Thank you John. I was beginning to despair! My information is as follows: John Palmer (dob &dod unknown) married Ann(e) Bodman at Langley Burrell (dob & dod both unknown.) The date of the marriage is 22nd March 1813. Elizabeth Palmer (mother or sister of John?) was a witness. Their children were Eliza (1814) Thirza (1816) Thomas Thomas (b1817) and Harriet (1821) Eliza and Thirza were christened at Langley Burrell, Thomas at Hilmarton, and Harriet was born at Lacock. John Palmer was described as a yeoman on the Lacock Tithe Map of 1839. Thomas was a butcher in London from 1845 onwards. I believe Ann(e) Bodman may be the daughter of the Bodman family who were butchers in Calne - Benjamin or Joseph. Thomas could have gained his early butchering skills within his mother's family. I believe John Palmer died between 1839 and 1845. Ann(e) remarried and may have gone to Frome. All of Thomas's sons were sent to boarding school in Frome. I have masses of info on the Palmers since my mother was the granddaughter of Thomas. I would be delighted to swap info with you if you think we have a link. Best wishes David Roberts On 16 December 2010 06:51, John M <jhwm1@btconnect.com> wrote: > Morning David > Im a direct Descendant of the Bodmans of Calne/Devizes. I have just noticed > your recent correspondence regarding the Bodmans and wonder whether I can > help/exchange info on the Family. As I have only just noticed your interest > I would be grateful of some info regarding your area of research. > Regards > John M > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Roberts > Sent: 04 December 2010 00:18 > To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] BODMAN, Calne, Universal British Directory, > 1791 (was PALMER & BODMAN marriage, Langley Burrell, 1813) > > Josephine , thank you so much. I have seen the will of Joseph Bodman, but > there was no mention of Ann in it, that I recall. I shall look at it in > more detail. > > Could you remind me of the meaning of (F) after a name? > > Two other names that crop up are Selman and Sainsbury. Ann Palmer was > witness to the Lacock marriage of George Selman and Jane Butcher. Thomas > Palmer's wife was friendly with Mrs Sainsbury (the grocers), since their > shops were only yards apart in Drury Lane. There are other Sainsburys > sprinkled about Langley Burrell as well as Frome. > > Family history research is rather like a drug, isn't it? > > Thanks again. > > Best wishes > > David > > > > On 3 December 2010 18:22, Josephine Jeremiah > <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com>wrote: > > > On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:55:06 -0000, David Roberts > > <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > > > > > Yes, I think Ann(e) Bodman might have been the daughter of the Bodman > > > butchers in Calne. > > > > Hi David, > > > > I had a feeling that your John PALMER and Ann(e) BODMAN might belong to > > families who had some standing in the community because they both signed > > the marriage register as did the witnesses at their marriage in 1813. > Some > > of my brides and grooms and their witnesses were still giving their marks > > on marriage registers in the second half of the 19th century. > > > > Was Ann(e) the daughter of Benjamin BODMAN, butcher? There's an entry for > > him in Calne in the Universal British Directory of 1791. Other entries > are > > for BODMAN, Jos. sen. (F.) Farmer and BODMAN Jos. jun. (F.) Farmer. There > > are entries for BODMAN Jos. sen. (F.) and BODMAN Jos. jun. among the 13 > > burgesses of Calne. The latter didn't have (F.) after his names in the > > burgess section of the Calne directory. > > > > Josephine > > > > -- > > Josephine Jeremiah > > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Morning David Let me check further but I think Harriet is related and a Benjamin B was my ggggg Grandfather. I will check furtheron this as well. My Benjamins son John Witts B owned Quermford Farm in Calne 1815 to 1898 off the top of my head. Don't want to unreasonably raise your hopes but same area, surname and period etc etc. Regards John -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Roberts Sent: 16 December 2010 08:42 To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] BODMAN, Calne, Universal British Directory, 1791 (was PALMER & BODMAN marriage, Langley Burrell, 1813) Thank you John. I was beginning to despair! My information is as follows: John Palmer (dob &dod unknown) married Ann(e) Bodman at Langley Burrell (dob & dod both unknown.) The date of the marriage is 22nd March 1813. Elizabeth Palmer (mother or sister of John?) was a witness. Their children were Eliza (1814) Thirza (1816) Thomas Thomas (b1817) and Harriet (1821) Eliza and Thirza were christened at Langley Burrell, Thomas at Hilmarton, and Harriet was born at Lacock. John Palmer was described as a yeoman on the Lacock Tithe Map of 1839. Thomas was a butcher in London from 1845 onwards. I believe Ann(e) Bodman may be the daughter of the Bodman family who were butchers in Calne - Benjamin or Joseph. Thomas could have gained his early butchering skills within his mother's family. I believe John Palmer died between 1839 and 1845. Ann(e) remarried and may have gone to Frome. All of Thomas's sons were sent to boarding school in Frome. I have masses of info on the Palmers since my mother was the granddaughter of Thomas. I would be delighted to swap info with you if you think we have a link. Best wishes David Roberts On 16 December 2010 06:51, John M <jhwm1@btconnect.com> wrote: > Morning David > Im a direct Descendant of the Bodmans of Calne/Devizes. I have just noticed > your recent correspondence regarding the Bodmans and wonder whether I can > help/exchange info on the Family. As I have only just noticed your interest > I would be grateful of some info regarding your area of research. > Regards > John M > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Roberts > Sent: 04 December 2010 00:18 > To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] BODMAN, Calne, Universal British Directory, > 1791 (was PALMER & BODMAN marriage, Langley Burrell, 1813) > > Josephine , thank you so much. I have seen the will of Joseph Bodman, but > there was no mention of Ann in it, that I recall. I shall look at it in > more detail. > > Could you remind me of the meaning of (F) after a name? > > Two other names that crop up are Selman and Sainsbury. Ann Palmer was > witness to the Lacock marriage of George Selman and Jane Butcher. Thomas > Palmer's wife was friendly with Mrs Sainsbury (the grocers), since their > shops were only yards apart in Drury Lane. There are other Sainsburys > sprinkled about Langley Burrell as well as Frome. > > Family history research is rather like a drug, isn't it? > > Thanks again. > > Best wishes > > David > > > > On 3 December 2010 18:22, Josephine Jeremiah > <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com>wrote: > > > On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:55:06 -0000, David Roberts > > <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > > > > > Yes, I think Ann(e) Bodman might have been the daughter of the Bodman > > > butchers in Calne. > > > > Hi David, > > > > I had a feeling that your John PALMER and Ann(e) BODMAN might belong to > > families who had some standing in the community because they both signed > > the marriage register as did the witnesses at their marriage in 1813. > Some > > of my brides and grooms and their witnesses were still giving their marks > > on marriage registers in the second half of the 19th century. > > > > Was Ann(e) the daughter of Benjamin BODMAN, butcher? There's an entry for > > him in Calne in the Universal British Directory of 1791. Other entries > are > > for BODMAN, Jos. sen. (F.) Farmer and BODMAN Jos. jun. (F.) Farmer. There > > are entries for BODMAN Jos. sen. (F.) and BODMAN Jos. jun. among the 13 > > burgesses of Calne. The latter didn't have (F.) after his names in the > > burgess section of the Calne directory. > > > > Josephine > > > > -- > > Josephine Jeremiah > > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sorry John, I see there was a typo in my message. Just to clarify, Thomas was the brother of Harriett, Eliza and Thirza. I see I repeated the name of Thomas. David On 16 December 2010 10:40, John M <jhwm1@btconnect.com> wrote: > Morning David > > Let me check further but I think Harriet is related and a Benjamin B was my > ggggg Grandfather. I will check furtheron this as well. My Benjamins son > John Witts B owned Quermford Farm in Calne 1815 to 1898 off the top of my > head. > > Don't want to unreasonably raise your hopes but same area, surname and > period etc etc. > > Regards > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Roberts > Sent: 16 December 2010 08:42 > To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] BODMAN, Calne, Universal British Directory, > 1791 (was PALMER & BODMAN marriage, Langley Burrell, 1813) > > Thank you John. I was beginning to despair! > > My information is as follows: > > John Palmer (dob &dod unknown) married Ann(e) Bodman at Langley Burrell > (dob > & dod both unknown.) The date of the marriage is 22nd March 1813. > Elizabeth Palmer (mother or sister of John?) was a witness. > > Their children were Eliza (1814) Thirza (1816) Thomas Thomas (b1817) and > Harriet (1821) > Eliza and Thirza were christened at Langley Burrell, Thomas at Hilmarton, > and Harriet was born at Lacock. > > John Palmer was described as a yeoman on the Lacock Tithe Map of 1839. > Thomas was a butcher in London from 1845 onwards. I believe Ann(e) Bodman > may be the daughter of the Bodman family who were butchers in Calne - > Benjamin or Joseph. Thomas could have gained his early butchering skills > within his mother's family. > > I believe John Palmer died between 1839 and 1845. Ann(e) remarried and may > have gone to Frome. All of Thomas's sons were sent to boarding school in > Frome. > > I have masses of info on the Palmers since my mother was the granddaughter > of Thomas. > > I would be delighted to swap info with you if you think we have a link. > > Best wishes > > David Roberts > > On 16 December 2010 06:51, John M <jhwm1@btconnect.com> wrote: > > > Morning David > > Im a direct Descendant of the Bodmans of Calne/Devizes. I have just > noticed > > your recent correspondence regarding the Bodmans and wonder whether I can > > help/exchange info on the Family. As I have only just noticed your > interest > > I would be grateful of some info regarding your area of research. > > Regards > > John M > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Roberts > > Sent: 04 December 2010 00:18 > > To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] BODMAN, Calne, Universal British Directory, > > 1791 (was PALMER & BODMAN marriage, Langley Burrell, 1813) > > > > Josephine , thank you so much. I have seen the will of Joseph Bodman, > but > > there was no mention of Ann in it, that I recall. I shall look at it in > > more detail. > > > > Could you remind me of the meaning of (F) after a name? > > > > Two other names that crop up are Selman and Sainsbury. Ann Palmer was > > witness to the Lacock marriage of George Selman and Jane Butcher. Thomas > > Palmer's wife was friendly with Mrs Sainsbury (the grocers), since their > > shops were only yards apart in Drury Lane. There are other Sainsburys > > sprinkled about Langley Burrell as well as Frome. > > > > Family history research is rather like a drug, isn't it? > > > > Thanks again. > > > > Best wishes > > > > David > > > > > > > > On 3 December 2010 18:22, Josephine Jeremiah > > <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com>wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:55:06 -0000, David Roberts > > > <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, I think Ann(e) Bodman might have been the daughter of the Bodman > > > > butchers in Calne. > > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > I had a feeling that your John PALMER and Ann(e) BODMAN might belong to > > > families who had some standing in the community because they both > signed > > > the marriage register as did the witnesses at their marriage in 1813. > > Some > > > of my brides and grooms and their witnesses were still giving their > marks > > > on marriage registers in the second half of the 19th century. > > > > > > Was Ann(e) the daughter of Benjamin BODMAN, butcher? There's an entry > for > > > him in Calne in the Universal British Directory of 1791. Other entries > > are > > > for BODMAN, Jos. sen. (F.) Farmer and BODMAN Jos. jun. (F.) Farmer. > There > > > are entries for BODMAN Jos. sen. (F.) and BODMAN Jos. jun. among the 13 > > > burgesses of Calne. The latter didn't have (F.) after his names in the > > > burgess section of the Calne directory. > > > > > > Josephine > > > > > > -- > > > Josephine Jeremiah > > > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >