Many thanks again Petra Esther Savage was named after her paternal grandmother, Esther Sutton. Her brother, Crosfield Savage had migrated to the USA ca. 1810, and in 1827 was the Consul General for Guatemala in New York. David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia Saturday 26 Jun 1819 (p. 3, col. 4) MARRIAGES. At Penrith, on Thursday, Mr. John MASON, bleacher, Emont Bridge, to Miss Esther SAVAGE, of Clifton, both belonging to the Society of Friends. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Ha ! I couldn't resist. Nothing like a good pun ! Barb. >>>-----Original Message----- From: Art Faint<<<<

Barb, that brightened my day. Thanks, Art in New Hampshire -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb Ontario Canada via Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 1:29 PM To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] PENRITH HERALD, September 26, 1874 / A CLOSING ARTICLE FOR YOU. TOM HOOD is now accused of being a cremationist because he said shortly before his death that "he was dying out of charity to the undertaker, who wished to urn a lively HOOD." ============================================ This completes my transcription of the September 26, 1874 edition of THE PENRITH HERALD ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ barb, ontario, canada. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the explanation, David! -----Original Message----- From: cumberland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cumberland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Armstrong via Sent: 10 February 2016 14:05 To: Petra Mitchinson <petra.mitchinson@doctors.org.uk>; eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com; Cumberland Mailing List <CUMBERLAND@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CUMB] [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Consuls - (was Carlisle Patriot, 26 Jun 1819 - BMD) Petra A consul isn’t a diplomat. Instead he’s a agent looking after the routine business affairs for a country. For this reason, they’re often local businessmen and would assist the skippers of ships in their dealings with the local authorities. When Britain introduced formal “crew agreements” for British ships, the skippers had to get them stamped by the harbour master in every British (Empire) port, and by the British Consul in foreign ports. The majority of British crew agreements are now held in the “Maritime History Archive, Memorial University, St John’s, Newfoundland. Using these, I was able to trace my German Great Grandfather as a seaman on British ships back, voyage by voyage, until he first signed as crew of a British ship in Hamburg. The harbourmaster and consular stamps on the crew agreements allowed me to see when and to where he sailed on these voyages. One voyage in the 1880s was from Cardiff to Pireaus, and onto Taganrog at the mouth of the River Don on the Sea of Azov and then back to Cardiff. Regards David From: Petra Mitchinson via Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:29 PM To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com ; Cumberland Mailing List Subject: Re: [CUMB] [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Carlisle Patriot, 26 Jun 1819 - BMD How does an Englishman become Consul General for Guatemala???

TOM HOOD is now accused of being a cremationist because he said shortly before his death that "he was dying out of charity to the undertaker, who wished to urn a lively HOOD." ============================================ This completes my transcription of the September 26, 1874 edition of THE PENRITH HERALD ____________________________________________________________________________________ barb, ontario, canada.

How does an Englishman become Consul General for Guatemala??? -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Armstrong via Sent: 10 February 2016 12:23 To: Petra Mitchinson <petra.mitchinson@doctors.org.uk>; Cumberland Mailing List <CUMBERLAND@rootsweb.com>; Westmorland List <ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Carlisle Patriot, 26 Jun 1819 - BMD Many thanks again Petra Esther Savage was named after her paternal grandmother, Esther Sutton. Her brother, Crosfield Savage had migrated to the USA ca. 1810, and in 1827 was the Consul General for Guatemala in New York. David Armstrong Maylands Western Australia Saturday 26 Jun 1819 (p. 3, col. 4) MARRIAGES. At Penrith, on Thursday, Mr. John MASON, bleacher, Emont Bridge, to Miss Esther SAVAGE, of Clifton, both belonging to the Society of Friends.

Saturday 26 Jun 1819 (p. 3, col. 4) MARRIAGES. On Monday last, at Penrith, by the Rev. Mr. BEWSHER, Mr. DOBINSON, of this City, to Eliza, third daughter the late Christopher ROBINSON, Esq. of Penrith. At St. Cuthbert's, in this city, on Sunday, Mr. John M'BRIDE, shoemaker, to Miss Mary Ann ROUTLEDGE. At St. Mary's, on Thursday last, Mr. John GRAHAM, calico-printer, to Miss Margaret BELL, of Rockliffe. Tuesday last, at Stanwix, Mr. Wm. IRVING, to Miss Mary HUNTINGTON. At Wigton, on Wednesday week, Mr. John YOUNG, of Carlisle, to Miss MITCHELL of Wigton. At Hexham, on the 14th inst. Mr. James ARTHUR, numberman, Rickergate, Carlisle, to Miss E. ELLIS, stay-maker, of the former place. At Penrith, on Thursday, Mr. John MASON, bleacher, Emont Bridge, to Miss Esther SAVAGE, of Clifton, both belonging to the Society of Friends. Saturday last, at Penrith, Mr. Wm. LANCASTER to Miss Elizabeth THATCHER, both of that place. At Cockermouth, on the 23rd inst. at the Friends' Meeting House, Mr. Samuel MARSHALL, master of the Friends' Seminary at Kendal, to Miss Hannah TIPPING, of Parton, near Whitehaven. At Crosscanonby, by the Rev. Mr. DONALD, on the 8th inst. Mr. Jonathan MARTINDALE, shoemaker, of Maryport, to Miss Ann PINGEY, of the parish of Camerton.-Same place, on Monday last, Mr. Wm. KAIN, to Miss Mary Ann NELSON, both of Crosby. Monday last, at Whitehaven, Mr. James Mc.DONALD, to Miss Elizabeth TATTERS.-Saturday last, Mr. Wm. O'NEIL, to Miss Jane BAXTER. Lately at Bromfield, (by the Rev. T. MARTIN, curate of Orton,) Mr. Richard THOMPSON, to Miss Ann HESKET; both of Allonby. At Workington, Capt. GABBY, to Miss MAJOR. Mr. John HODGSON, to Miss Jane HEAD; both of Loweswater. June 16, by special license, at the house of J. G. LAMBTON Esq. M. P. in Cleveland-row, the Honourable Henry F. C. CAVENDISH, M. P. Major in the 9th Regt. of Lancers, son to Lord George CAVENDISH, to Frances Susan, widow of the Hon. Frederick HOWARD, and only daughter of the late W. H. LAMBTON, Esq. M. P. On Saturday week, at Salcombe Church, near Sidmouth, Capt. ARMYTAGE, of the Colstream Regiment of Guards, second son of Sir George ARMYTAGE, Bart., of Kirklees Yorkshire, to Charlotte Legendre STARKIE, only daughter of the late Legendre STARKIE, Esq. of Huntroyd, Lancashire. DEATHS. Since our last:-Mrs. Lucy WALES, of the Irishgate-brow, aged 58.-At an advanced age, Mr. William GRAHAM, slop-seller, of Scotch-street. At Penrith, on the 18th instant, Mary, the wife of Thomas TURNER, farrier, aged 33. At Great Salkeld, near Penrith, on Monday last, after a short illness, the Rev. Mr. HODGSON, curate of that parish, aged 39. In Wigton, on Sunday se'nnight, Mrs. GREGSON, wife of the Rev. John GREGSON, advanced in years. On the 17th inst. at Maryport, Mr. George TURNER, ship-carpenter, aged 22.-Same day, at Dearham, Mr. Joseph MESSENGER, ship-carpenter, aged 19.-On the 18th inst. at Maryport, Mrs. Ann MIDDLETON, widow, aged 45 years. At Whitehaven-On Wednesday last, in Duke-street, after a short illness, Mr. John NICHOLSON, in the 77th year of his age, much respected.-On Thursday, at the House of Recovery, (where he had been taken on Monday), Mr. Robert HOGG, in the prime of life, hairdresser. Monday last, in Strand-street, Whitehaven, Jane, wife of Mr. Wm. HARTLEY, aged 45.-Friday, at Mount Pleasant, Eleanor, wife of Mr. James MOFFAT, aged 45.-Last week, at same place, Mr. Joseph LITTLE, aged 59.-Saturday, in Church-street, Mr. James BELL, aged 24.-Last week, in Scotch-street, Mrs. Jane WELSH, aged 75.-In Peter-street, Mrs. Eleanor MILBURN, aged 57.-At Beckermont, Mr. James BORWICK, aged 65.- At Workington, Miss Ann KENDALL, aged 20.-At same place, Mrs. ADDERTON, relict of the late Rev. Mr. ADDERTON, minister of Harrington. Saturday last, at Low-Mire, near Workington, Mrs. Martha STEELE, aged 90. At Tuesday last, at Kendal, Ruth DOUGLAS, advanced in years. On Tuesday week, of ossification in the head, at his house in Bedford-square, Middlesex, Philip DAUNCEY, Esq. aged 59, King's Counsel, and a distinguished ornament of the bar. At Cheltenham, the Rev. Peploe WARD, D. D. Rector of Cottenham, Cambridge, Prebendary of Ely, and formerly Fellow of Queen's College. On Thursday week, after a long and severe illness, in the 60th year of his age, the Right Hon. Robert DUNDAS, of Arniston, Lord Chief Baron of the Scotch Court of Exchequer. The coincidence may not be unworthy of notice, that the same day, being the commencement of the Lammas Term in the Court of Exchequer, his Lordship's successor, Sir S. SHEPHERD, arrived in Edinburgh. On the 28th ult. aged one hundred and nine years, Eliz. PERRY, born at Shirlheath, in the parish of Eardisland, and who resided at Streamford, Herefordshire, within 200 yards of the same spot, to the day of her death. Her sight was a little impaired, but she could walk about the house, with the assistance of her daughter, who is now upwards of 80.

Saturday 26 Jun 1819 (p. 1, col. 6 and p. 2, col. 3) TITHE-FREE ESTATE AT WELTON FOR SALE. TO BE SOLD, in PUBLIC SALE, upon the Premises, on Thursday, the 8th Day of July 1819, at 4 o'Clock in the Afternoon, either together or in Parcels, (if not previously disposed of by Private Contract, of which notice will be given)— ALL that TITHE-FREE MESSUAGE and TENEMENT, situate at HIGH WELTON, in the Parish of SEBERGHAM, and County of Cumberland; consisting of a Dwelling-House, suitable Farm-buildings, an Orchard well stocked with Fruit Trees, and 31 Acres of excellent Arable and Meadow Land, will Watered and Fenced, now in the occupation of ROBERT STALKER, as Tenant. The greater part of the Estate is Freehold, the other Copyhold, held under the Duke of Devonshire, by Payment of a Yearly Rent of 4s. 2d., and a Fine of 8s. 4d. on Alienation, and only pays a small Prescription in lieu of Tithes. It is 8 miles from Carlisle, 6 from Wigton, is in a high state of Cultivation, and near to Lime and Coal. Conditions will be produced at the time of Sale; and further particulars may, in the mean time, be known on application to Mr. ROBERT BARNES, of Sebergham-Hall; or to Mrs. ELIZABETH BARNES, of Rickerby, near Carlisle, the Owner.—The Tenant will shew the Premises. N. B.—A considerable part of the Purchase Money may remain on Mortgage of the Property, if required. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CARLISLE GAS LIGHTS. THE SUBSCRIBERS to the CARLISLE GAS LIGHTS are requested to pay forthwith to Mr. CHARLES BROWN, the Treasurer, the Sum of £10 per Cent. upon the Amount of their respective Shares.———June 24, 1819. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WIGTON FRIENDLY SOCIETY. A DISSOLUTION of the WIGTON FRIENDLY SOCIETY having now taken place, NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, that the Treasurers intend to meet at the CLUB-ROOM, in WIGTON, on Monday and Tuesday the 28th and 29th instant, at Nine o'Clock in the morning of each day, to pay off the Dividend due to each Member. N. B.—Every one of the Members must provide himself with the necessary change. Wigton, June 24, 1819. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUCH of the CREDITORS of Messieurs LITTLES, of MEALSGATE, in the Parish of BOLTON, COLLIERS, and SARAH LITTLE, of the same place, Widow, or any of them as now hold the Security of Mrs. MARGARET DREWRY, of PRIESTCROFT, in the Parish of BOLTON, Widow, are requested to send a particular of their Demands to the said Mrs. DREWRY, or to Messrs. STEEL and SON, Solicitors, Cockermouth, in order that the same may be adjusted and paid. Cockermouth, June 23, 1819. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TO BE SOLD, by PRIVATE CONTRACT, that Valuable FRONT SHOP, situated under the COUNCIL CHAMBER of the TOWN HALL, fronting the Market-place and Scotch-street, CARLISLE, now in the possession of Mr. James SAUNDERS, Linen Draper. Apply to Mr. GEORGE MINGINS, or ROWLAND COWPER, the Owner. Carlisle, June 22, 1819. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FIELDS NEAR CARLISLE FOR SALE. TO BE SOLD, by AUCTION, at the COFFEE-HOUSE, CARLISLE, on Thursday the 15th Day of July, 1819, either together or separately,—TWO VALUABLE. CLOSES or Parcels of Ground, adjoining to each other, called by the respective names of PAVEY LANDS; containing, by Admeasurement, 5A. 1R. 35P.; and TYLE CLOSE, 2A. 3R. 10P., situate in Watergate Lane, near to the City of CARLISLE, now in the Occupation of JOHN CARR, as Tenant at will. The Premises are of Freehold Tenure, with the exception of a part of Pavey Lands, which is Customary. Conditions will be produced at the Sale; and Particulars, in the mean time, may be had at the Office of Mr. DOBINSON, Solicitor, Carlisle, who will send a Person to shew the Premises. JOHN CHRISTOPHERSON, Auctioneer. Carlisle, 25th June, 1819.

Kendal RO have all BMD's from 1594 under the reference WPR 36 Monumental Inscriptions for Kirkby Thore are available from the Cumbria FHS, unfortunately I do not have a copy of that one. John -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pdw5019 via Sent: 09 February 2016 20:54 To: bakerb24@sourcecable.net; eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] St. Michael Church, Kirkby Thore, Westmorland Thanks for the info. At least it verified what I have. Now if I can get confirmation that there buried there on the grounds. Paul Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: Barb Ontario Canada <bakerb24@sourcecable.net> To: PDW5019 <PDW5019@aol.com>; eng-westmorland <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2016 01:37 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] St. Michael Church, Kirkby Thore, Westmorland Hello Paul: I hope this link will take you where you want to go. <a href="http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/Appleby/StMichael.htm" target="_blank">http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/Appleby/StMichael.htm</ a> Barb, Ontario, Canada >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- From: PDW5019 via Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] St. Michael Church, Kirkby Thore, Westmorland<<<<<< ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <a href="mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com">ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@r ootsweb.com</a> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Saturday 19 Jun 1819 (p. 3, col. 5) MARRIAGES. On Saturday last, at St. Cuthbert's, Mr. Joseph NANSON, to Miss Mary NIXON.-Sunday, Mr. John WATSON, to Miss Frances GOULDING.-Thursday, Mr. Joseph PEASCOD, butcher, to Miss Helen KERR, of the parish of Rockliff. At St. Mary's, on Saturday last, Mr. John Jordan WALKER, of the parish of St. Bees, to Miss Sarah NANSON, of St. Mary's parish.-Mr. David HETHERINGTON, to Miss Catherine LITTLE.-Mr. John NICHOLSON, to Miss Margaret SHIELDS. On Wednesday week, at Raughtonhead, Mr. Joseph SCHOLLICK, of the Bush Inn coach-office, in this City, to Miss Jame [sic - Jane according to FamilySearch] WILSON, of the former place. At Penrith, on Saturday last, Mr. Wm. LANCASTER, to Miss Eliz. THATCHER, both of that place. At Nether-Denton Church, on Saturday last, Mr. Thos. HOLMES, of Cleugh-head, to Miss Ann WAUGH, of Low Houses. At Whitehaven, last week, Capt. Wm. NICHOLSON, to Miss Sarah MITCHELL.-Sunday last, Mr. Richard WHITE, to Miss Mary PRATT. At Bridekirk, Mr. Henry DALTON, of Eaglesfield, to Miss PALMER, of Great Broughton. DEATHS. On Saturday last, in this City, Mr. Joseph PORTER, aged 78, well-known for many years past as the clerk of the Carlisle Race Course. Yesterday, Joseph, second son of Mr. Joseph SCOTT, of Blackhall-wood, aged 15; being the sixth death in that house within 23 months, and all of lingering complaints. At Penrith, on Monday, Mary WRIGHT, aged 14.-On Tuesday, Isabella STEWART, aged 8. At Lilly Hall, near Whitehaven, on Tuesday last, Mr. Thomas MOUNSEY, aged 23. Last week-At Gosforth, Mrs. Jane JACKSON, widow, aged 76.-At Greysouthen, Richard BELL, Esq. aged 71.-Same place, Mrs. Elizabeth WALKER, of Whitehaven, aged 39. At Egremont, John Peter PAUMIER, aged 11 years, son of Col. M. PAUMIER, residing at Egremont. On Saturday, the 5th inst. at York, after an illness of only three days, aged 56, Ann Maria, the wife of Joshua CROMPTON, Esq. of Esholt-hall, in the county of York, and coheiress of the late W. ROOKES, Esq. of that place. At Dumfries, last week, Mrs. ARMSTRONG, wife of Mr. ARMSTRONG, merchant.-Same place, Mrs. PETTIT, aged 58.-At Lochmaben, Mr. Bailie GARDINER, aged 70.

Saturday 19 Jun 1819 (p. 3, col. 2-3) At a general Vestry meeting, held in the parish church of St. Mary, on Thursday, convened for the purpose of appointing a select vestry to put into execution an Act of 59, Geo. III., entitled, "An Act to amend the laws for the Relief of the Poor," the following gentlemen were unanimously elected: Mr. D. CARRICK, sen., Mr. John LONSDALE, Mr. John HOLSTEAD, Scotch Street; Mr. Thomas ARMSTRONG, Mr. Charles KING, Mr. Mr. [sic] Francis STODART, Fisher Street; Mr. John FORSTER, Mr. John MATTHEWS, Mr. Silas SAUL, Castle Street; Mr. Matthew YOUNG, Mr. James MOOR, Mr. Robert HEWSON, Abbey Street.-Mr. YOUNG proposed, as the present valuation of property was very unequal, that proper persons should be appointed to make a fresh valuation. The meeting concurred in the necessity of such a measure, but were of opinion, that the consideration of it had better be postponed for six or eight weeks. John HODGSON, Esq., (the chairman) recommended that a general vestry meeting should be called in the course of that time to appoint surveyors, which was agreed to. The meeting adjourned to Thursday the 24th inst., then to, meet at the committee-room, in the Work-House. Vegetation proceeds with the utmost rapidity, in consequence of the copious and genial showers which have lately fallen. Two young men are now confined in our gaol for further examination, upon a charge of having cut the throat of a lamb on Wednesday night last, in the race-course, belonging to Richard LOWRY, Esq. of Durnhill, and stealing the carcase. As they have not yet been fully committed, it would be unfair to enter into further particulars. Mr. CARRUTHERS has three pictures in this year's exhibition at the Royal Academy:-"In Remembrance"-"Portrait of a Gentleman"-and "Portrait of Mrs. J. GRAHAM." The Rev. Mr. SLOAN, of Dornock, cut a field of grass on Wednesday-a good crop. Herrings begin to be plentiful on the Scotch side of the Solway, and there sell 14 for 1s. On Saturday evening, Mr. David BROWN, mason, of Dumfries, fell from the roof of a house in High Street, and was killed. Monday last, at Dumfries, came on the annual election of the Commissioners of Police, when the following gentlemen were declared duly elected, viz:-Ward 1st. Robert NIELSON, Robert RIDDICK; 2d, Robert THOMSON, *William BALIEFF; 3d, *James RIED, John RICHARDSON; 4th, James CREIGHTON, William HOWAT; 5th, Christopher SMYTH, Thomas REID; 6th, Adam RANKINE, *Robert WRIGHT. (Those marked * are elected for the first time, the rest are re-elected.)

Wrong St. Michael's - the link is to the Appleby church, not the Kirkby Thore Church. This should be the correct link but when I go there I only get a blank page: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/KirkbyThore/index.htm Here is a working link to the Kirkby Thore page on the Cumbria FHS website: http://cumbriafhs.com/cgi-bin/cumbria/main.pl?parish=wkt Good luck! Petra -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb Ontario Canada via Sent: 09 February 2016 18:38 To: PDW5019 <PDW5019@aol.com>; eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] St. Michael Church, Kirkby Thore, Westmorland Hello Paul: I hope this link will take you where you want to go. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/Appleby/StMichael.htm Barb, Ontario, Canada

Hi  If you Google  the church  name you will see a  photo  there. The records  appear  to  be  held  at Kendal  Record  Office.  Regards  Bob  Sent from Samsung tablet -------- Original message -------- From: PDW5019 via <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Date: 09/02/2016 18:08 (GMT+00:00) To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] St. Michael Church, Kirkby Thore, Westmorland Does SKS know if this church is still active? Where, if at all, would there be records? There seems to be an attached cemetery, and I'm wondering if my GG Grandfather & GG Grandmother, Robert & Mary Winter, along with several of there children, are buried there. They all died in Kirkby Thore from 1839 to 1876 according to a document I found (Bellasis book). Paul In Michigan, USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the info. At least it verified what I have. Now if I can get confirmation that there buried there on the grounds. Paul Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: Barb Ontario Canada <bakerb24@sourcecable.net> To: PDW5019 <PDW5019@aol.com>; eng-westmorland <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2016 01:37 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] St. Michael Church, Kirkby Thore, Westmorland Hello Paul: I hope this link will take you where you want to go. <a href="http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/Appleby/StMichael.htm" target="_blank">http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/Appleby/StMichael.htm</a> Barb, Ontario, Canada >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- From: PDW5019 via Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] St. Michael Church, Kirkby Thore, Westmorland<<<<<< ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <a href="mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com">ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com</a> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Paul: I hope this link will take you where you want to go. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/Appleby/StMichael.htm Barb, Ontario, Canada >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- From: PDW5019 via Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] St. Michael Church, Kirkby Thore, Westmorland<<<<<< ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does SKS know if this church is still active? Where, if at all, would there be records? There seems to be an attached cemetery, and I'm wondering if my GG Grandfather & GG Grandmother, Robert & Mary Winter, along with several of there children, are buried there. They all died in Kirkby Thore from 1839 to 1876 according to a document I found (Bellasis book). Paul In Michigan, USA

Saturday 19 Jun 1819 (p. 1, col. 4-5 and p. 2, col. 5-6) T. FISHER, HAIR CUTTER & ORNAMENTAL HAIR MANUFACTURER, RETURNS his grateful Thanks to the LADIES and GENTLEMEN of CARLISLE and its Environs, for the liberal Encouragement he has received since his Commencement in Business, and begs leave to inform them that he has Removed a few Doors lower down, where he has fitted up appropriate Apartments for HAIR CUTTING. A Variety of Foreign and British PERFUMERY, of the very first quality. Castle-Street, Carlisle, June 10, 1819. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BATES's WHITE GLOBE TURNIP SEED. ABEL EARL, CHEMIST AND DRUGGIST, CARLISLE, RESPECTFULLY informs his Friends and the Public, that he has received a choice Supply of BATES's WHITE GLOBE TURNIP SEED, which he can confidently warrant to be good. A. E. sells all sorts of OILS and COLOURS of the best quality.--Scotch Street, June 16, 1819. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To the EDITOR of the CARLISLE PATRIOT. SIR, IN the last number of the Carlisle Patriot, Mr. PARKINS, after describing an accident that happened to his landau from the restiveness of his horses, is pleased, with his usual consistency, to throw the whole blame of the occurrence upon me. But the fact is, that I had nothing to do, and never wish to have any thing to do, with either Mr. PARKINS or his horses. When he went to London from this place, he left his horses at SINNOCK's stables, where they have remained all the time; on his returning, he put up for a day or two at the King's Arms, and when he was about to set off, the horses were brought opposite to the King's Arms gateway by Mr. PARKINS himself, in order to have his luggage put in by the waiters; it was thus, obviously, none of my business to interfere. Indeed, from the reception he gave to two men who offered to assist him, I have no doubt he would have been the first person to insult and abuse me. I request you, Sir, to insert this short note, that strangers may not be imposed upon by such false and calumnious representations. This is the first time I was ever accused of inhumanity or a disobliging disposition, and the abuse (and who is it that he does not abuse?) of such a person as Mr. PARKINS, will neither break my heart nor my character. JOSEPH WHARTON, Ostler, King's Arm's Inn. Dumfries, June 7, 1819. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TO BE SOLD, by PUBLIC AUCTION, on Thursday the 15th Day of July, 1819, at the Queen's Head Inn, KESWICK,- A DESIRABLE ESTATE, situate at FIELDSIDE, within a Mile of the Town of Keswick; consisting of Farm-buildings, and several Closes of Arable, Meadow, and Pasture Ground, containing by Estimation 55 Acres or thereabouts, lying within a Ring-fence, together with three Stints or Cattle Gaits upon each of the adjoining stinted Pastures called Briery Hill and White Moss, and now in the Occupation of Mr. JOSEPH STALKER. The Estate has a fine View of the Lake of Derwentwater and Vale of Keswick, and is entitled to an unlimited Right upon the adjoining extensive Wastes, which are well adapted for breeding Sheep. It is held of the Manor of Castlerigg and Derwentwater, by payment of an annual Rent, and a small Fine certain. The Tenant will shew the Premises; and further Particulars may be known on application at the Office of Messrs. MOUNSEY and SISSON, Solicitors, in Carlisle, where a Plan of the Estate may be seen. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADAM ROUTLEDGE, WATCH AND CLOCK-MAKER, HEAD OF ENGLISH-STREET, CARLISLE, BEGS leave to inform the Public, that he has commenced the above Business in the Shop lately occupied by Mr. G****ON, Straw-Hat Manufacturer, where he purposes carrying on the various Branches of the CLOCK and WATCH-MAKING BUSINESS. From his long experience in the construction of Horizontal, Improved Lever, and Repeating Watches, he flatters himself that he shall be enabled to give satisfaction to those who may be pleased to employ him; and his Friends may be assured of having all orders faithfully executed, with diligence and punctuality. AN APPRENTICE WANTED. June 17, 1819. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JAMES HEWARD, TAILOR & HABIT-MAKER, &c. GREEN MARKET, CARLISLE, IMPRESSED with a sense of Gratitude for the numerous marks of favour he has received from his Friends and the Public in general, since his commencement of the above Business, avails himself of this opportunity of expressing his grateful acknowledgments; and, at the same time, begs leave to inform them, that he has just returned from London, where he has spent some time in making himself acquainted with the present Fashions, and having established a Correspondence with some of the first Houses, he can assure his Friends and the Public, that he will be regularly supplied with the prevailing Fashions for every Month. J. H. hopes, by Assiduity and Attention, to merit the Encouragement of his Friends and the Public, whose Favours it will at all times be his pleasure to acknowledge. N. B.-Regimentals, &c. &c. done in the neatest manner, and with the utmost punctuality. June 17, 1819. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MOORHOUSE HALL TO LET. TO BE LET, by PRIVATE CONTRACT, for such Term of Years as may be agreed upon, and Entered upon Immediately,-All that large elegant MANSION-HOUSE, called MOORHOUSE HALL, with the Pleasure Grounds, Out-offices, and Gardens thereunto adjoining, situate in the Parish of BURGH-BY-SANDS, in the County of Cumberland. The above is a most desirable Residence for a Genteel Family, situated in a most delightful Country, and only four miles distant from the City of Carlisle. The Tenant may be accommodated with Six Acres of excellent Land, and the Corn Tithe of several Acres of Land in the immediate neighbourhood if required. For further particulars apply to Mr. HEWIT, Solicitor, Fisher-street, Carlisle, or Mr. WILLIAM HODGSON, of Fauld, Burgh-by-Sands, either of whom will send a proper Person to shew the Premises and treat for the same. June 18, 1819. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CORN MILL. TO BE LET, for a Term of Years, and Entered upon Immediately,-All that well accustomed and excellent WATER CORN-MILL, with a Dwelling-House, Garden, and convenient Out-buildings, situate at ARMATHWAITE, in the Parish of HESKET, and County of Cumberland. The Mill has a never-failing supply of Water from the Bay, and has lately undergone a thorough repair at very considerable expense. For further particulars apply to Mr. JOHN FAWCETT, Solicitor, Scotch-street, Carlisle, by whom Proposals will be received till Wednesday the 23rd instant, on the Evening of which day the Tenant will be declared at the House of WILLIAM WATSON, the Duke's Head, Armathwaite. June 15, 1819.

Saturday 12 Jun 1819 (p. 2, col. 6 and p. 3, col. 2) The greater part of the 10th Hussars, under Col. QUENTIN, have passed through Carlisle this week, on their route to Edinburgh. On Monday, a woodcock was shot at Houghton, near this city, by Mr. BOWES, jun. At Aikton Hall, near Wigton, during a sale of furniture on Monday last, one of the floors of the second story gave way and upwards of a hundred persons were precipitated into the room below: the confusion was indescribable, and the danger of suffocation imminent, as the room was filled by an almost impervious cloud of dust: strange to relate, no one received any other injury than a slight affection of the ancles. Two men who were smoking in the room beneath, experienced a very narrow escape: had it not been for a strong settle on which one of the beams fell, they must have been crushed to death. When they were taken out, one of them had lost his hat, but he still continued to smoke his pipe! Fortunately the accident happened late in the evening: if it had occurred sooner, perhaps many would have been killed, as a great number of people were underneath. There is now residing High Lows, Holm Cultram, a person who is 87 years old: he cut the grass for hay of his own and neighbour's meadows for 70 successive years, and he has now been blind 5 years. A few days ago, the creditors of Mr. John CHARLTON, of Newcastle, baker, who attended the meeting of the commissioners under his bankruptcy, met with an agreeable surprise. Bank cheques were given for the payment of their debts in full; and there remained an overplus of about £6 for the bankrupt. A man who calls himself William BROWN was committed to Appleby gaol last week, charged with a burglary in the neighbourhood of Barnard Castle. This person certainly appears to have considered the crime of burglary, and the usual punishment attending its commission, of a very trifling nature, as he had actually adorned his person with his iniquitous spoils, the whole of the clothes he wore at the time of his apprehension being the identical articles (amongst others) which had been stolen. There is now living at Lamb Rigg, near Kendal, a person of the name of Nathan WHITEHEAD, aged one hundred and eight years, who possesses his hair, teeth, eye sight, and memory. The factory of Messrs. PARK and OXENDALE, in Preston, was discovered to be on fire, on Sunday week, about ten o'clock in the morning, but, by the prompt exertions of the firemen, the flames were extinguished before any material damage had been sustained. >From the nature of the fire, and the circumstances under which it took place, there is too much reason to fear that it was the work of some wicked incendiary. Purneah Cattle.—On Wednesday week, a bull, cow, and calf, of the breed of Purneah, a district of Bengal, were brought to Dumfries from Calcutta. They are very small, not larger than a Leicestershire sheep, but extremely handsome, and very gentle. The calf is about ten weeks old, and was produced at sea. While in the King's Arms stables, they excited considerable interest amongst the curious and those concerned in agriculture, and were much admired for the symmetry of their shape.—The grass, upon which they were fed during their voyage, resembled florin, but appeared of finer texture, and was perfectly fresh and sweet flavoured. They were also supplied with gram, a sort of grain not unlike our peas. The animals, notwithstanding the length of the voyage, were in high condition.—They were sent over by Robert Cutler FERGUSON, Esq. and have since been taken to Craigdarrock, the seat of his brother.

I am researching the Faint/Feint/Faynt/ffent family who lived predominantly in Westmorland. Can any list member provide information on the following spouses of my Faints, (names, dates, etc)? Jo Faint b abt 1550 in Ormside Spouse: Ann (unk) b abt 1550 and married abt 1574 Jhon Faint b abt 1575 Spouse: Ann or Agnes or Agnas Ormside (b abt 1584) Laenard Faynt b abt 1600 Spouse: Esabell Blencarn b 1605 or 1609 in Ormside and married abt 1624 If anyone else is researching Faint families, I would be very happy to share what I have. Thank you in advance for your assistance, Art in New Hampshire, USA

Saturday 12 Jun 1819 (p. 3, col. 4-5) BIRTH. At Acorn Bank, Westmorland, the lady of Charles Poyntz BYNE, Esq. of a son. MARRIAGES. At Penrith, on Wednesday last, by the Rev. Thos. BEWSHER, John CONNELL, Esq. of Carlisle, to Elizabeth, only daughter of Matthew HARRISON, Esq. of Penrith. At Stanwix church, by the Rev. Mr. HUDSON, on Wednesday last, James GANDY, Esq., of Kendal, to Mrs. BOUSFIELD, of the former place. At St. Cuthbert's, in this City, on Thursday se'nnight, Mr. William MAXWELL, cotton-spinner, to Miss Elizabeth ARMSTRONG, of Botchergate, dress-maker. Wednesday week, at St. Mary's, Mr. HARRISON, serjeant major of the 18th Hussars, to Miss ARMSTRONG, daughter of Mr. John ARMSTRONG, innkeeper, Carlisle. At Wigton, by the Rev. Mr. DODD, on Thursday last, Mr. S. RIGG, of Wigton, to Miss ROOK, of Akehead. At Gretna Green, on Wednesday last, Mr. Alexander KIRK, of Longtown, to Miss Jane HOPE, of Langholm.-Same day, Capt. Robert BELL, of Maryport, to Miss Jane FELL, daughter of Mr. Joseph FELL, of Bank End, near Maryport.-On Thursday, Mr. Edward MARRS, grocer, Carlisle, to Miss Jane HEWITT, of Stanwix. At Bridekirk, on the 3rd inst. Mr. Henry DALTON, of Eaglesfield, to Miss PALMER, of Great Broughton. At the Abbey, on Monday last, Henry ARCKLEBY, aged 75, to Miss Mary LEE, a blooming damsel of 27. They were both paupers in Holm Cultram workhouse. Saturday last, at Whitehaven, Mr. John CROSTHWAITE, to Miss Eliz. TOWNSLEY. Monday, at Muncaster, by the Rev. Mr. TOPPING, Mr. James ASKEW, of Lancaster, solicitor, to Miss Ann HASSELL, of Ravenglass. Saturday last, at Arlecdon, Mr. Henry SANDWITH, of Scale Lands, to Elizabeth, daughter of Mr. Joseph HODGSON, of that place. Saturday last, at Workington, John WHITESIDE, Esq. to Mrs. Catherine HAYTON.-Same place, last week, Mr. Wm. ALLAN, to Miss Jane BRAITHWAITE. At Kendal, on Monday week, Mr. John ROBINSON, to Miss ALLAN.-Same day and place, Mr. DURHAM, shoemaker, to Miss Ruth SHAW.-Same day, Mr. MUSGROVE, white-smith, to Miss CHAMBERLAIN.-On Tuesday week, Mr. Wm. TYSON, of Windermere, to Miss Ellen HUTCHINSON. At Appleby, on Tuesday se'nnight, James SAYER, to Anna ABRAM [Hannah HAYBURN according to FamilySearch]. At Dumfries, on Monday, by the Rev. Mr. BABINGTON, John SYMONS, Esq. M. D., to Harriet, youngest daughter of the late Hugh MAXWELL, Esq. At St. Paul's Church, Covent Garden, London, on the 3rd instant, Mr. James KERR, merchant, Dumfries, to Miss Sarah Ann KERR of London. At Dumfries last Monday, Mr. Robert THOMSON, writer, Dumfries, to Miss Grace LAWSON, formerly of Carlisle.-Same day, and place, Mr. John MURRAY, shoemaker, to Miss Isabella HOUSTON, parish of Kells, Galloway. Last week, at Dumfries, Mr. Thos. M'NOAH, stocking manufacturer, to Miss May M'CAA.-Mr. John NIBLOE, cabinet maker, to Miss Grace M'TALDERACH, of Glenluce, Galloway.-At Maxwelltown, on Monday, Mr. James COLTART, baker, Dumfries, to Miss Isabella CAMERON, Maxwelltown. At Roothings, in Essex, a farmer, aged 85, and a young woman, the daughter of a near neighbour, in her 19th year. The bride was attended by her grandmother, mother, father, (to whom her husband had answered 40 years ago at the font as sponsor,) her mother and two of her sisters. The happy bridegroom was accompanied to the altar by his children and grand children, and one great grand child. DEATHS. On Wednesday last, in Scotch-street, in the prime of life, Mr. Wm. CREIGHTON, butcher. Friday week, in this City, Miss Margaret PATTINSON, daughter of Mr. Wm. PATTINSON, Abbey-gates. At Longlands Head, parish of Kirkbride, on the 30th ult. Mrs. Margaret SANDERSON, aged 81. At Westward Parks, on Monday last, Mrs. WATSON, wife of Mr. WATSON, after a long and tedious illness. At Far-rigg Moor, near Wigton, on Sunday last, Mr. Robert MURRAY, aged 84. He was a constant attendant on Wigton market, and was in perfect health the Tuesday before: what is remarkable, he had not slept out of his own bed for twenty-two years, and never experienced an hour's sickness till the time of his death. At Penrith, on Wednesday last, Mr. Isaac MILBURNE, aged 22.-On Thursday, Mr. Geo. RICHARDSON, of the Small Dog Inn. Monday last, in George-street, Whitehaven, Mrs. PARKER, widow, aged 81. At Keswick, Mrs. HUTTON, aged 69, wife of Mr. HUTTON, guide to the lakes mountains, &c.-At same place, Miss Dinah HALL, daughter of the late Mr. John HALL, aged 17. At Heversham, near Kendal, on Monday last, Mr. William BLACK, to Miss RATCLIFF. At Kendal, on the 4th inst. Mr. Samuel TROTTER, aged 78.-Same place, on Tuesday last, Mr. Nicholas WILSON, watchmaker, aged 60, much respected. At Kendal, on the 27th May, Mr. James JACKSON, painter, aged 27, after a very long and painful illness. On Sunday week, at Lawrence House, near Kendal, much respected, Mrs. WOOFE, aged 70. On Tuesday morning, at Dumfries, Mr. Jas. GRANT, writer, in his 22nd year.-At Edinburgh, a few days ago, Mr. Wm. LAWSON, late wine merchant in Dumfries.