From Cyndes list came the addy for a free download of a UK Atlas http://www.geneabase.com/products.htm I just opened it and it is awesome, it is a BIG download and not for those on phonemodem (unless brave *G*). It is nice enough to make me think of "paying" for one of these, and I don't do that lightly LOL The usual applies, I have no interest in this except to share a nifty resource with the lists. Eliz