, Maryanne b. 1829, Rosanna b. 1832 then Samuel, Thomas, Jane and James . These last four traveled to Melbourne, Australia in 1854 and changed their surname to Worthington. Perhaps originally of Kidderminster, Worc. Any information very much appreciated. Belinda

On 12 Mar, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Everyone > I'm trying to find the descendants of the marriage of one Franics WITTEN > (vars) and Sarah SARGEANT (vars). I have quite a few children from the > Old Swinford registers but a gap inbetween (1679ish to 1684) Sarah > appeared to have children at close and regular intervals so I'm pretty > certain that there are some missing. I can't trace the marriage either > tho' I expect that it might have been at Hagley where Sarah's, father > was a Non-Conformist minister and about 1674ish. Would the missing > births be on Non-Conformist registers tho' I've checked the NArchives > online service and haven't found them? I might have expected them also > to be at Hagley if they had been the first one or two but there are > three 1676-1678 and then the rest between 1686 - 1697. Is there anyone > out there that can help or advise? > Thanks > Lennie XX Hi Lennie I'm researching DANCERs from the same time frame, and have found that some of them married in Pedmore and Kinver. Perhaps it's worth searching these registers too - I don't know what was going on at Old Swinford at the time but something was. There wasn't really many non-conformist churches about at this time as it had been illegal to be anything that wasn't C of E up until the Commonwealth, and even then Cromwell wasn't keen on allowing reform. Hope this helps. > -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

Hi Everyone I'm trying to find the descendants of the marriage of one Franics WITTEN (vars) and Sarah SARGEANT (vars). I have quite a few children from the Old Swinford registers but a gap inbetween (1679ish to 1684) Sarah appeared to have children at close and regular intervals so I'm pretty certain that there are some missing. I can't trace the marriage either tho' I expect that it might have been at Hagley where Sarah's, father was a Non-Conformist minister and about 1674ish. Would the missing births be on Non-Conformist registers tho' I've checked the NArchives online service and haven't found them? I might have expected them also to be at Hagley if they had been the first one or two but there are three 1676-1678 and then the rest between 1686 - 1697. Is there anyone out there that can help or advise? Thanks Lennie XX

Dear Sally, It is a long shot but I would suggest you contact Tony WOODWARD at [email protected] He has amassed a very impressive collection of records on the WOODWARD name. He may be able to help you. Warmest regards, Terry Waters-Marsh FreeCEN Country Coordinator for ENGLAND. FreeCEN County Coordinator for SOMERSET (1891), WILTSHIRE (south, 1891), BERKSHIRE, BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, CHESHIRE, DORSET, GLOUCESTERSHIRE, WARWICKSHIRE, WORCESTERSHIRE. Visit the FreeCEN web page at http://freecen.rootsweb.com Somerset web page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~somtcen Wiltshire web page http://www.pope-genealogy.me.uk/nwocp.htm Warwickshire 1861 web page http:///www.hunimex.com/warwick/freecens/1861/index_1861.html Worcestershire web page http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/wo-a-p.html http://www.british-genealogy.com/resources/census/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 11 March 2008 12:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [WOR] WOODWARD Dear members A forebearer of mine Robert WOODWARD was married by licence on 2nd March 1800 to Esther PAIN in presence of Thomas PAINE and someone with an indecipherable name. I am trying to locate Robert's birthplace/baptism since this was not Feckenham (according to parish records I searched) although at wedding both were 'of this parish' and sons Henry (1801) and Richard (1804) were born in Feckenham. At around the same time located in Feckenham (although I found no marriage records) were: Robert and Alice WOODWARD who had offspring baptised in Feckenham between 1776 and 1798; and John and Sarah WOODWARD who had offspring baptised in Feckenham between 1788 and 1801. There was also a William WOODWARD married to Rebecca STRAIN in Feckenham on 5th November 1789 with offspring between 1790 and 1795. Any ideas about how I might proceed would be most welcome. Thanks Sally (in Essex) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sally, Your PAINed expression caught my eye. (sorry) You only needed about 3 weeks of residence to be "of this parish". The BMSGH have a county Marriage Index which might help you find potential parents http://www.bmsgh.org/search/Wo_marr_index.html Plan B would be to look at contiguous parishes for the parents. Feckenham Parish registers I believe were transcribed, I think by the parish themselves. If you get any further back I have a distant Mary PAIN, born around 1760, who married a William HANDS in 1784 in Feckenham. From memory Feckenham is a bit of a stronghold for PAINs, so tread carefully Cheers -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman BromsgroveBMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ [email protected] wrote: > Dear members > > A forebearer of mine Robert WOODWARD was married by licence on 2nd March > 1800 to Esther PAIN in presence of Thomas PAINE and someone with an > indecipherable name. I am trying to locate Robert's birthplace/baptism since this was not > Feckenham (according to parish records I searched) although at wedding both > were 'of this parish' and sons Henry (1801) and Richard (1804) were born in > Feckenham. > > At around the same time located in Feckenham (although I found no marriage > records) were: Robert and Alice WOODWARD who had offspring baptised in > Feckenham between 1776 and 1798; and John and Sarah WOODWARD who had offspring > baptised in Feckenham between 1788 and 1801. There was also a William WOODWARD > married to Rebecca STRAIN in Feckenham on 5th November 1789 with offspring > between 1790 and 1795. > > Any ideas about how I might proceed would be most welcome. > > Thanks > > Sally (in Essex) >

I'm researching BIDDLE/Beadle. Robert LANE m Sarah BEADLE 14 June 1763 in Wootton Waren. Sarah BEADLE being the daughter of George BIDDLE and his wife Susannah BANNISTER who married at Stratford upon avon 24 August 1744. Susie > From: [email protected]> Subject: ENG-WORCESTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 60> To: [email protected]> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 01:04:39 -0700> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. ROLAND SAMUEL BIDDLE - ENA L MASON (Eveline Clarke)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 19:22:04 -0000> From: "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]>> Subject: [WOR] ROLAND SAMUEL BIDDLE - ENA L MASON> To: <[email protected]>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Hi> > I have been given the marriage of Roland Samuel Biddle and Ena L Mason, they were married in the June Quarter 1937 in Worcester.> > Roland died in Malvern in 1987.> > I was wondering if there were any other persons on the Worcester list researching either Biddle or Mason.> > Regards> > Eveline> _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx

Dear members A forebearer of mine Robert WOODWARD was married by licence on 2nd March 1800 to Esther PAIN in presence of Thomas PAINE and someone with an indecipherable name. I am trying to locate Robert's birthplace/baptism since this was not Feckenham (according to parish records I searched) although at wedding both were 'of this parish' and sons Henry (1801) and Richard (1804) were born in Feckenham. At around the same time located in Feckenham (although I found no marriage records) were: Robert and Alice WOODWARD who had offspring baptised in Feckenham between 1776 and 1798; and John and Sarah WOODWARD who had offspring baptised in Feckenham between 1788 and 1801. There was also a William WOODWARD married to Rebecca STRAIN in Feckenham on 5th November 1789 with offspring between 1790 and 1795. Any ideas about how I might proceed would be most welcome. Thanks Sally (in Essex)

Eveline, Ah, I see now from your later mail that you have the index for a civil registration for the marriage between Samuel and Jane. Since you're certain it is theirs, I imagine it would be worth sending away for it, as it should at least give you some information on fathers and their occupation to help you on your way. Enjoy the trail, Katie de Haan ----- Original Message ----From: "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]> To: "Worcester Rootsweb" <[email protected]>; "Ann" <[email protected]>Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] 1881 Census Samuel Biddle born c 1867. One relation has him born in Warwickshire, but both the 1891 and the 1901 has him as born in Worcestershire. Samuel married Jane Hollands 1890 in Worcester 6c 491. They had 5 children Florence 1890, Samuel 1892, William 1895, Lucy 1899 and Jane 1901. Samuel was an Upholster on the 1891 and 1901 censuses and he was also an upholsterer on his son Samuel's marriage to Mary Gower. It is the 1881 census (if it is the correct one still not sure because of the Bedall). Sarah Biddle aged 46. She has 3 sons. William age 18, Samuel age 15 and Arthur age 7. As Sarah's parents are on the 1881 census (Frank and Susannah Knight), I have found her christening at St Clements 26th March 1837.

Eveline, The original of the 1881 record you quoted is written in a fairly clear hand and offers the following information about that household : 1881 Worcestershire, Worcester St Helen, District 8, Civil Parish of St Helen City of Worcester Municipal Ward of All Saints Parly Borough of Worcester Urban Sanitary district of Worcester at Nr 11 Friar Street BEDDALL Sarah Head widow 46 Charwoman Worcester do William son unm 18 labourer do do Samuel do do 15 do do do Arthur do 7 scholar do KNIGHT David father mar 78 Hawker London do Susannah mother do 67 Wolverhampton CROWLEY Daniel Boarder widr 72 scavenger Ireland Then the next house number immediately seems to leap to nr 20, abode of two Tripe Dressers called Latham, no link to the BEDDALL household. You say you have 1891; is that at South Claines, where he is an upholsterer of cabinets aged 24 at 7 St Stephen's Terrace, married to Jane 22 also from Claines with daughter Florence aged 1 b St Helen's? Well, he is the only one recorded as being from St Helen's in 1881, but there is also a Samuel BEDDALL b 1867 Netherton Worcester, bricklayer's servant, lodger, in Dudley Worcester, along with John and Noah BEDDALL who appear to be brothers. I'm afraid I haven't been able to find Sarah, William or Samuel from St Helen's in 1871 up to now, but then, who knows what spelling variation they might be under in that year.. I'll let you know if I do see anything, but you might be better off getting hold of the parish records somehow, to find a marriage for Samuel and Jane. Good luck in your search, Katie de Haan The Netherlands THACKWELL KEAT Worcs/Oxon/Berks/ KING PALMER LANGSTONE CARR POKINS HUTT Oxon/Berks UK KING JACKSON WEEDON Middlesex/London City/East End UK MCVEAN SINCLAIR MCKELLAR CLARK MITCHELL MCINTYRE Argyll, Renfrew > LKS MCCALLUM MUNRO BEATON BETHUNE ROSS: Sutherland, Ross & Cromarty > LKS MCCALLUM Perthshire 1700s BEATON BETHUNE Skye pre 1670 ----- Original Message -- From: "Eveline Clarke" <[email protected]> To: "Worcester Rootsweb" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: [WOR] 1881 Census >I was wondering if there was anyone with access to Ancestry.com who could >look up an original census for me. > > I am looking for Samuel Biddle born >c 1867 in Worcester. I have found a Samuel Beddall on Family Search >which looks as though it might be the right family, but it would be nice to >know if this is a transcription error, or maybe even a completely different >family. On this census his mother is a widow. >

Thanks to Katie for her reply and to Ruth for sending the actual image. I was hoping for an easy answer, but it does look as though we will have to look at the marriage to find out exactly who Samuel's parents are. I think that I am right as he says St Helens. But who knows, perhaps he is. Ta Eveline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katie de Haan" <[email protected]> To: "Worcester Rootsweb" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] 1881 Census > Eveline, > > The original of the 1881 record you quoted is written in a fairly clear > hand > and offers the following information about that household : > > 1881 Worcestershire, Worcester St Helen, District 8, > Civil Parish of St Helen City of Worcester Municipal Ward of All Saints > Parly Borough of Worcester Urban Sanitary district of Worcester at Nr 11 > Friar Street > BEDDALL Sarah Head widow 46 Charwoman Worcester > do William son unm 18 labourer do > do Samuel do do 15 do do > do Arthur do 7 scholar do > KNIGHT David father mar 78 Hawker London > do Susannah mother do 67 Wolverhampton > CROWLEY Daniel Boarder widr 72 scavenger Ireland > > Then the next house number immediately seems to leap to nr 20, abode of > two > Tripe Dressers called Latham, no link to the BEDDALL household. > > You say you have 1891; is that at South Claines, where he is an > upholsterer > of cabinets aged 24 at 7 St Stephen's Terrace, married to Jane 22 also > from > Claines with daughter Florence aged 1 b St Helen's? Well, he is the only > one recorded as being from St Helen's in 1881, but there is also a Samuel > BEDDALL b 1867 Netherton Worcester, bricklayer's servant, lodger, in > Dudley > Worcester, along with John and Noah BEDDALL who appear to be brothers. > > I'm afraid I haven't been able to find Sarah, William or Samuel from St > Helen's in 1871 up to now, but then, who knows what spelling variation > they > might be under in that year.. I'll let you know if I do see anything, but > you might be better off getting hold of the parish records somehow, to > find > a marriage for Samuel and Jane. > > Good luck in your search, > Katie de Haan > The Netherlands > > THACKWELL KEAT Worcs/Oxon/Berks/ > KING PALMER LANGSTONE CARR POKINS HUTT Oxon/Berks UK > KING JACKSON WEEDON Middlesex/London City/East End UK > MCVEAN SINCLAIR MCKELLAR CLARK MITCHELL MCINTYRE Argyll, Renfrew > LKS > MCCALLUM MUNRO BEATON BETHUNE ROSS: Sutherland, Ross & Cromarty > LKS > MCCALLUM Perthshire 1700s BEATON BETHUNE Skye pre 1670 > > > ----- Original Message -- From: "Eveline Clarke" > <[email protected]> > To: "Worcester Rootsweb" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: [WOR] 1881 Census >>I was wondering if there was anyone with access to Ancestry.com who could >>look up an original census for me. > > I am looking for Samuel Biddle born >>c 1867 in Worcester. I have found a Samuel Beddall on Family Search >>which looks as though it might be the right family, but it would be nice >>to >>know if this is a transcription error, or maybe even a completely >>different >>family. On this census his mother is a widow. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1319 - Release Date: > 08/03/2008 10:14 >

Hi Folks, Our next meeting is on Tuesday 11th March 2008 at 7.45 p.m. ************************************ ** This is the night of our branch A.G.M. After the official Business will be a Family Historian's Question Time. Remember this is what YOU asked for after last year's AGM. It would be nice if we could have some advance notice of any questions from our members. Please contact me directly. ******************************************************************************************************** *BMSGH* members wishing to have their name interests listed on our website should send their details to: Mike Yegwart at [email protected] Please supply the following: *Your name and email address, & surname interests for each area, _as well as your membership number._* -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman BromsgroveBMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/