Thank you, I think this means I have to buy the book right now <G> Eliz On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:35:52 -0000, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> But mostly I am interested in the Commoners and Burgesses of the town, >> does that get much mention - if you know. > > Hi Eliz, > > Yes, there are a number of references to them in the section on Local > Government, which covers around eight pages of A History of Malmesbury > (1999) by Jane Freeman and Aelred Watkin with > contributions by H.F. Chettle, Elizabeth Crittall and D.A. Crowley. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for the mind reading <G> This message just came in - after your answer to Mike <G> Eliz On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:36:02 -0000, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks for the mention of the book! I just put it on my wish list at >> Amazon <G> My Lewis' were Commoners and Burgess of the town and I am >> interested in finding more out about that <G> > > Hi Eliz, > > There's just one reference to LEWIS in the index of A History of > Malmesbury (1999) and that's for Joan LEWIS (nee LANGTON), who was the > sister of John LANGTON. This reference is in connection with John's will > dated 1660. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well, this one minus pictures is online at Malmesbury Town http://malmesburytown.com/history/history-of-malmesbury-dr-bernulf-hodge/ On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:36:02 -0000, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks for the mention of the book! I just put it on my wish list at >> Amazon <G> My Lewis' were Commoners and Burgess of the town and I am >> interested in finding more out about that <G> > > Hi Eliz and Listers, > > I also have a 36-page booklet A History of Malmesbury by Dr. Bernulf > Hodge. The first edition was printed in 1968 and my copy is the 7th > reprint of April 1998. > > This was published by the Friends of Malmesbury Abbey. > > There are 35 pages of text with three black-and-white sketches,three > copies of old prints and a sketch map of Old Malmesbury on Page 35. The > last page is a blank page. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Okay on the heels of Mike asking can I ask if you have any Lewis (surname) in the book P*nting too but they came from North Nibley in the early 1800's. But mostly I am interested in the Commoners and Burgesses of the town, does that get much mention - if you know. Eliz On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:35:22 -0000, Michael Wells <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> > wrote: > >> Could I ask if there are references to PIKE or GRAYLE/GRAYELL in the book >> please? > > Hi Mike, > > There's no reference to PIKE, but there are three references to GRAYLE in > A History of Malmesbury (1999) by Jane Freeman and Aelred Watkin with > contributions by H.F. Chettle, Elizabeth Crittall and D.A. Crowley. > > On page 39, Henry GRAYLE is mentioned in connection with Adam ARCHARD and > Thomas HALL selling the lands of Burton Hill manor to him in 1577. There's > a reference on this page to Henry GRAYLE and his son David buying > Cowbridge Mill and other lands from Nicholas ARCHARD in 1612. > > On page 95, there's a reference to Henry GRAYLE in 1654 giving a rent > charge of £10 per year from lands in Great Somerford so that poor children > of Malmesbury could be apprenticed. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This one is proving more elusive to find <G> but how great it is to hear about these books. Eliz On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:36:02 -0000, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks for the mention of the book! I just put it on my wish list at >> Amazon <G> My Lewis' were Commoners and Burgess of the town and I am >> interested in finding more out about that <G> > > Hi Eliz and Listers, > > Another 36-page booklet on my bookshelf is Malmesbury Beyond 2000 > Yesterday Today Tomorrow by David Critchlow with Peter Osgood Design and > Publishing. August 1990 First Edition. > > This has 28 black-and-white photographs showing the architecture of the > town. There are two full-page sketch maps of Malmesbury -- Burghal Hidage > c.890 and Bishop Roger's Works c.118-39. There are two full-page modern > sketch maps of the town. There is also a contour plan of the site of > Malmesbury on the back cover. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for the mention of the book! I just put it on my wish list at Amazon <G> My Lewis' were Commoners and Burgess of the town and I am interested in finding more out about that <G> Eliz On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:12 AM, <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 00:23:56 -0000, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Mr Lewis was born in Malemsburg(sic), Wiltshire England, January 5 1839 >> and went to >> Cleveland with his parents in 1844. > > Mention of Malmesbury has reminded me that I have an interesting book > about the town on my bookshelf. > > A History of Malmesbury (1999) by Jane Freeman and Aelred Watkin with > contributions by H.F. Chettle, Elizabeth Crittall and D.A. Crowley, > published by Wiltshire County Council in conjunction with the Warden and > Freemen of Malmesbury. > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 00:23:56 -0000, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> wrote: > Mr Lewis was born in Malemsburg(sic), Wiltshire England, January 5 1839 > and went to > Cleveland with his parents in 1844. Mention of Malmesbury has reminded me that I have an interesting book about the town on my bookshelf. A History of Malmesbury (1999) by Jane Freeman and Aelred Watkin with contributions by H.F. Chettle, Elizabeth Crittall and D.A. Crowley, published by Wiltshire County Council in conjunction with the Warden and Freemen of Malmesbury. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Frances BROOKES (nee PAYNE) was the sister of my great-grandfather, Sydney PAYNE. She was born about 1863 in Temple Cloud, Somerset and married Alfred BROOKES, who was a widower. The marriage of Frances PAYNE and Alfred William BROOKES was registered in Lambeth, Surrey in the March quarter 1901. At the time of the 1901 census, Frances and Alfred BROOKES were living in Easton Royal, near Pewsey, Wiltshire. Frances was 38 and her birthplace was recorded as Somerset, Temple Cloud. Alfred BROOKES was a 50-year-old carpenter, working 'on his own account' at home. His birthplace, like that of his children, was Easton Royal. Children in the household were daughters Elsie (middle initial unclear), 14, Eva M., 10, and 9-year-old son Francis S. (That middle initial should be be an L.) At the time of the 1911 census the BROOKES family was still in Easton Royal. Alfred William BROOKES, 60, was a carpenter and wheelwright. Other family members in the household were Frances BROOKES, 48, Francis Lilburn BROOKES, 19, a carpenter, Ida May BROOKES, 8, and Gwendoline BROOKES, 6. The sixth member of the household was Florence Mary PIPER, aged 20 and single, who was an assistant school mistress at 'C.E. Schools'. She was born in Bristol. Does anyone have any links with or any further information about this BROOKES family, please? -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hello Listers, I am new to the Eng-Wiltshire list, but have been a member of other rootsweb lists for a number of years. I am currently looking at the DERHAM family of Easton Royal, Pewsey, Wiltshire. Sarah Ann DERHAM (nee PAYNE) was the sister of my great-grandfather, Sydney PAYNE. She was born in 1850 in Temple Cloud, Cameley, Somerset. The marriage of Sarah Ann PAYNE and John DERHAM was registered in the June quarter of 1881 in London. I have 1891 census information for this couple, when they were living at Clee St. Margaret, Shropshire and 1901 and 1911 census information for them and their daughter, Elsie, when they were living at Easton Royal, Wiltshire. At the time of the 1901 census, Sarah, 40, John, 44, and their daughter 8-year-old daughter Elsie were living in Easton Royal. Sarah's birthplace was Temple Cloud. John's birthplace was Pimlico, London and his occupation was schoolmaster for a Church of England school. Elsie's birthplace was Bristol, Gloucestershire. The 1911 census shows that the DERHAM family was still in Easton Royal. John DERHAM, 54, was Head Teacher of a County Council Elementary School. No occupation was listed for Sarah Ann DERHAM, 50, while Elsie A. DERHAM, 18, was a milliner. Does anyone have any links with or any further information about this DERHAM family, please? Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Publication: Brooklyn Eagle; Date: Jul 30, 1898; Section: None; Page: 14 The funeral of the late Henry Lewis will take place at Cleveland Ohio today. The interment will be in Lake View Cemetery, that city. Mr Lewis's home was at 869 President st this borough, and the news of his sudden death came as a sorrowful surprise to his many friends in New York City and in other parts of the country. Mr Lewis was born in Malemsburg(sic), Wiltshire England, January 5 1839 and went to Cleveland with his parents in 1844. Here he soon gave evidence of excellent business ability and while yet a young man became a member of the firm of Outhwaite, Shurmer and Co., refiners [my note; his brother George was a silent partner in the firm] after ward Clark, Shurmer and Co, early in the 60's he went to Oil City, Pa to buy oil for his firm from the producers along Oil Creek and from that time til his death on Tuesday he was a prominent figure in the oil business as a buyer and producer. Until the organization of the South Improvement Company in 1872 he was connected with the firm of Clark, Shurmer and Co and when that organization took place and the company disposed of its interest to the Standard Oil Company Mr Lewis connected himself with the latter organization as buyer and shipper. He was one of the organizers of the American Oil Company in Bradford in 1876 which operated widely throughout the oil belt of McKean county with great success. Mr Lewis remained a resident of Oil City until about 1884, when he came to New York to take charge of the shipping department of the Standard Oil Company. During his residence here his life has been marked by many deeds of quiet benevolence. Affable and thoughtful always of the feeling of others, slow to condemn, even of temper those who made his acquaintance grew to love him for his rare qualities. Mr Lewis was married twice. His first wife was Miss Sarah Blackwell, who died in 1883. Of this union four children George H. Lewis, Mrs W. VH. Robinson, Frank b. Lewis and Fred Lewis survive him. In 1888 he was married to Miss Anna V. Dunham of Somerville, N. J. of this union his wife and daughter Dorothy survive him. Mr Lewis was a charter member of the Montauk Club.

Can anyone tell me if Persis is still in Wiltshire as I need to get in touch with her. Many thanks Toni

Hi, Would anyone have a marriage for a William SAMPSON and Hannah ?? they have one child born 1743 Garsdon, I have no others and wonder if he died or remarried because then I have a William SAMPSON and a Martha. What is worse so far cannot track a poss. birth for William so he must have migrated. Many thanks Toni

I would love to hear from anyone who can tell me something about the history of this farm. My gggrandfather William ISAAC was working there in the 1840’s as a milk man. He married a widow Rebecca Reynolds(nee Freeman) in 1843, who he had met while working on the farm, she was a chamber maid, aged 29 on her wedding certificate but really 31 and he was 19!!! Alan Isaac Wellington New Zealand

Ill back that up. Nimrod give extemely good service. daphne. --- On Mon, 15/11/10, Karen Rogers <waidemar@people.net.au> wrote: From: Karen Rogers <waidemar@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Research To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 15, November, 2010, 5:06 PM Hi Toni I have used David and Jenny Carter from Nimrod indexes loads of times over the years they are efficient and reasonably priced Their email address is enquiries@nimrodresearch.co.uk Regards Karen Rogers Member of the Guild of One Name Studies for the surname Liddiard Researching the surname Liddiard World wide -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Toni Evans Sent: Monday, 15 November 2010 3:00 PM To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Research Hello all,   Could anyone recommend a researcher to do a fairly small (I think !) job for me at the Library or Archives, it involves looking at the original film for Lea and Cleverton, I have the transcripts on fiche and they do not corrospond with what I found on doing the film moons ago. Because a new sibling has turned up in one of my families which I must have missed and another is not there on transcripts that I found I would like to sort this out, from memory the film was indeed very 'messy' to read.   Regards Toni  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all and many thanks for your replies to this and other requests just lately.   I did write to the Wiltshire RO but their reply was this is a standard research even though it involves their transcriptions to fiche.   Regards Toni            --- On Tue, 16/11/10, ramsbury244@ntlworld.com <ramsbury244@ntlworld.com> wrote: From: ramsbury244@ntlworld.com <ramsbury244@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Research To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 16, November, 2010, 1:20 AM Toni, If you go to the Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre (formerly the Wiltshire Record Office) website at http://www.wshc.eu/ and click on the 'Our Services' tab, then click on 'Archives' , then click on 'Enquiries and research', there are details of their research facilities.. As your request seems fairly small and straightforward, they may be able to help you by either recommending a researcher or perhaps doing it themselves.. Julia -----Original Message----- From: Toni Evans Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:00 AM To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Research Hello all, Could anyone recommend a researcher to do a fairly small (I think !) job for me at the Library or Archives, it involves looking at the original film for Lea and Cleverton, I have the transcripts on fiche and they do not corrospond with what I found on doing the film moons ago. Because a new sibling has turned up in one of my families which I must have missed and another is not there on transcripts that I found I would like to sort this out, from memory the film was indeed very 'messy' to read. Regards Toni ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all,   Could anyone recommend a researcher to do a fairly small (I think !) job for me at the Library or Archives, it involves looking at the original film for Lea and Cleverton, I have the transcripts on fiche and they do not corrospond with what I found on doing the film moons ago. Because a new sibling has turned up in one of my families which I must have missed and another is not there on transcripts that I found I would like to sort this out, from memory the film was indeed very 'messy' to read.   Regards Toni 

Hi Toni I have used David and Jenny Carter from Nimrod indexes loads of times over the years they are efficient and reasonably priced Their email address is enquiries@nimrodresearch.co.uk Regards Karen Rogers Member of the Guild of One Name Studies for the surname Liddiard Researching the surname Liddiard World wide -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Toni Evans Sent: Monday, 15 November 2010 3:00 PM To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Research Hello all,   Could anyone recommend a researcher to do a fairly small (I think !) job for me at the Library or Archives, it involves looking at the original film for Lea and Cleverton, I have the transcripts on fiche and they do not corrospond with what I found on doing the film moons ago. Because a new sibling has turned up in one of my families which I must have missed and another is not there on transcripts that I found I would like to sort this out, from memory the film was indeed very 'messy' to read.   Regards Toni  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Toni, If you go to the Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre (formerly the Wiltshire Record Office) website at http://www.wshc.eu/ and click on the 'Our Services' tab, then click on 'Archives' , then click on 'Enquiries and research', there are details of their research facilities. As your request seems fairly small and straightforward, they may be able to help you by either recommending a researcher or perhaps doing it themselves. Julia -----Original Message----- From: Toni Evans Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:00 AM To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Research Hello all, Could anyone recommend a researcher to do a fairly small (I think !) job for me at the Library or Archives, it involves looking at the original film for Lea and Cleverton, I have the transcripts on fiche and they do not corrospond with what I found on doing the film moons ago. Because a new sibling has turned up in one of my families which I must have missed and another is not there on transcripts that I found I would like to sort this out, from memory the film was indeed very 'messy' to read. Regards Toni ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jim, Thanks so much for responding to my query regarding James and Grace ISLEY. Now I am really confused! A few years back, I had someone in Trowbridge researching my Wiltshire ISLEY folks for me and she gave me the following info, and I've always wondered about these facts! Grace Pryer ISLEY died February 1843 - the bell tolled for her on February 25, 1843 and she was buried in St James Churchyard. And then according to James ISLEY's probate document (Jacob ISLEY, his son, was executor) James died on February 24, 1851. Isn't that a strange coincidence? And now you tell me he didn't live to see 1851. Could someone gotten confused over when the parents died? Our local LDS Family History Center here in Ft Myers closed a few years back so I can't order films anymore. I would appreciate any help you can give me and hopefully you will solve my mystery when you get to visit the graveyards. BTW, Simon ISLEY is really SIMEON ISLEY. And there's a few of them, just to drive me insane. There's also several James, William, Jacob, Edward (boatloads of them) and Henry floating around. I never knew there were so many ISLEYs. Your revelation rocks the basis of my ISLEY family tree, but certainly, it's something that needs to be addressed. I've just started looking for another researcher in Wiltshire so now I really have to get cracking with this project. Again, thanks so much for your help and I look forward to hearing from you. Best regards, Karen Isley Seiferth Ft Myers, FL Looking ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Parsons" <wiltsresearcher@yahoo.co.uk> To: "wilts rootsweb" <ENG-WILTSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 5:13 AM Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] ISLEY - Grace and James > In 1841 James and Grace ISLEY lived in Duke Street TROWBRIDGE Wiltshire. > > James was recorded as aged 70 and Grace aged 60. > > Next Door? lived Simon and Sarah (ages 19 and 18) with 1 year old Eliza. > (They appear to have married 1838 in BRADFORD ON AVON Regn Dist) > > Grace Isley died 1843 MELKSHAM Regn Dist (which included TROWBRIDGE) James > died before 31st December 1850 also MELKSHAM Regn Dist. > > There is both a ST JAMES and a HOLY TRINITY in Trowbridge. > > I will check the graveyards when I visit next week. > > Jim in Frome > > OPC CORSLEY and HORNINGSHAM > http://www.payman.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk > > Over 20,000 names in the tree > Have now found the WOODs and WOODLANDs (+ a BUSH) > BIRDs are in the trees include SPARROWs > Have also BUTLER's, BUTCHER's, BAKER's, COOK's and CAKE's (even OVENS) > Have KINGs, PRINCEs and DUKE's, PARSONS, POPEs & BISHOPs > But mostly Ag Labs > Happy Hunting > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Don Haven't found any Bryants in my lot from Bristol. Will let you know if any turn up. They went to Ebbw Vale at the turn of the century to work in the steel factory but came some returned to Salisbury in the 1930's. David Thomas Cornwall ----- Original Message ---- From: Don Bryant <dbryant@bigpond.net.au> To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 9 November, 2010 22:54:14 Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Bryant Great Wishford Hi David, I don't believe I can help you with your particular BRYANT search; but similar to yourself, I am trying to locate the birth and ancestry of a Robert BRYANT who was my GGGrandfather. All I know is that he was living in Bristol at the time of the 1841 Census where he is recorded as born c1814 'not in county'. Unfortunately, he didn't live to the 1851 census where I might have got his actual place of birth. As part of your BRYANT research, if you should stumble across such a person, I'd love to hear from you. I could then fill you in on his descendents. Regards, Don Bryant ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message