Thank you so much. I bet the Sarah Laight is her, as many in family LATES are from B'ham area. I have even found it spelled Yates in some records, no doubt a victim of handwriting. I think I just found gr grandpa under Yates. He has been nowhere in records under Lates except for his marriage. Each tiny clue can help so I thank you again. Liz ************** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001)