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    1. [ENG-WESTMORLAND] 1889 Cumbrian Diary Update 2 - Rob is the Cumbrian Master Sleuth of the Month!
    2. Petra Mitchinson
    3. Rob sent this message to the Cumberland list: >>> Well, it's certainly got me hooked! I think I have found two more of his men - James Furness, Stobars Lodge, Kirkby Stephen, 42, Gardner. Thomas Warwick, & his son Gibson, Main Street, 52, Joiner. I found another note somewhere on Rootsweb from a fellow researcher, that Gibson Warwick had worked on the Stobars Estate all of his life - so I wonder if the author of your diary also lived there? In the 1891 census, the residents of Stobars Hall were: Richard B Thompson, single, head, 29, living on own means. Annie Thompson, mother, widow, 56. Gerard E Thompson, brother, 27, living on own means, and four domestic servants. The fact that Furness lives next door in the Lodge might also be a good pointer. There is also a Thompson family down the road in Greenriggs: Joseph Thompson, 52, Yeoman Farmer Ann Thompson, 59, wife and a large adult family: Isabella, 34 John, 32, farmers son Joseph, 30, farmers son Agnes, 29 Ann, 27 Margaret, 21, student of teaching Arthur, 20, student of Literae Humanities. Perhaps the authour is from this family? And the Aunt, he refers to (his benefactor) is Annie Thompson? <<< I responded: >>> Rob, you've got it! I only found him by chance because I came across James FURNESS living at Stobars Lodge. It is Richard Bovil THOMPSON, who I think is the writer of the diary. The aunts he refers to are very likely Maria and Agnes Elyetson THOMPSON, sisters of his father (they erected a memorial at Crosby Garrett Church to Richard's father Matthew), and Richard inherited the "Lordship or Manor of Crosby Garrett" for life from aunt Agnes when she died in 1909. The aunts lived in Main Street in Kirkby Stephen in 1881, although Maria appears to have died in 1885 so could not have been mentioned in the diary. Google "Richard Bovil Thompson" to see a document regarding the ownership of Crosby Garrett Common - last page of the document. I shall post my write-up on the family in a minute. Congratulations, Rob!!! You are the CUMBRIAN MASTER SLEUTH OF THE MONTH! >>>

    10/14/2009 09:32:37
    1. Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] 1889 Cumbrian Diary Update 2 - Rob is the Cumbrian Master Sleuth of the Month!
    2. craig simpson
    3. Hi Petra, I have been looking at your quiz with interest and read the diary the other day. I cannot lay claim to being a Master Sleuth but yeserday before going to work I noticed in the Diary reference to both Warwick & Gibson having something to do with what sounded like joinery repair work. I felt it could have been a reference to my ancestors who I knew worked on the Stobars Estate for many years but I did not know who lived at the house in 1889.............guess I should have had a stab at it. Congratulations Rob for doing such a good piece of investigation !!!!!!!!!!!! I was the researcher who posted the note about Gibson Warwick having worked at Stobars Hall, Gibsons father Thomas Warwick was my 3rd Great Grand Uncle. Just to confirm the family worked at Stobars Hall here is the obituary for Gibson Warwick 1876-1934 as reported in the Westmorland Gazette on Friday March 17th 1934. "Death of Mr. Gibson Warwick-Kirkby Stephen people received a shock on Tuesday on hearing of the sudden death that morning of Mr.Gibson Warwick, Market Street, a much respected inhabitant. The cause of death was heart failure. Mr. Warwick had been employed as joiner on the Stobars Hall estate all his working life-over 40 years. He was a regular attender at the Fletcher Hill Methodist Church, being a devoted member and faithful official. He was Senior Trustee of Kirkby Stephen branch of Rechabites. In sport he was a keen cricketer, and during his long association with the Club was one of the opening batsmen. He leaves a widow and married daughter. The funeral takes place at Kirkby Stephen today (Friday)." Gibson Warwick who died Tuesday 14th March 1934 at Kirkby Stephen. > From: Petra.Mitchinson@doctors.org.uk > To: ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com; Genealogy-Cumberland@googlegroups.com > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:32:37 +0100 > Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] 1889 Cumbrian Diary Update 2 - Rob is the Cumbrian Master Sleuth of the Month! > > Rob sent this message to the Cumberland list: > > >>> Well, it's certainly got me hooked! > > I think I have found two more of his men - > James Furness, Stobars Lodge, Kirkby Stephen, 42, Gardner. > Thomas Warwick, & his son Gibson, Main Street, 52, Joiner. > > I found another note somewhere on Rootsweb from a fellow researcher, that Gibson Warwick had worked on the Stobars Estate all of his life - so I wonder if the author of your diary also lived there? > > In the 1891 census, the residents of Stobars Hall were: > Richard B Thompson, single, head, 29, living on own means. > Annie Thompson, mother, widow, 56. > Gerard E Thompson, brother, 27, living on own means, > and four domestic servants. > > The fact that Furness lives next door in the Lodge might also be a good pointer. > > There is also a Thompson family down the road in Greenriggs: > Joseph Thompson, 52, Yeoman Farmer > Ann Thompson, 59, wife > and a large adult family: > Isabella, 34 > John, 32, farmers son > Joseph, 30, farmers son > Agnes, 29 > Ann, 27 > Margaret, 21, student of teaching > Arthur, 20, student of Literae Humanities. > > Perhaps the authour is from this family? And the Aunt, he refers to (his benefactor) is Annie Thompson? <<< > > I responded: > > >>> Rob, you've got it! > > I only found him by chance because I came across James FURNESS living at Stobars Lodge. > > It is Richard Bovil THOMPSON, who I think is the writer of the diary. > > The aunts he refers to are very likely Maria and Agnes Elyetson THOMPSON, sisters of his father (they erected a memorial at Crosby Garrett Church to Richard's father Matthew), and Richard inherited the "Lordship or Manor of Crosby Garrett" for life from aunt Agnes when she died in 1909. The aunts lived in Main Street in Kirkby Stephen in 1881, although Maria appears to have died in 1885 so could not have been mentioned in the diary. > > Google "Richard Bovil Thompson" to see a document regarding the ownership of Crosby Garrett Common - last page of the document. > > I shall post my write-up on the family in a minute. > > Congratulations, Rob!!! You are the CUMBRIAN MASTER SLEUTH OF THE MONTH! >>> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Did you know you can get Messenger on your mobile? http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/

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