Is anyone able to tell me anything about Sarah HATHERSALL who married John PIKE in Malmesbury on 19th April 1775. Thanks Mike in Whakatane NZ

Humphrey Chivers born about 1740; a likely culprit was seen fleetingly, born Wiltshire, then lost,darn it! He died 17 january 1830 Hampshire aged 90 and His daughter Phoebe my Great Grandmother died Tooting aged 80,, jpsi

Hello Eliz It is certain that the marriage between Robert PRIOR and Mary PIKE took place and the eldest son was born after a 4 month gestation!! I have a copy of both documents!! Robert died in 1855 and Mary in 1859. When I last looked at the census, while I still could, there was a correction of the 75 to 25 that made the whole thing look a mess. Only 1 PRIOR/PIKE marriage I know about. Mike

Hello Eliz Will hold onto it but ....... In FreeBMD There was no BROWN PRIOR marriage in the timeframe There was no William BROWN Sarah Ann ? marriage that gave a misspelt PRIOR. If the William (24) was the father he was a young breeder!! Toy boy maybe!! Mike Alma Brown 1 George A. Brown 6 Sarah A. Brown 30 Sarah A. Brown 5 William Brown 24 William Brown

Sarah Ann PRIOR was born in 1850 in Malmesbury. Her parents died before 1860 and in 1861 she was visiting a great uncle, David, in Abingdon. Her younger brother, Walter (b 1847), was living with their uncle William in Silver Street, Malmesbury. Her elder brother, John Tandy PRIOR (b 1846) is totally missing from 1851 on. Is anyone able to find a marriage for Sarah Ann and then the census for her from 1871 on, please? Is anyone able to find Walter in 1871, please? I have him from 1881 on, he was a boot & shoe maker. John, almost certainly the Tandy was 'dropped', was a seafarer and so may have "missed" every census from 1861 on. I would be grateful if anyone was able to find him in any census. Thank you Mike

Mike did they die before 1851?? or just the father, Robert? The Chelsea Pensioner, did Mary remarry? And why did someone write out her age and make her 75 and not the 25 originally written. Gosh they like keeping life interesting!! Wiltshire Death indexes for the years: 1855 Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference PRIOR Robert 70 Malmesbury West Chippenham MW/6/171 Wiltshire Death indexes for the years: 1859 SurnameForename(s)Age Sub-DistrictRegisters AtReference PRIORMary35Malmesbury WestChippenham MW/7/212<http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/certapp.php?type=deaths&data=PRIOR%7cMary%7cMalmesbury%20West%7cChippenham%7c1859%7c1859%7c%7cCM%3aMW%2f7%2f212%7cP%7c2958%7cwiltshire%7cCM%7c35&lang=> Were there two Pike girls married to Priors???? On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > Sarah Ann PRIOR was born in 1850 in Malmesbury. Her parents died before > 1860 and in 1861 she was visiting a great uncle, David, in Abingdon. Her > younger brother, Walter (b 1847), was living with their uncle William in > Silver Street, Malmesbury. Her elder brother, John Tandy PRIOR (b 1846) is > totally missing from 1851 on. > > Is anyone able to find a marriage for Sarah Ann and then the census for her > from 1871 on, please? > > Is anyone able to find Walter in 1871, please? I have him from 1881 on, he > was a boot & shoe maker. > > John, almost certainly the Tandy was 'dropped', was a seafarer and so may > have "missed" every census from 1861 on. I would be grateful if anyone was > able to find him in any census. > > Thank you > > Mike > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I gave up and tried Sar* b Malmesbury 1850 + or - 2 Eliz Name: Sarah A. Brown Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Gender: Female Where born: Malmsbury, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Maidstone County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: 144 Wheeler Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Maidstone Sub registration district: East Maidstone ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alma Brown 1 George A. Brown 6 Sarah A. Brown 30 Sarah A. Brown 5 William Brown 24 William Brown On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > Sarah Ann PRIOR was born in 1850 in Malmesbury. Her parents died before > 1860 and in 1861 she was visiting a great uncle, David, in Abingdon. Her > younger brother, Walter (b 1847), was living with their uncle William in > Silver Street, Malmesbury. Her elder brother, John Tandy PRIOR (b 1846) is > totally missing from 1851 on. > > Is anyone able to find a marriage for Sarah Ann and then the census for her > from 1871 on, please? > > Is anyone able to find Walter in 1871, please? I have him from 1881 on, he > was a boot & shoe maker. > > John, almost certainly the Tandy was 'dropped', was a seafarer and so may > have "missed" every census from 1861 on. I would be grateful if anyone was > able to find him in any census. > > Thank you > > Mike > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Julia This has nothing to do with the above subject matter. I am looking for a Julia Hunt who has researched the Lewington Family, if you are that person could you please email me offline at [email protected] Thank you Jenny Lewington

Hello Rita I have been transcribing Wilts for FreeCen for a while and when ever I get stuff from a railway town they are there. I would assume they were working on the railway cuttings and tunnels. There are a lot in the area as it is "rolling" countryside. Mike ex Wantage Berks where there are railway cuttings too I was trawling through an 1841 census website for Wiltshire and came across many heads of families and whole places where the persons occupations were given as Excavators. Curiously I wondered if anyone would know what sort of excavations they would have been involved in, in 1841 ?

----- Original Message ----- From: "rita woodcock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Excavators in Wiltshire 1841 > Hello list, > > I was trawling through an 1841 census website for Wiltshire and came > across many heads of families and whole places where the persons > occupations were given as Excavators. > > Curiously I wondered if anyone would know what sort of excavations they > would have been involved in, in 1841 ? > > Regards Rita Woodcock Norfolk UK > > The Great Western Railway was completed in 1841 so it may well be that the excavations were in that connection. Paul

Thanks Paul,   That's really interesting, I never considered anything like that.   Also bells are ringing in my head as I think somewhere in my Wiltshire ancestry there is a link to the Railways.   Food for thought.   Regards Rita     ----- Original Message ---- From: Paul Vivash <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 7 October, 2008 18:01:06 Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Excavators in Wiltshire 1841 ----- Original Message ----- From: "rita woodcock" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Excavators in Wiltshire 1841 > Hello list, > > I was trawling through an 1841 census website for Wiltshire and came > across many heads of families and whole places where the persons > occupations were given as Excavators. > > Curiously I wondered if anyone would know what sort of excavations they > would have been involved in, in 1841 ? > > Regards Rita Woodcock Norfolk UK > > The Great Western Railway was completed  in 1841 so it may well be that the excavations were in that connection. Paul ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello list, I was trawling through an 1841 census website for Wiltshire and came across many heads of  families and whole places where the persons occupations were given as Excavators. Curiously I wondered if anyone would know what sort of excavations they would have been involved in, in 1841 ? Regards Rita Woodcock Norfolk UK

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:08 AM, rita woodcock <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks Paul, > > That's really interesting, I never considered anything like that. > > Also bells are ringing in my head as I think somewhere in my Wiltshire > ancestry there is a link to the Railways. I think the Great Western was a good-sized employer in Wilts, with a large depot in Swindon and some other major junctions. My g-father worked for GWRR/BR(W) for 49 years at Bath, Thingley, and Westbury. -- Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/ <paulbeard.org>

Hello Megan I can put your mind at rest!!! The name is TANDY as it was used in the way of the days as a middle name a couple of generations later. Mike

I don't have any information on the Robert PRIOR in question, but I do have a small tree of a PRIOR family who lived at Brokenborough that might be useful to those looking for PRIORS around Malmesbury. But first some background. I got interested in PRIOR at Brokenborough because John HANDY of Rodbourne left £5 to William PRIOR of Brokenborough in his 1788 will. Eventually I discovered that that John Handy was the grandson of William PRIOR, an eccentric rector of Elkstone in Glocs. I think the William PRIOR of Brokenborough was another grandson of the rector, being the son of the rector's son John PRIOR and his wife Mary HANDY (also of the Rodbourne family). I see Daphne Guthrie has suggested that a Sarah TANDY might actually be a Sarah HANDY. An interesting idea, but I don't have a suitable Sarah in my HANDY tree. If Daphne is correct, I will be VERY interested! Here is the Brokenborough PRIOR family, in case anyone can find a link to it. The Elkstone PRIOR tree is larger so I won't include t here, but will send it to anyone who wants it. Good luck to you all Megan Thompson ----------------------- William Prior (possibly the son John PRIOR of Elkstone & Mary HANDY of Rodbourne, born 1723) b. d. May 1782 br. 15 May 1782, Brokenborough, Wilts ch. & Elizabeth b. d. Aug 1770 br. 8 Aug 1770, Brokenborough, Wilts ch. m. | Frances Prior | b. 1752 | d. | br. | ch. 9 Apr 1752, Brokenborough, Wilts | m. | Mary Prior | b. 1754 | d. | br. | ch. 29 May 1754, Brokenborough, Wilts | m. | Ann Prior | b. 1756 | d. | br. | ch. 31 Jan 1756, Brokenborough, Wilts | m. | William Prior | b. 1757 | d. Feb 1795 | br. 4 Feb 1795, Brokenborough, Wilts | ch. 26 Dec 1757, Brokenborough, Wilts | m. | John Prior | b. 1760 | d. | br. | ch. 2 Apr 1760, Brokenborough, Wilts | m. | Timothy Prior | b. 1762 | d. | br. | ch. 23 May 1762, Brokenborough, Wilts | & Elizabeth (Betty) Smith | b. | d. | br. | ch. | m. 6 Dec 1793, Charlton, Wilts | | ? Prior | | b. 1797 | | d. | | br. | | ch. 9 Jun 1797, Brokenborough, Wilts | | m. | | Eliza Prior | | b. 1800 | | d. | | br. | | ch. 29 Jun 1800, Brokenborough, Wilts | | m. | | James Prior | | b. 1804 | | d. | | br. | | ch. 15 Aug 1804, Brokenborough, Wilts | | m. | | Mary Prior | | b. 1815 | | d. | | br. | | ch. 1815, Brokenborough, Wilts | | m. | Elizabeth Prior | b. 1764 | d. Dec 1804 | br. 11 Dec 1804, Brokenborough, Wilts | ch. 12 Aug 1764, Brokenborough, Wilts | m. | James Prior | b. 1766 | d. Aug 1770 | br. 4 Aug 1770, Brokenborough, Wilts | ch. 1766, Brokenborough, Wilts | m. | ? Prior | b. 1768 | d. | br. | ch. 4 Dec 1768, Brokenborough, Wilts | m. | James Prior | b. 1770 | d. | br. | ch. 7 Oct 1770, Brokenborough, Wilts | & Sarah | b. | d. Oct 1811 | br. 10 Oct 1811, Brokenborough, Wilts | ch. | m. | | William Prior | | b. 1801 | | d. | | br. | | ch. 1801, Brokenborough, Wilts | | m. | | John Prior | | b. 1804 | | d. | | br. | | ch. 10 Jun 1804, Brokenborough, Wilts | | m. On 5/10/2008, at 10:43 AM, Mike wrote: > When Robert PRIOR (b c 1776) married Mary PIKE in Malmesbury in 1845 > the marriage certificate states that he was a widower. > > The 1851 census has him as a Chelsea Pensioner(which might be a > curse) living in Gastons Lane Malmesbury. In 1841 he is living with > Joseph & Eliz BISHOP in Church Street with no wife there. > > There is a PRIOR death in Malmesbury which might help, Mary 1838 age > 53 (b c 1775). > > My request is to see if there is a marriage Robert PRIOR to Mary > UNKNOWN in Malmesbury sometime after about 1796. > > Any help gratefully recieved. > > Thanks again > > Mike in a cool Whakatane NZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hello Again Does anyone have a connection between the name PIKE or PRIOR and the name SEAGER probably (well) before 1800? Thanks Mike

We have been in touch before about HANKS and PYKES so I was interested in the latest on Robert PRIOR and Mary PIKE. Altho PYKES are well on the fringe of my husbands ancestry couldnt help noticing Patricia's comment on a Sarah TANDY. Do you think it could be Sarah HANDY? As mentioned before there were quite a few PIKES in Gt Somerford. Just thought you may be interested. regards, daphne [email protected] Researching areas: England kent, Medway,HARDY;TRUEMAN;LANDEN;LAYZELL;MARTIN; MEXTED; WILMSHURST;Wiltshire;PARSLOE;WILLIAMS.Hampshire GUY;WILTSHIRE:Dorset RUSSELL; Sussex;MARTIN;SAVAGE;APPS;AYLING;FROGBROOK;Essex LAYZELL,BAGLEY; Norfolk MOUNSER;ABLETT England. Scotland Fyfe SMALL;JOHNSTON ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:43 AM Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Robert PRIOR marriage c 1796 > When Robert PRIOR (b c 1776) married Mary PIKE in Malmesbury in 1845 the > marriage certificate states that he was a widower. > > The 1851 census has him as a Chelsea Pensioner(which might be a curse) > living in Gastons Lane Malmesbury. In 1841 he is living with Joseph & Eliz > BISHOP in Church Street with no wife there. > > There is a PRIOR death in Malmesbury which might help, Mary 1838 age 53 (b > c 1775). > > My request is to see if there is a marriage Robert PRIOR to Mary UNKNOWN > in Malmesbury sometime after about 1796. > > Any help gratefully recieved. > > Thanks again > > Mike in a cool Whakatane NZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mike - you may have already checked this but IGI has a baptism of a David PIKE in 1816 Malmesbury with parents William and Sarah. >From IGI it seems that the Sarah above may be Sarah TANDY - marriage to a William PIKE in Malmesbury in 1807. However the 1841 census is not helpful on this as you have probably seen. On the other hand - in the 1841 census David has a Susannah PIKE in the household, aged 15 and IGI has no helpful entry for this. Susannah appears to have married Isaac Bai/yly in 1846. There is an interesting family group in Malmesbury in 1861 which may possibly tie this lot together as there is also a Walter PRIOR in the household. This grouping might suggest that William PIKE snr was married a number of times. Looks like the PRIOR family is indexed on Ancestry as PRIVE in 1851 and Mary as being aged 75 with three children under 5!! Beavingtons transcription has both the correct name and ages. Of course David's marriage certificate/s would help to clear this up. First marriage possibly registered in Wincanton in 1838? as this district covers Bruton, given as son George's birthplace on the 1851, although this appears to vary in later censuses as well. Apologies if you have all this already or if it is way offbeam. Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] David PIKE > In the 1861 census Sarah Ann PRIOR (b c 1850) is living in Abingdon as a > niece of David and Mary Ann PIKE. > > David is aged 43, and so born c 1818, and was stated as being born in > Malmesbury. > > Sarah Ann's mother was Mary PIKE (b c 1825 Malmesbury) whose parents, > William and Elizabeth were married in Malmesbury in 1824. > > It is therefore unlikely that Mary and David were siblings. > > Is anyone able to throw any light on David's birth and parents? I have > all the census information about him and his marriages and death. > > Thanks again > > Mike in a cool Whakatane NZ >

When Robert PRIOR (b c 1776) married Mary PIKE in Malmesbury in 1845 the marriage certificate states that he was a widower. The 1851 census has him as a Chelsea Pensioner(which might be a curse) living in Gastons Lane Malmesbury. In 1841 he is living with Joseph & Eliz BISHOP in Church Street with no wife there. There is a PRIOR death in Malmesbury which might help, Mary 1838 age 53 (b c 1775). My request is to see if there is a marriage Robert PRIOR to Mary UNKNOWN in Malmesbury sometime after about 1796. Any help gratefully recieved. Thanks again Mike in a cool Whakatane NZ

In the 1861 census Sarah Ann PRIOR (b c 1850) is living in Abingdon as a niece of David and Mary Ann PIKE. David is aged 43, and so born c 1818, and was stated as being born in Malmesbury. Sarah Ann's mother was Mary PIKE (b c 1825 Malmesbury) whose parents, William and Elizabeth were married in Malmesbury in 1824. It is therefore unlikely that Mary and David were siblings. Is anyone able to throw any light on David's birth and parents? I have all the census information about him and his marriages and death. Thanks again Mike in a cool Whakatane NZ