I read through all the diary pages and am amazed that you could put all the pieces together- with input from some other very sharp people! Well done! All that I can contribute are the following- and knowing my luck at the moment, I am probably wrong! Thursday 31 [31=334] bought 3 farrier aprons Saturday 30 [89-276] tried the Scar [Knipes' Scar near Shap] Saturday 8 [159-206] is Barnard Castle near enough? Don't you want to take on my dilemma? Thomas Knipe born about 1780 married Frances Ritson in 1815 Plumbland and died Maryport 1842. When and where was he born? [He was a husbandman/farmer/yeoman] He is not the Thomas born in Uldale, Baildon etc and his father's name was probably John. He might have had a sister Eleanor. I have all the documentation of his, and his decendants- and have turned the Cumbrian Archives inside out- what am I missing? The KNIPE name is found in both West and Lancs. but I do have wills of a John and William around 1715 St Bees and Whitehaven and a half-brother Thomas Knipe is mentioned. On the 1841 census Thomas was enumerated as having been born in Cumberland. Maybe I will have to accept that we will never know! [ Just as another piece of probably useless info we still have a very strong genetic streak running through- very tall, very fair skin, strawberry blond through to auburn, which is a useless combination if you live in South Africa!!!!] Thanks for a very entertaining few days! Bev Kirby