Hello List! Like almost every other researcher, I find that every advance raises more questions. That's why we do this stuff! For years I have searched for some of the PALMER family from Chippenham (Langley Burrell & Lacock.) Family legend had it that Thomas (1817) left home due to his mother's re-marriage after his father (John) died. I knew Harriet (1821) came to London as a dressmaker and later as a coffee shop owner. I now find that Thomas, Thirza (1816) and Harriet, are in Red Lion Street, Clerkenwell on the 1841 census, saying that they were not born in the county! One reason why I couldn't find them. Most important of all, Ann PALMER (nee BODMAN) is there aged 55. So on the face of it she didn't re-marry. So what about the wicked step-daddy? I have yet to find her death. Thirza died from scrofula in Percival Street in 1843. The DC has Thomas KNIGHT as being present at the death. I had never heard of him. He is described as an uncle on one of the census returns. This led me to look for KNIGHT in Langley Burrell. There are very many, to say the least! Which one was the relevant one, I am unsure, since ages on the census returns are inaccurate. There is a Thomas KNIGHT who married Ann BRYANT in 1839. Could they have decided to move to London with the PALMERs. And there are BRYANTs on the relevant 1841 census pages. My query: Is anyone researching KNIGHT of Langley Burrell? I need to know what the link is between PALMER and KNIGHT. Finding the death of Ann Palmer will be another major step, since it will show who was present at the death. There are many Ann PALMERs to choose from. Any information most gladly welcomed. David Roberts

I did a quick search for Wm K?dd?l* on Ancestry and no one matched in 1841 or 51, I am pasting the closest ones (age wise there weren't any Thomases) I always search England without county so I get any ships lists, then I go back and try with county and got no hits in the census. From what I see Somerset is much more likely. Eliz Name: William Keddell Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Gender: Male Where born: Somerset, England Civil parish: Wembdon Hundred: North Petherton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration district: Bridgwater Sub-registration district: Bridgwater Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 953 Book: 11 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age William Keddell 30 Mary Keddell 30 Emma Keddell 7 William Keddell 6 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 953; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Wembdon; County: Somerset; Enumeration District: 11 12; Folio: ; Page: 30; Line: 12; GSU roll: 474602. Name: William Kiddall Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Gender: Male Where born: Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Louth Hundred: Louth Eske Hundred (Wold Division) County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration district: Louth Sub-registration district: Louth Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 639 Book: 17 Folio: 13 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age James Kiddall 45 Nancy Kiddall 45 George Kiddall 15 William Kiddall 8 Jesse Kemp 7 Mary Parker 45 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 639; Book: 17; Civil Parish: Louth; County: Lincolnshire; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 13; Page: 18; Line: 25; GSU roll: 438766. These are from 1851 William Keddall James Mary abt 1834 Louth, Lincolnshire, England Son Louth, Lincolnshire William Kiddell William, Maria abt 1826 Norwich, Norfolk, England Son Norwich St John de Sepulchre, Norfolk William Kiddell William, Mary Ann abt 1835 B Water, Somerset, England Son Clevedon, Somerset William Riddell [William Kiddell] James, Sarah abt 1831 Southwk St Johns Son Bermondsey, Surrey On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Carol <carol.mayall@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Hi All, > I am new to this list and looking for help in tracing a William > Kiddell/Keddell or many ways of spelling it, the information I have taken > from his Death Cert in 1881 here in Victoria Australia, states that he was > born in Salsbury in 1831 his parents were Thomas Keddell and Mary Bradley. > I am hoping someone will be bale to help me track this family down. > Many Thanks > Carol > Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All, I am new to this list and looking for help in tracing a William Kiddell/Keddell or many ways of spelling it, the information I have taken from his Death Cert in 1881 here in Victoria Australia, states that he was born in Salsbury in 1831 his parents were Thomas Keddell and Mary Bradley. I am hoping someone will be bale to help me track this family down. Many Thanks Carol Australia

I have been seeking the birth/bap of my gg/gm. On various cencus returns she claims to have been born in Berwick St John, father JAMES MARTIN. ANN MARTIN married JOHN WILTSHIRE LONG in Shrewton in 1848 her place of abode was given as Winterbourn Dauntsey, a servant. In the 1851 Census the couple are in Shrewton and have a visitor LYDIA MARTIN of Berwick St John. There was a JAMES MARTIN living in Berwick with a large family but no ANN. Please, can anyone help me on this problem, I have been searching for such a long time. Vera Lennard g3vps@tinyworld.co.uk

Dear Julie, Thank you so much for that assistance, which I would not have found otherwise. You are so kind, as indeed these are the people. Heather Brain. -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:01 PM To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-WILTSHIRE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 27 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Read, Stratton St. Margaret (Julie Smith) 2. Re: Read, Stratton St. Margaret (Julie Smith) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:39:19 +0100 From: "Julie Smith" <julie@juliesmith.plus.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Read, Stratton St. Margaret To: <eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00d101cbffa3$68f32b30$3ad98190$@juliesmith.plus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Heather, I have access to a Wroughton transcript. In the Wroughton parish records there are possible baptisms for the children. 05.08.1779 READ ANN D RICHARD & MARY WROUGHTON 06.04.1787 READ ELIZABETH D RICHARD & MARY WROUGHTON 15.09.1782 READ RICHARD S RICHARD & MARY WROUGHTON 08 Jul 1781 Read Mary D RICHD & Mary Wroughton A Richard READ aged 82 was buried June 12 1815 and a possible entry for Mary Read aged 85 25 Sept 1929. There is a marriage 27 Jan 1779 for a Richard READ, widower of Stratton St Margaret and Mary READ, widow of Wroughton. The bondsman was Maurice King. There is another marriage 30 Jan 1777 for a Stephen READ and Mary KING both of Wroughton, bondman is Richard READ, Stratton St Margaret, Wilts. A Stephen READ was buried in Wroughton July 19 1778. A possible first marriage for Richard was at Stratton St Mary in 10 Jan 1775 to a Martha Gray. There is a burial for Martha READ at Stratton St Mary, wife of Richard READ but no date. Regards Julie -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nhbrain@tpg.com.au Sent: 20 April 2011 02:40 To: ENG-WILTSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Read, Stratton St. Margaret Dear Wiltshire people, I am hoping that someone can assist me with my queries, which I believe relate to Swindon or Stratton St. Margaret. My husband?s ancestors all appear to be named Richard Read. I have one generation sorted, but the previous one is giving me some problems. That Richard died in Wroughton, leaving an 1815 will, naming wife Mary and brothers in law Morris and Richard King executors, but I cannot find birth or marriage details for this Richard or for children whose names appear to be Richard, Mary, Elizabeth and Ann. There could have been more, but these names are taken from his will. Thank you for any assistance that can be given. Heather Brain Mel. Vic. A ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:20:56 +0100 From: "Julie Smith" <julie@juliesmith.plus.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Read, Stratton St. Margaret To: <eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <00da01cbffa9$38de4dc0$aa9ae940$@juliesmith.plus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Further to my e-mail below. Mary's burial should have read Mary Read aged 85 25 Sept 1829 not 1929! Julie -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Julie Smith Sent: 20 April 2011 22:39 To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Read, Stratton St. Margaret Hi Heather, I have access to a Wroughton transcript. In the Wroughton parish records there are possible baptisms for the children. 05.08.1779 READ ANN D RICHARD & MARY WROUGHTON 06.04.1787 READ ELIZABETH D RICHARD & MARY WROUGHTON 15.09.1782 READ RICHARD S RICHARD & MARY WROUGHTON 08 Jul 1781 Read Mary D RICHD & Mary Wroughton A Richard READ aged 82 was buried June 12 1815 and a possible entry for Mary Read aged 85 25 Sept 1929. There is a marriage 27 Jan 1779 for a Richard READ, widower of Stratton St Margaret and Mary READ, widow of Wroughton. The bondsman was Maurice King. There is another marriage 30 Jan 1777 for a Stephen READ and Mary KING both of Wroughton, bondman is Richard READ, Stratton St Margaret, Wilts. A Stephen READ was buried in Wroughton July 19 1778. A possible first marriage for Richard was at Stratton St Mary in 10 Jan 1775 to a Martha Gray. There is a burial for Martha READ at Stratton St Mary, wife of Richard READ but no date. Regards Julie -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nhbrain@tpg.com.au Sent: 20 April 2011 02:40 To: ENG-WILTSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Read, Stratton St. Margaret Dear Wiltshire people, I am hoping that someone can assist me with my queries, which I believe relate to Swindon or Stratton St. Margaret. My husband?s ancestors all appear to be named Richard Read. I have one generation sorted, but the previous one is giving me some problems. That Richard died in Wroughton, leaving an 1815 will, naming wife Mary and brothers in law Morris and Richard King executors, but I cannot find birth or marriage details for this Richard or for children whose names appear to be Richard, Mary, Elizabeth and Ann. There could have been more, but these names are taken from his will. Thank you for any assistance that can be given. Heather Brain Mel. Vic. 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Hi Vera, >From the 1841 Lydia Martin is living in Berwick St John with James and Mary Ann,also listed is Rhoda Martin aged 80 in the same household. On the IGI there is a christening of James,son of Richard and Rhoda Martin in 1795. On the 1851 census Ann is listed as aged 29,is it possible that she was christened Elizabeth but used the name Ann. Hope this helps in some way Gilly ----- Original Message ----- From: <g3vps@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 5:41 AM Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] ANN MARTIN > > I have been seeking the birth/bap of my gg/gm. On various cencus returns > she claims to have been born in Berwick St John, father JAMES MARTIN. > > ANN MARTIN married JOHN WILTSHIRE LONG in Shrewton in 1848 her place of > abode was > given as Winterbourn Dauntsey, a servant. > > In the 1851 Census the couple are in Shrewton and have a visitor LYDIA > MARTIN > of Berwick St John. > > There was a JAMES MARTIN living in Berwick with a large family but no ANN. > > Please, can anyone help me on this problem, I have been searching for > such a long time. > > Vera Lennard > g3vps@tinyworld.co.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Further to my e-mail below. Mary's burial should have read Mary Read aged 85 25 Sept 1829 not 1929! Julie -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Julie Smith Sent: 20 April 2011 22:39 To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Read, Stratton St. Margaret Hi Heather, I have access to a Wroughton transcript. In the Wroughton parish records there are possible baptisms for the children. 05.08.1779 READ ANN D RICHARD & MARY WROUGHTON 06.04.1787 READ ELIZABETH D RICHARD & MARY WROUGHTON 15.09.1782 READ RICHARD S RICHARD & MARY WROUGHTON 08 Jul 1781 Read Mary D RICHD & Mary Wroughton A Richard READ aged 82 was buried June 12 1815 and a possible entry for Mary Read aged 85 25 Sept 1929. There is a marriage 27 Jan 1779 for a Richard READ, widower of Stratton St Margaret and Mary READ, widow of Wroughton. The bondsman was Maurice King. There is another marriage 30 Jan 1777 for a Stephen READ and Mary KING both of Wroughton, bondman is Richard READ, Stratton St Margaret, Wilts. A Stephen READ was buried in Wroughton July 19 1778. A possible first marriage for Richard was at Stratton St Mary in 10 Jan 1775 to a Martha Gray. There is a burial for Martha READ at Stratton St Mary, wife of Richard READ but no date. Regards Julie -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nhbrain@tpg.com.au Sent: 20 April 2011 02:40 To: ENG-WILTSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Read, Stratton St. Margaret Dear Wiltshire people, I am hoping that someone can assist me with my queries, which I believe relate to Swindon or Stratton St. Margaret. My husband?s ancestors all appear to be named Richard Read. I have one generation sorted, but the previous one is giving me some problems. That Richard died in Wroughton, leaving an 1815 will, naming wife Mary and brothers in law Morris and Richard King executors, but I cannot find birth or marriage details for this Richard or for children whose names appear to be Richard, Mary, Elizabeth and Ann. There could have been more, but these names are taken from his will. Thank you for any assistance that can be given. Heather Brain Mel. Vic. A ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Heather, I have access to a Wroughton transcript. In the Wroughton parish records there are possible baptisms for the children. 05.08.1779 READ ANN D RICHARD & MARY WROUGHTON 06.04.1787 READ ELIZABETH D RICHARD & MARY WROUGHTON 15.09.1782 READ RICHARD S RICHARD & MARY WROUGHTON 08 Jul 1781 Read Mary D RICHD & Mary Wroughton A Richard READ aged 82 was buried June 12 1815 and a possible entry for Mary Read aged 85 25 Sept 1929. There is a marriage 27 Jan 1779 for a Richard READ, widower of Stratton St Margaret and Mary READ, widow of Wroughton. The bondsman was Maurice King. There is another marriage 30 Jan 1777 for a Stephen READ and Mary KING both of Wroughton, bondman is Richard READ, Stratton St Margaret, Wilts. A Stephen READ was buried in Wroughton July 19 1778. A possible first marriage for Richard was at Stratton St Mary in 10 Jan 1775 to a Martha Gray. There is a burial for Martha READ at Stratton St Mary, wife of Richard READ but no date. Regards Julie -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nhbrain@tpg.com.au Sent: 20 April 2011 02:40 To: ENG-WILTSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Read, Stratton St. Margaret Dear Wiltshire people, I am hoping that someone can assist me with my queries, which I believe relate to Swindon or Stratton St. Margaret. My husband�s ancestors all appear to be named Richard Read. I have one generation sorted, but the previous one is giving me some problems. That Richard died in Wroughton, leaving an 1815 will, naming wife Mary and brothers in law Morris and Richard King executors, but I cannot find birth or marriage details for this Richard or for children whose names appear to be Richard, Mary, Elizabeth and Ann. There could have been more, but these names are taken from his will. Thank you for any assistance that can be given. Heather Brain Mel. Vic. A ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Wiltshire people, I am hoping that someone can assist me with my queries, which I believe relate to Swindon or Stratton St. Margaret. My husband’s ancestors all appear to be named Richard Read. I have one generation sorted, but the previous one is giving me some problems. That Richard died in Wroughton, leaving an 1815 will, naming wife Mary and brothers in law Morris and Richard King executors, but I cannot find birth or marriage details for this Richard or for children whose names appear to be Richard, Mary, Elizabeth and Ann. There could have been more, but these names are taken from his will. Thank you for any assistance that can be given. Heather Brain Mel. Vic. A

My interest is the ancestor of Richard Rivers who was married three times, the second wife being Joan de Porte (wdw) John Marshall (elder brother of William Marshall Earl of Pembroke) It is possible that he descends from the Vernons of Shipbrook but currently lack definite evidence. John Marshall succeeded to his father's property (Marlborough Castle and adjoining lands Wiltshire) 1166/1167, and subsequently held a number of posts including the appointment of sheriff of York (1189-1190) and sheriff of Sussex (Bosham) 1191-1193, before being killed 1194 defending the castle of Marlborough from forces of the A/B Canterbury. It is possible that Richard Rivers became acquainted with Joan de Porte whilst she was married to John Marshall. Another possibility is that Rivers became acquainted through William Marshall. The thoughts of you genealogical experts would be appreciated. Paul Bulkley

I am investigating this man as a possible ancestor could any one direct me to where I can find a marriage if there was one I know his parents were William and Joan and I am hoping he married a Catherine and moved to West Berks as was now Oxon . I would be grateful for any assistance

Here is a HIBBARD / HULL family group for you. Charles James HIBBARD had been born in Stanton St. Quintin,Wilts, about 1858. Mary HULL, was born in Sutton Benger, Wilts, about 1856 and was baptized there 1856. In 1887, in Chippenham district, Wilts, Mary HULL and Charles James HIBBARD were married. In the 1891 census, Charles J. Hibbard 33, farmer, and Mary 34, his wife, were enumerated in Manor Farm, Stanton St. Quintin, Wilts, with two daughters in their household. They were farmers living at 46 Clarendon Road, Redland, Bristol, Holy Trinity parish, with 4 kids, in the 1901 and the 1911 censuses. Mary Hibbard’s death, at the age of 82, was recorded in Bristol in 1939. Charles and Mary had issue: a. Mabel Susannah HIBBARD, born about Q1 of 1889 in Stanton St. Quintin. Mabel was enumerated in parents’ home in Stanton St. Quinton, Wilts, in the 1891 census; enumerated in her parents’ home in Bristol, Holy Trinity, at the 1901 and 1911 censuses. b. Winifred Mary HIBBARD, born about Q3 of 1890, in Stanton St. Quintin. Winifred was enumerated in parents’ home in Stanton St. Quinton, Wilts, in the 1891 census; enumerated in her parents’ home in Bristol, Holy Trinity, at the 1901 and 1911 censuses. c. James HIBBARD, born about Q3 of 1892, in Stanton St. Quintin. James enumerated in parents’ home in Bristol, Holy Trinity, at the 1901 and 1911 censuses. d. Frances Eva HIBBARD, born about Q1 of 1895, in Stanton St. Quintin. Frances enumerated in parents’ home in Bristol, Holy Trinity, at the 1901 and 1911 censuses. I would be delighted to correspond and to share family history notes with any descendant or researcher of this family, all cousins of mine. Best wishes. Peter Ferreira Toronto, Canada.

I am forwarding this on behalf of Richard, a distant cousin; Richard writes: On 9 October 1795 John GREGORY, a baker in Frome, was committed to the Kings Bench Prison in London for a debt of £193 and was still there on 1 January 1797. In July of that year he petitioned for release but as yet I have not been able to find the petition or the record of its outcome. However he had been released by 1 Jan 1801. His creditor was Stephen NOKES, whose name does not appear in the records of St John's Church, Frome. I have not looked in the records of other Frome parishes, nor have I widened my search to other parts of Somerset, or over the border into Wiltshire. Does anyone know who this Stephen NOKES was? In particular I would like to know his occupation and abode. Did he supply flour or suchlike for the bakery, or was this a personal debt unrelated to John GREGORY's occupation? Richard PS, I bear no malice to any descendant of the man who had my 5xg-gf banged up.

Here is another family group for you. Daniel WILKINS was baptized in Luckington, Wilts, in 1804 (BVRI-2). Daniel married Hannah BOULTER, who had been born in Marksbury, Somerset, about 1806. They farmed in Farmborough and in Chelwood, both in Somerset. Daniel was also an innkeeper. Hannah died in Chelwood, in 1867. Daniel died in 1884, in Publow, Som.. Daniel and Hannah had issue, including: 1. Anne Boulter WILKINS, bapt. 1836, in All Saints, Farmborough, Som. Ann married Joseph WOOKEY, who was a labourer in stone; they lived in Publow, Somerset, and elsewhere in the county. In 1861 Joseph was a farmer in Publow, Som.. At the 1881 census, for Mortimer, Berks, Joseph 50 was a farm bailiff, living with Annie 46 and their 6 youngest children. Joseph died in 1899 and Ann in 1900. Joseph and Ann had issue. 2. Martha WILKINS, bapt. 1837, in All Saints, Farmborough, Som. Martha married Henry HUMPHRIES. By 1881, Martha was a widow, living with her father. They had one son. 3. Elizabeth WILKINS, bapt. 1839, in Chelwood, Som. Elizabeth married George William PIKE (1835 – 1888), a Relieving Officer. At the 1881 census, they lived in Chew Magna, Somerset. George and Elizabeth had issue. 4. William WILKINS, bapt. on September 12th., 1841, in Chelwood, Som. William married Matilda WOOKEY (1854 – 1932). At the 1881 census, William was a farmer on 75 acres in Green Farm, Chelwood. William died in Chelwood, in 1913; Matilda died in 1932. William and Matilda had issue. 5. Robert WILKINS, bapt. on February 4th., 1844, in Chelwood, Som. On April 15th., 1880, in St. Peter’s, Bristol, in Barton Regis district, Robert married Caroline BOWLES. Robert was an inn-keeper in the Myrtle Tree, Bristol. Robert died in 1894; Caroline died in 1954. Robert and Caroline had one known child, a daughter. I am keen to make contact, and to share WILKINS family history notes, with any descendant or researcher of this family, all cousins of mine. Best wishes. Peter Ferreira Toronto, Canada.

Here is a Berkshire and Wiltshire family group for you. James LAWRENCE was born in Idstone, Berks, in the parish of Ashbury, in 1842. On February 1st., 1866, in Sparsholt church, James married Martha Godfrey FROGLEY. James was a well-known pig farmer and they farmed in Uffington, Berks, till about 1878; in Wanborough Pl., Wanborough, Wilts; at Hill Farm in Hinton Parva, Wilts; and at Stall Pitts Farm in Shrivenham, Berks. Martha 78 died in Uffington and was buried in Shrivenham on December 15th., 1923; and James 90 died in Fernham and was buried in Shrivenham on May 6th., 1933. James and Martha had issue, including: 1. James William LAWRENCE, born in Uffington, Berks, about 1868, baptized there on April 28th., 1868. On October 25th., 1904, at Inkpen, in Hungerford district, James 36, bachelor, coal merchant of West Wickham married his first cousin Ada Godwin LAWRENCE 33. James and Ada had issue. 2. Sydney Herbert LAWRENCE, born about 1870, baptized in Uffington on July 31st., 1870. In Q3 of 1898, in Tetbury district, Sydney Herbert married Frances Jane BEAVEN. Sydney and Frances had issue. 3. Henry Percy Lawrence, born in Uffington, Berks, about 1873, baptized in Uffington on September 1st., 1873. 4. Walter Godfrey LAWRENCE, born in Uffington, Berks, about 1875, baptized in Uffington on April 18th., 1875. On October 10th., 1912, in Ashbury church, Walter 37, bachelor, farmer of Shrivenham, Berks, married Ethel Kate TAYLER 26, of Idstone. Walter farmed in Rudge Farm, Froxfield, Hungerford, Berks. They had issue. 5. Ethel Marion LAWRENCE, born in Uffington, Berks, about 1876, baptized in Uffington on January 28th., 1877. On April 26th., 1905, in Shrivenham church, Ethel 28 married Jethro Kinch COLEING 46, farmer in Hampton in the parish of Highworth, Wilts. They had issue, all born in Hampton, in Highworth parish: 6. Agnes Ellen LAWRENCE, born in Wanborough, Wilts, about 1880. On March 26th., 1912, in Shrivenham church, Agnes 31 married Ebenezer Samuel WHATLEY 33, farmer of Chiseldon, Wilts. About 1909. Sam had migrated to Saskachewan, Canada, and bought a farm in Kindersley, Saskatchewan. Sam was, later, a member of Provincial Parliament for Kindersley. Agnes died about 1966. Sam and Agnes farmed in Kindersley, Sask, where they had issue. 7. Richard Hull LAWREMCE, born in Hinton Parva, Wilts, about 1882. On November 19th., 1913, in Lullington, Somerset, Richard married Elizabeth Blanche SWANTON of Lullington, Somerset. Richard was a farmer in Round Robin Farm in Highworth, Wilts; later, he farmed Rectory Farm in Idstone. Richard 86 died in 1968 at Rectory Farm, Idstone, Berks, and was buried in Ashbury on April 18th., 1968; Elizabeth Blanch Lawrence died in Idstone and was buried in Ashbury on December 17th., 1964, aged 87?. They had issue. 8. Francis John LAWRENCE, born in Hill Farm, Hinton Parva, Wilts, about 1884. In the early 1900s, Francis migrated to South Africa, where he was a miller. He married (1) ???? Orlando who died without issue; and (2) Barbara HUTTINGH. Francis and Barbara had issue. I am keen to make contact, and to share Lawrence family history notes, with any descendant or researcher of this family, all cousins of mine. Best wishes. Peter Ferreira Toronto, Canada.

Is anyone interested in the SPELT family who were quite prolific and prominent in counties such as Hants, Sussex, Wilts from the 1500s to late 1800s.  Curiously, the name has disappeared completely from UK with not a single Spelt birth (even with Spelt the mother's maiden name) or marriage in almost 100 yrs. Francis Auckland, NZ

Hi Linda There were Gale's in Kington St Michael and Box both in Wiltshire. I have the baptism records for both places but cant identify your Joseph. Regards Alan -----Original Message----- From: linda.gale@care4free.net Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:51 AM To: ENG-WILTSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Joseph Gale Hi I have just joined this list. Very recently I have discovered that my line of the Gale family has probably originated in Wiltshire and more specifically in Chippenham. The Joseph Gale in which I am interseted was married in Lewisham, Kent in 1805. The marriage record in the register is anotated with 'born Chippenham'. It is likely that he was born from about 1755 to 1787 allowing his age to be anything from 18 to 50 when he married. I bought the microfiche from the FHS and have discovered about 4 possible Joseph Gale's christened in the period 1773 to 1783. I wonder if anyone has researched any of these Gale families and have any suggestiond which family my Joseph belonged to. Any suggestions? Linda Gale ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, The above couple married at Kingswood 30 Sep 1793. Can anyone point me to their families? Children were baptized at Rangeworthy in Gloucestershire which is where the couple lived. Thanks, Jack

Hi I have just joined this list. Very recently I have discovered that my line of the Gale family has probably originated in Wiltshire and more specifically in Chippenham. The Joseph Gale in which I am interseted was married in Lewisham, Kent in 1805. The marriage record in the register is anotated with 'born Chippenham'. It is likely that he was born from about 1755 to 1787 allowing his age to be anything from 18 to 50 when he married. I bought the microfiche from the FHS and have discovered about 4 possible Joseph Gale's christened in the period 1773 to 1783. I wonder if anyone has researched any of these Gale families and have any suggestiond which family my Joseph belonged to. Any suggestions? Linda Gale

Ooooooops!!  The last GRAYELL should have been GREYELL.  Senior moment and only half proof reading!!  <vbg> Sorry Mike I would be interested in seeing your ancestry so I know what I can help you with.  I have lots on the GRAYELL//GRAYLE name which is the line I am descended from but I have also quite a bit on the GRAYELL name. Mike in Kawerau NZ.