Hi List, 'Lagged Cow' & 'Cowdayes' Can any one help me with these farming terms that were on an inventory? They were along with Guy & Stotte. Guy being a heifer or cow under 3 years not having had a calf and stotte being a bullock. I wonder if they are northern terms or even Scottish being found on an inventory from the north. Judy

Post Office Directory of Westmoreland Printed & Published by Kelly and Co., 1858 Entry for Bampton [starts part way down page 9 and finishes part way down page 10] Page 9 BAMPTON is a large mountainous parish and township. The village, pleasantly situated in a valley, is surrounded by lofty and rugged mountains, near the confluence of the river Lowther with Hawes Water Beck, a stream that flows from the beautiful lake of that name, and on the western side of these rivers. The neighbouring village of BAMPTON GRANGE is in the same valley but on the eastern side of these streams. They are distant 4 1/2 miles north-west from Shap railway station, 9 1/2 south from Penrith, 8 south-east from Pooley Bridge, about 2 north-east from Hawes Water lake, and 20 north from Kendal, in the West Ward division and union of the barony of Westmoreland, deanery of Westmoreland, archdeaconry and diocese of Carlisle. The church (St. Patrick) stands in Bampton Grange, and is a neat stone edifice, with nave and chancel, erected in 1726 on the site of an old one; it has a square tower, containing 5 bells. In the interior are six marble monuments - one of them in memory of Edmund and Jane, parents of Edmund Gibson, formerly Bishop of London, who was born at High Knipe, in this parish. The living is a vicarage, value £96 per annum, with residence and 4 acres of glebe land, in the patronage of the Lord Chancellor, and held by the Rev. William Hodgson. Adjoining the churchyard is a Grammar school, endowed with £75 per annum, founded in 1627 by Thomas Sutton, D.D. There is a Sunday school held at the school-room. A fair is held on the 25th September, and on the second Monday after Michaelmas, for sheep and cattle. Hawes Water lake is situated within Thornthwaite manor, in the vale of Mardale, which is partly in this and partly in the adjoining parish of Shap. A company was formed about 1856, who have commenced working a mine for copper-ore amoung the mountains in this parish. In the census of 1851, the population was 533, and the acreage is about 11,720, of which about 8,000 is uncultivated mountainous moorland. The soil in the valleys is rich loam, very fertile, and the subsoil is limestone and gravel; the principal crops are hay and corn. The lord of the manor is the Earl of Lonsdale, who with Thomas Atkinson and Thomas Noble are chief landowners. There are charities of £5 13s. yearly distributed among the poor; and three public libraries, containing about 700 volumes, established in 1710, 1750 and 1757, for the use of the inhabitants. BUTTERWICK is a small village down the valley, 1 mile north-north-west. The following are hamlets in this parish:- BOMBY, distant one quarter of a mile south. HIGH and LOW KNIPE, 1 mile north. MEASAND is a hamlet, 3 miles south-west on the banks of Hawes Water, near Fordingdale Beck, a stream abounding in picturesque waterfalls. Here is a Free school, endowed with £48 per annum, for boys and girls. ROUGH HILL is a hamlet, 1 1/2 miles west-north-west, which also has an Endowed school for boys and girls, with an income of about £10 per annum. Riggendale is a deep glen, partly in this and partly in Shap parish, bordered by High-street mountain and Kidstey pike. PRIVATE RESIDENTS. Bland Mr. Stephen Brunskill, Measand Beck hall Hodgson Rev William [vicar], Vicarage, Bampton Grange Holme Misses, Bampton Grange Holme Rev. Thomas, M.A. Mardale Lowis Mrs. Elizabeth, Butterwick Mounsey Mrs Elizabeth, Walmgate head Mounsey Mr. Thomas, Rough hill Noble Mr. Richard, Woodfoot Noble Mr. Thomas, Beckfoot Powley Miss Jane, Denny hill Rowlandson Mr. William, Bomby Wharton Mrs. Sarah & Miss Ann, Walmgate COMMERCIAL Abbott Thos. farmer, Thornthwaite hall *Atkinson Thomas, farmer, Hullock how *Bradley John, farmer, Low Knipe Bland Eliza (Mrs.), farmer, Measand Beck hall Brunskill John, boot & shoe maker, Bampton Grange Burn George, farmer, High Knipe *Burn Thomas, farmer, Butterwick Burrows Robert, boot & shoe maker & parish clerk, Bampton Grange *Cookson Isaac, farmer, Butterwick Cooper George, stonemason, Bombey Page 10 *Cowburn John, farmer, Grange house, Bampton Grange Denison Mary (Mrs.), mistress of the Free school, Rough hill Docker Billah (Miss), ladies' day & boarding school, Butterwick Dover Matthew, butcher & frmr. Bomby Dufton, Isaac, farmer, Bampton Grange *Ebdell William, farmer, Dry barrows Farrer William, farmer, Knipe Hall Fishwick Thomas, farmer, Mardale Foulston Nanny (Mrs.), farmer, Vaw Steel *Greenhow William, tailor, Bomby Hogarth Elizabeth (Mrs.), shopkeeper, & post office Holmes Agnes (Miss), shopkeeper, Bampton Grange *Jaques George, farmer, Bomby Kirkbride Hobson, miller, Widewath Kirkbride John, farmer, Bampton hall *Kirkbride Thomas, farmer, Butterwick Kitching Robert, farmer, Dry barrows Kitching Thomas, farmer, Measand Martin James, farmer, Butterwick *Moffatt John, miller, Bampton mill *Mounsey John, farmer, Dale foot Mounsey Ann (Mrs.), farmer, Rough hill *Mounsey Noble, farmer, Rough hill Mounsey Richard, farmer, Butterwick *Newton Henry, farmer, Low Knipe Newton William, farmer, Low Knipe *Nicholson Francis, blksmith. & beer rtlr Nicholson Mary (Mrs.), shopkeeper, Bampton Grange Noble John, farmer, Woodfoot Noble Thomas, farmer, East Ward Noble William, farmer, Little Water *Noble William, farmer, High how Park Thomas, carrier, Bampton Grange Richardson Nathan, farmer, Bampton Grange Rigg Jonathan, master of Free school, Measand Robinson Edmund, farmer, Low Knipe Rowlandson James, farmer, Moorahill *Rowlandson Jnthn. farmer, Lit. Water Rudham Thomas, blacksmith, Bampton Grange Sarjant Henry, joiner, Denny hill Sarjant Joseph, farmer, Carhullan Shields Abiah, baker, Butterwick Simpson Joseph, farmer, Worm how *Steadman Thomas, farmer, Walmgate *Stephenson William, farmer, Low Knipe Stoddart Elizabeth (Mrs.), Cross Keys, Bombey, Bampton bridge *Thexton Richard, farmer, Rough hill Thompson Edmd, farmer, Hullock how *Thompson Matthew, farmer, Gate foot Tyson Joseph, farmer, Knipe Scar side Tyson Robert, farmer *Ubank Joseph, joiner Veach Thomas, farmer, Toddle cottage *Vipond Elizabeth (Mrs.), farmer, Skews *Walker William, Crown & Mitre, Bampton Grange Watson Isaac, farmer, Mardale *Wharton Stephen, butcher, farmer & cattle salesman, Millcraggs Wilson William Frederick, surveyor & master of Grammar school, Bampton Grange *Winder John, farmer, Hunger hill *Woof John, farmer, Bampton *Winder John, farmer, Helton dale head *Wright Anthony, farmer, Field Gate house, Bampton Grange POST OFFICE.- Mrs. Elizabeth Hogarth, receiver. Letters are received through Penrith, arrive at 1/4 past 10 a.m.; & dispatched at 1/2 past 12 p.m. by foot-post to Askham, except Sunday. The nearest money office is at Penrith. Public Library, at Grammar school, Bampton Grange, Wm. Frederick Wilson, librarian St Patrick's Church, Rev. William Hodgson, vicar PUBLIC SCHOOLS:- Bampton Grange Grammar, Wm. Fredk. Wilson, master Measand Free, Jonathan Rigg, master Rough Hill Free, Mrs. Mary Denison, mistress CARRIER TO PENRITH.-Thomas Park, every tues. & sat [End of Bampton entry]

I asked Ted Relph the unofficial historian of Crosby Ravensworth about Dodds for you. Sarah in Texas The Dodds baptised at Crosby church between 1812 and 1851 are 1813 Henry son of Henry and Ann, of Haybanks, farmer 1815 Catherine d. of Thomas and Mary, of Crosby, farmer 1815 Catherine d of Henry and Ann, of Haybanks, farmer 1817 Thomas son of Henry and Ann, of Haybanks, farmer 1820 Henry son of Thomas and Mary, of Crosby, farmer 1823 Anthony son of Thomas and Mary, of Crosby, farmer AND 1836 Margaret d of James & Mary of Crosby, labourer 1839 James son of James & Mary of Crosby, farmer 1840 Ann d of Catherine of Gibson Hill, illegitimate 1842 Isabella d of James & Mary of Crosby, labourer 1843 Nanny d of James & Mary of Crosby, labourer 1844 Margaret d of John & Ann, of Crosby Butcher ( no evidence of death, but see 1848 ) 1847 Jane d of James & Mary of Crosby, labourer 1848 Margaret d of John & Ann, of Crosby Butcher 1850 James son of Nanny Dodd, of Crosby, illegitimate 1851 John son of James & Mary of Crosby, labourer No record at Crosby of any marriage of Nanny after 1850

Just a quick question regarding the Westmorland Post Office Directory of 1858. Where it lists commercial residents, some (but not all) farmers have an asterisk against their name. I can't find anything in the directory to confirm it but does this mean they were yeoman (i.e owned the land)? Have seen this explained in other directories but not sure if same in this one. regards Cath

My Dodds: Isabella Dodd (married James Lewis about 1803) was born 28 DEC 1780 to Thomas Dodd and Isabelle Harriman in Crosthwaite And Lyth, Westmorland, England. Bob ________________________________ From: SarahReveley <sarahreveley@grandecom.net> To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:43:26 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DODD I have lots of photos of Crosby Ravensworth, my favorite place in the whole world. They are in the Westmorland albums on http://www.picturetrail.com/sarahstravels . I have more photos not online, in case you would like to get an idea of the place. They have a brand new parish archive, all kinds of records stored, I will look for an email address for you! I have photos of several documents, maybe there is a Dodd on one ofe the pages, I'll look. Samuel Reveley was Assistant Curate at Crosby Ravensworth from 1781 to 1783, and Vicar from 1783 to 1785, resigned due to illness, returned 1789 until his death in 1809. His children and grandchildren were there later at "The Fernery". Sarah in Texas Hi Terry I also have Dodds from Crosby Ravensworth of a slightly earlier generation, Ann Dodd chr 1760 in Crosby daughter of William Dodd and Ann Bland. Let me know if you can make a connection, and I can give you more on the early Dodds. Liz >Hi all, > Looking for parents of NANNY DODD, also known as Margaret, born 1816 at Crosby Ravensworth, I have her on all census' from 1851 thru'1881. James DODD was her son, born 1850, but no father shown on any census although she states 'married' on all but the 1881 where she states 'widow', ( as Margaret).Her daughter Margaret DODD , born 1846, married Christopher Hutchinson and was associated with a building called ' OAKLANDS' in Great Strickland. Any information on these topics greatly appreciated, Terry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have lots of photos of Crosby Ravensworth, my favorite place in the whole world. They are in the Westmorland albums on http://www.picturetrail.com/sarahstravels . I have more photos not online, in case you would like to get an idea of the place. They have a brand new parish archive, all kinds of records stored, I will look for an email address for you! I have photos of several documents, maybe there is a Dodd on one ofe the pages, I'll look. Samuel Reveley was Assistant Curate at Crosby Ravensworth from 1781 to 1783, and Vicar from 1783 to 1785, resigned due to illness, returned 1789 until his death in 1809. His children and grandchildren were there later at "The Fernery". Sarah in Texas Hi Terry I also have Dodds from Crosby Ravensworth of a slightly earlier generation, Ann Dodd chr 1760 in Crosby daughter of William Dodd and Ann Bland. Let me know if you can make a connection, and I can give you more on the early Dodds. Liz >Hi all, > Looking for parents of NANNY DODD, also known as Margaret, born 1816 at Crosby Ravensworth, I have her on all census' from 1851 thru'1881. James DODD was her son, born 1850, but no father shown on any census although she states 'married' on all but the 1881 where she states 'widow', ( as Margaret).Her daughter Margaret DODD , born 1846, married Christopher Hutchinson and was associated with a building called ' OAKLANDS' in Great Strickland. Any information on these topics greatly appreciated, Terry.

Great website Dave, thanks!!! You have put a tremendous amount of effort into it. I have around 160 photos of Westmorland on my SarahsTravels site, thanks to Ted Relph, ace travel guide. The 3 Westmorland albums are up at the top. I have more photos. http://www.picturetrail.com/sarahstravels Not on a website yet, in addition to Bellasis Church Notes, I also have 3 books transcribed by volunteers on the list, that were posted to this list several years ago: Westmorland - Magna Britannica (1700s) Vale of Lyvennet - compiled ca 1860, published 1910 Tour of Westmorland - by Sir Clement Jones 1948 (approved by his grandson to transcribe) Magna Britannica and Tour of Westmorland have some very cool maps and illustrations. I have several maps I can send you, at a large scale. I'll put them all on Sarahstravels and you can decide if you want to use them. ;-) Thanks again for a great website!!! Sarah in Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: freeola To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:12 PM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Genuki Westmorland update Hi Listers Just to let you know that I have added new information and links to /all /the parish pages on the Genuki Westmorland site.http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/ Inevitably I will have introduced some formatting errors during the changes, which I will try to put right in the coming weeks. But if you see any errors or broken links please let me know. My next priority is to improve the maps. I deliberately kept them small when I first introduced them in order to reduce the time needed to download them. But now that most people have broadband I can make them bigger, and less of a strain on the eyes. I also have other ideas for enhancements, but increasing the coverage of the church photos will have a lower priority (as there are so many other places you can find pictures on the Web)... I have worked out that I have been maintaining this website for over 10 years, and the rate at which interesting new sites come out has never been as high. And the usefulness of the information available now was unimaginable when I started. But if you know of any crucial sites I have missed please don't hesitate to tell me. And also if you have content you are prepared to donate please let me know. (though please only information that is of interest to Westmorland, and not information for individual families, as again there are other sites for posting your trees etc). Best regards to all Dave Huddart Paris PS If you don't know what Genuki is, try it out! http://www.genuki.org.uk <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/> M

Hi Listers Just to let you know that I have added new information and links to /all /the parish pages on the Genuki Westmorland site.http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/ Inevitably I will have introduced some formatting errors during the changes, which I will try to put right in the coming weeks. But if you see any errors or broken links please let me know. My next priority is to improve the maps. I deliberately kept them small when I first introduced them in order to reduce the time needed to download them. But now that most people have broadband I can make them bigger, and less of a strain on the eyes. I also have other ideas for enhancements, but increasing the coverage of the church photos will have a lower priority (as there are so many other places you can find pictures on the Web)... I have worked out that I have been maintaining this website for over 10 years, and the rate at which interesting new sites come out has never been as high. And the usefulness of the information available now was unimaginable when I started. But if you know of any crucial sites I have missed please don't hesitate to tell me. And also if you have content you are prepared to donate please let me know. (though please only information that is of interest to Westmorland, and not information for individual families, as again there are other sites for posting your trees etc). Best regards to all Dave Huddart Paris PS If you don't know what Genuki is, try it out! http://www.genuki.org.uk <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/> M

PRESTON AMATEUR ATHLETIC SPORTS, THIS DAY, ON THE GROUND OF THE NORTH END CRICKET CLUB, near Deepdale Station. Over 200 Entries, including the best Amateurs in the North. C. H. HAYDEN, Preston; G. FOX, Ulverston; W. NUGENT, Rochdale; T. GALVIN, Leigh; and J. E. WARREN, Warrington, in the Sprint and Hurdle Races. W. SNOOK, Shrewsbury; E. WRIGHT, Widnes, J. T. HIGGINBOTTOM, Newchurch; and W. C. DAVIES, Liverpool, in the Mile and Two Miles Races. H. W. GASKELL, Liverpool; A. SMITH, Hulme; T. R. PEAK, Wigan; J. COCKERILL, Heywood; and G. S. WILD, Oldham, in the Bicycle Races. Cumberland and Westmorland Wrestling and HIgh Pole Leaping. The Splendid Band of the 11th L.R.V., under the conductorship of MR. GLADNEY, will be in attendance. Admission, 6d; Grand Stand, 1s; Centre of Grand Stand, 2s 6d. ________________________________________________________

St. Andrew's, on the 15th inst., WILLIAM GLADSTONE, third son of THOMAS BELL WYLIE, builder, of this city, to MARGARET, fourth daughter of the late WILLIAM GRAHAM, of Rosley Hill, Cumberland **from THE NEWCASTLE COURANT, Friday, May 18, 1883**

CUMBERLAND & WESTMORLAND County Lunatic Asylum, Garlands, near Carlisle - CONTRACT FOR BEEF . - Those willing to Supply the above Asylum with FRESH BEEF of the best quality (whole fore-quarters and whole hind-quarters, each priced separately, and whether home or American to be stated ( from 30th June to 30th September, 1881, are requested to send Tenders, addressed to the Committee of Visitors, at the Asylum, or on before Saturday, the 18th instant. The Beef to be delivered at the Asylum free of expense, and supplied once a week usually, but in bad-keeping weather, twice a week - about 45 stones per week being required. JONAS TODD, Clerk and Steward. Garlands, June 4, 1851.

THE REPRESENTATION OF WEST CUMBERLAND. The HON. PERCY WYNDHAM, the Conservative member for West Cumberland, having intimated his intention of resigning, a meeting of the Conservative party was held at Whitehaven yesterday, MAJOR GREEN THOMPSON of Bridekirk in the chair, when it was unanimously decided that MR. J. W. LOWTHER, barrister son of the HON W. LOWTHER, member for Westmorland, and MR. JONAS LINDOW BURNS LINDOW of Irton Hall, be the Conservative candidates at the next election for West Cumberland.

St. Andrew's, on the 15th inst., WILLIAM GLADSTONE, third son of THOMAS BELL WYLIE, builder, of this city, to MARGARET, fourth daughter of the late WILLIAM GRAHAM, of Rosley Hill, Cumberland

Hi Terry I also have Dodds from Crosby Ravensworth of a slightly earlier generation, Ann Dodd chr 1760 in Crosby daughter of William Dodd and Ann Bland. Let me know if you can make a connection, and I can give you more on the early Dodds. Liz >----Original Message---- >From: tmking@hurworth99.freeserve.co.uk >Date: 29/11/2008 12:19 >To: <ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com> >Subj: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DODD > >Hi all, > > Looking for parents of NANNY DODD, also known as Margaret, >born 1816 at Crosby Ravensworth, I have her on all census' from 1851 thru' >1881. > > James DODD was her son, born 1850, but no father shown on any census >although she states 'married' on all but the 1881 where she states 'widow', >( as Margaret). > > > > Her daughter Margaret DODD , born 1846, married Christopher >Hutchinson and was associated with a building called ' OAKLANDS' in Great >Strickland. > > > > Any information on these topics greatly appreciated, Terry. > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Games for all the family from Tiscali - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/play __________________________________________________________

Can sks help me please? I am trying to find the births of either / both of the following:- 1793 Marriage.............APR 29 THOMAS FASWET OR FAWCETT & ELIZABETH CLEMEY Orton, Westmorland, England I have a record of the marriage but can't find either birth Any help would be appreciated Thanks in advance

Hi all, Looking for parents of NANNY DODD, also known as Margaret, born 1816 at Crosby Ravensworth, I have her on all census' from 1851 thru' 1881. James DODD was her son, born 1850, but no father shown on any census although she states 'married' on all but the 1881 where she states 'widow', ( as Margaret). Her daughter Margaret DODD , born 1846, married Christopher Hutchinson and was associated with a building called ' OAKLANDS' in Great Strickland. Any information on these topics greatly appreciated, Terry.

Terry, I have Dodd's, mine start with William born about 1730. He married Sarah Brantwaite. There son Thomas married Isabella Harriman. THeir daughter Isabella married Jame Lewis in 1803. Bob ________________________________ From: Terry King <tmking@hurworth99.freeserve.co.uk> To: ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:19:50 AM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DODD Hi all, Looking for parents of NANNY DODD, also known as Margaret, born 1816 at Crosby Ravensworth, I have her on all census' from 1851 thru' 1881. James DODD was her son, born 1850, but no father shown on any census although she states 'married' on all but the 1881 where she states 'widow', ( as Margaret). Her daughter Margaret DODD , born 1846, married Christopher Hutchinson and was associated with a building called ' OAKLANDS' in Great Strickland. Any information on these topics greatly appreciated, Terry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, Looking for parents of NANNY DODD, also known as Margaret, born 1816 at Crosby Ravensworth, I have her on all census' from 1851 thru' 1881. James DODD was her son, born 1850, but no father shown on any census although she states 'married' on all but the 1881 where she states 'widow', ( as Margaret). Her daughter Margaret DODD , born 1846, married Christopher Hutchinson and was associated with a building called ' OAKLANDS' in Great Strickland. Any information on these topics greatly appreciated, Terry.

HEROISM OF A NORTH-COUNTRY YEOMAN. LIEUTENANT CLAUDE LOWTHER of the Westmorland and Cumberland contingent of the Imperial Yeomanry has been recommended for the Victoria Cross for his bravery at the battle of Faberspruit. LIEUTENANT LETHBRIDGE was wounded badly in the arm and lying helpless when LIEUTENANT LOWTHER, under a perfect hail of bullets, went to his assistance. He could not get him away, but secured the comparative shelter of some rocks, where the two officers remained until dark, and then LIEUTENANT LOWTHER succeeded in bringing his friend out of danger. The rescuer, though in imminent peril, escaped with no worse mishap than a bullet through his helmet.

MARRIAGE. St. Stephen's Church, on the 30th ult., by the REV. R. NICHOLSON, M.A., vicar, assisted by the REV. JOHN LEECH, B.A., vicar of Thurstonland, Huddersfield, and brother of the bridegroom, ISAAC BECK LEECH, of Liverpool, son of ISAAC LEECH of Beckermet, Cumberland, to DEBORAH J. VARTY, second daughter of JOSEPH VARTY of Newcastle-on-Tyne. DEATH. NEWCASTLE, 79, Westmorland, on the 29th ult., JOHN SANG. surgeon.