Saturday 14 Jun 1845 (p. 3, col. 5-6) Part 2 THIRD EDITION. ----- Journal Office, Friday Evening, Six o'Clock. ----- EXAMINATION OF WITNESSES RESUMED. [continued] Mary ELLIOT re-called. CORONER-Since you were before us we have received some more information as to the proceedings in your house. I caution you to tell the truth. Witness-I will tell you the truth as far as I know. The CORONER read over the evidence of the witness taken before she was given into custody for refusing to answer his question. CORONER-If it has been sworn that Mr. GRAHAM and Miss RICKERBY were in the habit of spending their evenings in your house more than his own, the party has been swearing to an untruth, has he? I mean from last harvest to Martinmas. Witness-They were never in the house together-at nights you know. CORONER-But I am not speaking of nights. Were they together? Witness-When she came in he went out. CORONER-Did they spend their evenings at your house together more than at his own? Witness-If I could answer you I would. Did they not spend one evening in the week, on the average, at your house?-She was there, but he was not. CORONER-As it is probable that there will be further proceedings in your case, I will take down my questions and your answers. Witness-If I could I would. CORONER-Now, wait. (He repeated the question.) Witness-Together? CORONER-In your house? Witness-No, they did not. Were they ever at your house, in the same room, and at the same time?-Never but when she was sewing. CORONER-Say ay, or no. (He repeated the question.) Witness-No, not in my recollection. CORONER-I shall have no recollection, here; I shall not allow you any such loophole. I insist on an answer, and if you refuse I will commit you. Witness-You must tell me how you mean. CORONER-Were they ever in your house, in the same room, together between last harvest and Martinmas. Witness-No, not together. CORONER-You appear to attach a meaning to together which I don't understand. (He repeated the question.) Witness-Yes. CORONER-How often? Witness-Once. Not more than once?-No. Have they been more than once? I ask you again.-No, only once, I swear that. I left them in together. What do you mean by "together?"-Like you and me now. You perfectly understand that you have sworn that between last harvest and Martinmas they were only once in your house?-Yes, just once, it was at the latter end of harvest. I left them in the house betwixt eight and nine in the evening. Did you leave any one with them?-Two children. What age?-One boy 17, the other 10. Did you find Mr. GRAHAM and Margaret RICKERBY in, on your return?-No. Is your memory refreshed about RICKERBY saying she cowed her mistress?-No, she never said it. How long were you out that night?-About an hour, or an hour and a half. Where were the children that night?-In the kitchen. How many rooms have you?-A kitchen and a parlour, and a back place. Were the children up when you returned?-Yes, they were. I was at a kurn-supper, every one knows what that is. CORONER-How often have the parties been in your house at the same time? Witness-Together? CORONER-I did not say together-both at one time. How often? Witness-Three times. When?-The first time was when I was at supper; the last time when she was sewing. The other time was when she was at our house in the afternoon, and staid all night. CORONER-Did you ever leave the premises after either of these parties came in? Witness-Do you mean for two or three days, or what? CORONER-I mean for any length of time. Witness-No. Could they ever meet in your house without your knowledge?-No. CORONER-Did you ever know any improper intimacy taking place between John GRAHAM and Margaret RICKERBY? Witness-You must explain't, I don't understand you. You don't know what it means?-No. Did you ever see him take any improper liberties with her?-Never. Janet KENNEDY-I am waiter at the Grapes inn. I don't know John GRAHAM. I just saw him once, and a young man in the house said it was he. He came to our house on a Wednesday evening, but I can't be positive. It was in April. I am sure of it. Robert CARRUTHERS pointed him out to me, and said he was John GRAHAM, Kirkandrews. A woman was with him. I did not know her. They had tea together. When I was in the room they did not speak any. They staid all night. John bespoke the lodgings. He asked if they could have a double-bedded room. I went and asked my mistress, and told him they were each to have a bed-room. I showed them to bed. The woman went first, and he went a little after. There was one bed-room betwixt those they occupied; on the same landing, and in the same passage. He came in her room when I was there and asked if she was any better, and she said no. I could not see that she was poorly; I did not observe it before. He came out of the room with me, and went to his room. I never saw him again. He went away about half-past five in the morning. The ostler had called them. Did you take them for man and wife?-I couldn't say, sir. What did you take them for? (No answer.) Were they ever there before?-No sir. Had you ever any conversion with Robert CARRUTHERS?-Yes. What was it?-I told him Mr. GRAHAM had left his own bed-room and gone to another. He was to have been in No. 3, and he went to No. 6. Had he not used the bed in No. 3 at all?-No sir. Sarah MARTIN-I am the wife of Aaron MARTIN, of the Angel inn. I know John GRAHAM, of Kirkandrews, by sight. A woman whose name I do not know was in the habit of meeting him at our inn. From the first time of their coming it must have been from 18 months or two years. They usually came on a Saturday. He came in first, generally. I thought they came on business, and never thought there was any impropriety; I never saw anything to warrant such a belief. He used to say that if a person came and asked for him he was up stairs. A female used to come, and always went up to him. Sometimes they remained half an hour; sometimes an hour. This did not happen very frequently. Probably I might not see them, sometimes, for two or three Saturdays running, and even six. They were last at our house six or seven weeks since, on a Wednesday. I don't remember the girl ever coming in first. The woman was not tall, but stout, and fresh-coloured, and looked like a country person. I think I could identify them both. They never staid all night. They usually came in the middle of the day. Jane IRVING-I am servant with Mr. MARTIN. I remember a man and woman frequenting our house: since I came, two or three months ago, they have called sometimes. It is five or six weeks since they were there. I did not know either of them by name. I should know the man. They used to go up stairs. The same woman always met him. He did not leave his name, and I never heard it mentioned. He just used to say, "if a female comes to enquire for me, I am up stairs." When she came she inquired if the gentleman was up stairs. She did not mention his name. Mrs. MARTIN, re-called-She usually asked, is there a person up stairs waiting for me? I knew her by sight, and I said yes. When he came he said "if any person asks for me I am up stairs;" and without any names being mentioned I perfectly understood that these were the parties who wanted each other. I only remember him mentioning his name on one occasion. I may have seen them there four or five times. At first I thought they came on business; but at last I began to think he was paying his addresses to her. Jane IRVING-It did not occur to me that they were sweethearts. They appeared to be very friendly. The last time he was there was on a Wednesday. I don't know what Wednesday. The two last witnesses were sent up to the gaol to see if they could identity John GRAHAM. On their return- Jane IRVING, recalled-I have been to the gaol. John GRAHAM was pointed out to me. He is the man. Mrs. MARTIN-I have also been to the gaol, and the man pointed out to me as John GRAHAM, is the man who used to come to my house. Jane IRVING-I could not identify the woman, I think, but she was fresh coloured. Mrs. MARTIN-If I saw her I think I could identify her. The CORONER, addressing the jury, said-The witnesses, so far as my information goes, have all been called before you, and you have heard all that has reached my ears respecting the inquiry. You have attended to it with a very great deal of patience, and as I am sure you must have sat at much inconvenience, I am ready to address you upon the evidence, should you think it desirable to close this evening. If you wish, however, to have further time for the purpose of collecting more information, I shall be glad to meet your wishes by adjourning the case to any day you may suggest. Involved with the matter under investigation is an enquiry touching the death of another person nearly related to the party implicated. From circumstances proved before us two lives have been sacrificed, and some others placed in imminent jeopardy; if you require, therefore, time for further information before you give your decision, I shall adjourn the inquest to some future day, that we may throw, if possible, some more light on this hidden deed of darkness. The jury resolved upon an adjournment. The inquest was then adjourned till Thursday next, the 19th of June. The room was much crowded during the whole of the proceedings.