Listers who do not know which county a town is in should try the excellent freeware program ParLoc http://parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/parlocdl.html Anne > <<snip>> is this the correct list? >

Susan Moziar wrote: > The list you want is the Bristol & Somerset list. You can join by sending > an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-L-request@rootsweb.com with subscribe in > the body of the message. They are a very helpful lot. Or Someret ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com

Robin Morris wrote: > Hi, > > The genealogical trail has led me to Bath in the early 19th.c. My first > question is, is this the correct list? Bath is in Somerset.

Hi, The genealogical trail has led me to Bath in the early 19th.c. My first question is, is this the correct list? Thanks, Robin In Surrey. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.9/417 - Release Date: 11/08/2006

The list you want is the Bristol & Somerset list. You can join by sending an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-L-request@rootsweb.com with subscribe in the body of the message. They are a very helpful lot. SM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Morris" <rm@pgen.net> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:53 AM Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Bath - correct list? : Hi, : : The genealogical trail has led me to Bath in the early 19th.c. My first : question is, is this the correct list? : : Thanks, : Robin : In Surrey. : : -- : Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. : Checked by AVG Free Edition. : Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.9/417 - Release Date: : 11/08/2006 : : : ------------------------------- : To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone, Would love to hear from anyone who may be able to expand on a George Pankhurst, who was born abt 1839 in Newton Long Wiltshire. I believe George's wife was a Mary Ann ?, who was born abt 1838 in Huntingdonshire. Anything at all about these people, would be most appreciated. Kind Regards, Wayne

I find this "marrying cousins" topic quite interesting, in 1943, my brother and a first cousin fell in love and wanted to marry, but after a family pw-wow, and concerns that the children of this union would be effected mentally, they decided not to marry as they both loved and wanted children. The sad part of this tale, is, they both married someone else, and nither my brother, or, my cousin were blessed with an off-spring. Phyllis from Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda" <rhondam@loadednet.com.au> To: <eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] was small, now Jefferys > Just interested to read the Jefferys cousins marrying cousins. Was this a > commonplace occurance in Wiltshire? > I ask because here in South Australia my great grandparents were first > cousins who married. They were from round > Broad Blunston (? - sorry if I have spelt it wrong)/ Highworth area. In this > case it split the families, and the paternal side > moved and never spoke to the maternal side again. > Cheers Rhonda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.5/451 - Release Date: 19/09/06 > >

Just interested to read the Jefferys cousins marrying cousins. Was this a commonplace occurance in Wiltshire? I ask because here in South Australia my great grandparents were first cousins who married. They were from round Broad Blunston (? - sorry if I have spelt it wrong)/ Highworth area. In this case it split the families, and the paternal side moved and never spoke to the maternal side again. Cheers Rhonda

Hello Rhonda What a shame that the marriage of cousins in your family caused problems. In my case, the one I proved this week was actually the fourth marriage between cousins of my great grandfather's generation. I think such marriages were frequent events in rural areas because people didn't move around outside their own villages and were restricted to the social connections they made through their families, their work - which was local - or the local church congregation. In my case the Jefferys family were farmers and so they probably had horses and carts to get to the livestock and produce markets but agricultural labourers would have been restricted to social connections within walking distance, including family members. The other point is that two local but different families often had inter-marriages. I know of three different marriages between the Jefferys and the Stiles. All very confusing. Susan Rhonda <rhondam@loadednet.com.au> wrote: Just interested to read the Jefferys cousins marrying cousins. Was this a commonplace occurance in Wiltshire? I ask because here in South Australia my great grandparents were first cousins who married. They were from round Broad Blunston (? - sorry if I have spelt it wrong)/ Highworth area. In this case it split the families, and the paternal side moved and never spoke to the maternal side again. Cheers Rhonda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marrying cousins was not just for people with a restricted social circle like the poor old ag labs. It was also quite common for royal families to "keep it in the family", often for political reasons. Bob -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of susan morris Sent: September 20, 2006 6:18 AM To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] was small, now Jefferys Hello Rhonda What a shame that the marriage of cousins in your family caused problems. In my case, the one I proved this week was actually the fourth marriage between cousins of my great grandfather's generation. I think such marriages were frequent events in rural areas because people didn't move around outside their own villages and were restricted to the social connections they made through their families, their work - which was local - or the local church congregation. In my case the Jefferys family were farmers and so they probably had horses and carts to get to the livestock and produce markets but agricultural labourers would have been restricted to social connections within walking distance, including family members. The other point is that two local but different families often had inter-marriages. I know of three different marriages between the Jefferys and the Stiles. All very confusing. Susan Rhonda <rhondam@loadednet.com.au> wrote: Just interested to read the Jefferys cousins marrying cousins. Was this a commonplace occurance in Wiltshire? I ask because here in South Australia my great grandparents were first cousins who married. They were from round Broad Blunston (? - sorry if I have spelt it wrong)/ Highworth area. In this case it split the families, and the paternal side moved and never spoke to the maternal side again. Cheers Rhonda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cousin marriages were common everywhere in the past - not just Wiltshire. Anne Rhonda wrote: > Just interested to read the Jefferys cousins marrying cousins. Was this a > commonplace occurance in Wiltshire? > I ask because here in South Australia my great grandparents were first > cousins who married. They were from round > Broad Blunston (? - sorry if I have spelt it wrong)/ Highworth area. In this > case it split the families, and the paternal side > moved and never spoke to the maternal side again. > Cheers Rhonda

Hello all I am looking for Emma WATERS b Melksham circa 1831. I would also like to find the birth of her brother William b circa 1829 and the marriage of their parents William WATERS and Anne, I have no date or place for the latter two but hoping they might be in Melksham also. regards Tessa

Hi Bob, Many thanks for the info it's been a great help. What a wonderful day for revelations! Whilst looking back through some old hand written notes, I came across the name "Bessy" WHITE, Kington Langley. If this is the case that William's sister was known as "Bessy" then that would tie in with your info: William, son of William & Edith, born c1855 in Kington Langley, in Kington St Michael in 1861 with two sisters Eliza & Sarah. I think you have opened a door for me into this part of my COLE family, now comes the brain aching part, confirming relationships! Again, many thanks, Peter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Buckland" <bbuckland@rogers.com> To: <eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com>; "Eng-Wiltshire" <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] COLE -WHITE Kington Langley > Hi Peter, > > There are a number of William Coles born in the mid 1850's in this area. > > William, son of James & Sarah, born c1854 in Kinton Langley, in Bremhill > in > 1861 with a sister Alice. > > William, son of William & Edith, born c1855 in Kington Langley, in Kington > St Michael in 1861 with two sisters Eliza & Sarah. > > William, son of William & Ann, born c1858 in Kington Langley, in Kington > St > Michael in 1861 with two sisters Mary Ann & Sarah Jane. > > William, son of William & Sarah, born c1853 in Kington Langley, in Kington > St Michael in 1861 with sisters Jane & Sarah. > > Good luck sorting out which, if any, is yours. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Peter Collins > Sent: September 19, 2006 5:38 AM > To: Eng-Wiltshire > Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] COLE -WHITE Kington Langley > > > Hi > > I have just discovered that my Great Grandfather William COLE (1855) > Kington > Langley Area? had a sister. > > I do not have a name for her at this time, but have found out that she > married a farming family in Kington Langley named WHITE. > > Can anyone tell me anything about this family or marriage as I am still > trying to trace my Great Grandfather's family, but they seem to be > extremely > elusive. > > Thank You. > > Peter > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Dot re: http://www.a2a.org.uk I've looked at the site before but you inspired me to look again last night - of course, I should have been in bed - but ... I did a global search and found my grandfather, the only one of the Jefferys Wiltshire farming family to live abroad, on the passenger list returning by ship from India in both 1949 and 1950. And I searched on my grandmother's family and found several of them returning by ship from India around 1950. I'm now about to ring my aunt and ask who her aunt Edith and cousin Amy were and why haven't I heard of them before. Bet she won't know either. So two queries raised last night but two other answers confirmed this morning with the marriage certificates received from the ONS. My great grandfather Thomas King Jefferys' wife, Elizabeth Haines, was his cousin, as I'd thought. Another cousin Martha Pickett Jefferys had married her cousin, but not the one which current members of the family thought. The census had pointed me in another direction and I was right. She married Stiles Edward Jefferys. Stiles Edward Jefferys was the son of Edward Jefferys of Hill Deverill Farm. He was born at Maiden Bradley. He and his brother Samuel were the sons of Stiles Jefferys, 1761 - 1824, who farmed at Maiden Bradley. Stiles was the son of Edward Jefferys of Bremhill and Amie Stiles of Hilmarton. Edward had a brother William. I'd like to hear from any one researching all these Jefferys, especially anyone following William's line. With the same first and second names being used over and over again in the same and connecting generations plus the marriages of cousins in large families there must have been much scope for confusion and mis-understandings. I wonder what it was like at the family parties. Life is very confusing for the poor family historian but the eureka moments are good. Susan Dot Gulliver <gulliver@gotadsl.co.uk> wrote: Hi Wendy That's good news. It's worth going back to the site occasionally as more documents are being indexed all the time. Also, try running a search on the place where they lived as you will occasionally find documents where their name has the wrong spelling. Dot On 18/9/06 23:13, "Chris Butcher" wrote: > Hi Dot, I would like to thankyou so much for giving me such an interesting > site to browse through, it is a site all should look at to see if there > ancestors are there, My Thomas Moody was. > Thanyou for your help. Wendy from down under. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dot Gulliver" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:56 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] re small > > >> Hello Wendy >> >> You could try the website http://www.a2a.org.uk/ to see if there are >> any documents relating to your family. >> >> As SMALL is a fairly common name I suggest that on the search page you go >> to the section 'Location of Archives' and select 'Wiltshire and Swindon >> Record Office' near the bottom of the list. This will narrow the field to >> documents held in Wiltshire >> >> Good luck with your search >> >> Dot >> In Salisbury, Wilts >> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have just discovered that my Great Grandfather William COLE (1855) Kington Langley Area? had a sister. I do not have a name for her at this time, but have found out that she married a farming family in Kington Langley named WHITE. Can anyone tell me anything about this family or marriage as I am still trying to trace my Great Grandfather's family, but they seem to be extremely elusive. Thank You. Peter

Correction: James and Sarah should be James & Mary. -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Bob Buckland Sent: September 19, 2006 7:04 AM To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com; Eng-Wiltshire Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] COLE -WHITE Kington Langley Hi Peter, There are a number of William Coles born in the mid 1850's in this area. William, son of James & Sarah, born c1854 in Kinton Langley, in Bremhill in 1861 with a sister Alice. William, son of William & Edith, born c1855 in Kington Langley, in Kington St Michael in 1861 with two sisters Eliza & Sarah. William, son of William & Ann, born c1858 in Kington Langley, in Kington St Michael in 1861 with two sisters Mary Ann & Sarah Jane. William, son of William & Sarah, born c1853 in Kington Langley, in Kington St Michael in 1861 with sisters Jane & Sarah. Good luck sorting out which, if any, is yours. Bob -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Peter Collins Sent: September 19, 2006 5:38 AM To: Eng-Wiltshire Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] COLE -WHITE Kington Langley Hi I have just discovered that my Great Grandfather William COLE (1855) Kington Langley Area? had a sister. I do not have a name for her at this time, but have found out that she married a farming family in Kington Langley named WHITE. Can anyone tell me anything about this family or marriage as I am still trying to trace my Great Grandfather's family, but they seem to be extremely elusive. Thank You. Peter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dot, I would like to thankyou so much for giving me such an interesting site to browse through, it is a site all should look at to see if there ancestors are there, My Thomas Moody was. Thanyou for your help. Wendy from down under. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dot Gulliver" <gulliver@gotadsl.co.uk> To: <eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] re small > Hello Wendy > > You could try the website http://www.a2a.org.uk/ to see if there are > any documents relating to your family. > > As SMALL is a fairly common name I suggest that on the search page you go > to the section 'Location of Archives' and select 'Wiltshire and Swindon > Record Office' near the bottom of the list. This will narrow the field to > documents held in Wiltshire > > Good luck with your search > > Dot > In Salisbury, Wilts > > >> Hi List, >> I was wondering about wills, I have a William Small who died 29.06.1833 >> is >> there a kind person to look up and see if this guy left a will. he died >> in >> Shrewton . >> >> Also a Benjamin Moody who died in Heytesbury on the 22.10.1851 >> >> Also if there is anyone researching Priscilla Munday b.1755, father >> Thomas >> Munday and mother Mary Bennett. >> >> Also, John Moody and Elizabeth Huntley m. 1768 >> >> Thomas Moody and Mary Pike or Pkye m.1744 >> >> Thomas Small and Lydia Fry m.1750 in Semley. >> >> I have hit some very strong brick walls from this side of the world, >> Queensland ,Australia. >> >> Kindest Regards Wendy >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Peter, There are a number of William Coles born in the mid 1850's in this area. William, son of James & Sarah, born c1854 in Kinton Langley, in Bremhill in 1861 with a sister Alice. William, son of William & Edith, born c1855 in Kington Langley, in Kington St Michael in 1861 with two sisters Eliza & Sarah. William, son of William & Ann, born c1858 in Kington Langley, in Kington St Michael in 1861 with two sisters Mary Ann & Sarah Jane. William, son of William & Sarah, born c1853 in Kington Langley, in Kington St Michael in 1861 with sisters Jane & Sarah. Good luck sorting out which, if any, is yours. Bob -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Peter Collins Sent: September 19, 2006 5:38 AM To: Eng-Wiltshire Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] COLE -WHITE Kington Langley Hi I have just discovered that my Great Grandfather William COLE (1855) Kington Langley Area? had a sister. I do not have a name for her at this time, but have found out that she married a farming family in Kington Langley named WHITE. Can anyone tell me anything about this family or marriage as I am still trying to trace my Great Grandfather's family, but they seem to be extremely elusive. Thank You. Peter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Wendy That's good news. It's worth going back to the site occasionally as more documents are being indexed all the time. Also, try running a search on the place where they lived as you will occasionally find documents where their name has the wrong spelling. Dot On 18/9/06 23:13, "Chris Butcher" <cjbutcher@internode.on.net> wrote: > Hi Dot, I would like to thankyou so much for giving me such an interesting > site to browse through, it is a site all should look at to see if there > ancestors are there, My Thomas Moody was. > Thanyou for your help. Wendy from down under. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dot Gulliver" <gulliver@gotadsl.co.uk> > To: <eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:56 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] re small > > >> Hello Wendy >> >> You could try the website http://www.a2a.org.uk/ to see if there are >> any documents relating to your family. >> >> As SMALL is a fairly common name I suggest that on the search page you go >> to the section 'Location of Archives' and select 'Wiltshire and Swindon >> Record Office' near the bottom of the list. This will narrow the field to >> documents held in Wiltshire >> >> Good luck with your search >> >> Dot >> In Salisbury, Wilts >>

Hello Wendy You could try the website http://www.a2a.org.uk/ to see if there are any documents relating to your family. As SMALL is a fairly common name I suggest that on the search page you go to the section 'Location of Archives' and select 'Wiltshire and Swindon Record Office' near the bottom of the list. This will narrow the field to documents held in Wiltshire Good luck with your search Dot In Salisbury, Wilts > Hi List, > I was wondering about wills, I have a William Small who died 29.06.1833 is > there a kind person to look up and see if this guy left a will. he died in > Shrewton . > > Also a Benjamin Moody who died in Heytesbury on the 22.10.1851 > > Also if there is anyone researching Priscilla Munday b.1755, father Thomas > Munday and mother Mary Bennett. > > Also, John Moody and Elizabeth Huntley m. 1768 > > Thomas Moody and Mary Pike or Pkye m.1744 > > Thomas Small and Lydia Fry m.1750 in Semley. > > I have hit some very strong brick walls from this side of the world, > Queensland ,Australia. > > Kindest Regards Wendy >