Yes, that must have been very satisfying - not to say fabulous! How did we ever mange before the widespread use of computers? (Well, we took long journeys to CROs, spent the day ploughing through records, and returned home absolutely knackered. No doubt you did similar.) Many of us have believed that stories handed down by word-of-mouth through the generations get distorted. My experience - and yours - is that it is not necessarily so. I should have told my mum I believed every word she said. Life would have been a little more tranquil! Thank you for your kind words about my article. BW David On 6 December 2010 19:23, <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:47:31 -0000, David Roberts > <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > > > I hope my rellies do turn out to be from Calne. One relies so much on > > 'family legends', although I have to admit those that I have tested so > > far, have turned out to be true - including the man that joined the > > Mounties, and an all-in wrestler! I sold the article to The Genealogist. > > > Makes life more interesting... > > Hi David, > > I certainly found your article 'Family Legends: Shadow or Substance?' very > interesting and very readable, especially as I had already 'met' your > ancestor, Thomas PALMER, through our recent correspondence on the > Eng-Wiltshire List. > > It's fascinating to mull over family history stories, which we were told > when young. My mother once told me that my great-grandmother, on my > father's side, had pursued some inheritance involving property miles from > where the family lived, without success. It seemed very unlikely to me as > my father's family wasn't the sort of family who would own substantial > property. > > However, often what my mother used to tell me about my family history has > proved to have been true. Recently, I was looking for the burial of my 5x > great-grandfather. When I couldn't find it in the place, where it ought to > have been, I put into Google the town where the property was said to have > been plus my 5x great-grandfather's name. Up came information about the > property and detailed information about other ancestors, all from > searching on just three words, first name, surname and place. > > Josephine > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

An illustrated page about St. John the Baptist’s Church, Inglesham has been added to my Wiltshire Wanderings, today, with one photograph of the exterior and four photographs of the interior taken in 2006. http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com/wilts/inglesham.htm St. John the Baptist’s Church at Inglesham, near Lechlade, is an ancient building, its nave, arcades and chancel dating from the 13th century. Structurally, the church appears to be largely unchanged from how it was in the early 16th century, apart from repairs to its exterior over the past two centuries. Stepping inside is like stepping back in time. The walls are covered with paintings and texts dating from the 13th century to the 19th century. The box pews possibly date from the time of Cromwell. A Saxon carving of the Mother and Child can be found on the south wall, inside the church. It was originally used as a sundial, somewhere on the outside of the south wall. It was moved inside in 1910. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:47:31 -0000, David Roberts <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > I hope my rellies do turn out to be from Calne. One relies so much on > 'family legends', although I have to admit those that I have tested so > far, have turned out to be true - including the man that joined the > Mounties, and an all-in wrestler! I sold the article to The Genealogist. > Makes life more interesting... Hi David, I certainly found your article 'Family Legends: Shadow or Substance?' very interesting and very readable, especially as I had already 'met' your ancestor, Thomas PALMER, through our recent correspondence on the Eng-Wiltshire List. It's fascinating to mull over family history stories, which we were told when young. My mother once told me that my great-grandmother, on my father's side, had pursued some inheritance involving property miles from where the family lived, without success. It seemed very unlikely to me as my father's family wasn't the sort of family who would own substantial property. However, often what my mother used to tell me about my family history has proved to have been true. Recently, I was looking for the burial of my 5x great-grandfather. When I couldn't find it in the place, where it ought to have been, I put into Google the town where the property was said to have been plus my 5x great-grandfather's name. Up came information about the property and detailed information about other ancestors, all from searching on just three words, first name, surname and place. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Thanks Josephine, that's very helpful. I hope my rellies do turn out to be from Calne. One relies so much on 'family legends', although I have to admit those that I have tested so far, have turned out to be true - including the man that joined the Mounties, and an all-in wrestler! I sold the article to The Genealogist. Makes life more interesting... David On 6 December 2010 14:16, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com>wrote: > On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:31:15 -0000, David Roberts > <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > > > Do you know of any publications that deal solely with Calne? > > Hi David, > > Here are some books about Calne, which may be of interest: > > A history of the borough and town of Calne: and some account of the > villages etc in its vicinity (1903) by A. E. W. Marsh > > Calne's heritage by Peter Treloar (2010) > > Calne in pictures (1982) by Peter Q. Treloar > > Around Calne in old photographs (1990) by Peter Q. Treloar > > Calne in focus (1984) by Peter Q. Treloar > > Greetings from Calne : a fourth book of historic pictures of Calne in > Wiltshire (1988) by Peter Q. Treloar > > Village and town life in Calne and around: 1915-1987 (1986) by H. F. Reeves > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:31:15 -0000, David Roberts <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > Do you know of any publications that deal solely with Calne? Hi David, Here are some books about Calne, which may be of interest: A history of the borough and town of Calne: and some account of the villages etc in its vicinity (1903) by A. E. W. Marsh Calne's heritage by Peter Treloar (2010) Calne in pictures (1982) by Peter Q. Treloar Around Calne in old photographs (1990) by Peter Q. Treloar Calne in focus (1984) by Peter Q. Treloar Greetings from Calne : a fourth book of historic pictures of Calne in Wiltshire (1988) by Peter Q. Treloar Village and town life in Calne and around: 1915-1987 (1986) by H. F. Reeves Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I am trying to trace members of CONEY family in Salisbury. In particular Robert CONEY as explained below: It would appear the Robert CONEY I'm seeking was born about 1781 out of the parish, however, I cannot find him anywhere, in particular Cranborne, Dorset. CONEY Salisbury Wiltshire Seeking an uncle to Christopher CONEY of Hampshire. Namely Robert CONEY Salisbury, Wiltshire. England. As noted from the will of Christopher CONEY. Christopher born in Cranborne Dorset 26 July 1792, moved to Ringwood, Hampshire. Married Mary Ann HODGES 1 Apr. 1819. His son Robert born 2 Jan 1831 (My great grandfather) migrated to Australia 1855. *Seeking details and family of (uncle) Robert CONEY Salisbury.* a) I have a brother to Christopher, Robert born Cranborne, 23 Sept 1799. b) I also have a family of another Robert CONEY of Cranborne, who mainly appear in Salisbury; Judith CONEY Christened Cranborne Dorset 1 Sept 1771, married Frederick BAINES St Martin Salisbury 29 July 1799. Robert CONEY Christened Cranborne Dorset 18 July 1774…………….. Diana CONEY Christened Cranborne Dorset 28 Sept 1777, married Thomas TIBBS St Thomas Salisbury, 7 Mar 1803. *Andrew CONEY* Christened Cranborne Dorset 17 Sept 1780, married, Elizabeth WICKER, ST Martins Salisbury, … Oct 1890. Other information I have is: 1) Some Selected Reports from the Salisbury and Winchester Journal Salisbury, Monday, March 30, 1812. On Monday the 9th inst.died, after a short illness, Mrs.Coney, wife of Mr.Robert Coney, bricklayer of this city. I have recently found on Family Search Org. Hester CONEY Buried 11 Mar 1812. Married to Robert Coney. Age 37. Born 1775. Batch No. B00190-7 Source File No. 1279311. 2) Wiltshire and Swindon Archive Catalogue - Wills Information Probate records of the court of the Dean of Salisbury ________________________________________ Ref No. P5/1848/11 Alt Ref No P5/1848/11 Title Will, wrapper Date 1848 Person Coney, Robert Occupation Brickmaker Place Key /The Close/Salisbury/Wiltshire Community Salisbury This will leaves everything to his wife; Louisa Jane. 3) Marriages of Robert CONEY’s Salisbury · 18 Sept 1812 Married St Martin Robert CONEY (wid) to Mary TILLER of Damerham · 21 Sept 1824 Married St Martin Robert CONEY (wid) to Louisa Jane DALLEY I cannot relate these to the Cranborne CONEY’s 4) Census 1841. 1841 Census 8 Records found Piece: HO107/1186/18 Place: Swanborough -Wiltshire Enumeration District: 7 Civil Parish: Milford Ecclesiastical Parish: - Folio: 5 Page: 4 Address: Southampton Road ________________________________________ Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks CONEY Robert M 60 Builder Outside Census County (1841) CONEY Esther F 38 Wiltshire CONEY Amelia F 14 Wiltshire CONEY Theodosia F 11 Wiltshire CONEY Navarian M 9 Wiltshire CONEY Louisa Jane F 2 Wiltshire CONEY Robert William M 9m Wiltshire MOXHAM Louisa F 12 F S Wiltshire Piece: HO107/1190/4 Place: Salisbury -Wiltshire Enumeration District: 15 Civil Parish: Salisbury St Martin Ecclesiastical Parish: - Folio: 10 Page: 13 Address: Exeter ________________________________________ Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks CONEY Andrew M 60 Bricklayer Outside Census County (1841) CONEY Elizabeth F 60 Outside Census County (1841) CONEY Andrew (Jnr) M 25 Bricklayer J Wiltshire CONEY Mary F 25 Wiltshire CONEY Robert M 25 Bricklayer J Wiltshire I believe the ESTHER listed above is incorrect. I believe this should be the second Mrs CONEY namely Louisa Jane DALLEY? Andrew is the *Andrew* from Cranborne listed in 2nd para above, I believe. *I would appreciate any assistance in finding a Robert CONEY in Salisbury born in Cranborne, Dorset* regards Robert Coney Australia. Email: coneyrobert@gmail.com

Josephine, What lovely postcards. I would love to see some of Ramsbury from that era where my family originated. I wonder if anyone has any of Ramsbury to share. Leonie. -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: Sunday, 5 December 2010 3:41 AM To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Wiltshire Wanderings -- Kemble and Ashton Keynes I've started a page on my web site called Wiltshire Wanderings. At the moment there are pictures on it, dating from Edwardian times, of Kemble and Ashton Keynes. Kemble was formerly in Wiltshire, but became part of Gloucestershire in 1897. To see these old pictures, click on Wiltshire Wanderings on the main page of the site: www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com The first Kemble picture shows a water hydrant located in a 'beehive' structure made of Cotswold stone. The second Kemble picture shows the Post Office, Limes Road, which was once situated on a plot of land in the middle of the road. The third picture shows the blacksmith's forge and cottage in Church Road. There are two Ashton Keynes pictures. The first shows one of the four ancient crosses, which had their tops broken off during the Civil War, while the second shows cottages at Kent End. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For anyone who is looking for photos of old Wiltshire there are commercial sites which you can browse without purchasing anything. At Francis Frith for example under Ramsbury you will find 4 pages of pictures. (I have no commercial interest in the site) Another way is to use a search engine that offers ilustrations of the subject you are looking for. For example if you search for Ramsbury on Alltheweb you will find hundreds of illustrations (not all of which are relevant). Typing in Corsham gave me 23,200 results. Harry -----Original Message----- From: Josephine Jeremiah Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:15 AM To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Wiltshire Wanderings -- Kemble and Ashton Keynes On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 00:08:07 -0000, B & L Copeland <lebrac3@bigpond.com> wrote: > Josephine, > What lovely postcards. I would love to see some of Ramsbury from that era > where my family originated. Thank you for your kind comment, Leonie. I don't have any old postcards of Ramsbury, but I do have old postcards and old prints of various places in Wiltshire, which I am hoping to add to my Wiltshire Wanderings page on my web site. I will let the list know of any new additions. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Josephine Do you know of any publications that deal solely with Calne? BW David (it's minus 7 here!) On 6 December 2010 09:28, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com>wrote: > Looking on my bookshelves, I see a that I have variety of books concerning > Bradford-on-Avon, the titles of which may be of interest to list members > with research interests in this Wiltshire town: > > Images of England: Around Bradford-on-Avon (2003) by Paul De'Ath, published > by Tempus Publishing Limited. > > Bradford on Avon Past and Present (1993) by Harold Fassnidge, published by > Ex Libris Press. > > Bradford-on-Avon; A History and Description (1907) by W.H. Jones and J.E. > Jackson, annotated by John Beddoe and published by Wm. Dotesio, The Library > Press, Bradford-on-Avon. > > Wool and Water: Bradford-on-Avon and the River Frome (1975) by Kenneth G. > Ponting, published by Moonraker Press. > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Looking on my bookshelves, I see a that I have variety of books concerning Bradford-on-Avon, the titles of which may be of interest to list members with research interests in this Wiltshire town: Images of England: Around Bradford-on-Avon (2003) by Paul De'Ath, published by Tempus Publishing Limited. Bradford on Avon Past and Present (1993) by Harold Fassnidge, published by Ex Libris Press. Bradford-on-Avon; A History and Description (1907) by W.H. Jones and J.E. Jackson, annotated by John Beddoe and published by Wm. Dotesio, The Library Press, Bradford-on-Avon. Wool and Water: Bradford-on-Avon and the River Frome (1975) by Kenneth G. Ponting, published by Moonraker Press. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 00:08:07 -0000, B & L Copeland <lebrac3@bigpond.com> wrote: > Josephine, > What lovely postcards. I would love to see some of Ramsbury from that era > where my family originated. Thank you for your kind comment, Leonie. I don't have any old postcards of Ramsbury, but I do have old postcards and old prints of various places in Wiltshire, which I am hoping to add to my Wiltshire Wanderings page on my web site. I will let the list know of any new additions. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Dec 5, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Ernest wrote: > Try searching Google <Images> Leonie. Flickr is also a good option, with lots of new stuff http://www.flickr.com/search/?ss=2&w=all&q=wiltshire&m=text Archived public domain photos: http://www.flickr.com/search/?ss=2&w=commons&q=%22great+western%22+railway&m=text -- Paul Beard contact info: www.paulbeard.org/paulbeard.vcf Are you trying to win an argument or solve a problem?

On 6/12/10 00:08, "B & L Copeland" <lebrac3@bigpond.com> wrote: > What lovely postcards. I would love to see some of Ramsbury from that era > where my family originated. I wonder if anyone has any of Ramsbury to share. Try searching Google <Images> Leonie. HTH -- ErnB Bristol

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Thanks Josephine. I have visited Lacock Abbey (being v interested in photography), and to think my ancestor who was there in 1839 perhaps knew Fox-Talbot although the vast difference in social classes forbade any friendship. But I can dream... David On 4 December 2010 09:21, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com>wrote: > Lacock has been mentioned several times on the list recently. When I have > attended postcard fairs I've come across lots of early 20th-century > postcards of this charming National Trust village. > > Two images of Lacock can be seen at the end of the eight-image slide show > on the following web page: > > BBC Wiltshire In pictures: Treasures in the past > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/wiltshire/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8270000/8270721.stm > > Other images in slide show are of Stonehenge, Avebury and Castle Combe. > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Josephine No, I'm sure that's right. David On 4 December 2010 00:45, <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 00:18:22 -0000, David Roberts > <david@roberts-productions.com> wrote: > > > Could you remind me of the meaning of (F) after a name? > > Hi David, > > I'm guessing that it could mean Freeholder. Perhaps another lister may > know if this is correct. > > > Family history research is rather like a drug, isn't it? > > Absolutely! Look at us burning the midnight oil:-) > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Sunday 05 December 2010 06:05:58 carogene wrote: > Hi Michael, > You need to be cautious of any record of stated age, age, as it was > quite common to state what was required at the time. > Your best bet is to look at their death certificates. I suspect that > the Australian version, like the NZ one will state the place of birth > of the deceased person, as well as the names of their parents, (if > known by the informant.) Hmmm, these two statements would seem to be somewhat contradictory. I can vouch for the inaccuracy of some information on old death certificates, particularly age. > Likewise for Sarah and William, look at their marriage certificates, > then subsequent births of their children, as these may also state > their place of birth. Sarah does not have a marriage certificate, only an old church record as NSW certificates do not go that far back. I haven't yet requested William's, who was married in 1861. > This is the only true way to work back in time, rather than looking > for a likely candidate in the IGI or similar. > Good luck! > I was hoping someone could point me to the existence of a marriage record for John and Maria, birth records for Sarah and Willliam or that someone was also researching either CANNING(S) or DUDMAN/DEADMAN. -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia OPC Merther, St Breock & Egloshayle, Cornwall see http://www.cornwall-opc.org michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ====

Hi Michael, You need to be cautious of any record of stated age, age, as it was quite common to state what was required at the time. Your best bet is to look at their death certificates. I suspect that the Australian version, like the NZ one will state the place of birth of the deceased person, as well as the names of their parents, (if known by the informant.) Likewise for Sarah and William, look at their marriage certificates, then subsequent births of their children, as these may also state their place of birth. This is the only true way to work back in time, rather than looking for a likely candidate in the IGI or similar. Good luck! Carolyn in NZ

I've started a page on my web site called Wiltshire Wanderings. At the moment there are pictures on it, dating from Edwardian times, of Kemble and Ashton Keynes. Kemble was formerly in Wiltshire, but became part of Gloucestershire in 1897. To see these old pictures, click on Wiltshire Wanderings on the main page of the site: www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com The first Kemble picture shows a water hydrant located in a 'beehive' structure made of Cotswold stone. The second Kemble picture shows the Post Office, Limes Road, which was once situated on a plot of land in the middle of the road. The third picture shows the blacksmith's forge and cottage in Church Road. There are two Ashton Keynes pictures. The first shows one of the four ancient crosses, which had their tops broken off during the Civil War, while the second shows cottages at Kent End. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Great to see, much more real than our idealized versions. Eliz On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Josephine Jeremiah <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: > I've started a page on my web site called Wiltshire Wanderings. > > At the moment there are pictures on it, dating from Edwardian times, of > Kemble and Ashton Keynes. Kemble was formerly in Wiltshire, but became > part of Gloucestershire in 1897. > > To see these old pictures, click on Wiltshire Wanderings on the main page > of the site: > > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > The first Kemble picture shows a water hydrant located in a 'beehive' > structure made of Cotswold stone. The second Kemble picture shows the Post > Office, Limes Road, which was once situated on a plot of land in the > middle of the road. The third picture shows the blacksmith's forge and > cottage in Church Road. > > There are two Ashton Keynes pictures. The first shows one of the four > ancient crosses, which had their tops broken off during the Civil War, > while the second shows cottages at Kent End. > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >