Hello I wonder if there is some kind Soul out there who can get access to the original Parish Register for Burials for Marlborough, St Mary, to see if this Richard below was a "son of" which would indicate a child's death, or just plain Richard,where it was an probably an adult burial. If it was a child I may be "barking up the wrong tree" with a line I am researching. Happy to do reciprocal research here in Sydney where the Society of Australian Genealogists (SAG) has excellent UK holdings as well as Aussie ones. Regards Jill in Sydney Richard WINKWORTH anywhere during 1629 in National Burial Index (Wiltshire FHS) . 1 results found. 1. Name Richard WINKWORTH Date 11 Sep 1629 Aged -Place Marlborough Description St Mary the Virgin Denomination Anglican County code WIL Amount paid £0.06

Hi again Jill and listers! I really shouldn't write my messages so early in the morning. I very much regret having looked at the baptisms by mistake. The burial record for Richard WINKWORTH on 11 Sep 1629 in fact gives no further details. He was almost certainly the Richard (already mentioned) who was baptised 1 March 1615/16, son of "Aldam". The scribe very probably meant to write "Adam" but these things can't be taken for granted. At least my original mistake confirms that Richard was about 14 or 15 years old when he died. Best wishes Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Vivash" <epvivash@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-WIL] Marlborough Burial PR lookup Request Please > Hi Jill! > > From my transcripts of St. Mary's burials I note 7 WINKEWORTH burials, all > between 1615 and 1630. There is just one Richard WINKEWORTH buried 1st > March 1615/16. He is shown as son of "Aldam". There is no burial at all > recorded on 11 Sep 1629. > > Regards > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jill Forster" <ronforster@s054.aone.net.au> > To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:43 AM > Subject: [ENG-WIL] Marlborough Burial PR lookup Request Please > > > > Hello > > > > I wonder if there is some kind Soul out there who > > can get access to the original Parish > > Register for Burials for Marlborough, St Mary, to > > see if this Richard below was a "son of" > > which would indicate a child's death, or just > > plain Richard,where it was an probably an > > adult burial. > > > > If it was a child I may be "barking up the wrong > > tree" with a line I am researching. > > > > Happy to do reciprocal research here in Sydney where the Society of > Australian > > Genealogists (SAG) has excellent UK holdings as well as Aussie ones. > > > > Regards > > > > Jill in Sydney > > > > Richard WINKWORTH anywhere during 1629 in > > National Burial Index (Wiltshire FHS) . > > 1 results found. > > > > 1. Name Richard WINKWORTH Date 11 Sep 1629 Aged > > -Place Marlborough Description St Mary the Virgin > > Denomination Anglican County code WIL > > Amount paid £0.06 > > > > > > ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Virus information: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/announce.html#virus > > Mailing lists: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html > > or http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/MailingLists.html > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Please keep messages to the list on topic. No off-topic subjects, announcements, or the like without prior permission from the > administrator (ENG-WILTSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com). > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Don't know what happened to Martyn's email address. It is: wrso@wiltshire.go.uk Julia -----Original Message----- From: Julia Hunt [mailto:julia.hunt@ntlworld.com] Sent: 11 July 2006 09:17 To: ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ENG-WIL] Marlborough Burial PR lookup Request Please Hi Jill, As you have a specific request of checking a parish register entry from given information, I suggest you email Martyn Henderson at the Wiltshire & Swindon Record Office - HYPERLINK "mailto:wsro@wiltshire.gov.uk"wsro@wiltshire.gov.uk He is a search room assistant and deals with specific, short requests. If you send him the information you have, he will check your NBI entry against the actual burial register. Julia Hunt -----Original Message----- From: Jill Forster [HYPERLINK "mailto:ronforster@s054.aone.net.au"mailto:ronforster@s054.aone.net.au] Sent: 11 July 2006 05:44 To: ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WIL] Marlborough Burial PR lookup Request Please Hello I wonder if there is some kind Soul out there who can get access to the original Parish Register for Burials for Marlborough, St Mary, to see if this Richard below was a "son of" which would indicate a child's death, or just plain Richard,where it was an probably an adult burial. If it was a child I may be "barking up the wrong tree" with a line I am researching. Happy to do reciprocal research here in Sydney where the Society of Australian Genealogists (SAG) has excellent UK holdings as well as Aussie ones. Regards Jill in Sydney Richard WINKWORTH anywhere during 1629 in National Burial Index (Wiltshire FHS) . 1 results found. 1. Name Richard WINKWORTH Date 11 Sep 1629 Aged -Place Marlborough Description St Mary the Virgin Denomination Anglican County code WIL Amount paid £0.06 ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== Virus information: HYPERLINK "http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/announce.html#virus"http://helpdesk.rootsw eb.com/announce.html#virus Mailing lists: HYPERLINK "http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html"http://www.r ootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html or HYPERLINK "http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/MailingLists.html"http://www.genuki.or g.uk/indexes/MailingLists.html ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: HYPERLINK "http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx"http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/r d.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 07/07/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 07/07/2006 ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== Please keep messages to the list on topic. No off-topic subjects, announcements, or the like without prior permission from the administrator (ENG-WILTSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com). ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 07/07/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 07/07/2006

Hi Jill, As you have a specific request of checking a parish register entry from given information, I suggest you email Martyn Henderson at the Wiltshire & Swindon Record Office - HYPERLINK "mailto:wsro@wiltshire.gov.uk"wsro@wiltshire.gov.uk He is a search room assistant and deals with specific, short requests. If you send him the information you have, he will check your NBI entry against the actual burial register. Julia Hunt -----Original Message----- From: Jill Forster [HYPERLINK "mailto:ronforster@s054.aone.net.au"mailto:ronforster@s054.aone.net.au] Sent: 11 July 2006 05:44 To: ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WIL] Marlborough Burial PR lookup Request Please Hello I wonder if there is some kind Soul out there who can get access to the original Parish Register for Burials for Marlborough, St Mary, to see if this Richard below was a "son of" which would indicate a child's death, or just plain Richard,where it was an probably an adult burial. If it was a child I may be "barking up the wrong tree" with a line I am researching. Happy to do reciprocal research here in Sydney where the Society of Australian Genealogists (SAG) has excellent UK holdings as well as Aussie ones. Regards Jill in Sydney Richard WINKWORTH anywhere during 1629 in National Burial Index (Wiltshire FHS) . 1 results found. 1. Name Richard WINKWORTH Date 11 Sep 1629 Aged -Place Marlborough Description St Mary the Virgin Denomination Anglican County code WIL Amount paid £0.06 ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== Virus information: HYPERLINK "http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/announce.html#virus"http://helpdesk.rootsw eb.com/announce.html#virus Mailing lists: HYPERLINK "http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html"http://www.r ootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html or HYPERLINK "http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/MailingLists.html"http://www.genuki.or g.uk/indexes/MailingLists.html ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: HYPERLINK "http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx"http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/r d.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 07/07/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 07/07/2006

Hi Jill! From my transcripts of St. Mary's burials I note 7 WINKEWORTH burials, all between 1615 and 1630. There is just one Richard WINKEWORTH buried 1st March 1615/16. He is shown as son of "Aldam". There is no burial at all recorded on 11 Sep 1629. Regards Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Forster" <ronforster@s054.aone.net.au> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:43 AM Subject: [ENG-WIL] Marlborough Burial PR lookup Request Please > Hello > > I wonder if there is some kind Soul out there who > can get access to the original Parish > Register for Burials for Marlborough, St Mary, to > see if this Richard below was a "son of" > which would indicate a child's death, or just > plain Richard,where it was an probably an > adult burial. > > If it was a child I may be "barking up the wrong > tree" with a line I am researching. > > Happy to do reciprocal research here in Sydney where the Society of Australian > Genealogists (SAG) has excellent UK holdings as well as Aussie ones. > > Regards > > Jill in Sydney > > Richard WINKWORTH anywhere during 1629 in > National Burial Index (Wiltshire FHS) . > 1 results found. > > 1. Name Richard WINKWORTH Date 11 Sep 1629 Aged > -Place Marlborough Description St Mary the Virgin > Denomination Anglican County code WIL > Amount paid £0.06 > > > ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Virus information: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/announce.html#virus > Mailing lists: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html > or http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/MailingLists.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Sorry if this appeared overnight but I didn't receive it myself so thought I would re-send. Mike Hello from NZ. I would be very grateful if anyone is able to tell me the names of the incumbents of the Great Somerford parish in the period 1720 to 1740. Failing an answer from you very knowledgeable people any suggestions of where I may find the answer would be most welcome. Thanks. Mike

Hello from NZ. I would be very grateful if anyone is able to tell me the names of the incumbents of the Great Somerford parish in the period 1720 to 1740. Failing an answer from you very knowledgeable people any suggestions of where I may find the answer would be most welcome. Thanks. Mike

Hi Listers, Three distant SLY ancestors were at Netherhampton Manor in the 1871 census. It appeared to be a boarding school and I am trying to find any details of it's use as a school or if it is still standing. Can anyone help please ? I have been unable to trace a record of the school so far and any information would be gratefully received. Kind Regards, Jan Budden.

Sorry, no. All mine were in Rutland and Leicestershire before they started moving south and west around 1830. Elizabeth Elizabeth Duke Dunedin New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "janice lutz" <jnybltz@msn.com> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WIL] CHAMBERS > Hello, No I don't have anything that ties to these Chambers. Do you by any chance have an Elizabeth Chambers born abt 1743 and died 30 Nov 1783 at Fisherton Anger? She married Alexander Barnes 5 Sep 1762 also at Fisherton Anger. Janice <snip>

Something wierd going on here. I checked my sent items list and your address not even on it. I actually clicked onto "Reply to Sender" Strange things go on "out there" regards daphne daphne.guthrie@xtra.co.nz Researching areas: Medway, Kent;Wiltshire;Hampshire:Dorset; Sussex;Essex & Norfolk England. Fyfe Scotland ----- Original Message ----- From: "SUZETTE MILNER" <suzeg@rogers.com> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WIL] Private Baptism > Hi, > > Just to let you know, I'm Suze, and I'm in Canada. > > Did you maybe sent this to the wrong address or maybe you forwarded it to > all. > > Suze > > "daphne.guthrie" <daphne.guthrie@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Yes private baptisms could be due to a child being sickly, and perhaps > not > expected to live. Private also can mean that they were baptised outside of > a normal church service. Hope this helps. > regards daphne > daphne.guthrie@xtra.co.nz > Researching areas: Medway, Kent;Wiltshire;Hampshire:Dorset; Sussex;Essex & > Norfolk England. Fyfe Scotland > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Philippa Garnsey" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 1:15 AM > Subject: [ENG-WIL] Private Baptism > > >>I have two infants in my family who were recorded as being privately >> baptised in the parish register. This was in 1817 in Salisbury. >> >> I assume that this means they were baptised in their home rather than the >> parish church. They were twins so could have been premature and in danger >> of >> dying before they could be baptised in the parish church. >> >> Could anyone comment on the reason for the private baptism? >> >> Many thanks >> >> Philippa Garnsey >> Sydney >> >> >> ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Virus information: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/announce.html#virus >> Mailing lists: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html >> or http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/MailingLists.html >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors >> at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> > > > > ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== > 1881 census, IGI (free): http://www.familysearch.org > 1901 census (free to search, pay to view): > www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk > A2A database: http://www.a2a.org.uk > Free BMD Project: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Ordering BMD Certificates: see > http://www.statistics.gov.uk/nsbase/registration/certificates.asp > http://www.statistics.gov.uk/nsbase/registration/certe_w/fees.asp > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Elizabeth, I'm sorry but I don't have any ties to your Chambers as yet. All of my Chambers info is from 1700's in Fisherton Anger, I am desirous of moving forward to and I will keep your information in case I learn more. Thank you very much. Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth Duke<mailto:elizabeth.duke@ihug.co.nz> To: ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-WIL] CHAMBERS Hi Janice, I am descended from the CHAMBERS family in Warminster, Wiltshire. George CHAMBERS, from Langham, in Rutland, married Amey COLLINS in Marshfield, Gloucestershire, in 1823. They baptised three children in Shepton Mallet, Somerset, and were in Warminster by 1835, where several more children were baptised. George kept the Organ tavern, while his son George became a watch and clock maker. Humphrey CHAMBERS, the youngest son of George & Amey, moved to Birmingham and is my great-grandfather. Do you see any connection with this family, about whom I have a fair bit of information? Elizabeth Elizabeth Duke Dunedin New Zealand ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== * UK genealogy: http://www.genuki.org.uk/<http://www.genuki.org.uk/> * Wiltshire County Council Research Guide: http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/index/heritage/wsro/researchguides.htm<http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/index/heritage/wsro/researchguides.htm> * Passenger lists, shipping schedules, etc.: http://TheShipsList.com/<http://theshipslist.com/> ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>

Regarding private Baptisms, as late as 1920 in Hertford unbaptised babies, should they die, could not be buried in the concentrated graveyard they had to be buried outside the grave yard fence with suicides. This so horrified my Australian born Grandmother that my mother, still going strong at 86, was privately baptised. Regards Elizabeth Roberts -----Original Message----- From: jeffgould@bulldoghome.com [mailto:jeffgould@bulldoghome.com] Sent: Sunday, 9 July 2006 6:08 PM To: ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WIL] Private Baptism Also, some of the gentry and aspiring gentry preferred privacy. In the larger parishes, and especially on Christmas Day, there were multiple baptisms done on the same day. It would be unseemly for some of the squirarchy to be having their baptisms viewed by the hoi polloi. Jeff On Sun, 9 July, 2006 4:31 am, daphne.guthrie wrote: > Yes private baptisms could be due to a child being sickly, and perhaps > not expected to live. Private also can mean that they were baptised > outside of a normal c.hurch service. Hope this helps. regards daphne > daphne.guthrie@xtra.co.nz Researching areas: Medway, > Kent;Wiltshire;Hampshire:Dorset; Sussex;Essex & > Norfolk England. Fyfe Scotland > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Philippa Garnsey" <pgar9629@bigpond.net.au> > To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 1:15 AM > Subject: [ENG-WIL] Private Baptism > > > >> I have two infants in my family who were recorded as being privately >> baptised in the parish register. This was in 1817 in Salisbury. >> >> I assume that this means they were baptised in their home rather than >> the parish church. They were twins so could have been premature and in >> danger of dying before they could be baptised in the parish church. >> >> Could anyone comment on the reason for the private baptism? >> >> >> Many thanks >> >> >> Philippa Garnsey >> Sydney >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Virus information: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/announce.html#virus >> Mailing lists: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html >> or http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/MailingLists.html >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 >> 9&targetid=5429 >> >> >> > > > > ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== > 1881 census, IGI (free): http://www.familysearch.org > 1901 census (free to search, pay to view): > www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk A2A database: http://www.a2a.org.uk > Free BMD Project: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ______________________________

Many thanks to everyone who provided the interesting information on the reason/s for private baptisms. I appreciate this information and have decided that these babes could have been in danger of dying but also that their parents may have considered themselves aspiring gentry and felt the need for private baptisms. I¹ll never really know but now have some options to consider. Thanks to you all Philippa Garnsey Sydney

Hello, No I don't have anything that ties to these Chambers. Do you by any chance have an Elizabeth Chambers born abt 1743 and died 30 Nov 1783 at Fisherton Anger? She married Alexander Barnes 5 Sep 1762 also at Fisherton Anger. Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth Duke<mailto:elizabeth.duke@ihug.co.nz> To: ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-WIL] CHAMBERS Hi Janice, I am descended from the CHAMBERS family in Warminster, Wiltshire. George CHAMBERS, from Langham, in Rutland, married Amey COLLINS in Marshfield, Gloucestershire, in 1823. They baptised three children in Shepton Mallet, Somerset, and were in Warminster by 1835, where several more children were baptised. George kept the Organ tavern, while his son George became a watch and clock maker. Humphrey CHAMBERS, the youngest son of George & Amey, moved to Birmingham and is my great-grandfather. Do you see any connection with this family, about whom I have a fair bit of information? Elizabeth Elizabeth Duke Dunedin New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "janice lutz" <jnybltz@msn.com<mailto:jnybltz@msn.com>> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:20 AM Subject: [ENG-WIL] Wiltshire names > I hope I am doing this correctly, if not please let me know how to post to this site. > I am researching the following names in Wiltshire: CHAMBERS, WHITE, UNDERHILL, TOWNSEND, BARNES, MARCHANT AND CHANT. Does anyone have ties to these names? Janice > <snip> ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== * UK genealogy: http://www.genuki.org.uk/<http://www.genuki.org.uk/> * Wiltshire County Council Research Guide: http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/index/heritage/wsro/researchguides.htm<http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/index/heritage/wsro/researchguides.htm> * Passenger lists, shipping schedules, etc.: http://TheShipsList.com/<http://theshipslist.com/> ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>

Hello from a cool Whakatane NZ. I am looking at the PIKE/PYKE families from Great Somerford to see if there is a connection to the Malmesbury PIKEs that I am descended from. GS is close to M after all. There is a lot of pre-1837 birth material in Hugh Wallis but few marriages, especially of males, and, of course, no deaths. I wondered if anyone has access to the GS PRs and can find any more marriages and deaths for me please. Thanks. Mike

Great Somerford Christening and marriages PR's are available on the IGI at http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true Batch numbers are as follows: Chr 1688-1812 batches J044192 and K044192, Chr 1813-1875 batch C044191, Mar 1605-1753 batch M044192 and 1754-1875 batch M044191 Happy hunting! Val ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike W" <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 5:17 PM Subject: [ENG-WIL] Great Somerford > Hello from a cool Whakatane NZ. > > I am looking at the PIKE/PYKE families from Great Somerford to see if there > is a connection to the Malmesbury PIKEs that I am descended from. GS is > close to M after all. > > There is a lot of pre-1837 birth material in Hugh Wallis but few marriages, > especially of males, and, of course, no deaths. > > I wondered if anyone has access to the GS PRs and can find any more > marriages and deaths for me please. > > Thanks. > > Mike > > > ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== > To search or browse the list ARCHIVES, SUBSCRIBE, or UNSUBSCRIBE see: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-WILTSHIRE.html > > Write to ENG-WILTSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com to contact the administrator. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/07/06 > >

The private baptism of a child who was not expected to live was sometimes known as a "half baptism". The thinking was that this would enable the soul of the dead child to "enter into the kingdom of heaven", although the child was not recognised as being a full member of the congregation. If the child survived, there was sometimes a further ceremony conducted at a Sunday service to "bring the child into church". (Meaning to accept the child into the congregation). See the following transcription from the Parish Registers of SS Peter & Paul, Charlton by Dover, Kent. (The entry is for my Great-Great-Grandfather's brother). "25th February 1839 private baptism of Edward Samuel son of Stephen and Elizabeth DIXON, Labourer. Brought into Church 2nd June 1839" (Edward lived to be 80). All the best Dave Dixon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 07/07/2006

I just got yours as well Suze :-) Personally, I prefer that answers to questions go to 'all', as it's then saved to the mailing list archives for future reference, and there are often people on the list interested in the same thing that go 'click' when they see an answer to someone else - or maybe able to help further with the enquiry. Val ----- Original Message ----- From: "SUZETTE MILNER" <suzeg@rogers.com> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WIL] Private Baptism > Hi, > > Just to let you know, I'm Suze, and I'm in Canada. > > Did you maybe sent this to the wrong address or maybe you forwarded it to all. > > Suze > > "daphne.guthrie" <daphne.guthrie@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Yes private baptisms could be due to a child being sickly, and perhaps not > expected to live. Private also can mean that they were baptised outside of > a normal church service. Hope this helps. > regards daphne > daphne.guthrie@xtra.co.nz > Researching areas: Medway, Kent;Wiltshire;Hampshire:Dorset; Sussex;Essex & > Norfolk England. Fyfe Scotland > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Philippa Garnsey" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 1:15 AM > Subject: [ENG-WIL] Private Baptism > > > >I have two infants in my family who were recorded as being privately > > baptised in the parish register. This was in 1817 in Salisbury. > > > > I assume that this means they were baptised in their home rather than the > > parish church. They were twins so could have been premature and in danger > > of > > dying before they could be baptised in the parish church. > > > > Could anyone comment on the reason for the private baptism? > > > > Many thanks > > > > Philippa Garnsey > > Sydney > > > > > > ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Virus information: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/announce.html#virus > > Mailing lists: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html > > or http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/MailingLists.html > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== > 1881 census, IGI (free): http://www.familysearch.org > 1901 census (free to search, pay to view): www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk > A2A database: http://www.a2a.org.uk > Free BMD Project: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Ordering BMD Certificates: see > http://www.statistics.gov.uk/nsbase/registration/certificates.asp > http://www.statistics.gov.uk/nsbase/registration/certe_w/fees.asp > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/07/06 > >

I have done quite a lot of research in Gt Somerford from a book by Portia HOBBS (unfortunately now out of print) and I quote- "The PYKE (mostly PYKE in GS) family like the SMITHS became possessed of a great deal of property, and like them they lived in the parish and were involved in its affairs. as far back as 1686 Frances WHEELER dau of Jasper WHEELER who had been lessee of Culverhouse (now called Mills Farm) since 1673 marr John PIKE of Pewsey and had that house and some thirty acres of land as her dowry. Their son Henry bequeathed it to his son John who during his lifetim bought the former Mills Farm (between Culverhouse & the river) plus Gibbons and Grove Farms at Startley as well as the the Grinfield Estate of over three hundred acres and its house by the river, now Brook Farm, where the family went to live. Four daus of this generation lived to marry but of Johns's own ten children only a boy Thomas survived to inherit the family estate in 1778.........Henry was a trustee of the St Mary Lands and John was twice Churchwarden,. Both of them married members of the SEALEY family as did Johns sister Winifred" Other PYKE marriages were connected to HEATH; very distantly to PARSLOEs. This may all be useless to you but some grain may make sense to you. My husband is a PARSLOE Desc. regards daphne guthrie of Papatoetoe NZ. daphne.guthrie@xtra.co.nz Researching areas: Medway, Kent;Wiltshire;Hampshire:Dorset; Sussex;Essex & Norfolk England. Fyfe Scotland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike W" <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WIL] PIKE//PORTER > Hello Patsy. > > Thank you. I never thought of PYKE!! Will look a bit further into that > and > see if Henry is one of ours (PIKE) who changed his name for some reason > but > I am dubous he is connected. > > I must see if there is a marriage in Great Somerford or Startley!! Anyone > able to help please? > > Thanks again. > > Mike > > >> Hi Mike - there is a PYKE family with these names in Great Somerford in >> 1861. Children listed as born Startley. Still there in 1871 - parents > Henry >> and Charlotte. Henry PYKE may have married Charlotte PORTER 1847 > registered >> Malmesbury. >> Hope that helps. >> Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. >> >> > There are a number of PIKEs, the mother of whom had the maiden name of >> > PORTER:- John (1852); Jonas (1854); Caroline (1856); George (1859); > Fanny M >> > (1861); Lucy A (1863); Elizabeth (1866) and Kate (1868). >> > > > > ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Virus information: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/announce.html#virus > Mailing lists: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html > or http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/MailingLists.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Yes private baptisms could be due to a child being sickly, and perhaps not expected to live. Private also can mean that they were baptised outside of a normal church service. Hope this helps. regards daphne daphne.guthrie@xtra.co.nz Researching areas: Medway, Kent;Wiltshire;Hampshire:Dorset; Sussex;Essex & Norfolk England. Fyfe Scotland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philippa Garnsey" <pgar9629@bigpond.net.au> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 1:15 AM Subject: [ENG-WIL] Private Baptism >I have two infants in my family who were recorded as being privately > baptised in the parish register. This was in 1817 in Salisbury. > > I assume that this means they were baptised in their home rather than the > parish church. They were twins so could have been premature and in danger > of > dying before they could be baptised in the parish church. > > Could anyone comment on the reason for the private baptism? > > Many thanks > > Philippa Garnsey > Sydney > > > ==== ENG-WILTSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Virus information: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/announce.html#virus > Mailing lists: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_country-unk.html > or http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/MailingLists.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >