Hallo Colleen, I have Maddington PRs on fiche but I can only find one entry for a Mary LONG, but born 5 October 1783. Nothing around 1790. Their was also a sister Ann. Their parents were Robert & Sarah LONG. There is no entry for a Henry LONG around 1797 either. However in neighbouring Shrewton there is this entry. Henry, son of Jn & Mary LONG, born October y 2nd and baptized y 7th, 1798. No entry for a Mary LONG in Shrewton. Henry & Jane were married at Maddington on the date you state. She was 'of this parish', he was resident in Shrewton. They both made there marks and the witnesses were, Samuel HARRIS and John LONG Terry Basting 45plus commander wrote: > Hi On one side of my family tree I have a Mary LONG who was born in Maddington c.1790 and married a William WILLIS on November 30 1815 in Urchfont. On the other side of my family I have a Henry LONG b.1797 in Maddington who married a Jane Ingham on December 25 1822, not too sure where. Now what I would love to know is are these two related, brother/sister, cousins or coincidences? > cheers > colleen > > > Make the switch to the world's best email. Get Yahoo!7 Mail! http://au.yahoo.com/y7mail > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.1/1686 - Release Date: 23/09/2008 07:38 >

Hi On one side of my family tree I have a Mary LONG who was born in Maddington c.1790 and married a William WILLIS on November 30 1815 in Urchfont.  On the other side of my family I have a Henry LONG b.1797 in Maddington who married a Jane Ingham on December 25 1822, not too sure where.  Now what I would love to know is are these two related, brother/sister, cousins or coincidences? cheers colleen Make the switch to the world's best email. Get Yahoo!7 Mail! http://au.yahoo.com/y7mail

Hi Rob and everyone who replied to my query Rob - I have kept all those details , one of them must be my Harold . As he married November 1922 saying he was 21 he could or could not be on the 1901 census . So the search continues .... Thanks again for all your comments and help . Valerie

Hi Jill Thank you for your reply and interesting explanation of Kenelm . Yes Emma was a Shutler (not Shutter) and she was married to Alfred . Thank you again regards Valerie

Hello Valerie, If you Google "Kenelm" you will find out all about him. Go to www.google.co.uk type Kenelm in box and hit "search". Kind Regards, Bert Arter, Norfolk, England Researching ARTER, BIRD, BONE, GAGE, GAGEN, JAY, LANGLEY, WIDOWSON and many others ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill and Peter Harvey To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] HARDY Birth where ? poss 1901 also name Kenelm [email protected] wrote: >Also has anyone come across the name Kenelm where does it come from . > >Many thanks Valerie >

[email protected] wrote: >My Alice Emma Gray married a Alfred Kenelm ENGLAND in 1915 , she then >divorced him sometime between then and 1922 because in 1922 she married Harold >Hardy . I do not want any details on Alice or Alfred but would like to know if >possible where Harold came from > >On the marriage certificate 7/11/1922 at Amesbury Harold is listed as 21 >years old and he is a driver at Bulford Camp so I guess he could have come from >anywhere !!!! His father was George Hardy , its a long shot but does anyone >have the 1901 census to see if there is a Harold maybe just born with a dad >George . > >Also has anyone come across the name Kenelm where does it come from . > >Many thanks Valerie > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1682 - Release Date: 20/09/2008 10:24 > > > Hi St Kenelm was a prince of Mercia (Saxon kingdom in the midlands)supposedly killed by order of his sister. He had a shrine at Winchcombe in Gloucestershire, and there is a church called St Kenelm's in Romsley Worcestershire with a spring which is supposed to flow from the site where his body was discovered. His feast day is July 17th. GRO Birth index registered Alfred's s birth at Chard in Mar 1890 Vol 5c page 403 In the 1891 census he is living in High Street, Merriot, Chard Father Alfred 31 grocer Mother Emma 31 other children: Eveline Bertha 6, Florence M Shutter 5, Lilian Rosa 3 All were born in Merriot Also, next door were a Shutter family - related? RG 12/1894 folio152 page 21 Hope this helps Jill

Hi Valerie, I have found two on the 1901 Census with fathers George but they were born in 1900 as they are shown as 1 year old, also found 10 births on free bmd covering your time span. results below Name: Harold Hardy Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Susan Gender: Male Where born: Fulham Civil Parish: Fulham Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Fulham Sub registration district: North West Fulham ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 311 Household Members: Name Age Ethel Hardy 8 George Hardy 39 George Hardy 7 Harold Hardy 1 Herbert Hardy 4 Susan Hardy 30 Name: Harold Hardy Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation: Son Father's Name: George E Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Bolton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Bolton Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Bolton Sub registration district: Little Bolton ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 227 Household Members: Name Age Bertha Hardy 5 Florence Hardy 11 George E Hardy 38 George E Hardy 3 Harold Hardy 1 Hilda Hardy 16 James Hardy 18 Jane Hardy 39 Martha Hardy 9 William L Hardy 7 Births Dec 1900 Hardy Harold Barton I. 8c 631 Hardy Harold Oldham 8d 694 Hardy Harold Edgar Ashby Z. 7a 106 Births Mar 1901 Hardy Harold Baden Prestwich 8d 336 Births Jun 1901 Hardy Harold Auckland 10a 258 Hardy Harold Halifax 9a 403 Births Sep 1901 HARDY Harold Lincoln 7a 511 HARDY Harold Newark 7b 494 HARDY Harold Windsor 2c 429 Births Dec 1901 HARDY Harold Charles W. Ham 4a 394 Also the name Kenelm has been used for a christian name for many years, there is a Saint Kenelm, I can recall a famous Kenelm Digby. Kenelm means Keen Helmet and comes from Old English,Hope this helps Rob Kenchington > From: [email protected]> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 06:41:42 -0400> To: [email protected]> Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] HARDY Birth where ? poss 1901 also name Kenelm> > My Alice Emma Gray married a Alfred Kenelm ENGLAND in 1915 , she then > divorced him sometime between then and 1922 because in 1922 she married Harold > Hardy . I do not want any details on Alice or Alfred but would like to know if > possible where Harold came from > > On the marriage certificate 7/11/1922 at Amesbury Harold is listed as 21 > years old and he is a driver at Bulford Camp so I guess he could have come from > anywhere !!!! His father was George Hardy , its a long shot but does anyone > have the 1901 census to see if there is a Harold maybe just born with a dad > George .> > Also has anyone come across the name Kenelm where does it come from .> > Many thanks Valerie> > > > > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Discover Bird's Eye View now with Multimap from Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354026/direct/01/

My Alice Emma Gray married a Alfred Kenelm ENGLAND in 1915 , she then divorced him sometime between then and 1922 because in 1922 she married Harold Hardy . I do not want any details on Alice or Alfred but would like to know if possible where Harold came from On the marriage certificate 7/11/1922 at Amesbury Harold is listed as 21 years old and he is a driver at Bulford Camp so I guess he could have come from anywhere !!!! His father was George Hardy , its a long shot but does anyone have the 1901 census to see if there is a Harold maybe just born with a dad George . Also has anyone come across the name Kenelm where does it come from . Many thanks Valerie

So sorry. I forget to put the year of Edith's probable death. It was 1st Q 1950 Rachel Fletcher

Dear List, A cousin of mine recently went to a talk in Swindon about the suffragette movement.At the end of the talk the speaker's wife came in dressed as a suffragette & he said, "This is Swindon's famous suffragette Edith Bessie NEW." My cousin was amazed as Edith is on our NEW tree & we didn't know she was famous.The last info we had was the 1901 Census when she was a Board School Teacher in Swindon. We are connected to this branch of the NEW family through Edith's mother Isabella FRAMPTON. My gt grandmother Martha NOAD nee FRAMPTON was Isabella's aunt. Isabella married Frederick James NEW 3rdQ 1872 but she was a widow by 1881 as Frederick was killed on the railway line. We are also connected to Frederick NEW's older brother Joseph through marriage into our NOAD & TARRANT families. I googled Edith Bessie NEW & found a lovely lot of info about her & also a photograph.I have looked for her death & this may be her as the age fits. NEW Edith B aged 73 Liskeard 7a 105 If anyone is researching the Swindon NEW family I hope you will get in touch. I will also be pleased to hear from anyone interested in the Suffragette Movement. Rachel Fletcher Chichester W.Sussex

Hello Jo, My notes show Elizabeth (Betsey) Bartlett was born 1843 in Compton, Enford, Wiltshire the 5th and last child of John BARTLET and Sarah RAWLINS. She was christened 26 Jul 1843 in Enford, Wiltshire. Siblings; William ch. 14 Oct 1832, Maria ch. 28 Dec 1834, William ch. 1 Mar 1838, Stephen ch. 14 Jan 1840 (All in Enford) Parents; John Bartlet ch.11 Feb 1810 in Enford and Sarah Rawlins ch. 29 Sep 1811 in Enford. Hope this helps, Brian Taylor ----- Original Message ----- >I have found the marriage of James Hams and Betsey Bartlett in 1868 and >think Betsey' s father was called James but can't seem to find him or a >wife in any census. Betsey was born abt 1849 in Enford. >

I have found the marriage of James Hams and Betsey Bartlett in 1868 and think Betsey' s father was called James but can't seem to find him or a wife in any census. Betsey was born abt 1849 in Enford.

Colleen, These are the two possibilities on the CD I have. Judy WILLIS, William Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 17 Oct 1819 Recorded in: Urchfont, Wiltshire, England Father: William Willis Mother: Mary Source: FHL Film 1279346 Dates: 1657 - 1906 WILLIS, William Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 15 Apr 1821 Recorded in: Urchfont, Wiltshire, England Father: William Willis Mother: Mary Source: FHL Film 1279346 Dates: 1657 - 1906 In a message dated 09/08/08 23:05:25 Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi I am desperately trying all avenues trying to find the parents and other family members of a William WILLIS born sometime around 1817. His mother's name was MARY well that is what is stated on his death certificate. William was a convict and had his trial in Salisbury threfore I am assuming that this is the area in which he was born. If anyone can help it would be wonderful. Cheers Colleen NUMBER = 1572 NAME = William Willis AGE = 14 OFFENCE = Stg Bacon CONVICTED: WHERE = New Sarum WHEN = 3rd March 1832 SENTENCE = 7yrs Make the switch to the world's best email. Get Yahoo!7 Mail! http://au.yahoo.com/y7mail ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would some kind soul please help me fill out the life details and descendants of my LAWRENCE lateral, Richard LAWRENCE. Here is all that I know or surmise about him. Facts: Richard LAWRENCE, son of Richard and Ann Lawrence, born in Goatacre, was baptized in Hilmarton, Wilts, on November 27th., 1774. Surmises: [The following events and descendants may just refer to a different Richard Lawrence] An I.G.I. submitted statement reports the marriage, in Lyneham parish, on June 23rd., 1803, of Richard LAWRENCE and Sarah TUCKER - this marriage is NOT recorded in the Lyneham BT film. This Richard farmed in Preston, in the parish of Lyneham, where he was a yeoman. Richard Lawrence of Preston, aged 73 years, was buried in Lyneham on February 15th., 1840; the will of Richard Lawrence, gentleman of Lyneham (National Archives) was prepared in 1825 and proved on May 2nd., 1840 (prob 11 / 1927); Richard and Sarah had issue. Best wishes. Peter Ferreira Toronto, Canada

Hi I am desperately trying all avenues trying to find the parents and other family members of a William WILLIS born sometime around 1817.  His mother's name was MARY well that is what is stated on his death certificate.  William was a convict and had his trial in Salisbury threfore I am assuming that this is the area in which he was born.  If anyone can help it would be wonderful. Cheers Colleen NUMBER = 1572 NAME = William Willis AGE = 14 OFFENCE = Stg Bacon CONVICTED: WHERE = New Sarum WHEN = 3rd March 1832 SENTENCE = 7yrs Make the switch to the world's best email. Get Yahoo!7 Mail! http://au.yahoo.com/y7mail

Just come back to Wiltshire as I am doing a bit more on my Gray family . May Gray born 1903 at Semley , she married a Herbert Hughes in 1924 , I would like to know what happened to her and where Herbert came from as he does not seem to be a local lad . Also Daisy Gray born 1888 Semley and married 1911 who did she marry because there is only one poss on BMD and not sure that is the one , Daisy did go off to Canada with her stepsister Elizabeth (Dolly) . Annie(Nan) Gray married a Harry Fairman 1919 had 3 children but again I do not know where Harry came from as there are no possibles Wiltshire . Any takers please would love to hear from you . Regards Valerie

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Hello Judy, Thanks for looking but that Joseph`s parents, John and Rachel did not marry until 1800. This is going to be a long slog as there were no less than five churches or chapels in Trowbridge around 1800. Kind Regards, Bert Arter, Norfolk, England Researching ARTER, BIRD, BONE, GAGE, GAGEN, JAY, LANGLEY, WIDOWSON and many others ----- Original Message ----- From: Needavaca02 To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Joseph WINSLOW 1790 Trowbridge

Hi All   Would anybody have access to St. Martin, Salisbury parish records.   I have found some entries on the IGI but I an trying to find out if any occupation is listed for the father.   James GODDARD   born 21/1/1823 Gigant Street, Salisbury, Wiltshire and  christened 4/9/1825 St. Martin, Salisbury, Wiltshire, his father on the IGI is stated as Maurica GODDARD and mother Jane.  (I think the fathers name is Maurice/Morris GODDARD)   On James GODDARD's marriage certificate it states the father occupation as Brewer and I have found out that there was a brewery in Gigant Street.   The IGI also gives Caroline GODDARD  Born Gigant Street, Salisbury, Wiltshire and  christened 29/7/1821 St. Martin, Salisbury, Wiltshire, her father on the IGI is stated as Maurice GODDARD and mother Jane.    Eliza GODDARD  Born Gigant Street, Salisbury, Wiltshire and  christened 30/5/1819 St. Martin, Salisbury, Wiltshire, her father on the IGI is stated as Maurice GODDARD and mother Jane   Herbert GODDARD   born 7/8/1816 Gigant ?? Scotland and  christened 30/5/1819 St. Martin, Salisbury, Wiltshire, his father on the IGI is stated as Maurice GODDARD and mother Jane.    I would like to find a death for Maurice/Morris GODDARD which I think was before 1841 as I cannot find him in the census     thank you Mike

Hello, Does anyone have information on or access to the Trowbridge parish registers to lookup the baptism of Joseph WINSLOW who in the 1851 and 1861 censuses was said to have been born 1790 in Trowbridge. Any help will be appreciated. Kind Regards, Bert Arter, Norfolk, England Researching ARTER, BIRD, BONE, GAGE, GAGEN, JAY, LANGLEY, WIDOWSON, WINSLOW and many others