In a message dated 10/4/2006 4:05:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, eng-wiltshire-request@rootsweb.com writes: It may be worth looking by trade in the later censuses to get an idea of families of carpenter ADLAM's, then following them back to see if there was a sibling John. Val Thanks Val I will keep that in mind as I look at other Adlam's in the census to try and find John's possible brother. Sherrye