Most interesting, One of the Kershaws I found in the FreeBMD being born in Wiltshire (only three Kershaws born in Wilts around 1845) was a Hannah Name: Mary Hannah Kershaw Year of Registration: 1845 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Bradford Upon Avon County: Somerset, Wiltshire Volume: 8 Page: 169 On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> wrote: > Roger S Norris wrote: >> I am attempting to trace a birth and then the subsequent marriage of Annie >> Elizabeth KERSHAW. >> >> In the 1881 census (RG11/3469 Folio 86) Annie Elizabeth Pilling (formerly >> Kershaw) is shown as the wife of >> >> John Pilling and they are living at Werneth, Cheshire. >> >> However, she is shown as being born in Wiltshire at a town I cannot read. >> Her age is given as 35 yrs (born c 1846). > > It looks like Roghton but I can't find such a place in the index I > have or anything even close. > > This seems to be the only possible match, if it's a match at all: > > Marriages Jun 1861 > Kershaw  Hannah          Oldham  8d     927 > Pilling  John            Oldham  8d     927 > > She would only have been about 15 at the time, if she was born around > 1846.  It wouldn't have been illegal but she would have needed her > parents consent though. > > How have you come to the conclusion Annie Elizabeth KERSHAW married > John PILLING? > > Have you considered she might not have married at all or married after > the birth of the children? > >> I am attempting to find the birth of Annie Elizabeth Kershaw in Wiltshire >> and perhaps her marriage c 1872 to John Pilling. > > When Annie was born, the onus was on the registrar to find all the > newborns.  Inevitably, he would have missed some.  The parents were > supposed to register the child if the registrar didn't find them > within 6 weeks/42 days of the birth but with no fine to pay if they > didn't and perhaps believing baptism was registration enough, a good > number of children didn't get registered.  Later the onus changed and > it was the parents responsibility to ensure their children were > registered within the 6 week/42 day period or be fined. > > There's also the possibility the birth was registered but it either > didn't reach the GRO or wasn't included in the index for some reason. >  It might be worth checking with the local register offices to see if > they have the birth. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Eliz Hanebury wrote: > Most interesting, One of the Kershaws I found in the FreeBMD being > born in Wiltshire (only three Kershaws born in Wilts around 1845) was > a Hannah > > > Name: Mary Hannah Kershaw > Year of Registration: 1845 > Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec > District: Bradford Upon Avon > County: Somerset, Wiltshire > Volume: 8 > Page: 169 I found that one as well. Only problem is that she wasn't born in Bradford upon Avon, Wiltshire. She was born in Bradford, Yorkshire! For some reason all the Bradford entries for KERSHAW (and I suspect other surnames as well) have been given the volume number 8 when it should be 23. How it's happened I don't know; it could be an auto completion facility. The images are clear enough. There's someone on GenBrit who knows how to deal with this sort of situation. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> wrote: > Eliz Hanebury wrote: >> Most interesting, One of the Kershaws I found in the FreeBMD being >> born in Wiltshire (only three Kershaws born in Wilts around 1845) was >> a Hannah >> >> >> Name:         Mary Hannah Kershaw >> Year of Registration:         1845 >> Quarter of Registration:      Oct-Nov-Dec >> District:     Bradford Upon Avon >> County:       Somerset, Wiltshire >> Volume:       8 >> Page:         169 > > I found that one as well.  Only problem is that she wasn't born in > Bradford upon Avon, Wiltshire.  She was born in Bradford, Yorkshire! > > For some reason all the Bradford entries for KERSHAW (and I suspect > other surnames as well) have been given the volume number 8 when it > should be 23.  How it's happened I don't know; it could be an auto > completion facility.  The images are clear enough. > > There's someone on GenBrit who knows how to deal with this sort of > situation. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry for the blank email my pinkies got busy. Is that changing of volume number why all the Kershaws I found were born in Yorkshire? But it was odd, in the 1851 Census sample db there was an Ann Kershaw living Chesire, and one guess as to town. Eliz On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> wrote: > Eliz Hanebury wrote: >> Most interesting, One of the Kershaws I found in the FreeBMD being >> born in Wiltshire (only three Kershaws born in Wilts around 1845) was >> a Hannah >> >> >> Name:         Mary Hannah Kershaw >> Year of Registration:         1845 >> Quarter of Registration:      Oct-Nov-Dec >> District:     Bradford Upon Avon >> County:       Somerset, Wiltshire >> Volume:       8 >> Page:         169 > > I found that one as well.  Only problem is that she wasn't born in > Bradford upon Avon, Wiltshire.  She was born in Bradford, Yorkshire! > > For some reason all the Bradford entries for KERSHAW (and I suspect > other surnames as well) have been given the volume number 8 when it > should be 23.  How it's happened I don't know; it could be an auto > completion facility.  The images are clear enough. > > There's someone on GenBrit who knows how to deal with this sort of > situation. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Elizabeth, Thank you. Roger. -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eliz Hanebury Sent: 03 November 2010 18:35 To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Annie Elizabeth Kershaw Most interesting, One of the Kershaws I found in the FreeBMD being born in Wiltshire (only three Kershaws born in Wilts around 1845) was a Hannah Name: Mary Hannah Kershaw Year of Registration: 1845 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Bradford Upon Avon County: Somerset, Wiltshire Volume: 8 Page: 169 On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> wrote: > Roger S Norris wrote: >> I am attempting to trace a birth and then the subsequent marriage of Annie >> Elizabeth KERSHAW. >> >> In the 1881 census (RG11/3469 Folio 86) Annie Elizabeth Pilling (formerly >> Kershaw) is shown as the wife of >> >> John Pilling and they are living at Werneth, Cheshire. >> >> However, she is shown as being born in Wiltshire at a town I cannot read. >> Her age is given as 35 yrs (born c 1846). > > It looks like Roghton but I can't find such a place in the index I > have or anything even close. > > This seems to be the only possible match, if it's a match at all: > > Marriages Jun 1861 > Kershaw  Hannah          Oldham  8d     927 > Pilling  John            Oldham  8d     927 > > She would only have been about 15 at the time, if she was born around > 1846.  It wouldn't have been illegal but she would have needed her > parents consent though. > > How have you come to the conclusion Annie Elizabeth KERSHAW married > John PILLING? > > Have you considered she might not have married at all or married after > the birth of the children? > >> I am attempting to find the birth of Annie Elizabeth Kershaw in Wiltshire >> and perhaps her marriage c 1872 to John Pilling. > > When Annie was born, the onus was on the registrar to find all the > newborns.  Inevitably, he would have missed some.  The parents were > supposed to register the child if the registrar didn't find them > within 6 weeks/42 days of the birth but with no fine to pay if they > didn't and perhaps believing baptism was registration enough, a good > number of children didn't get registered.  Later the onus changed and > it was the parents responsibility to ensure their children were > registered within the 6 week/42 day period or be fined. > > There's also the possibility the birth was registered but it either > didn't reach the GRO or wasn't included in the index for some reason. >  It might be worth checking with the local register offices to see if > they have the birth. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message