Hello All, I'm looking for some advice / help: My 5th great grandfather Thomas Holme was born circa 1760 in Westmorland. On 21 July 1793 he married Catherine Wilkinson at St Lawrence's, Crosby Ravensworth. At least 11 children then followed; Agnes (1793); Henry (1794); Mary (1796); John (1798); Thomas (1800); Jane (1802); Anthony (1804); Edmund (1806); Edmund (1807); Catherine (1808) and Sarah (1812). All baptised (and some buried) at St Lawrence's and all baptism entries list both Thomas and Catherine and give residence as Barnskew. Thomas also appears in 1841 census as farmer at Barnskew. Thomas died 27 Dec 1843 and is buried at St Lawrence's. Now the issue I have is I keep coming across a possible link to the High Constable of Westmorland West Ward. >From Roland Grigg's Parish Register transcripts I have a potential father and siblings of Thomas 1748 HOLME Henry s of Henry of Barnsceugh bapt1748Mar29 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1749 HOLME Jane d of Henry of Barnskew bapt1749Aug31 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1752 HOLME Mary d of Henry of Barnskew bapt1752Jan16 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1755 HOLME John s of Henry of Barnskew bapt1755Mar13 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1756 HOLME Edmund s of Henry of Barnskew bapt1756Nov10 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1759 HOLME Thos s of Henry of Barnskew bapt1759Mar8 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) [Potentially my 5th great grandfather] 1760 HOLME Sarah d of Henry of Barnskew bapt1760Dec4 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1763 HOLME Anthony s of Henry of Barnskew bapt1763Jan27 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1798 HOLME Henry of Barnskew Householder age77 bur 1798Jan27 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) [This potentially could be Thomas' father, my 6th great grandfather and his birth would be circa 1721] >From British History Online I have: West Ward High Constables 1731-1756 Henry Holme, the elder 1756-1797 Henry Holme, the younger 1798-1844 Thomas Holme 1844-1856 Henry Holme The end of Henry Holme the younger's period as High Constable, ties in with the death date of Henry Holme of Barnskew in the PR transcripts of Jan 1798 The end of Thomas Holme's period as High Constable also seems to tie in with date of death of my Thomas. Then from Parson & White's History of Cumberland & Westmorland 1829 page 592 (as transcribed by Geoffrey Walton on the Cumberland mailing list in 2003) we have: p.592 WEST WARD [Westmor- REAGILL Douglas John, master of the Free School Gelderd John, weaver Holme Thomas, High Constable for the West Ward, Barnskew [Johnson Wm. blacksmith Smith Thomas, grocer The directory is from 1829 so this would correspond with my 5th great grandfather Thomas living at Barnskew. So my problem is at the moment this all seems coincidental. I don't have anything definite to tie my Thomas to Thomas son of Henry in the PR Transcripts to Thomas and Henry the High Constables or even that Thomas High Constable is my Thomas and not a cousin or unrelated Holme. It all centres on the one word "Barnskew"! Does anyone have any ideas on how I can prove or disprove this tenuous connection? I'm not concerned what the outcome is i.e. I'm not looking to make my Thomas the High Constable if he wasn't just don't know what information is available that could help in finding the reality. regards Cath

Hi Cath It's probably worth looking for an obituary for either Henry or Thomas the High Constables. If the position was held by the same family over a number of years, it would be the type of story that was likely to be reported. Regards John -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cath Wooff Sent: 16 November 2008 13:21 To: ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Thomas Holme [5th great grandfather ] - HighConstable of Westmorland West Ward or not? Hello All, I'm looking for some advice / help: My 5th great grandfather Thomas Holme was born circa 1760 in Westmorland. On 21 July 1793 he married Catherine Wilkinson at St Lawrence's, Crosby Ravensworth. At least 11 children then followed; Agnes (1793); Henry (1794); Mary (1796); John (1798); Thomas (1800); Jane (1802); Anthony (1804); Edmund (1806); Edmund (1807); Catherine (1808) and Sarah (1812). All baptised (and some buried) at St Lawrence's and all baptism entries list both Thomas and Catherine and give residence as Barnskew. Thomas also appears in 1841 census as farmer at Barnskew. Thomas died 27 Dec 1843 and is buried at St Lawrence's. Now the issue I have is I keep coming across a possible link to the High Constable of Westmorland West Ward. >From Roland Grigg's Parish Register transcripts I have a potential father and siblings of Thomas 1748 HOLME Henry s of Henry of Barnsceugh bapt1748Mar29 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1749 HOLME Jane d of Henry of Barnskew bapt1749Aug31 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1752 HOLME Mary d of Henry of Barnskew bapt1752Jan16 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1755 HOLME John s of Henry of Barnskew bapt1755Mar13 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1756 HOLME Edmund s of Henry of Barnskew bapt1756Nov10 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1759 HOLME Thos s of Henry of Barnskew bapt1759Mar8 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) [Potentially my 5th great grandfather] 1760 HOLME Sarah d of Henry of Barnskew bapt1760Dec4 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1763 HOLME Anthony s of Henry of Barnskew bapt1763Jan27 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1798 HOLME Henry of Barnskew Householder age77 bur 1798Jan27 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) [This potentially could be Thomas' father, my 6th great grandfather and his birth would be circa 1721] >From British History Online I have: West Ward High Constables 1731-1756 Henry Holme, the elder 1756-1797 Henry Holme, the younger 1798-1844 Thomas Holme 1844-1856 Henry Holme The end of Henry Holme the younger's period as High Constable, ties in with the death date of Henry Holme of Barnskew in the PR transcripts of Jan 1798 The end of Thomas Holme's period as High Constable also seems to tie in with date of death of my Thomas. Then from Parson & White's History of Cumberland & Westmorland 1829 page 592 (as transcribed by Geoffrey Walton on the Cumberland mailing list in 2003) we have: p.592 WEST WARD [Westmor- REAGILL Douglas John, master of the Free School Gelderd John, weaver Holme Thomas, High Constable for the West Ward, Barnskew [Johnson Wm. blacksmith Smith Thomas, grocer The directory is from 1829 so this would correspond with my 5th great grandfather Thomas living at Barnskew. So my problem is at the moment this all seems coincidental. I don't have anything definite to tie my Thomas to Thomas son of Henry in the PR Transcripts to Thomas and Henry the High Constables or even that Thomas High Constable is my Thomas and not a cousin or unrelated Holme. It all centres on the one word "Barnskew"! Does anyone have any ideas on how I can prove or disprove this tenuous connection? I'm not concerned what the outcome is i.e. I'm not looking to make my Thomas the High Constable if he wasn't just don't know what information is available that could help in finding the reality. regards Cath ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1834 - Release Date: 06/12/2008 16:55 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1834 - Release Date: 06/12/2008 16:55