Saturday 14 Jun 1845 (p. 2, col. 8 - p. 3, col. 3) Part 4 SUSPECTED CASES OF POISONING. ----- APPREHENSION OF MR. JOHN GRAHAM. - IMPORTANT INVESTIGATION. [continued] EXAMINATION RESUMED. Elizabeth GRAHAM-I live at Hallburn Workhouse, near Longtown, and am the wife of Joseph GRAHAM, husbandman at Scaleby. I have been married five years. My husband and I are now separated. I was a servant with John GRAHAM of Kirkandrews, from Martinmas till Candlemas. I went there on the 12th of November. I took poorly on the Friday following, and Mr. GRAHAM brought me to Carlisle, to William ROBINSON, of Backhouse's Court. I returned to my service eight days after this. My mistress had been poorly, but she was better then, and going about. She continued better till some time during the Sunday night before she died. She went up to her father's on the Sunday morning. She took some goose to her dinner, and complained a little of being rather sickly. She was often that way held. She laid down a little, on the sofa, and got up to take a little tea. The master was not at home; he left perhaps an hour after dinner. She was a little better after tea, and went about. We went to bed, leaving her sitting up. I saw her next morning. She was very poorly. This was about six o'clock. I did not see her take anything before she went to bed. There were no dishes or plates left when I went to bed. In the morning there was a basin and a spoon, apparently as if it had a little white bread boiled in it, standing on the table. There was a small pan on the hood. The bread and milk had been boiled in it; I knew it had, from the appearance. She was in the habit of taking boiled bread and milk to her supper, with sometimes a little ale in it. Whether she prepared it that night or not, I don't know. John GRAHAM returned just after I went up stairs to bed, about nine o'clock. I heard him come in, before I was undressed. Mrs. GRAHAM might have time to boil the bread and milk and sup it before he came in. I think I did hear her going about after I went up stairs. I cannot say where she went to, whether into the kitchen or the dairy. I did not hear her up that night. I don't know whether John was sober or not when he came home. In the morning he came out of his sleeping room and said Mrs. GRAHAM had been bad during the night. I asked, has she been worse? and he said yes, it was the worst night she had had. I went to ask her how she was, and she said she was very ill in her stomach. I made her some tea, but it did not do her any good. I then went about my work, and Mr. GRAHAM went out. In the forenoon Mrs. GRAHAM turned worse. Mr. GRAHAM hired me near the Pine Apple Inn, at Carlisle. I had not known him before. CORONER-Are you in the family way now?-Yes. When did you fall in the family way?-About two months before Martinmas. How often have you seen Mr. GRAHAM since you left his service?-Once, at a distance. Had you once an appointment with Mr. GRAHAM behind the Bush, since you left his service?-No, sir-behind the Bush? CORONER-Yes, behind the Bush,-had you an appointment with him?-Yes, I had. What was the business you met upon?-He had lost something. He asked me if I knew anything about it, and I said I did not. Who took the message to you?-He came to my brother's house about it, and took me to the Bush tap-room. How long were you there?-Perhaps three quarters of an hour. Did you talk about anything else but a quarter of a pound of tea and a quilt that had been lost?-Nothing that I heard. Was any one with you?-The Misses of the tap-room was there, but she did not stop any. On the same day Mr. TURNER came down for me, and I said I was to go to the Bush tap room. I was not in, but on my return I received the message, and went. I saw Mr. TURNER and Mr. GRAHAM. Did Mr. GRAHAM on that occasion offer to pay for your confinement?-No, he did not. What did he say?-When I was poorly, just after Martinmas he offered to pay for the doctor if I would come back to Mrs. GRAHAM. When Mr. TURNER and he and you were together, did Mr. GRAHAM not buy a bottle of rum, and walk away with you?-He bought a bottle of rum and went away, but I did not go with him. I have never been with him except on that occasion since I left his service. CORONER-Now we'll go back to the Monday. You gave Mrs. GRAHAM some tea; any thing else? Witness-No. I did not serve her with any thing else that I know of. Her sister made things for her. On the Tuesday I made some tea for her, of which her husband took a cup, but I don't remember that any sago was made. She continued very ill all day. I did not hear whether she was worse or not. I was not waiting on her. I asked her on the Tuesday evening if she would require any one to sit with her, and she said no, her husband would lie down beside her. I said we had better sit till midnight, and she said no, no, go to bed, you have to work next day. The boy, the man, and I sat till 12 o'clock, when I went to bed, without undressing. At two o'clock I went and inquired how she was, and she said she was no better. About four I went back, and both were in a sloom. I did not speak, but went back to bed. I rose at six o'clock. On the night before, I was ordered to bed by John and the mistress. It was proposed that MITCHELL, HIND's servant, and myself should sit up, and John objected to it. When Mr. HIND's servant came John sent her away again. He went to bed himself, and the man, the boy, and myself sat till midnight. Mrs. GRAHAM did not tell me she wanted something and could not waken John. I suppose she had fallen over him, and he got up and lifted her into bed again. I think it would be himself who told me so. Have you been examined by any one as to what you were to say to day?-No, never. Has nobody examined you at Longtown workhouse?-I don't know any one telling me what I had to say. Have you been examined by any one?-Witness (after some hesitation) I have seen no person but Mr. MOUNSEY. When?-Last week some time. What day?-I can't remember. Was it Friday last?-I can't say. Was it since Mrs. GRAHAM's body was taken up?-I don't know when it was. Mr. MOUNSEY examined you did he not?-He asked me if I had seen Mr. GRAHAM give Mrs. GRAHAM anything; I said no. He asked me if I was in the family way to John GRAHAM, and I said no. He asked me if I was so when I went there, and I said I had been gone about two months. Do you remember whether it was at the beginning or the latter end of the week?-I can't say; I think it would be the latter end. CORONER-Did you give deceased nothing else but tea?-On the Wednesday I made some sago, and the physician put in some medicine. I think he was from Carlisle-a tall man, with rather a smallish face. I don't know his name. Margaret RICKERBY was then sworn.-I live at Thrustonfield, and am a single woman. I have been servant with Mr. John GRAHAM three years and nine months, till last Martinmas. I went at Candlemas. Why did you leave at Martinmas?-Well, I don't know on what account. What was your reason?-I did not intend to hire. Had there not been some disturbance between Mr. and Mrs. GRAHAM on your account?-I don't know; I never heard any. Had not Mrs. GRAHAM objected to your remaining in her service any longer?-She didn't to me; I would have left at the Lammas, and she would not allow me. Have you ever met with Mr. GRAHAM since you left his service?-Yes, I have seen him different times in Carel. Have you met with him elsewhere?-No, never. When were you last in his company?-It was before Whitsunday. And you have not spoken to him since?-I have not seen him since. Where did you see him last?-It was at the London road station of the Newcastle and Carlisle Railway. Did you meet together?-I was coming from Haltwhistle. Did he come with you?-We were both in one carriage. Where did you join?-At the station at Haltwhistle. How long before that had you seen him?-I don't know,-a few days before. You had not seen him for a few days before you met him? Now, be careful.-I saw him the day before. Where?-At Carlisle. Did you not go to Haltwhistle with him that morning?-Yes. Did you not go to Mrs. SAUL's public house together?-We didn't. You didn't, you swear?-We did not go together. Were you in Mrs. SAUL's public house with him that day?-Yes. Had you not breakfasted together at Mrs. SAUL's?-Yes. Did you not sit for a considerable time in a private room up stairs?-We didn't. CORONER-I trust you are aware that if you are guilty of perjury you are liable to be indicted, and that the punishment is transportation. I would recommend you to be careful before you answer. Did you not breakfast in a room up stairs, and remain an hour together?-We didn't; he left the house in ten minutes after. We were down stairs before. How long did you remain down stairs?-Perhaps half an hour. I think we would. Do you swear you were not more than ten minutes together up stairs?-I can't say to ten minutes. Were you an hour?-I can't say, I didn't see a clock. I think it would not be an hour. What train did you come by in the morning?-The seven o'clock train. Did he not go in the same train with you?-Yes, him and another man. By what train did you return?-The one o'clock train. Where were you from going into Haltwhistle and leaving it?-In amongst the servants. With him or without him?-Without him. Were you in Mrs. SAUL's again?-Yes. Was John there?-He was in, but he did not sit down. Between your seeing him in Mrs. SAUL's, and your leaving the public house how long was it?-I can't say. I don't know whether it would be half an hour. It might be quarter of an hour. Did you leave with him?-No. Was he there when you left?-Not that I saw; it was the hiring day, and he might be in. Where did you see him?-At the station; we separated there, and I have not seen him since. [to be continued]