My thanks to David H-B, Dot Gulliver and Anne, for their imput to my request. All has been noted and placed in the appropiate folder for further ref. I appreciate the time, and help, that you each have given me. There must be a moral in my story somewhere, about not posting to the List after one's bed-time !!!, I smiled when I read your reply Dot, about the gap of 118 years, before, the 1841 census !, at that time of the night, I couldn't tell the difference between 1823 and 1723, people like yourselves, must dispair with people like me <grin> Your reply was so informative, I will study further and come back to you. Again, thanks to you three Phyllis from down-under.