Paul, Are you the Vivash that used to be quite active on the Moonrakers site? My cornish ancestors were basically farmers, and mostly stayed put. I haven't got experience of them moving other than within Cornwall, except females marrying someone from away.The miners were much more mobile., some of them went out to Mexico.The parish reg I am transcribing at the moment has quite a few miners, and associated trades, some mining manganese , some describing themselves as whitesmiths etc. My Wiltshire and Cornish ancestry came together when my 2xgt grandmother Mary Lawry from St Anthony in Roseland married Simeon Usher from Trowbridge in 1849. Simeon was one of the three sons of Thomas Usher that went into the brewery with him. Thomas Usher 1790-1872 founded Ushers Wiltshire Ales. He and his wife, Hannah Messiter 1797-1880 had 11 children, 10 sons & 1 daughter! My gt gt grandfather Simeon Usher(Trowbridge) 1822-1858 was one of the surviving 8 sons. I have never found anyone else researching Messiter but I live in hope ! Regards, Nina ( in Ystalyfera)

Hi Nina (I have to stop myself writing 'Neena' which is my daughter in law's name) Yes, I have been on the Moonraker list for nigh on 20 years! It was just a long shot as regards our village here in Wales. My only connection with USHER is that I used to enjoy their fine ales. Another excellent Wiltshire brewery was Wadworth'sof Devizes! It doesn't look as though our genealogical paths are likely to meet but if you come across any clergymen in your ancestry I might be able to help. Since retiring from the Royal Air Force of Oman some 8½ years ago I have been incolved with the compilation of the Clergy of the Church of England database (1540 - 1835) and it so happens that at the moment I am transcribing registers of the Diocese of Exeter whch, of course, included Cornwall. Best wishes Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: " Nina" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Cornwall to Wales? > Paul, Are you the Vivash that used to be quite active on the Moonrakers > site? > My cornish ancestors were basically farmers, and mostly stayed put. I > haven't got experience of them moving other than within Cornwall, except > females marrying someone from away.The miners were much more mobile., some > of them went out to Mexico.The parish reg I am transcribing at the moment > has quite a few miners, and associated trades, some mining manganese , > some > describing themselves as whitesmiths etc. > My Wiltshire and Cornish ancestry came together when my 2xgt grandmother > Mary Lawry from St Anthony in Roseland married Simeon Usher from > Trowbridge > in 1849. Simeon was one of the three sons of Thomas Usher that went into > the > brewery with him. Thomas Usher 1790-1872 founded Ushers Wiltshire Ales. > He > and his wife, Hannah Messiter 1797-1880 had 11 children, 10 sons & 1 > daughter! My gt gt grandfather Simeon Usher(Trowbridge) 1822-1858 was one > of > the surviving 8 sons. I have never found anyone else researching Messiter > but I live in hope ! > Regards, Nina ( in Ystalyfera) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Nina, My 4xgr grandfather was Richard Usher, b. 1798 in Lydiard Tregoze. He was a younger brother of Thomas Usher and brother in-law of Hannah Messiter. I don't know much about Hannah, except that she was born around 1797 in Trowbridge to Stephen and Susannah Messiter. Most of my information relates to Richard's line and the Ushers in Australia. However, I also have some information on the Ushers of Trowbridge and some of Richard's other brothers. Richard and a number of the other brothers ended up in Bristol. Richard & James (b. 1796) are both known to have also been Brewers and Inn Keepers. I don't believe that either achieved Thomas's success. Happy to help if I can. Regards, Belinda Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 5:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Cornwall to Wales? Paul, Are you the Vivash that used to be quite active on the Moonrakers site? My cornish ancestors were basically farmers, and mostly stayed put. I haven't got experience of them moving other than within Cornwall, except females marrying someone from away.The miners were much more mobile., some of them went out to Mexico.The parish reg I am transcribing at the moment has quite a few miners, and associated trades, some mining manganese , some describing themselves as whitesmiths etc. My Wiltshire and Cornish ancestry came together when my 2xgt grandmother Mary Lawry from St Anthony in Roseland married Simeon Usher from Trowbridge in 1849. Simeon was one of the three sons of Thomas Usher that went into the brewery with him. Thomas Usher 1790-1872 founded Ushers Wiltshire Ales. He and his wife, Hannah Messiter 1797-1880 had 11 children, 10 sons & 1 daughter! My gt gt grandfather Simeon Usher(Trowbridge) 1822-1858 was one of the surviving 8 sons. I have never found anyone else researching Messiter but I live in hope ! Regards, Nina ( in Ystalyfera) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message