Welcome, Ruth <G> I am no help with what you want I just wanted to wave <G> Eliz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Johnson" <ruthjo@adam.com.au> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:23 AM Subject: [ENG-WIL] BATSON IN RAMSBURY. | G`day, | first time on this list from Ruth in South Australia. | | On the 1891 Census for Great Ringstead in Norfolk is my widowed g-grandmother Mary Ann FRAMINGHAM (nee GREENGRASS) and some of her children including my grandfather Frederick who later gave the names Arthur Wellesley to his youngest son. Mary Ann is a live in domestic servant to the Rector Arthur Wellesley BATSON, clergyman, musician and painter. | Although he was born in Devon the family seem to hail from Ramsbury in Wilshire and resided at a place called the Rookery. Most of the family appear to have been both or clergyman and artists. | If anyone has any knowledge of this family or where there might be portraits or photographs it would be greatly appreciated. | Cheers from Ruth in Adelaide. | | researching:- FRAMINGHAM, anywhere. | GREENGRASS, Norfolk. | SINCLAIR, Sunderland, Co; Durham & Banff, Scotland. | PRIOR, Sunderland, Co; Durham & Co; Cavan, Ireland. | McGINNITY, Sunderland, Co; Durham, & North; Ireland. | | | ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== | To search or browse the list ARCHIVES, SUBSCRIBE, or UNSUBSCRIBE see: | http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-WILTSHIRE.html | | Write to ENG-WILTSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com to contact the administrator. | | ============================== | Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the | last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx | | |

Hi Ruth, 'The Rookery' in Ramsbury is known these days as 'Parliament Piece'. After Ramsbury Manor, It is probably one of the most important houses in Ramsbury. To see what it looks like go http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=ramsbury or just do a Ramsbury search on eBay and there eight photographs of the house. Imposing, isn't it? The search also lists for sale an excellent book on the history of Ramsbury by Barbara Croucher which has another photo of Parliament Piece. I'm not suggesting you buy the book but if you can borrow one through a library loan scheme, there are several references to members of the Batson family but sadly no photographs. Again, if you go to http://www.oodwooc.co.uk/ph_rams_mem1.htm you will find photographs of two memorials to members of the Batson family. Sadly, one of them is very indistinct. Julia Hunt -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Johnson [mailto:ruthjo@adam.com.au] Sent: 13 May 2006 07:23 To: ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WIL] BATSON IN RAMSBURY. G`day, first time on this list from Ruth in South Australia. On the 1891 Census for Great Ringstead in Norfolk is my widowed g-grandmother Mary Ann FRAMINGHAM (nee GREENGRASS) and some of her children including my grandfather Frederick who later gave the names Arthur Wellesley to his youngest son. Mary Ann is a live in domestic servant to the Rector Arthur Wellesley BATSON, clergyman, musician and painter. Although he was born in Devon the family seem to hail from Ramsbury in Wilshire and resided at a place called the Rookery. Most of the family appear to have been both or clergyman and artists. If anyone has any knowledge of this family or where there might be portraits or photographs it would be greatly appreciated. Cheers from Ruth in Adelaide. researching:- FRAMINGHAM, anywhere. GREENGRASS, Norfolk. SINCLAIR, Sunderland, Co; Durham & Banff, Scotland. PRIOR, Sunderland, Co; Durham & Co; Cavan, Ireland. McGINNITY, Sunderland, Co; Durham, & North; Ireland. ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== To search or browse the list ARCHIVES, SUBSCRIBE, or UNSUBSCRIBE see: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-WILTSHIRE.html Write to ENG-WILTSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com to contact the administrator. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/338 - Release Date: 12/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/338 - Release Date: 12/05/2006

Hi Eliz, May I trouble you to see if there are any entries for any Stent's in the 1839 Warminster directory please? Many thanks, Dorothy

Hi, l am trying to find a listing in a trade directory from the mid 1830's for my GILES family in Warminster, would anyone know of an on-line site where l could access the info? if not if anyone has access to such a directory would they very kindly look to see if there is a listing for the above? Any help or guidance would be very much appreciated. Kind Regards Robert

Hello Valerie Thank you very much for the info off the 1851 census. I aready had a Jacob married to a Sarah with a daughter Rachel but that is all I knew,nothing more. I think Jacob must be a brother to my William as he appears to be born within a year or two of William. Also William had a child in 1846 and called him Jacob,brother to my gt grandmother. This now gives me much more info, Once again thank you for taking the time to look this up for me. BFN JEnny Mische

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ash, Udy, Horton, Hands plus others Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EUC.2ACI/537.850.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Everyone mentioned in your message is in my tree. Please contact me : alectrea@aapt.net.au

Tried a search on Ancestry 1851 with these details. Result - no trace STENT WARMINSTER produced only two results John STENT born WARMINSTER c 1821 in SUSSEX Joseph STENT born WARMINSTER c 1800 in BERKSHIRE Jim http://www.payman.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk Dorothy Spence <rottimum@platinum.ca> wrote: Would SKS who has the Warminster 1851 census look up an entry for me please? I am looking for: Youstiss Stent on HO107/1843, Folio 209, Page 25, Schedule 96, Warminster. Many thanks, Dorothy, Canada ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== Please keep messages to the list on topic. No off-topic subjects, announcements, or the like without prior permission from the administrator (ENG-WILTSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com). ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ALEXANDER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/EUC.2ACI/3089 Message Board Post: I am looking to confirm the birth of my g-g-granfather, John Charles Alexander in the mid 1820s in the Calne area. John Charles Alexander joined the Royal Fusilers in the Crimean War and stayed in the armed services until he moved to Canada in the 1860s with his wife and children... although they lived in Aldershot during the 1861 census. Family stories say he had a brother name Thomas who was a Wiltshire policeman, a sister named Fanny and his father may have been named William. Any assistance in connecting my g-g-grandfather with WIltshire ancestors would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/rw/EUC.2ACI/3088.2 Message Board Post: 1841 Census, a possible! There are 15 Batchelor's at Ablington, Figheldean, Wilts inc the two below. William Batchelor: age 15: ag lab. Francis Bathelor: age 13. They are not living with their parents, but with a mixed lot of ag labs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1891 Census BATCHELOR, William: Head: age 65: Shoemaker: born Figheldean Wilts BATCHELOR, Mary A: Wife: age 64 : born Fermoy Ireland. CURRAN, James F: Son In Law: Married: age 34: Coal Miner: born Middleton Lancashire CURRAN, Theresa: Daughter: Married: age 31. born Calcutta East India CURRAN, Mary E: Grandchild: age 7: Scholar born Hollinwood Lancashire CURRAN, Georgina: Grandchild: age 5: Scholar born Oldham Lancashire CURRAN, Eli Grandchild: age 9 months. RG number: RG12 Piece: 3304 Folio: 80 Page: 29 Registration District: Oldham Sub District: Oldham Below Town EnumerationDistrict: 35 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Johns Civil Parish: Oldham Municipal Borough: Oldham Address: 37, Cambridge Street, Oldham Theresa Batchelor married James Frederick Curran: Dec qtr 1878 Oldham Theresa Batchelor born 1860 Calcutta, India. Father in 60th Rifles. Brian

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/EUC.2ACI/3088.1 Message Board Post: Hello Anne - if you don't have it already, could this be your William in 1841? Figheldean, Ablington William BATCHELOR 17 Ag lab Francis 13 Ag lab Both born in county. There is also an older couple in Figheldean - William BATCHELOR 50 and Rebecca 55. Also a Thomas BATCHELOR 30. William and Rebecca appear to be in Fittleton in 1851 with a daughter Rhoda 29. All are listed as born Figheldean. In 1841 Rhoda is in Fittleton, a sevant at Fittleton Manor House. Hope this is helpful. Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EUC.2ACI/2542.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Chris, Thanks for your reply. It is useful to me as a process of elimination because I now doubt whether Joseph Barnes living at The Shambles in Chippenham (1841) is mine. Do you have further census info on him and does he continue in the Shoe trade? The Joseph Barnes on my tree, having married in Chippenham in 1842, becomes a Beer Seller by the time of the 1871 census. Unfortunately, I cannot find him in 1861 but in the 1851 census I think he is a Labourer living with his family in West Ham.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EUC.2ACI/3086.1 Message Board Post: hi Cant find her on the 1851 but i did find a death for a Love Ingram 1810 at Broad Chalke must be related in some way to your Love Ingram Shelagh

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Batchelor Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/EUC.2ACI/3034.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Have posted on message board re Wm Batchelor 1825/6. Have you come across this strand too?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Batchelor Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/EUC.2ACI/3088 Message Board Post: Can trace this Wm Batchelor on 1871, 1881 and 1901 census. Birth place listed as (i) Humsbury Wilts, (ii) Fielden Amesbury, (iii) Fighealden; and name spelled incorrectly as Batereler in transcript for 1901. Have photo of him in Army uniform. Daughter born in Calcutta my great-gran. HIs son's family (Thomas 1862/63) in Chadderton Lancashire.

Would SKS who has the Warminster 1851 census look up an entry for me please? I am looking for: Youstiss Stent on HO107/1843, Folio 209, Page 25, Schedule 96, Warminster. Many thanks, Dorothy, Canada

Rachael; Thank you, I would appreciate their phone number. If there is a marker then they probably covered it up. But it will be fun to ask. Thank you! Keith -----Original Message----- From: dhrg [mailto:dhrg@lineone.net] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:16 PM To: ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WIL] Re: Back Street Church / Bethesda Chapel in Trowbridge Hi Keith The name of the cafe in the old Bethesda Church is now Boswells (think it was Dutch or Danish something prior to this). Shall I give you the phone number and you can enquire yourself ;-) Think the only 'plaques' to be found in there are the menu boards! Rachael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny De Angelis" <jennydea@lycos.com> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Back Street Church / Bethesda Chapel in Trowbridge > Hi Keith, > > I found a photo of the Bethesda Chapel on line, one of my husband's Gt. > Grandfather's married there in the 1872. > > Here is a page from the Wilts CRO about the church and the Back Street > Chapel connection. > http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/community/getchurch.php?id=349 it has a couple > of photos. > > You might find that if you contact the CRO they may have more photos or > information about the church and the chapel. > > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > Spain. > > > > I have just joined this list as I am researching my GGG Grandfather, Peter > > MACFARLANE (1780-1826), who was a Baptist minister at the Back Street > > Church in Trowbridge from 1816-1821 and was the first minister of the > > Bethesda Baptist Chapel in Trowbridge from 1821 -1826 when he died. He > > was interred under the pulpit of the Bethesda Baptist Chapel on 4th April > > 1826. I understand that the chapel is now a café in the Shire Mall. <snip> ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== Ordering BMD Certificates: see http://www.statistics.gov.uk/nsbase/registration/certificates.asp http://www.statistics.gov.uk/nsbase/registration/certe_w/fees.asp ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Ruth Try www.ramsbury.com to get a feel of the place, But also Google Batson and Ramsbury they do pop up! Chris

Hi Keith The name of the cafe in the old Bethesda Church is now Boswells (think it was Dutch or Danish something prior to this). Shall I give you the phone number and you can enquire yourself ;-) Think the only 'plaques' to be found in there are the menu boards! Rachael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny De Angelis" <jennydea@lycos.com> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Back Street Church / Bethesda Chapel in Trowbridge > Hi Keith, > > I found a photo of the Bethesda Chapel on line, one of my husband's Gt. > Grandfather's married there in the 1872. > > Here is a page from the Wilts CRO about the church and the Back Street > Chapel connection. > http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/community/getchurch.php?id=349 it has a couple > of photos. > > You might find that if you contact the CRO they may have more photos or > information about the church and the chapel. > > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > Spain. > > > > I have just joined this list as I am researching my GGG Grandfather, Peter > > MACFARLANE (1780-1826), who was a Baptist minister at the Back Street > > Church in Trowbridge from 1816-1821 and was the first minister of the > > Bethesda Baptist Chapel in Trowbridge from 1821 -1826 when he died. He > > was interred under the pulpit of the Bethesda Baptist Chapel on 4th April > > 1826. I understand that the chapel is now a café in the Shire Mall. <snip>

Hi Pat, you'd almost certainly be looking at Bushton Wilts. It's 1 mile from Clyffe Pypard, near Wootten Bassett. I had a quick look in the 1881 census, and there IS a family of Barrett's with children born in Bushton, but their William is too young, at 8. There are a few Williams of the right age born in nearby Aldbourn (or Aldbourne) and Stratton St Margaret though. Kind regards, and happy hunting! Val Burge, Sydney, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lactodorum192242@aol.com> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:26 PM Subject: [ENG-WIL] Where is this? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: barrett / ellis > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EUC.2ACI/3087 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi, > The 1901 Census RG13/1202 shows Wm BARRETT as born c1863 from RUSHTON, WILTSHIRE. > trying to find him as a single man in the 1891 census by his date and place of birth is proving difficult. Where is RUSHTON and where should I be looking. > PLEASE HELP - a brickwall way too soon !!!!!! > > TIA Pat > > > ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Limit signature lines to four lines or less. DO NOT include all surnames > that you are researching -- they are a waste of space and make searching > the archives frustrating and pointless. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/336 - Release Date: 10/05/06 > >

Thanks to all who have replied on this theme. Shall now just have to find when he died............. Liz At 03:06 08/05/2006, you wrote: >Can I add to this - lots of people have helped. Just one more question. If > > Edward Hooper was deceased by 1883, would it have said so on his >daughter's > > wedding certificate? It describes her father as Commercial Traveller, but > > it would appear that he was dead by 1871. > >I have many marriage certificates and the answer is no it doesnt always say >the father is deceased , I have many where I know the father was dead and it >still describes the profession . >Best wishes Valerie Elizabeth Lane Worthing West Sussex liz_lane@ntlworld.com