Hi Helen, There are several churches in Kendal. I guess you would be wanting the records for the parish church which is Holy Trinity, the records commencing in 1558. These appear to have been published for the CWAAS, by G E Moser in 1876. The originals are held at the Kendal Record Office. Holy Trinity has its own website: http://www.welcome.to/kendal_parish_church Nancy McLaughlin. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Helen Campbell Blair <hblair@cogeco.ca>wrote: > Can anyone tell me if there is a source for pre 1837 Kendal marriage > records. > I notice that the LDS does not seem to have any marriages and the > FindMyPast site provides only 1837, or later, records. > Thanks kindly, > Helen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Nancy McLaughlin Burwood, Christchurch, NZ

Kendal has three parish churches, St Thomas' St Georges's & Holy Trinity ----- Original Message ----- From: <eng-westmorland-request@rootsweb.com> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:04 AM Subject: ENG-WESTMORLAND Digest, Vol 3, Issue 163 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 (Jenny Williams) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:22:18 +1000 > From: "Jenny Williams" <jenny.wil@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 > To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00b801c8f773$a1f88e60$0100000a@pc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > They are available on film from the LDS though. Check out "Library > Catalogue" & Kendal as place name, > Jenny > AUS > Looking for ROBINSON, Thomas & Margaret THOMPSON who married 1791 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helen Campbell Blair" <hblair@cogeco.ca> > To: <ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 4:55 AM > Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 > > >> Can anyone tell me if there is a source for pre 1837 Kendal marriage >> records. >> I notice that the LDS does not seem to have any marriages and the >> FindMyPast site provides only 1837, or later, records. >> Thanks kindly, >> Helen >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-WESTMORLAND list administrator, send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-WESTMORLAND mailing list, send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-WESTMORLAND Digest, Vol 3, Issue 163 > *********************************************** >

Helen According to Genuki the Kendal Record Office holds the Bishops Transcripts from 1558-1919 for Marriages, could be worth asking them on kendal.record.office@cumbriacc.gov.uk John -----Original Message----- From: Helen Campbell Blair [mailto:hblair@cogeco.ca] Sent: 05 August 2008 20:34 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 Thank you, David. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Whitwell" <davidwhitwell@msn.com> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 > The county library in Kendal does have Quaker material, but you have to go > through them by hand, slip of paper by slip of paper. > > David Whitwell > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Helen Campbell Blair<mailto:hblair@cogeco.ca> > To: ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:55 PM > Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 > > > Can anyone tell me if there is a source for pre 1837 Kendal marriage > records. > I notice that the LDS does not seem to have any marriages and the > FindMyPast site provides only 1837, or later, records. > Thanks kindly, > Helen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb .com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much to David, John and Jeremy for your help. I am attempting to find two missing children of Joseph TANNER and Esther RAMIER. Joseph TANNER was born abt. 1781 in Kendal, joined the army in 1802 then returned to Kendal sometime after 1826 until sometime after 1831, likely closer to 1840. Most of their children were born outside of Westmorland. The two who were born in Kendal died at a very young age. The two children in which I have an interest are WilliamTANNER b. 1811, Jersey, CI and John TANNER b. 1813 Hythe Kent. William TANNERS abound in Kendal, but John isn't not as common a forename. The John in whom I am interested appears marrying Ann DAVIES Oct 1834. A John and Ann have what appears to be triplets Esther Sarah Mary All baptized 23 Feb 1835, all died 26 Feb 1835 A John and Ann also have Elizabeth abt. 1837 Mary abt. 1840. (both noted on the 1841 census) I have speculated that this might be the John I seek, simply based on approximate age, the fact he was not native to Kendal and because he baptized a daughter Esther (mother's forename), and the fact that he has disappeared from the baptismal records and 1861 census (I don't have access to the 1851), which would lead to the possibility that he emigrated to Canada with his parents. He is also a stonemason, as is Joseph Tanner, the possible father. Search for William is not as straightforward. There are two Williams both married to Marys both producing children in the 1830s and early 40s. Neither would qualify as they were both born in Kendal. There is likely a third William & Mary as two children cannot be matched to the first two. The two 'unmatched' children are Samuel (1834) and Esther Feb (1841) The arguments here are rather weak, but the childrens' names are of particular interest and they have completely disappeared by the 1841 census - suggesting the family may also have immigrated. I would really like to know if anyone has these people in their research. I may be just barking up the wrong tree and would be happy to eliminate them from my searches. Thanks so much bearing with me, Cheerio Helen

Thank you, Jeremy for pointing me in the right direction. I had relied on Hugh Wallis' website for the Kendal christening and marriage records. There are plenty of batches for christenings but none listed for marriages. I've seen 'the error of my ways' - - thanks kindly for that Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Bishop" <jeremyb@pcug.org.au> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 > Helen Campbell Blair wrote: >> Can anyone tell me if there is a source for pre 1837 Kendal marriage >> records. >> I notice that the LDS does not seem to have any marriages and the >> FindMyPast site provides only 1837, or later, records. >> Thanks kindly, >> Helen >> > > Helen, > > Not sure where you got your LDS information, but a quick search of the > LDS Family History Library catalog shows Parish Registers for Kendal C > of E parish going back to 1558 (some years missing), and Bishop's > Transcripts for the same back to 1721. > > The original records for Kendal are held by the Cumbria Archive Service; > you can find their online catalog at: > > http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/archives/Online_catalogues/default.asp > > Regards, > Jeremy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much for that, John. Cheerio Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Genealogy" <fh@johnsteel.co.uk> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 > Helen > According to Genuki the Kendal Record Office holds the Bishops Transcripts > from 1558-1919 for Marriages, could be worth asking them on > kendal.record.office@cumbriacc.gov.uk > John > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Helen Campbell Blair [mailto:hblair@cogeco.ca] > Sent: 05 August 2008 20:34 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 > > Thank you, David. > > Helen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Whitwell" <davidwhitwell@msn.com> > To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:00 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 > > >> The county library in Kendal does have Quaker material, but you have to >> go > >> through them by hand, slip of paper by slip of paper. >> >> David Whitwell >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Helen Campbell Blair<mailto:hblair@cogeco.ca> >> To: >> ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:55 PM >> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 >> >> >> Can anyone tell me if there is a source for pre 1837 Kendal marriage >> records. >> I notice that the LDS does not seem to have any marriages and the >> FindMyPast site provides only 1837, or later, records. >> Thanks kindly, >> Helen >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb > .com> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body > >> of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Helen Campbell Blair wrote: > Can anyone tell me if there is a source for pre 1837 Kendal marriage records. > I notice that the LDS does not seem to have any marriages and the FindMyPast site provides only 1837, or later, records. > Thanks kindly, > Helen > Helen, Not sure where you got your LDS information, but a quick search of the LDS Family History Library catalog shows Parish Registers for Kendal C of E parish going back to 1558 (some years missing), and Bishop's Transcripts for the same back to 1721. The original records for Kendal are held by the Cumbria Archive Service; you can find their online catalog at: http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/archives/Online_catalogues/default.asp Regards, Jeremy

Thank you, David. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Whitwell" <davidwhitwell@msn.com> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 > The county library in Kendal does have Quaker material, but you have to go > through them by hand, slip of paper by slip of paper. > > David Whitwell > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Helen Campbell Blair<mailto:hblair@cogeco.ca> > To: ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:55 PM > Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 > > > Can anyone tell me if there is a source for pre 1837 Kendal marriage > records. > I notice that the LDS does not seem to have any marriages and the > FindMyPast site provides only 1837, or later, records. > Thanks kindly, > Helen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me if there is a source for pre 1837 Kendal marriage records. I notice that the LDS does not seem to have any marriages and the FindMyPast site provides only 1837, or later, records. Thanks kindly, Helen

The county library in Kendal does have Quaker material, but you have to go through them by hand, slip of paper by slip of paper. David Whitwell ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen Campbell Blair<mailto:hblair@cogeco.ca> To: ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Kendal Marriage Registers pre 1837 Can anyone tell me if there is a source for pre 1837 Kendal marriage records. I notice that the LDS does not seem to have any marriages and the FindMyPast site provides only 1837, or later, records. Thanks kindly, Helen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My apologies to all those who have asked about Google Books and Proxify. I realise now that I should have been more explicit. Anyway.....hope you can understand this: Choose the words you wish to search on....say warcop parish Enter these words into the box on the Google Books Search page http://books.google.com/ If you scroll down you will see some results are "Full view" , some are just Snippets , and some are Limited View. Now copy the URL shown in the address box above, and paste it into the box on this site: http://proxify.com/ Then hit "Proxify". You should then see the same results as in the Google Search, but now, (in theory) more of these should be available Full View. You musn't expect it to bring up everythng in Full View, but in this case I notice the last item on the first results page (Publications of the Catholic Record Society), is now available Full View. In the case of my search for the Ravenstonedale Parish records, even after I had "proxified", nothing (of the four listings) showed up as Full View. One, however had a longer description in the results page, and I clicked on it, to find that if I clicked further on "Read this book" (which you don't see very often), it became a Full View. It was certainly an exception. Anyway, that's how I found it. But just try Proxifying all the Google Book Searches that you make, and with luck, you should manage full access to so much more. Best wishes - Nancy. -- Nancy McLaughlin Burwood, Christchurch, NZ

AAH! I too had never heard of Proxify.! Now I understand. And it works-most go to full view. Many thanks Stephen Stephen Savage If you are not the intended recipient for this e mail please reply to sender accordingly and delete this e mail.

I do not know anything about what you refer to! Ruth -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Emmersonsi@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:58 AM To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Ravenstonedale Parish Registers In a message dated 30/07/2008 05:50:50 GMT Standard Time, riversidenz@gmail.com writes: Hi everyone - Today I have managed to access on-line the printed transcripts of Ravenstonedale Parish. I did this through a Google Book Search, and put the resulting URL into the Proxify search. It still didn't show as being available Full View, but I did find that on clicking on "Read this Book".....to the left of the screen,...... the WHOLE book became available! These transcripts are wonderful, particularly for those like me with interests in adjacent parishes. ALSO, the transcripts included entries from the Society of Friends (the Ravenstonedale Meeting), and also Presbyterian Registers. The actual Parish registers themselves commence 1571. I've not really explored them properly yet. Nancy. PS Sing out if you don't know what I am talking about re Google Book Search and Proxify. -- Nancy McLaughlin Burwood, Christchurch, NZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hi Nancy My interests: Ancestors of Joseph BECK of Milnthorpe b.1841 married Sophia Herman 1863. I was particularly interested in the content of your e-mail of 30th July. I would love to be able to spend some time with the PR's to which you refer. I acknowledge that my computer skills are very limited so having done my best, I have to ask you to spell out the process step by step, if you would be so kind. Many thanks, Sheila ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1532 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 8:32 AM

Hi Nancy, please elaborate on the Proxify search option. Regards Nick -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy McLaughlin Sent: 30 July 2008 05:50 To: Eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Ravenstonedale Parish Registers Hi everyone - Today I have managed to access on-line the printed transcripts of Ravenstonedale Parish. I did this through a Google Book Search, and put the resulting URL into the Proxify search. It still didn't show as being available Full View, but I did find that on clicking on "Read this Book".....to the left of the screen,...... the WHOLE book became available! These transcripts are wonderful, particularly for those like me with interests in adjacent parishes. ALSO, the transcripts included entries from the Society of Friends (the Ravenstonedale Meeting), and also Presbyterian Registers. The actual Parish registers themselves commence 1571. I've not really explored them properly yet. Nancy. PS Sing out if you don't know what I am talking about re Google Book Search and Proxify. -- Nancy McLaughlin Burwood, Christchurch, NZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found the Ravenstonedale Parish records but I think I need help to access the book please. Judy

I would be interested in having a "step by step" process for this too. Barb, Ontario, Canada. >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- PS Sing out if you don't know what I am talking about re Google Book Search and Proxify. Nancy McLaughlin Burwood, Christchurch, NZ<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

In a message dated 30/07/2008 05:50:50 GMT Standard Time, riversidenz@gmail.com writes: Hi everyone - Today I have managed to access on-line the printed transcripts of Ravenstonedale Parish. I did this through a Google Book Search, and put the resulting URL into the Proxify search. It still didn't show as being available Full View, but I did find that on clicking on "Read this Book".....to the left of the screen,...... the WHOLE book became available! These transcripts are wonderful, particularly for those like me with interests in adjacent parishes. ALSO, the transcripts included entries from the Society of Friends (the Ravenstonedale Meeting), and also Presbyterian Registers. The actual Parish registers themselves commence 1571. I've not really explored them properly yet. Nancy. PS Sing out if you don't know what I am talking about re Google Book Search and Proxify. -- Nancy McLaughlin Burwood, Christchurch, NZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hi Nancy My interests: Ancestors of Joseph BECK of Milnthorpe b.1841 married Sophia Herman 1863. I was particularly interested in the content of your e-mail of 30th July. I would love to be able to spend some time with the PR's to which you refer. I acknowledge that my computer skills are very limited so having done my best, I have to ask you to spell out the process step by step, if you would be so kind. Many thanks, Sheila

Hi everyone - Today I have managed to access on-line the printed transcripts of Ravenstonedale Parish. I did this through a Google Book Search, and put the resulting URL into the Proxify search. It still didn't show as being available Full View, but I did find that on clicking on "Read this Book".....to the left of the screen,...... the WHOLE book became available! These transcripts are wonderful, particularly for those like me with interests in adjacent parishes. ALSO, the transcripts included entries from the Society of Friends (the Ravenstonedale Meeting), and also Presbyterian Registers. The actual Parish registers themselves commence 1571. I've not really explored them properly yet. Nancy. PS Sing out if you don't know what I am talking about re Google Book Search and Proxify. -- Nancy McLaughlin Burwood, Christchurch, NZ

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