Richard, Thought I might be able to help. But I guess not sorry. Judy In a message dated 11/01/08 15:04:35 Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I do not know where Edmund was born. The only sibling I have is Mary Rolfe who was baptised on 7 Nov 1733 Berwick St James. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Needavaca02" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Edmund Rolfe > Richard, > > Do you have any siblings? Or where he was born. > > > > In a message dated 11/01/08 14:31:18 Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > Sorry Judy > > He was 23 when he got married which would give his birth year as 1707. > > I think your possibility is close but not close enough. > > Thanks anyway > > Richard > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Needavaca02" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:22 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Edmund Rolfe > > >> Richard, >> >> You didn't give a birth year. I found this possibility. >> >> Judy >> >> ROLFE, Edmund Christening >> Gender: Male >> Christening Date: 24 Jan 1696 Recorded in: Upavon, Wiltshire, England >> Father: Edward ROLFE >> Source: FHL Film 1239309 Dates: 1687 - 1875 >> >> >> >> In a message dated 11/01/08 13:45:30 Pacific Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> Hi fellow listers >> >> Edmund Rolfe married Elizabeth Powell at Berwick St James on 19 Jan 1730. >> >> I would like to find Edmund's father, any help would be appreciated. >> >> Their is a possible link to Edmund Rolfe the elder of Snoddington which I >> have not yet established. >> >> Regards >> >> Richard >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Richard, Do you have any siblings? Or where he was born. In a message dated 11/01/08 14:31:18 Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Sorry Judy He was 23 when he got married which would give his birth year as 1707. I think your possibility is close but not close enough. Thanks anyway Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Needavaca02" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Edmund Rolfe > Richard, > > You didn't give a birth year. I found this possibility. > > Judy > > ROLFE, Edmund Christening > Gender: Male > Christening Date: 24 Jan 1696 Recorded in: Upavon, Wiltshire, England > Father: Edward ROLFE > Source: FHL Film 1239309 Dates: 1687 - 1875 > > > > In a message dated 11/01/08 13:45:30 Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > Hi fellow listers > > Edmund Rolfe married Elizabeth Powell at Berwick St James on 19 Jan 1730. > > I would like to find Edmund's father, any help would be appreciated. > > Their is a possible link to Edmund Rolfe the elder of Snoddington which I > have not yet established. > > Regards > > Richard > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Richard, You didn't give a birth year. I found this possibility. Judy ROLFE, Edmund Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 24 Jan 1696 Recorded in: Upavon, Wiltshire, England Father: Edward ROLFE Source: FHL Film 1239309 Dates: 1687 - 1875 In a message dated 11/01/08 13:45:30 Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi fellow listers Edmund Rolfe married Elizabeth Powell at Berwick St James on 19 Jan 1730. I would like to find Edmund's father, any help would be appreciated. Their is a possible link to Edmund Rolfe the elder of Snoddington which I have not yet established. Regards Richard ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Me again, Just re-sent my email and it has now appeared, so it looks as if the List is working again. Myrtle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia O'Shea" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] CRICKMAY > Hi Susan - not sure if you have had a response but according to an online > tree, Edward may be the son of Charles CRICKMAY and Jane SMART whose > marriage is recorded on IGI as 1820 in Hindon, Wiltshire. Given the names > of > the children of John and Jane, John may be a brother or uncle. > > The same tree tentatively gives Edward's death as 1865, St Margarets. The > Bethnal Green death in 1862 appears to have another entry on the same > reference number - Anne Blanche CRICKMAY - not sure what this implies. > > You may have all this already - do you have your folk in other censuses? I > don't see Edward after 1841 so far and cannot find Eliza in 1861 either. > > I could not see any reference to Edward on the National Archives site but > there might be a military record there for him which is not yet mentioned > online. > > Sorry not to be more help. > Regards, Patsy - New Zealand > > Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] CRICKMAY > > >> Hi everyone, I am hoping to find info on this family. 1841 census >> Crickmay, John 35 Carpenter >> Jane 35 >> Edward 20 >> John 15 >> Eliza 15 >> James 12 >> George 10 >> Jemina 5 >> Charles 5 >> Elizabeth 4 >> William 2 >> Jane 4m >> >> I believe that Edward 20 married my gggrandmother in Lambeth, in >> 1853,Eliza Snelling. he was then a private with the Grenadier Guard and >> was wounded Nov 5, 1854 in the battle of Inkermann. He died I believe in >> 1862 in Bethnal Green. >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Listers, In 1892 2ndQ my cousin Daniel DAVIS, b.1858, re-married at Atworth to a Mary Ann MAY (ref: Bradford-on-Avon 5a/239). I have more than one possibility for Mary Ann, so I must get the marriage certificate to try to resolve the question of which one, but if SKS could look-up the 1901 census return to get Mary Ann's age, that too could resolve it. I suspect the couple were living in Corsham, or nearby, and Mary Ann would be about the same age as Daniel (43), and was probably born in Corsham, Wiltshire. Names of any children would be interest too. I suspect that Mary Ann had a child, perhaps Hubert, before the marriage so her 1891 census return would also be very informative (and rumour has it that her husband to-be, Daniel Davis, was the father, so Mary Ann just might have taken the name Davis even before her 1892 marriage). Thanks, Jenny

Hello Listers, >From an artefact of an old business card I believe my cousin Samuel DAVIS (1855-1931) was at one time the 'boss' at the Neston Glove Factory. The card is undated, but includes the telephone number Corsham 58. I was wondering whether any lister has information on this place of employment. The only real information I have is that it was originally known as "Davis, May & Co" and first appeared in Kelly's Directory in 1911; and changed name sometime between then and 1919, to The Neston Glove Factory. Regards, Jenny

Brewer - Haddrell: an interesting pairing of names, for me, because: (1) my Dad's maternal grandmother was Sarah Jane BREWER b.1858 Potterne; and (2) my Dad's paternal grandmother was Mary Jane PEGLER whose aunt Ann Pegler married Philip HADDRELL (bc.1801) at Bremhill in 1830. Jenny -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin Dorey Sent: 31 October 2008 02:45 To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Descendants of Levi BREWER (born 1858 in Calne registration district, Wiltshire) and his wife Emma BREWER née HADDRELL (born 1858 in the area of Charlcot, Calne) Importance: High Dear fellow subscribers I am trying to establish the descendants of the 9 offspring of Levi BREWER (born 1858 in Calne registration district, Wiltshire) and his wife Emma BREWER née HADDRELL (born 1858 in the area of Charlcot, Calne). The children were: - Edith M. born C. 1880 in Calne registration district. Archibald George born C. 1882 in Calne registration district. Arthur born C.1884 in Calne registration district. William born C. 1886 in Bristol registration district. Albert born C. 1889 in Bristol registration district. Lillian born C. 1891 in Bristol registration district. Elsie born 1892 in Bristol registration district. Frederick born 1894 in Bedminster, Bristol. Oliver born C. 1897 in Bristol registration district. Of the above 9 offspring, the only two for whom I have any data are Elsie and Frederick. Therefore, I shall be most grateful to know if anyone has any further information concerning the other 7 offspring and their subsequent lines. Regards Rob D. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear fellow subscribers I am trying to establish the descendants of the 9 offspring of Levi BREWER (born 1858 in Calne registration district, Wiltshire) and his wife Emma BREWER née HADDRELL (born 1858 in the area of Charlcot, Calne). The children were: - Edith M. born C. 1880 in Calne registration district. Archibald George born C. 1882 in Calne registration district. Arthur born C.1884 in Calne registration district. William born C. 1886 in Bristol registration district. Albert born C. 1889 in Bristol registration district. Lillian born C. 1891 in Bristol registration district. Elsie born 1892 in Bristol registration district. Frederick born 1894 in Bedminster, Bristol. Oliver born C. 1897 in Bristol registration district. Of the above 9 offspring, the only two for whom I have any data are Elsie and Frederick. Therefore, I shall be most grateful to know if anyone has any further information concerning the other 7 offspring and their subsequent lines. Regards Rob D.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Jenny Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Listers, > > >From an artefact of an old business card I believe my cousin Samuel DAVIS > (1855-1931) was at one time the 'boss' at the Neston Glove Factory. The > card > is undated, but includes the telephone number Corsham 58. > > I was wondering whether any lister has information on this place of > employment. The only real information I have is that it was originally > known > as "Davis, May & Co" and first appeared in Kelly's Directory in 1911; and > changed name sometime between then and 1919, to The Neston Glove Factory. > Interesting. My great aunt who grew up in Corsham was sent to work in a glover's but ran off and eventually became the postmistress for Neston. I wonder if that was the works she was supposed to toil in? -- Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/ <paulbeard.org>

Hi Susan - not sure if you have had a response but according to an online tree, Edward may be the son of Charles CRICKMAY and Jane SMART whose marriage is recorded on IGI as 1820 in Hindon, Wiltshire. Given the names of the children of John and Jane, John may be a brother or uncle. The same tree tentatively gives Edward's death as 1865, St Margarets. The Bethnal Green death in 1862 appears to have another entry on the same reference number - Anne Blanche CRICKMAY - not sure what this implies. You may have all this already - do you have your folk in other censuses? I don't see Edward after 1841 so far and cannot find Eliza in 1861 either. I could not see any reference to Edward on the National Archives site but there might be a military record there for him which is not yet mentioned online. Sorry not to be more help. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] CRICKMAY > Hi everyone, I am hoping to find info on this family. 1841 census > Crickmay, John 35 Carpenter > Jane 35 > Edward 20 > John 15 > Eliza 15 > James 12 > George 10 > Jemina 5 > Charles 5 > Elizabeth 4 > William 2 > Jane 4m > > I believe that Edward 20 married my gggrandmother in Lambeth, in > 1853,Eliza Snelling. he was then a private with the Grenadier Guard and > was wounded Nov 5, 1854 in the battle of Inkermann. He died I believe in > 1862 in Bethnal Green. > >

Hi Stanley, I have notice that I didn't thank you for the info you send me. Sorry about this oversight. I have all info noted on my notebook and I think as soon as we find the parents of Robert Wiltshire born appr. 1723 in Urchfont I will be able to use this info. Again many thanks. Henk At 02:41 PM 18/10/2008 +0100, you wrote: >Hi >re previous message i missed the following John WILTSHIRE baptisms > >26 Jul 1662 John Wiltshier son of Thomas >28 Feb 1692 John Wilshere son of John >23 Mar 1729 John Wilshire son of John and Joan > >2008/10/18 Stanley Robert Archer <[email protected]> > > > Hi > > The only John Wiltshires baptised in Urchfont per the Wiltshire FHS > > Transcriptions are as follows > > > > 1698 AUG 7 WILTSHIRE JOHN S > > THOMAS > > URCHFONT > > > > 1755 FEB 15 WILTSHIRE JOHN S ROBERT & > > ELEANOR URCHFONT > > > > 1798 JUL 19 WILTSHIRE JOHN S JNO & MARY > > 1YR URCHFONT > > > > 1807 OCT 19 WILTSHIRE JOHN S ROBERT & > > MARY URCHFONT > > > > > > 1824 JUN 13 WILTSHIRE JOHN S ISAAC & > > ELIZABETH LAB WEDHAMPTON > > > > I can see no trace of Robert WILTSHIRE father of John Wiltshire 1755 being > > baptised in Urchfont-having looked through the various spelling variations > > > > John Wiltshire b 1755 had several siblings > > > > 2008/10/18 Henk Stroet <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > >-- >Cheers-Stanley > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1732 - Release Date: 18/10/2008 >6:01 PM

I'm trying to trace GEORGE REYNOLDS born in Chippenham around 1807/08. He was a soldier in the 12th Foot regiment and was discharged in 1838. Can anyone help? Linda Shaw

Ancestry just added UK incoming passenger lists. http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=1518&sssdmh=dm13.182303&o_iid=23560&o_lid=23560 I will now be busy for weeks <VBG> Eliz

Hi everyone, I am hoping to find info on this family. 1841 census Crickmay, John 35 Carpenter Jane 35 Edward 20 John 15 Eliza 15 James 12 George 10 Jemina 5 Charles 5 Elizabeth 4 William 2 Jane 4m I believe that Edward 20 married my gggrandmother in Lambeth, in 1853,Eliza Snelling. he was then a private with the Grenadier Guard and was wounded Nov 5, 1854 in the battle of Inkermann. He died I believe in 1862 in Bethnal Green.

Hello All, I am seeking information on Elizabeth BUTT, born Mere. Wiltshire about 1765. It is believed, but not proven, that she married William CHARLTON about 1790/2 . Thanks in anticipation, Bryn

Bryn, There is a William Charlton marriage in 1792. Judy CHARLTON, William Marriage Wife: Elizabeth BUTT Marriage Date: 28 Oct 1792 Recorded in: Gillingham, Dorset, England Source: FHL Film 1279497 Dates: 1777 - 1794 In a message dated 10/25/08 14:09:35 Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hello All, I am seeking information on Elizabeth BUTT, born Mere. Wiltshire about 1765. It is believed, but not proven, that she married William CHARLTON about 1790/2 . Thanks in anticipation, Bryn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In tracing my Wiltshire ancestry, I have found a number of links with Tetbury. One such is the ESTCOURT family. According to "Richmond Family Records", vol. 2, p. 108, my forebear William RICHMOND alias WEBB of Battersea and Lydiard Millicent (Wilts) was the son of Ambrose RICHMOND als. WEBB and his wife Emma daughter of George ESTCOURT, gent., of Tetbury. The relevant documentary evidence is given: "By indenture dated 31 October 44 Eliz (1602) between William WEBB and John ESCOURTE of Tetbury and Edmund MASKELYNE of Pyrton (Purton, Wilts.) in consideration of a marriage to be had between Ambrose WEBB naturall son of the said William and Emma ESCOURTE one of the daughters of George ESCOURTE of Tetbury and of 100 marks, William WEBB granted to John and Edmund in trust meadow and pasture ground in Lyddiard Millicent (Lydiard Millicent, Wilts.) called the Hydes, of 20 acres and meadows or pasture ground called the Great or Further Lye, etc." There are several candidates in the various ESTCOURT pedigrees I have seen to be my George ESTCOURT. Judging from the date of the marriage settlement for his daughter's marriage to Ambrose in the very early part of the 17th century, it would appear that George was living at the end of the 16th century. Apparently Emma was one of several daughters, but I do not know their names, or whether she had any brothers, though one wonders if the John mentioned in the marriage settlement mightn't be one of them if her father George were already dead... My current theory posits that she may have been a daughter of a George ESTCOURT who was a churchwarden of Tetbury in 1594 according to Lee's "History of Tetbury" (p. 292, col. 2, George ESTCOURTE). Examining gleanings I have found in various sources I have constructed a possible family of origin for Emma, viz.: Johan ESTCORTE, of Westport, Wilts. widow is named in a Chancery Suit answer of 12 Feb. 1594/5 and appears in "Richmond Family Records", vol. 2, p. 55 as Johan ESTCORTE, a widow, who by an earlier marriage to John MOODY, of Westport (d. 4 Mar. 1549/50, IPM 6 Feb. 1550/1; see Visitation of Wilts., 1623, pp. 136-137, MOODIE de Westport pedigree) had a daughter Elizabeth who married Anthony RICHMOND alias WEBB of Manningford Bohim, Wilts. (who happens to have been Ambrose R als W's uncle). So sometime after the death of MOODY, Johan married an ESTCOURT (ESTCORTE) and was widowed again by 12 Feb. 1594/5, which is just in the nick of time to make it possible for her to have been the wife of George ESTCOURT churchwarden of Tetbury in 1594, though it does not prove this. In the ESCOURT pedigree in the Visitation of Glos., 1623, p. 57, a George ESTCOURT, no residence given, is said to have married "Joane daughter of ... STEEDE". Their issue is only shown as two sons: Edmond ESTCOURT who married Mary daughter of BERNARD and, perhaps significantly in regard to the marriage settlement, John ESTCOURT who married Grace daughter of LYGGON. So things seem to be hinting at the possibility that Johan former wife of John MOODY or MOODIE, of Westport, Malmesbury, and later widow of one ESTCORTE, was identical with Joane STEEDE who married George ESTCOURT. If this is the case, then it is another step to prove that the George ESCOURTE of the 1602 marriage settlement who is father of Emma is indeed the same man as the George ESTCOURT who married Joane STEEDE. The Glos. Vis. pedigree of ESTCOURT shows that this latter George ESTCOURT was the 3rd son of Edmond de la ESTCOURT and his wife Praxid [Praxed/Praxeda] daughter of William BUTTON of ... in com. Wilts. I already happen to descend from this BUTTON family [of Alton Priors, Wilts.] via my ERNLE descent, so this would be an interesting instance of further loss of ancestry through distant cousin marriage, an occurrence which was probably altogether common among the rural gentry of the 16th and 17th centuries. Any thoughts or input welcomed. Many thanks, Richard Richard Carruthers, M.A. (Oxon.) Vancouver British Columbia CANADA _________________________________________________________________

Hi Richard, Yes, I've come across the same name-changing problem ... a Mary Anne who was married as Ann and an Ellen Catherine who was born a Catherine. Kind regards, Gail

Hello All In the will (dated 1807) of my great (x4) grandfather George Baker he mentions his wife Catherine and his three children George, Charles and Catherine. The WFHS disc for Berwick St James has the baptisms for all three children. The problem is that the later lists the parents as George and Mary, not George and Catherine. My first thought was that the wife/mother was Catherine Mary or Mary Catherine. I cannot find any confirmation of this. Any thoughts from my fellow listers would be much appreciated. Richard

I too have been researching Osmans. The extract below is from my Osman Story. Generation 1 William Osman The earliest records found to date for the Osman family of Chisledon are those of William Osman who died 1737/38 and his wife Elizabeth, whose maiden name is unknown. Whether the couple were born and/or spent their childhood in Chisledon has not been established but it has been suggested that they had moved to the village by the time of the baptism of their son William in 1704, but no record of William’s baptism has been found as yet. The baptism of two other sons – James and Robert – are recorded in the parish register as having occurred respectively in 1704 and 1711. Whether any other children were been born to William and Elizabeth is not known. Two burial records for Chisledon may be those of William Osman and Elizabeth Osman. The entry for William is written up as William Snr (with the alternative surname of Oseman) for 27th February 1738. That for Elizabeth is for 21st July 1722, and carried the notation ‘w. William’. I have three sons attributed to William and Elizabeth (née) – William (who married Elizabeth Webb), James, and Robert (who married Ruth Parker). Generation 2 William Osman The information for William (Osman or Oseman) has yet to be substantiated. His wife may have been Elizabeth Webb, and if so they married on 17th February 1724 at Chisledon. There is a Chisledon burial record for a William Osman aged 84 for 27th January 1788, which fits neatly with William’s estimated date of birth. Perhaps Richard was a son of William and Elizabeth (née Webb)and a grandson of William and Elizabeth (née ?) Leonie Fretwell [email protected] Burra, South Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stanley Robert Archer Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2008 3:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-WILTSHIRE] Re Osman/Wooseman Family of Chiseldon Nr SwindonWilts Hi Listers I have recently started on a Family tree for the Osmans of Chiseldon A Richard Osman was baptized on 15 Mar 1738/9 at Chiseldon I have seen his birth accredited to John OSMAN [b1715-1794] & Martha ARMAN [b 1713-1797] and to William OSMAN [b 1704-1788] & Elizabeth WEBB [b 1703-1780] I have referred to the Wiltshire FHS Transcription Disc and find 1738/9 Mar 15 Oseman Richard s John & Martha @ Chiseldon 1738/9 Mar 15 Oseman Richard s William & Elizabeth @ Chiseldon Does anyone know which is correct please- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message