Hello all, I am looking for the familes of two WINSLOW`s. Joseph WINSLOW, who in 1861 was living in Trowbridge and said to be 65 born Trowbridge. I believe he was living in Ealing, West London in 1841 where he had a son, also Joseph. Stephen WINSLOW, who in 1851 was living in the Westbury area age 49, born at Bradley. I believe he was baptised at North Bradley on 26 December 1804. His parents were Thomas and Ann (WILLIS).I am looking for Thomas`s place of birth and parents. Regards, Bert Arter, Stibbard, Norfolk, England Researching ARTER, BONE, GAGE, LANGLEY, WIDOWSON and many others

Cornelius Whitebread Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Cadly, Kent, England Civil parish: Winterbourne Bassett County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Marlborough Sub-registration district: Marlborough ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 65 Household Members: Name Age Jessie Mills 60 Nancy Mills 60 Cornelius Whitebread 18 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1288; Folio: 48; Page: 10; GSU roll: 542789. ----- Original Message ----- From: <adrianp7@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 1:37 AM Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] 1861 CENSUS CORNELIUS WHITEBREAD |I have a copy of a page from the 1861 census (RG9/1283 Page 10) that includes the details of Cornelius WHITEBREAD an ag carter aged 18. He is shown as having been born in Cadly, Wilts. | | Unfortunately the headings on the page are entirely blank so I do not know where he was living at the time. Can anyone help me please with the missing information? | | Adrian | Yorkshire | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | |

snip> Occupation: Pensioner and a note about Greenwich and something I can't make out> A 'Greenwich Pensioner' had been pensioned from the Navy, just as a 'Chelsea Pensioner' had been pensioned from the Army. This fits beautifully with Samuel being in the marines, and may give another avenue for research for him. Val

I want to thank all of you who replied offering to help with my ADLAM search. This is what I know at this point: John Adlam was born about 1810 in England. He probably emigrated to Canada about 1830 and married in Ontario about 1833. His wife was Mary Jane Matthews b. c. 1816 in Ireland. They had 10 children between 1834 and 1858, all born in varying counties in Ontario. John died 13 Aug 1878 in Brussels, Huron Co., Ontario. His widow moved to Michigan City, Indiana, USA, to live with her daughter. An Adlam cousin who lives in Ontario passed on a family story that says the 2 brothers, John and Robert Adlam, worked their passage over from England as carpenters for a shipping line. I have not been able to verify this, but John does list his occupation in the census as a carpenter. The name ADLAM is very rare here in North America, and most of the ADLAM's in the present day US and Canada seem to be descended from John. It appears that the ADLAM surname originated in Wiltshire and most of the present day ADLAM's in England live in Wiltshire and the surrounding counties. I was hoping that someone in this area of England would be related to the ADLAM's and would have done some research on this name. I have been at a standstill on researching John, since his first name is so common and I don't know the parish he came from. I am hoping that someday I will find his parents names and town of birth. Thank you again for your time. Sherrye Woodworth

I finally got that idea, dimily remembering Greenwich Hospital <G> and maybe the note I couldn't make out was Navy. Eliz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val Burge" <valburge@dodo.com.au> To: <eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com>; <edwinadlam@cox.net> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] 1841/1851 Census look up please WESTBURY,WILTSHIRE | | snip> Occupation: Pensioner and a note about Greenwich and something I | can't make out> | | | A 'Greenwich Pensioner' had been pensioned from the Navy, just as a 'Chelsea | Pensioner' had been pensioned from the Army. This fits beautifully with | Samuel being in the marines, and may give another avenue for research for | him. | | Val | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | |

Adrian, He was living in Winterbourne Bassett. I will send the previous image separately so you can have the full address. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: <adrianp7@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >I have a copy of a page from the 1861 census (RG9/1283 Page 10) that >includes the details of Cornelius WHITEBREAD an ag carter aged 18. He is >shown as having been born in Cadly, Wilts. > > Unfortunately the headings on the page are entirely blank so I do not know > where he was living at the time. Can anyone help me please with the > missing information? >

I would just like to thank those who have emailed me with information with regards to COLE - WHITE - GRANDSMORE/GRANSMORE. To Bob, Pav and Rod you are all an invaluable source of help and inspiration. Thank you so much. Peter

Thanks Adrian, I assume that there must have been cottages or something (in a very small hamlet?) on the road that they were refering to as I've found others in the same area (Calne Without) who were also born in Labour in Vain. (I think the name's quite funny when associated with childbirth, although it would have been no joke in those days.) Unfortunately I can't find anything on the 1899 map apart from the road itself that carries that name. Thanks again to Adrian & Dave, Bob -----Original Message----- From: adrianp7@tiscali.co.uk [mailto:adrianp7@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: October 2, 2006 12:14 AM To: sacbob@yahoo.com; eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] "Labour in vain" Hello Bob Labour in Vain Hill is on the A4 near Cherhill which is to the east of Calne. Adrian Yorkshire ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Buckland To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 8:10 PM Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] "Labour in vain" Hi, In the 1901 census I have found a family in Calne Without whose children all have the birthplace "labour in vain". Would anyone have any idea if this is a real place (maybe a farm or the name of the workhouse?) or if it was a special notation that meant something to the enumerators. Thanks for any guidance on this one. Bob ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 29/09/2006

I have a copy of a page from the 1861 census (RG9/1283 Page 10) that includes the details of Cornelius WHITEBREAD an ag carter aged 18. He is shown as having been born in Cadly, Wilts. Unfortunately the headings on the page are entirely blank so I do not know where he was living at the time. Can anyone help me please with the missing information? Adrian Yorkshire

Hello Bob Labour in Vain Hill is on the A4 near Cherhill which is to the east of Calne. Adrian Yorkshire ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Buckland To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 8:10 PM Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] "Labour in vain" Hi, In the 1901 census I have found a family in Calne Without whose children all have the birthplace "labour in vain". Would anyone have any idea if this is a real place (maybe a farm or the name of the workhouse?) or if it was a special notation that meant something to the enumerators. Thanks for any guidance on this one. Bob ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 29/09/2006

You didn't ask for 1871 but since you said you knew little or nothing of them and if this is your family there is the 1891 and 1901 Eliz Name: Samuel Adlam Age: 66 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Pichel Port Collage, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Horningsham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Greenwich pensioner and occupies 16 acres of land Condition as to marriage: Married Disability: View image Registration district: Warminster Sub-registration district: Longbridge Deverill ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Adlam 23 Wheelwright Martha Adlam 57 Samuel Adlam 66 Martha Adlam Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Samuel Gender: Female Where born: Horningsham, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Horningsham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Navy pensioner Condition as to marriage: married Disability: Registration district: Warminster Sub-registration district: Longbridge Deverill ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 24 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1935; Folio: 64; Page: 5; GSU roll: 830876. Samuel Adlam Age: 87 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where Born: Horningsham, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Horningsham Ecclesiastical parish: Horningsham Town: Horningsham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 29 Newbury Occupation: Navy Pensioner Condition as to marriage: married Education: Employment status: Registration district: Warminster Sub registration district: Longbridge Deverill ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Samuel Adlam 87 Name: Martha Adlam married and head of house Age: 78 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where Born: Horningsham, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Horningsham Ecclesiastical parish: Horningsham Town: Horningsham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Edwin Adlam Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Son Mother's name: Martha Gender: Male Where Born: Horningsham, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Horningsham Ecclesiastical parish: Horningsham Town: Horningsham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 23 Newbury Occupation: Farmers son Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Warminster Sub registration district: Longbridge Deverill ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edwin Adlam 42 Martha Adlam 78 Edwin Adlam Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Horningsham, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Horningsham Ecclesiastical parish: Horningsham St John Town: Horningsham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 8 ?Hilcomb Bottom? Occupation: Condition as to marriage: single Education: Employment status: on own account View image Registration district: Warminster Sub-registration district: Longbridge Deverill ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Adlam 53 ----- Original Message ----- From: <edwinadlam@cox.net> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] 1841/1851 Census look up please WESTBURY,WILTSHIRE | This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. | | Classification: Query | | Message Board URL: | | http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EUC.2ACI/2902.1.2 | | Message Board Post: | | I have a flag taken from China by a Samuel Adlam during the Opium War(s) in 1842. He was a member of Royal Marines, Portsmouth Division. The flag in lovely but I have been unable to really get much information about Samuel who according to this letter is 89 at the time of writing the letter but doesn't date the letter. My father was also Edwin W. Adlam, born 2 Feb 1910 in Lewes, England. My grandfather was Edwin Adlam but I have little information about him. | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | |

Hi! The two dedications which you mention (St Andrew and St Mary) confirm the fact that the place is actually Donhead, the parishes there being St Andrew and St Mary with Charlton. Best wishes Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <a41hunter@comcast.net> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 5:08 PM Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Location of Donnington, Wilts > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Langworthy, Forster, Tindal, Garland > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EUC.2ACI/3197 > > Message Board Post: > > I have genealogical information about my Forster family that indicates several births in Donnington, Wilts, in the late 1600's. The closest I have been able to come to this place name is Donnington St. Andrew and Donnington St. Mary, found in a list of Wiltshire place names with no other information given. However, an on-line search has yielded no additional information that would enable me to find the places on a map. Perhaps someone familiar with Wiltshire could give me some information that would help solve the mystery of the elusive Donnington, Wilts. Thanks. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I sent the 1851 image privately Eliz Name: Edwin Adlam Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Son Father's name: Samuel Mother's name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Horningsham, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Horningsham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Newbury (no number) Occupation: Ag lab Condition as to marriage: Name: Samuel Adlam Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Horningsham, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Horningsham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Pensioner and a note about Greenwich and something I can't make out Condition as to marriage: married View image Registration district: Warminster Sub-registration district: Longbridge Deverill ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 29 Registration district: Warminster Sub-registration district: Longbridge Deverill ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Adlam 17 Edwin Adlam 13 Martha Adlam 47 Samuel Adlam 55 Name: Edwin Adlam Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Son Father's name: Samuel Mother's name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Horningsham, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Horningsham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: Registration district: Warminster Sub-registration district: Warminster ED, institution, or vessel: 5a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 28 Name: Samuel Adlam Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Horningsham, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Horningsham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Pensioneer Greenwich and 4 acres of land Condition as to marriage: married Disability: Registration district: Warminster Sub-registration district: Warminster ED, institution, or vessel: 5a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 28 I can't find your Samuel in 1841 but I found an Adlam family in Horningsham who well take a look Martha Adlam Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786 Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Horningsham Hundred: Heytesbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Source information: HO107/1177/10 Registration district: Warminster Sub-registration district: Longbridge Deverill ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 37 Page: 10 (click to see others on page) Line number: 10 GSU Number: 464196 Edward Adlam abt 1829 Wiltshire, England Horningsham Wiltshire Martha Adlam abt 1786 Wiltshire, England Horningsham Wiltshire (lists Independant) Mary Adlam abt 1827 Wiltshire, England Horningsham Wiltshire Samuel Adlam abt 1826 Wiltshire, England Horningsham Wiltshire Frederic Trollop abt 1831 Wiltshire, England Horningsham Wiltshire ----- Original Message ----- From: <edwinadlam@cox.net> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] 1841/1851 Census look up please WESTBURY,WILTSHIRE | This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. | | Classification: Query | | Message Board URL: | | http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EUC.2ACI/2902.1.2 | | Message Board Post: | | I have a flag taken from China by a Samuel Adlam during the Opium War(s) in 1842. He was a member of Royal Marines, Portsmouth Division. The flag in lovely but I have been unable to really get much information about Samuel who according to this letter is 89 at the time of writing the letter but doesn't date the letter. My father was also Edwin W. Adlam, born 2 Feb 1910 in Lewes, England. My grandfather was Edwin Adlam but I have little information about him. | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | |

Could this be your Edwin? He sure is the son of a Samuel Eliz Edwin Adlam Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Son Father's name: Samuel Mother's name: Martha Gender: Male Where Born: Horningsham, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Horningsham County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 23 Newbury Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Agric Lab Woodman Registration district: Warminster Sub registration district: Longbridge Deverill ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edwin Adlam 34 Martha Adlam 68 wife Samuel Adlam 76 Soldier pensioner ----- Original Message ----- From: <edwinadlam@cox.net> To: <ENG-WILTSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] 1841/1851 Census look up please WESTBURY,WILTSHIRE | This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. | | Classification: Query | | Message Board URL: | | http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EUC.2ACI/2902.1.2 | | Message Board Post: | | I have a flag taken from China by a Samuel Adlam during the Opium War(s) in 1842. He was a member of Royal Marines, Portsmouth Division. The flag in lovely but I have been unable to really get much information about Samuel who according to this letter is 89 at the time of writing the letter but doesn't date the letter. My father was also Edwin W. Adlam, born 2 Feb 1910 in Lewes, England. My grandfather was Edwin Adlam but I have little information about him. | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | |

Hi Bob There is a "Labour in Vain Hill" on the Old Bath Road (A4), at the village of Cherhill near Calne. I reckon that will be it. (There may well be a farm of the same name). All the best Dave Dixon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Buckland" <bbuckland@rogers.com> To: <eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 8:10 PM Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] "Labour in vain" > Hi, > > In the 1901 census I have found a family in Calne Without whose children all > have the birthplace "labour in vain". Would anyone have any idea if this is > a real place (maybe a farm or the name of the workhouse?) or if it was a > special notation that meant something to the enumerators. > > Thanks for any guidance on this one.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/EUC.2ACI/2902.1.2 Message Board Post: I have a flag taken from China by a Samuel Adlam during the Opium War(s) in 1842. He was a member of Royal Marines, Portsmouth Division. The flag in lovely but I have been unable to really get much information about Samuel who according to this letter is 89 at the time of writing the letter but doesn't date the letter. My father was also Edwin W. Adlam, born 2 Feb 1910 in Lewes, England. My grandfather was Edwin Adlam but I have little information about him.

Hi, List members Does anyone have the records for Semington, please? I am trying to track down the burial place of my George Young who died on the 8 March 1873 aged 56 years. Born in 1817 and baptised at Keevil, George gave his place of residence on his two marriages as Semington. He married first at Steeple Ashton, then his second marriage to a Jane Rutt was by licence at the Church in the Chapelry of Semington on 3 January 1863. This seems a bit odd as George was a Corn Merchant and lived at Roundstone Street in Trowbridge and his new wife Jane Rutt gave her residence as Trowbridge. Grateful for any help it may turn out that he is buried in Trowbridge in one of the churches there? All the best Heather

Thanks Dave, I'll see what I can find now I know where to look. Bob -----Original Message----- From: eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-wiltshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Dave Dixon Sent: October 1, 2006 2:31 PM To: eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] "Labour in vain" Hi Bob There is a "Labour in Vain Hill" on the Old Bath Road (A4), at the village of Cherhill near Calne. I reckon that will be it. (There may well be a farm of the same name). All the best Dave Dixon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Buckland" <bbuckland@rogers.com> To: <eng-wiltshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 8:10 PM Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] "Labour in vain" > Hi, > > In the 1901 census I have found a family in Calne Without whose children all > have the birthplace "labour in vain". Would anyone have any idea if this is > a real place (maybe a farm or the name of the workhouse?) or if it was a > special notation that meant something to the enumerators. > > Thanks for any guidance on this one. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WILTSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, In the 1901 census I have found a family in Calne Without whose children all have the birthplace "labour in vain". Would anyone have any idea if this is a real place (maybe a farm or the name of the workhouse?) or if it was a special notation that meant something to the enumerators. Thanks for any guidance on this one. Bob

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/EUC.2ACI/3197.2 Message Board Post: My guess is that there has been a transcription error and that the village is Durrington ( N of Amesbury).