Hi everyone Newie to this list, I am looking for further information on Richard LLOYD and Isabella NEWBY's families. I have a copy of their marriage certificate in 1848 at Winderemere, Westmoreland. The next thing I have is a birth of a son in Sydney in 1853. I am trying to narrow the year in which they sailed. Richard LLOYD b abt 1812 in Derbyshire?, Wales (daughter's birth cert) or Liverpool, England (death cert but informant is not related). His occupation on Marriage & in Australia was Gardener (may be he worked with Isabella's father). Father - John LLOYD - Coachman, Mother - Alice HARDIMAN. Any info on where he was born or siblings would be appreciated. Isabella NEWBY b abt 1820 Westmoreland. Father - James NEWBY - Gardener, Mother - Alice (surname may be HARRISON). Any info on where he was born or siblings would be appreciated. So would anyone have access to the 1841 or 1851 Census? Or anything else that may give me clues. Thank youMariaNSW, Australia _________________________________________________________________ Win a Hotmail Go-Kart to race at Bathurst. Enter today! http://www.livelife.ninemsn.com.au/compIntro.aspx?compId=4602

Maria I think I have them in the 1851 Census. Richard Lloyd, Gardener Aged 39 Born Wrexham Derby (That seems strange and Wrexham is not Derby) and Isabella 30 Born Werester(?) Westmorland. He is a Gardener and they are both living Dingle Lane, Toxteth Park, Lancashire (Now part of Liverpool). I don't recognise Werester or what it could possibly be, I can't read the original but it certainly seems to begin with W and end with ter. Looks like they must have sailed out between early 1851 and whenever the son was born in 1853. I have not had chance to look in the 1841 yet, but will do so later when I get time. John. -----Original Message----- From: Maria Thomas [mailto:mnmthomas@hotmail.com] Sent: 24 September 2008 04:10 To: ENG-WESTMORLAND Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Lloyd & Newby Family's abt 1848 Hi everyone Newie to this list, I am looking for further information on Richard LLOYD and Isabella NEWBY's families. I have a copy of their marriage certificate in 1848 at Winderemere, Westmoreland. The next thing I have is a birth of a son in Sydney in 1853. I am trying to narrow the year in which they sailed. Richard LLOYD b abt 1812 in Derbyshire?, Wales (daughter's birth cert) or Liverpool, England (death cert but informant is not related). His occupation on Marriage & in Australia was Gardener (may be he worked with Isabella's father). Father - John LLOYD - Coachman, Mother - Alice HARDIMAN. Any info on where he was born or siblings would be appreciated. Isabella NEWBY b abt 1820 Westmoreland. Father - James NEWBY - Gardener, Mother - Alice (surname may be HARRISON). Any info on where he was born or siblings would be appreciated. So would anyone have access to the 1841 or 1851 Census? Or anything else that may give me clues. Thank youMariaNSW, Australia _________________________________________________________________ Win a Hotmail Go-Kart to race at Bathurst. Enter today! http://www.livelife.ninemsn.com.au/compIntro.aspx?compId=4602 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks John for all the information. It certainly seems to be them. So I maybe can confirm an arrival in Dec 1852 - unfortunately it only states R. LLOYD & wife. Funny, no children between 1848 & 1853 - maybe it was the Australian magic :-)Maria, NSW, Australia _________________________________________________________________ Win a Hotmail Go-Kart to race at Bathurst. Enter today! http://www.livelife.ninemsn.com.au/compIntro.aspx?compId=4602