When I first started FH research, I inherited some data from my parents, some of which was sourced and some not. One of the unsourced items was that of John CANNING(S) and Maria DUDMAN (or DEADMAN) who were in the unsourced information, from Ludgershall on the Wiltshire/Hampshire border. What is fact is that they emigrated to New South Wales in 1840 on the ship "Royal Consort" with their daughter Sarah and possibly son William (I don't have the passenger list). John was a shepherd employed by the brothers John and George EVERETT of Biddesden House near Ludgershall and worked on their property at Ollera (near Guyra NSW) until his early death in 1845. Maria was employed as a cook and later remarried. Sarah married Daniel John HUTTON at Ollera on 17 August 1846 So here are my questions: Where was John CANNING born, allegedly around 1805? Where was Maria DUDMAN born, allegedly around 1802? Where were John and Maria married, perhaps around 1827? Where was Sarah born, allegedly around 1828? Where was William born? I have found some possibilities: The IGI has a John CANNINGS baptised at Crow Lane Independent on 2 Oct 1805 (born 30 Mar 1805), son of James and Mary The IGI has Maria DUDMAN baptised 5 May 1802 at St Edmunds, Salisbury, father Thomas, mother Ann. I have lots of documentation from the archives of Ollera station mentioning the family and one entry suggests that Willliam was born in the early 1830s. If any lister has further information or suggestions, I'd love to hear them. -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia OPC Merther, St Breock & Egloshayle, Cornwall see http://www.cornwall-opc.org michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ====

On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 23:27:27 -0000, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: >On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:18:14 -0000, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > >> I expect you probably already know that PERRETT is a name registered >> with The Guild of One-name Studies, but if you don't here's the web site. >> http://www.one-name.org/ > >On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 23:00:45 -0000, Tom Perrett <tomp@st.net.au> wrote: > >> Of course the direct web address for the >> "P" Society is >> >> http://www.p-rr-tt.org.uk/ > >Tom, I've had a look at the web site of the P*RR*TT Society, which you >have given, but the contact details are not the same as that of the person >who is doing a one-name study of PERRETT with variations of PARRATT, >PARRET, PARROTT, PERROTT and PORRETT. Are the two connected? The "P" Society opern with this "The P*rr*tt Society is a registered one-name genealogical society....." and Hilary is a member of the Society's Executive Cheers, Tom <tomp@st.net.au> Tom Perrett

On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:18:14 -0000, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: >On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:43:13 -0000, Lenore Hailstone <lenhai@charter.net> >wrote: > >> That was a lot of names, but none of mine turned up. I am searching >> White, Parsons, Hailstone, Perrett. > >On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 10:44:06 -0000, DAVID THOMAS ><grampy1947@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> Hi I notice that among your names is PERRETT. My PERRETT line seems to >> centre around Wilton and Quidhampton near Salisbury later moving to >> Christchurch >> (Hampshire) Dorset. Any link with yours? > >Hi Lenore and David, > >I expect you probably already know that PERRETT is a name registered with >The Guild of One-name Studies, but if you don't here's the web site. > >http://www.one-name.org/ Of course the direct web address for the "P" Society is http://www.p-rr-tt.org.uk/ Cheers, Tom <tomp@st.net.au> Tom Perrett

Lacock has been mentioned several times on the list recently. When I have attended postcard fairs I've come across lots of early 20th-century postcards of this charming National Trust village. Two images of Lacock can be seen at the end of the eight-image slide show on the following web page: BBC Wiltshire In pictures: Treasures in the past http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/wiltshire/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8270000/8270721.stm Other images in slide show are of Stonehenge, Avebury and Castle Combe. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hi Mike, Do you have any connection to NEWHAM or GRAY in Nunton ? Seem to think that somebody down a distant line I was researching for a daughter in law did have Wheeler. Daphne. New Zealand. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Wheeler" <mike_wheeler@btinternet.com> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:23 PM To: <eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] WHEELER family, Nunton and Bodenham parish records > Hi all > > I am trying to locate parish records for Nunton and Bodenham. I thought > that > Wiltshire FHS sold a copy but that is now not shown on their list. > > > Regards > > Mike > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 23:46:37 -0000, Tom Perrett <tomp@st.net.au> wrote: > The "P" Society opern with this "The P*rr*tt Society is a registered > one-name genealogical > society....." and Hilary is a member of the Society's Executive Thank you for the clarification. I believe that I was in touch with a member of this society some years ago concerning my 2x great-grandfather's sister, Prudence PERRETT, who was a widow at the time of the 1871 census. As I didn't know her deceased husband's first name, at the time, I didn't get any further. Now, I know the details of her marriage. Bachelor, John PARRETT (sic), 20, and spinster, Prudence HANCOCK, 19, were married, by banns, on 3rd. October 1864 at St. Mary's Church, Bitton, Gloucestershire. Both were servants at nearby Upton. Fathers were George PARRETT (sic), labourer, and William HANCOCK, labourer. I've looked for John PERRETT with variations of this name and a father, George, in the 1851 census transcriptions on CD for Gloucestershire and Wiltshire, but have had no result. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Colin East Hendred was in Berkshire, I suggest you join that list.  Probably now in Oxfordshire!!   Mike ________________________________   I have researched my family back to 1720 for definite ( through OXFHS records) where my ancestor William Hutchins was born to William and Catherine but I cannot find a marriage for them I wonder whether any kind soul could direct me in the right direction for the church records for this area prior to this  which I understand were part of the Salisbury diocese of the Archbishop forgive me if I am not entirely precise I am happy enough to purchase CDs to investigate further or travel to Wiltshire to find out more

On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 00:18:22 -0000, David Roberts <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > Could you remind me of the meaning of (F) after a name? Hi David, I'm guessing that it could mean Freeholder. Perhaps another lister may know if this is correct. > Family history research is rather like a drug, isn't it? Absolutely! Look at us burning the midnight oil:-) Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 00:10:31 -0000, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> wrote: > That sounds great, right now I am trying to decide where to get my > copy, since I am finding them between 6 dollars and $75- <G> for the > first edition. > I do wonder if they "cheated" and took a real village what fun that > would be, a good tale and a real map to enjoy <G> Mine is the cheaper paperback edition of 1987, but it is still a pleasure to handle and to savour both text and illustrations. You mentioned books on Lacock in a previous message and I know that I have a copy of Lacock Tea Time Recipes, but I can't find that at the moment. I was able to put my hand on the National Trust booklet on Lacock with text by Janet Burnett Brown. This looks like it was originally published in 1981 and revised in 1987, 1999 and 2003. My copy cost £3 around six years ago. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Josephine , thank you so much. I have seen the will of Joseph Bodman, but there was no mention of Ann in it, that I recall. I shall look at it in more detail. Could you remind me of the meaning of (F) after a name? Two other names that crop up are Selman and Sainsbury. Ann Palmer was witness to the Lacock marriage of George Selman and Jane Butcher. Thomas Palmer's wife was friendly with Mrs Sainsbury (the grocers), since their shops were only yards apart in Drury Lane. There are other Sainsburys sprinkled about Langley Burrell as well as Frome. Family history research is rather like a drug, isn't it? Thanks again. Best wishes David On 3 December 2010 18:22, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com>wrote: > On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:55:06 -0000, David Roberts > <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > > > Yes, I think Ann(e) Bodman might have been the daughter of the Bodman > > butchers in Calne. > > Hi David, > > I had a feeling that your John PALMER and Ann(e) BODMAN might belong to > families who had some standing in the community because they both signed > the marriage register as did the witnesses at their marriage in 1813. Some > of my brides and grooms and their witnesses were still giving their marks > on marriage registers in the second half of the 19th century. > > Was Ann(e) the daughter of Benjamin BODMAN, butcher? There's an entry for > him in Calne in the Universal British Directory of 1791. Other entries are > for BODMAN, Jos. sen. (F.) Farmer and BODMAN Jos. jun. (F.) Farmer. There > are entries for BODMAN Jos. sen. (F.) and BODMAN Jos. jun. among the 13 > burgesses of Calne. The latter didn't have (F.) after his names in the > burgess section of the Calne directory. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:18:14 -0000, Josephine Jeremiah wrote: > I expect you probably already know that PERRETT is a name registered > with The Guild of One-name Studies, but if you don't here's the web site. > http://www.one-name.org/ On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 23:00:45 -0000, Tom Perrett <tomp@st.net.au> wrote: > Of course the direct web address for the > "P" Society is > > http://www.p-rr-tt.org.uk/ Tom, I've had a look at the web site of the P*RR*TT Society, which you have given, but the contact details are not the same as that of the person who is doing a one-name study of PERRETT with variations of PARRATT, PARRET, PARROTT, PERROTT and PORRETT. Are the two connected? Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 20:32:25 -0000, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> wrote: > Abebooks both US and UK have copies of this book as well as books > about Lacock and Steeple Ashton <G> No financial interest just found > it googling <G> Of course, seeing your message, Eliz, I had to go have a look. My copy of the Wiltshire Village (1987) was £7 at a PBFA book fair, which I thought was good value because the illustrations are meticulously detailed and the book is laid out well with print which is easy on the eye. There are six etchings and 156 pen drawings I'm looking through my copy now. There's a beautiful double-page spread map of the fictitious village, Kingston Borel, at the beginning of the book, which gives field names as well as showing the church, chapels, school, village buildings, farms, woodland and much more. It's absolutely delightful! The book is divided into four parts -- The Village, The Crafts of the Village, The Village Year, Village People. Looking at it now makes me want to read it again. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hello Colin, I have the HUTCHENS family in the 1700s onward, the spelling of HUTCHENS changed to HICHENCE by 1800 the name had changed to HITCHENS. George HUTCHENS married Grace SYMMES/SYMMS 21 February 1733 Bishops Canning. My 6 x great grandparents. May be worth your while to also look for variations in the spelling. Kind regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants. UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hutchins Colin" <colin.hutchins@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 5:47 PM Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] HUTCHINS of East Hendred 1720 >I have researched my family back to 1720 for definite ( through OXFHS > records) where my ancestor William Hutchins was born to William and > Catherine but I cannot find a marriage for them I wonder whether any > kind > soul could direct me in the right direction for the church records > for this > area prior to this which I understand were part of the Salisbury > diocese of > the Archbishop forgive me if I am not entirely precise I am happy > enough to > purchase CDs to investigate further or travel to Wiltshire to find > out more

Hello, I wonder if any body has an email address for Mark Hanbury Brown, a Wiltshire researcher who was a member a few years ago. Thanks, Sally

I searched "A Wiltshire Village" at abebooks and got the ones for Lacock and Steeple Ashton Eliz On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 00:10:31 -0000, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> That sounds great, right now I am trying to decide where to get my >> copy, since I am finding them between 6 dollars and $75- <G> for the >> first edition. > >> I do wonder if they "cheated" and took a real village what fun that >> would be, a good tale and a real map to enjoy <G> > > Mine is the cheaper paperback edition of 1987, but it is still a pleasure > to handle and to savour both text and illustrations. > > You mentioned books on Lacock in a previous message and I know that I have > a copy of Lacock Tea Time Recipes, but I can't find that at the moment. > > I was able to put my hand on the National Trust booklet on Lacock with > text by Janet Burnett Brown. This looks like it was originally published > in 1981 and revised in 1987, 1999 and 2003. My copy cost £3 around six > years ago. > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

That sounds great, right now I am trying to decide where to get my copy, since I am finding them between 6 dollars and $75- <G> for the first edition. I do wonder if they "cheated" and took a real village what fun that would be, a good tale and a real map to enjoy <G> Eliz On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:07 PM, <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 20:32:25 -0000, Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Abebooks both US and UK have copies of this book as well as books >> about Lacock and Steeple Ashton <G> No financial interest just found >> it googling <G> > > Of course, seeing your message, Eliz, I had to go have a look. > > My copy of the Wiltshire Village (1987) was £7 at a PBFA book fair, which > I thought was good value because the illustrations are meticulously > detailed and the book is laid out well with print which is easy on the > eye. There are six etchings and 156 pen drawings > > I'm looking through my copy now. There's a beautiful double-page spread > map of the fictitious village, Kingston Borel, at the beginning of the > book, which gives field names as well as showing the church, chapels, > school, village buildings, farms, woodland and much more. It's absolutely > delightful! > > The book is divided into four parts -- The Village, The Crafts of the > Village, The Village Year, Village People. Looking at it now makes me want > to read it again. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 09:20:53 -0000, David Roberts <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > I am pursuing John Palmer who married Ann(e) Bodman at Langley Burrell in > 1813. I have their children, but no knowledge about John's age, burial, > or his antecedents. Hi David, This is a very long shot, but since Ann(e) BODMAN came from Calne, John PALMER might have had some relatives there, too. There's an entry in Calne for PALMER Richard, Fuller in the Universal British Directory of 1791. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:55:06 -0000, David Roberts <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > Yes, I think Ann(e) Bodman might have been the daughter of the Bodman > butchers in Calne. Hi David, I had a feeling that your John PALMER and Ann(e) BODMAN might belong to families who had some standing in the community because they both signed the marriage register as did the witnesses at their marriage in 1813. Some of my brides and grooms and their witnesses were still giving their marks on marriage registers in the second half of the 19th century. Was Ann(e) the daughter of Benjamin BODMAN, butcher? There's an entry for him in Calne in the Universal British Directory of 1791. Other entries are for BODMAN, Jos. sen. (F.) Farmer and BODMAN Jos. jun. (F.) Farmer. There are entries for BODMAN Jos. sen. (F.) and BODMAN Jos. jun. among the 13 burgesses of Calne. The latter didn't have (F.) after his names in the burgess section of the Calne directory. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I have researched my family back to 1720 for definite ( through OXFHS records) where my ancestor William Hutchins was born to William and Catherine but I cannot find a marriage for them I wonder whether any kind soul could direct me in the right direction for the church records for this area prior to this which I understand were part of the Salisbury diocese of the Archbishop forgive me if I am not entirely precise I am happy enough to purchase CDs to investigate further or travel to Wiltshire to find out more

Thanks Josephine Yes, I think Ann(e) Bodman might have been the daughter of the Bodman butchers in Calne. John's son, Thomas arrived in London in 1845, and thereafter had several butcher's shops in and around Drury Lane. Family legend has it that his father died, and his mother married again, and he left on account of his step father. I feel sure that since John was a yeoman (Lacock Tithe Map of 1839), Thomas learned the butchery business with his mother's family in Calne and then hopped off to London (well, allegedly he walked, but who knows?) I think that hangs together OK. I have never found the remarriage of Ann Palmer (widow) although there are several possibilities. I think she may have gone to Frome, because all Thomas's sons were sent there for schooling. What better than the occasional cuddle with granny? I see that the Wiltshire Village book is on Amazon together with one or two others, similar. Many thanks for your help. David On 3 December 2010 14:31, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com>wrote: > On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 09:20:53 -0000, David Roberts > <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > > > I am pursuing John Palmer who married Ann(e) Bodman at Langley Burrell in > > 1813. I have their children, but no knowledge about John's age, burial, > > or his antecedents. > > > If you see any relevant Palmers or Bodmans knocking around, please let > > me know! > > Hi David, > > The witnesses to the 1813 marriage of John PALMER and Anne BODMAN were > Mary BODMAN and Elizabeth PALMER. They could have been sisters or mothers > of the bride and groom. The marriage was by licence so if you could obtain > the licence details that might give a further lead. Anne BODMAN was from > Calne so you might find more BODMANs there. > > I also have some BODMANs in my family tree, butI've gone back with them to > Dyrham, Gloucestershire in the early 19th century. However, Dyrham is not > far from the county border with Wiltshire. > > Josephine > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >