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    1. [ENG-WILTSHIRE] HAGUE - Westbury Dilton Salisbury Southampton - Moravian origins?
    2. GlenChris Fowler
    3. I have been trying to trace the origin of a HAGUE family for years. I have Valentine HAGUE m. Sarah MILLARD in Dilton, 1799 and I have no idea where he came from originally. I had heard that the Hagues were Huguenots 'who had walked all the way from Bristol to Dilton' but I can't find anything to back that up. You can see how far I have gone with my tracking at http://www.soton.ac.uk/~caf1/names.htm#HAGUE However, yesterday I was browsing the Bristol Mercury online and I came across a reference to a Hague missionary (a Moravian minister) from Bristol, who had died in Jamaica in the 1840s. There were some other fairly sparse references around the period 1835-1840 to a family of Hagues being Moravians. This is such a long shot, but I wondered if there were any listers who know how I might do some more digging about the Moravians in Bristol, particularly church registers. There isn't anything in RG4 online that I can see. Also, if anyone is on a Bristol-specific list, I would be very grateful if you could forward this note. Many thanks, Chris Fowler Wimborne Dorset

    12/03/2010 02:28:43
    1. Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] PERRETT, Guild of One-Name Studies
    2. Lenore Hailstone
    3. Thanks for that response. My husband descends from Charlotte Hailstone who married John Perrett 30 October 1790 after her son was baptized Stephen Hailstone in September of that year. She and John had sons, William, John, George and James, the first two baptized in Patney, the last two in Beechingstoke (where Charlotte and Stephen were both baptized. I spoke without checking (always a bad mistake) when I said Pewsey. I have been searching for descendants from this line for a DNA test which my husband could do and see if this is really his line or not. So far according to the person I corresponded with in the Perrett society, they have none. so thanks to any and everyone for a response! Lenore ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 5:18 AM Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] PERRETT, Guild of One-Name Studies On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:43:13 -0000, Lenore Hailstone <lenhai@charter.net> wrote: > That was a lot of names, but none of mine turned up. I am searching > White, Parsons, Hailstone, Perrett. On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 10:44:06 -0000, DAVID THOMAS <grampy1947@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi I notice that among your names is PERRETT. My PERRETT line seems to > centre around Wilton and Quidhampton near Salisbury later moving to > Christchurch > (Hampshire) Dorset. Any link with yours? Hi Lenore and David, I expect you probably already know that PERRETT is a name registered with The Guild of One-name Studies, but if you don't here's the web site. http://www.one-name.org/ This reminds me that I have a PERRETT in my family tree, whom I haven't done any research on yet. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/03/2010 02:25:10
    1. Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Pigot & Co's Trade Directory of 1830 for Wiltshire
    2. David Roberts
    3. Many thanks, Josephine. I may go for the CD, but at present I am hoping to combine a trip to Cornwall later this month with a stop-off at the Wiltshire CRO where I am sure they'll have the directories anyway. I am pursuing John Palmer who married Ann(e) Bodman at Langley Burrell in 1813. I have their children, but no knowledge about John's age, burial, or his antecedents. If you see any relevant Palmers or Bodmans knocking around, please let me know! Best wishes David Roberts On 3 December 2010 09:10, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com>wrote: > On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:52:07 -0000, David Roberts > <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > > > Great! Thank you very much. > > Sorry, David. I included you in my reply about An Index of the Poll of the > Freeholders of Wiltshire, whereas you had responded to my post on Pigot & > Co's Trade Directory of 1830 for Wiltshire. > > I am trying to get to grips with using a PC after many years of using an > Acorn computer and I am switching backwards and forwards between posts > received and the message I am composing. > > Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed the index for Pigot & Co's Trade Directory of > 1830 for Wiltshire. I think that a CD of this Directory used to be > available from Archive CD Books. I know that I have some later Kelly's > Directories of Wiltshire on CD from Archive CD Books. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/03/2010 02:20:53
    1. Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Pigot & Co's Trade Directory of 1830 for Wiltshire
    2. Josephine Jeremiah
    3. On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:52:07 -0000, David Roberts <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > Great! Thank you very much. Sorry, David. I included you in my reply about An Index of the Poll of the Freeholders of Wiltshire, whereas you had responded to my post on Pigot & Co's Trade Directory of 1830 for Wiltshire. I am trying to get to grips with using a PC after many years of using an Acorn computer and I am switching backwards and forwards between posts received and the message I am composing. Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed the index for Pigot & Co's Trade Directory of 1830 for Wiltshire. I think that a CD of this Directory used to be available from Archive CD Books. I know that I have some later Kelly's Directories of Wiltshire on CD from Archive CD Books. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

    12/03/2010 02:10:32
    1. Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] The History of Chippenham A.D. 853-1946 by Arnold Platts M.A. Ph.D.
    2. Josephine Jeremiah
    3. On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 02:23:14 -0000, Paul Beard <paulbeard@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd love to see those maps and plates. Hi Paul, Unfortunately, The History of Chippenham A. D. 853-1946 by Arnold Platts M.A. Ph.D. is still in copyright so I can't share the maps and illustrations. It's a pity because they are very clear. The cover shows the Old Town Hall and the frontispiece is the Coat of Arms of the Borough Of Chippenham. The black-and-white illustrations include The Buttery and the Shambles, The Town Bridge and High Street, "Bell Inn", Market Place and Chippenham Station, 1850. The air view is Westinghouse Brake & Signal Co. Ltd. I do share other finds, but they have to be from the 18th and 19th centuries and well out of copyright. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

    12/03/2010 01:56:04
    1. Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] An Index of the Poll of Freeholders of Wlitshire, 1772
    2. On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:52:07 -0000, David Roberts <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > Great! Thank you very much. On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 00:46:01 -0000, B & L Copeland <lebrac3@bigpond.com> wrote: > Thank you for sharing this Index. I am sure some of my ancestors are > there. Surnames being BRAZIER, ROGERS & WATTS. Hi David and Leonie, Thanks for your responses. It's always a bit difficult, when joining a new list, to know whether list members are already aware of such resources. Now that I know that information like this is welcomed I will pass on other useful sites, which I find. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

    12/03/2010 01:43:07
    1. [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Qualification to vote in 18th-century elections (was An Index of the Poll of Freeholders of Wlitshire, 1772)
    2. Josephine Jeremiah
    3. On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:43:13 -0000, Lenore Hailstone <lenhai@charter.net> wrote: > That was a lot of names, but none of mine turned up. I am searching > White, Parsons, Hailstone, Perrett. What did it take to be able to vote > in those early days? I am sure mine were all pretty poor folk. > thanks for the posting, though! I am sure it must have helped lots of > people! Hi Lenore, I can't give a definite answer to your question of 'What did it take to be able to vote in those early days?', but I would think that the qualification to vote was based on property. In Bristol, burgesses of the city were also among those who voted in the 18th-century elections. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

    12/03/2010 01:31:42
    1. [ENG-WILTSHIRE] The History of Chippenham A.D. 853-1946 by Arnold Platts M.A. Ph.D.
    2. Josephine Jeremiah
    3. On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 21:02:21 -0000, Mike <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Frances George GRAYLE, b c 1822 in Malmesbury was my gggf. I have > managed to find bits and pieces about his siblings and that his parents > were Wiliam GRAYLE b 1796 also Malmesbury born and Mary LEVITT b c 1797 > in Chippenham. This reference to Chippenham reminded me that I have a little book about this town on my bookshelves. It took me some time to find as I haven't looked at it for a while and it is a quite a slim book of 99 pages. The History of Chippenham A. D. 853-1946 by Arnold Platts M.A. Ph.D. It's undated, but there's a bookseller's note attached to the front endpaper saying that it was published 1946-1947 and that it is a scarce publication of this Wiltshire town. The book is illustrated with six line drawings and one photograph, taken from the air. There are four maps. The first map is of the Wiltshire Hundreds. The second map is of The Borough Lands, 1781 and this one has field names. The third map shows Burgess Houses, Commencement of Nineteenth Century. The fourth map is of Borough of Chippenham showing Boro' Boundaries. I think I bought the book at a PBFA Book Fair in Bradford-on-Avon in 2004. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

    12/02/2010 05:15:25
    1. Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Pigot & Co's Trade Directory of 1830 for Wiltshire
    2. David Roberts
    3. Great! Thank you very much. David Roberts On 2 December 2010 22:53, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com>wrote: > As I'm new to the Eng-Wiltshire List, the following web page on Pigot & > Co's Trade Directory of 1830 for Wiltshire is new to me, so I thought I > would pass it on. Most list members probably know about it already, but > there may be some who haven't seen it before. > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pobjoyoneill/tradedir/wilt1830/wilt1830.htm > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/02/2010 04:52:07
    1. [ENG-WILTSHIRE] An Index of the Poll of Freeholders of Wlitshire, 1772
    2. This looks interesting with lots of names: An Index of the Poll of the Freeholders of Wiltshire -- Surname Index to the Wiltshire Polls of 1772 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pobjoyoneill/ENGPOLLS/wil1772.html -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

    12/02/2010 04:12:56
    1. Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] GRAYLE
    2. J GOULD
    3. Mike, I am attaching a file which includes Westport which is a part of Malmesbury.  I can add the spouses to the marriages but that will take a little longer.  There were one or two gaps in the parish records.  I don't have any specific Non-con records. Jeff ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 2 December, 2010 22:40:37 Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] GRAYLE Hello Jeff Yes please to the Marriages & Burials. I presume there are gaps in the registers!!  Especially in the 1771 to 1791 period I also presume that these are from the Abbey.  Are there any for the Nonconformists please?  I imagine that there would be lots more after 1791. Thanks again Mike

    12/02/2010 04:06:08
    1. Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] GRAYELL & WILLIAMS, Pigot's Directory of Wilshire of 1830 ( was GRAYLE)
    2. Josephine Jeremiah
    3. On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 22:51:20 -0000, Mike <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Hello Josephine > No I didn't, what does it say about them in Pigot's please? Hi Mike, I don't have a copy of Pigot's Directory of Wiltshire of 1830, myself, but looking in the rootsweb archives I see that GRAYELL & WILLIAMS, in High Street, Malmesbury, were listed under Bricklayers and Masons and Mary GRAYELL, who was also in High Street, was listed under Milliners & Dressmakers. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

    12/02/2010 04:04:40
    1. [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Pigot & Co's Trade Directory of 1830 for Wiltshire
    2. Josephine Jeremiah
    3. As I'm new to the Eng-Wiltshire List, the following web page on Pigot & Co's Trade Directory of 1830 for Wiltshire is new to me, so I thought I would pass it on. Most list members probably know about it already, but there may be some who haven't seen it before. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pobjoyoneill/tradedir/wilt1830/wilt1830.htm Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

    12/02/2010 03:53:10
    1. [ENG-WILTSHIRE] GRAYELL & WILLIAMS, Pigot's Directory of Wilshire of 1830 ( was GRAYLE)
    2. Josephine Jeremiah
    3. On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 21:02:21 -0000, Mike <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > As Josephine Jeremiah has found the GRAYLE name was to be found in > Malmesbury well before the introduction of registration in 1837. > Frances George GRAYLE, b c 1822 in Malmesbury was my gggf. I have > managed to find bits and pieces about his siblings and that his parents > were Wiliam GRAYLE b 1796 also Malmesbury born and Mary LEVITT b c 1797 > in Chippenham. Hi Mike, I expect that you already know that there is a reference to GRAYELL & WILLIAMS, Malmesbury and Mary GRAYELL, Malmesbury in Pigot's Directory of Wiltshire of 1830, but nothing ventured nothing gained. There's an index to names in Wiltshire beginining with G here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pobjoyoneill/tradedir/wilt1830/wilt1830G.htm Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

    12/02/2010 03:48:04
    1. Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] GRAYLE
    2. J GOULD
    3. Mike, You may find the following useful' Malmesbury Bapts 1774 Dec-28 GRAYAL? Mosamona? dau of Richard & Mary 1717 Sep-13 GRAYLE Robert son of Richard & Anne 1718 illeg GRAYLE illeg illeg 1718 illeg GRAYLE illeg illeg 1718 Nov-06 GRAYLE James son of John & Ruth 1743 Dec-11 GRAYLE Ann dau of Robert & Ann 1745 Jul-14 GRAYLE Richard son of Richard & Jane 1747 Jul-10 GRAYLE Susanna dau of Richard & Susanna 1747 Jan-17 GRAYLE Mary dau of Robert & Ann 1749 Apr-26 GRAYLE John son of Robert & Hester 1749 Mar-04 GRAYLE Ann dau of Robert & Hester 1751 May-08 GRAYLE Richard son of Robert & Anne 1751 Aug-19 GRAYLE Hannah dau of Richard & Jane 1753 Mar-09 GRAYLE William son of Richard & Jane 1755 Feb-26 GRAYLE Robert son of Richard & Jane 1755 Jun-15 GRAYLE Sarah dau of Robert & Ann 1761 Feb-27 GRAYLE Hannah Rymell illegitimate dau of Anne 1771 Jun-02 GRAYLE William son of James & Sarah 1771 Sep-08 GRAYLE Philip son of John & Elizabeth 1771 Sep-22 GRAYLE Sophia dau of Richard & Mary 1791 Jun-05 GRAYLE John son of William & Fortune? 1794 May-11 GRAYLE Henry Houtson son of Sophia 1801 Jan-11 GRAYLE Ann dau of Charlotte 1819 Jun-28 GRAYLE James Henry son of Emmanuel & Mary labourer 1742 Jan-06 GRAYLE or GAY Thomas son of Thomas & Mary 1623 Mar-24 GRAYLE? Robert son of Henry I have the marriage and burial details if these are of interest.  Jeff ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 2 December, 2010 21:02:21 Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] GRAYLE Hello As Josephine Jeremiah has found the GRAYLE name was to be found in Malmesbury well before the introduction of registration in 1837. Frances George GRAYLE, b c 1822 in Malmesbury was my gggf.  I have managed to find bits and pieces about his siblings and that his parents were Wiliam GRAYLE b 1796 also Malmesbury born and Mary LEVITT b c 1797 in Chippenham. Beyond either of those I have been able to find nothing. Is anyone able to help with earlier generations especially of the GRAYLEs, please? I would also love to be able to join tigether the GRAYLE name, which morphed into GRAYELL about 1830, with the GRAYELL and even the GRAIL names which also appear in Malmesbury people. Thanks Mike ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/02/2010 03:33:47
    1. Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] GRAYELL, Pigot's Directory of Wilshire of 1842 ( was GRAYLE)
    2. Eliz Hanebury
    3. Since Josephine found the 1830, here is the much skimpier 1842 (as far as Grayell goes) MILLINERS & DRESS MAKERS Grayell Mary, Oxford st STRAW HAT MAKERS. Fullaway Elizabeth, High st Grayell Martha, Oxford st BRICKLAYERS & MASONS. Grayell William, High st Mills Joseph, High street Pike George, Back hill Thompson Thomas, Great Sherston ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well given a few minutes, I will hunt out my copy of the 1830 Pigots <G> that website just made me want more <G> and hey guess what, my drive worked! Oh joy <G> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 21:02:21 -0000, Mike <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > >> As Josephine Jeremiah has found the GRAYLE name was to be found in >> Malmesbury well before the introduction of registration in 1837. > >> Frances George GRAYLE, b c 1822 in Malmesbury was my gggf.  I have >> managed to find bits and pieces about his siblings and that his parents >> were Wiliam GRAYLE b 1796 also Malmesbury born and Mary LEVITT b c 1797 >> in Chippenham. > > Hi Mike, > > I expect that you already know that there is a reference to GRAYELL & > WILLIAMS, Malmesbury and Mary GRAYELL, Malmesbury in Pigot's Directory of > Wiltshire of 1830, but nothing ventured nothing gained. > > There's an index to names in Wiltshire beginining with G here: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pobjoyoneill/tradedir/wilt1830/wilt1830G.htm > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/02/2010 01:08:17
    1. Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] GRAYELL & WILLIAMS, Pigot's Directory of Wilshire of 1830 ( was GRAYLE)
    2. Eliz Hanebury
    3. I am glad you found that, I suspect it is what I sent in some time ago, since my computer is refusing to load the whole thing, Eliz On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Michael Wells <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Thanks > > Mike > > > Hi Mike, > > I don't have a copy of Pigot's Directory of Wiltshire of 1830, myself, but > looking in the rootsweb archives I see that GRAYELL & WILLIAMS, in High > Street, Malmesbury, were listed under Bricklayers and Masons and Mary > GRAYELL, who was also in High Street, was listed under Milliners & > Dressmakers. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/02/2010 12:50:05
    1. Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Immigration Push to U.S.A.??
    2. Eliz Hanebury
    3. My 1840 Ancestors all fled to the USA, Cleveland Ohio to be exact. There have been great periods of migration, you get one family going or an organizer putting parties together to emigrate, I sure would prefer to go with a big party from "Home". Eliz On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 7:07 PM, TINA PEDDIE <desabla1@yahoo.com> wrote: > HI ELIZABETH,    WHERE did your ancestors go, who left Wiltshire in the 1840s?? Did they happen to go Australia or Newfoundland, where my distant cousins' ancestors went??    Seems weird that my branch left probably about 3 or 4 GENERATIONS EARLIER than theirs did!     Yes, could have been for 'free land' ... can you imagine hearing there is Free Land way far away, and just hopping on a boat and going there hoping to get some??? They sure were adventuresome!!!       Wish they'd left journals for us to better know them!!       Thanks for writing!           T I N A  KEENE PEDDIE/CALIF.************************************************** > > --- On Thu, 12/2/10, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Immigration Push to U.S.A.?? > To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 3:37 PM > > Hi Tina, I don't know why but I suspect the old reliable "free Land" > was the reason for  the leaving of England. It is hard to figure what > else they were up to, were they younger sons going to Virginia to make > their way. Or religious refugees? > > In the 1840's when most of my ancestors left Wiltshire it was farm > problems, high cost of corn and probably just plain too many people > for the jobs and resources. > > My other ancestors came during the Great Migration that ended with the > English Civil War. > > I have a bunch of Scots who were transported to Virginia in 1716, and > we all know what they were up to <G> > > > Eliz > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:12 PM, TINA PEDDIE <desabla1@yahoo.com> wrote: >> HELLO ALL:  (I posted a few mos. ago about my Wiltshire ancestors, "KEYNES/CAINES/KEENE" who were in Wiltshire apparently prior to 1770 (my branch, which has been "Keen/e" since the 1770s, when we first find them documented in NC, U.S.A.), and "Keynes" (left Wiltshire in 1850 and went to Australia, and "Caines" left in 1850 and went to Newfoundland). KEROS & KISH KEYNES, brothers, were the ancestors of the Keynes & Caines branches. Mine is the KEENE line, and we all descend (proven thru Ydna test results) from a common male ancestor prior to 1770s).   ANYWAY.... I am wondering if anyone knows if/when there might have been a big immigrantion "push" out of Wiltshire to the U.S. - that perhaps my branch would have left in, and ended up in the U.S. sometime around or prior to the 1770s time frame. My GEORGE KEENE is said to have been born in about 1771 in possibly "NC" but no documention on that...so he or his father or grandfather could have been the >>  one/s who came from Wiltshire.    And does anyone know where in the U.S. they may have first immigrated INTO after leaving Wiltshire?    Thanks for any info or suggestions....      TINA KEENE PEDDIE/California***************************************************** >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/02/2010 12:40:41
    1. [ENG-WILTSHIRE] GREEN Anthony & KING Elizabeth, marriage, Heddington, 1787
    2. Josephine Jeremiah
    3. My 5x great-grandparents, Anthony GREEN and Elizabeth KING, were married on 26th. August 1787 at Heddington, Wiltshire. Their daughter, Mary, was baptized on 13th. January 1788 at Heddington. Mother's name was recorded as Betty. Anthony GREEN, Elizabeth, his wife, and Mary, their daughter, aged about one and a half, were removed from Heddington, Wiltshire, to Bitton, Gloucestershire on 5th. May 1789. Anthony GREEN and his wife, Betty, had children baptized at St. Mary's Church Bitton, Gloucestershire. Their daughter, Elizabeth, was baptized on 24th. November 1789. There is another entry for the baptism of an Elizabeth on 24th. February 1793. It looks like aged 5 years is next to her name in the register. William was also baptized on 24th. February 1793. It appears that the first Mary died as there was a burial for a Mary GREEN on 29th. March 1790. (There are no indications in the Bitton register, at this time, of infant burials.) Another daughter named Mary was baptized on 8th. June 1794. Maria was baptized on 17th. September 1797, aged 5 months. Charles was baptized on 1st. June 1800. Moses was baptized on 28th. May 1803. John was baptized on 10th. June 1810 aged 5 years. Anthony GREEN was buried on 2nd. July 1809 at Bitton. No age was given in the burial record. Betty GREEN, aged 83, was buried on 28th. June 1848 at Bitton, but I don't know if this was my Betty GREEN. I haven't been able to find a baptism for Anthony GREEN in Bitton, GLS and I don't know anything about Elizabeth KING before her marriage. If no one has any links to this couple now, I'm hoping that someone may pick up this message in the Eng-Wiltshire archives, later. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

    12/02/2010 12:13:43
    1. Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Immigration Push to U.S.A.??
    2. Eliz Hanebury
    3. Hi Tina, I don't know why but I suspect the old reliable "free Land" was the reason for the leaving of England. It is hard to figure what else they were up to, were they younger sons going to Virginia to make their way. Or religious refugees? In the 1840's when most of my ancestors left Wiltshire it was farm problems, high cost of corn and probably just plain too many people for the jobs and resources. My other ancestors came during the Great Migration that ended with the English Civil War. I have a bunch of Scots who were transported to Virginia in 1716, and we all know what they were up to <G> Eliz On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:12 PM, TINA PEDDIE <desabla1@yahoo.com> wrote: > HELLO ALL:  (I posted a few mos. ago about my Wiltshire ancestors, "KEYNES/CAINES/KEENE" who were in Wiltshire apparently prior to 1770 (my branch, which has been "Keen/e" since the 1770s, when we first find them documented in NC, U.S.A.), and "Keynes" (left Wiltshire in 1850 and went to Australia, and "Caines" left in 1850 and went to Newfoundland). KEROS & KISH KEYNES, brothers, were the ancestors of the Keynes & Caines branches. Mine is the KEENE line, and we all descend (proven thru Ydna test results) from a common male ancestor prior to 1770s).   ANYWAY.... I am wondering if anyone knows if/when there might have been a big immigrantion "push" out of Wiltshire to the U.S. - that perhaps my branch would have left in, and ended up in the U.S. sometime around or prior to the 1770s time frame. My GEORGE KEENE is said to have been born in about 1771 in possibly "NC" but no documention on that...so he or his father or grandfather could have been the >  one/s who came from Wiltshire.    And does anyone know where in the U.S. they may have first immigrated INTO after leaving Wiltshire?    Thanks for any info or suggestions....      TINA KEENE PEDDIE/California***************************************************** > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/02/2010 11:37:06